Clamped

orlyo

I was clamped in a private apartment parking by the NCPS. I live in the complex and they issued the notice with the incorrect registration on it for my visitors car? If the incorrect license reg is on it can it be enforced?

The clamp is also not on correctly, I can lift down the front of the clamp completely (to access the nuts to remove the wheel)

I'm afraid if I call them to tell them the wrong reg is on the notice they will go and issue a new notice immediately or should I just remove the wheel, and take of the clamp?(would this work?)

Henry Ford III

Is the car parked where it should be with a proper permit?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

orlyo wrote: »

I was clamped in a private apartment parking by the NCPS. I live in the complex and they issued the notice with the incorrect registration on it for my visitors car? If the incorrect license reg is on it can it be enforced?

The clamp is also not on correctly, I can lift down the front of the clamp completely (to access the nuts to remove the wheel)

I'm afraid if I call them to tell them the wrong reg is on the notice they will go and issue a new notice immediately or should I just remove the wheel, and take of the clamp?(would this work?)

The answer is in your question

orlyo

It was in the visitor parking. The parking expired at 1:30am on Sunday morning, came back from work at 2:10am and they had clamped the vehicle.

Cabaal

orlyo wrote: »

It was in the visitor parking. The parking expired at 1:30am on Sunday morning, came back from work at 2:10am and they had clamped the vehicle.

so it was then illegally parked as it wasn't parked inline with the requirement to have a valid permit at the time.

Lord Nikon

Cases have been thrown out, in court, because of technicalities regarding incorrect registration numbers. The fact that the reg is incorrect on the notice, then one would argue that is wasn't the visitors vehicle. If it's possible to remove the clamp with damaging it, then they don't really have a leg to stand on because because of the incorrect reg on notice. IMHO

V8 Interceptor

Cabaal wrote: »

so it was then illegally parked as it wasn't parked inline with the requirement to have a valid permit at the time.

:rolleyes:

kirving

Cabaal wrote: »

so it was then illegally parked as it wasn't parked inline with the requirement to have a valid permit at the time.

If it was your car, and you came back to it at 1.32am, I'm 100% certain that you'd stand by your point.

Cabaal

Kevin Irving wrote: »

If it was your car, and you came back to it at 1.32am, I'm 100% certain that you'd stand by your point.

Nobody came back at 1.32am, if they did I'd imagine they'd have been fine.

you may wish to re-read what OP posted

The parking expired at 1:30am on Sunday morning, came back from work at 2:10am and they had clamped the vehicle.

So it was expired by 40 minutes,
If you paid for street parking and you arrived 40 minute after the ticket expired would you stand by your point?

davo2001

Cabaal wrote: »

so it was then illegally parked as it wasn't parked inline with the requirement to have a valid permit at the time.

This is not what the OP asked, this is:

If the incorrect license reg is on it can it be enforced?

Can you answer that?

antodeco

Pfft. Private clampers don't care if the details on it are 1000000% incorrect. That's the game they're in. Hopefully some kind person known as "ClamperMan" somehow removes the clamp and disposes of all evidence it was on your car. Sure what evidence would there be if the details were wrong...

RustyNut

Hi OP. NCPS are charging you a fee to remove their clamp from your car. If you can remove it without damaging it, because maybe it wasn't put on right in the first place then there is no need to pay a fee. Just leave the clamp close to where you found IT.

orlyo

Cabaal wrote: »

Nobody came back at 1.32am, if they did I'd imagine they'd have been fine.

you may wish to re-read what OP posted



So it was expired by 40 minutes,
If you paid for street parking and you arrived 40 minute after the ticket expired would you stand by your point?

I know the time lapsed, thats not what I'm asking.

redcup342

Just take the f*cking thing off and tell them they can come collect their un-damaged clamp whenever they want.

However if they don't do it within a week you will start charging a storage fee of 20 euros per day.

endacl

If you can take the bastard thing off, just take it off. Fcuk them.

California Dreamer

Cabaal wrote: »

so it was then illegally parked as it wasn't parked inline with the requirement to have a valid permit at the time.

Private company, f**k them! Illegal or not. Remove it and leave it there!

Del2005

California Dreamer wrote: »

Private company, f**k them! Illegal or not. Remove it and leave it there!

Private property so the OP will be constantly clamped everytime they go home. Removing the clamp only works if you never intend parking there again.

jim salter

Del2005 wrote: »

Private property so the OP will be constantly clamped everytime they go home. Removing the clamp only works if you never intend parking there again.

Hope the clamping company has a never ending supply of clamps.

If it was me, I would cut it off (have done 4 times on private property without any repercussions)

California Dreamer

Del2005 wrote: »

Private property so the OP will be constantly clamped everytime they go home. Removing the clamp only works if you never intend parking there again.

Yeh 'cos the guy on €10 an hour in a soul destroying job is going to be paying that much attention!

Caliden

Take it off and move on with your life.

Hebegeebee

California Dreamer wrote: »

Yeh 'cos the guy on €10 an hour in a soul destroying job is going to be paying that much attention!

And especially so when the wrong details of the car have also been recorded!

mgbgt1978

RustyNut wrote: »

Hi OP. NCPS are charging you a fee to remove their clamp from your car. If you can remove it without damaging it, because maybe it wasn't put on right in the first place then there is no need to pay a fee. Just leave the clamp close to where you found IT.

+1. It's a removal fee, not a Fine.

Take it off and stick it in your boot. Stick a note in your window:

"Clamps attached to this vehicle will require an €85 retrieval fee before being returned"

When they come looking for it, demand payment from them.

Del2005

California Dreamer wrote: »

Yeh 'cos the guy on €10 an hour in a soul destroying job is going to be paying that much attention!

They won't need to pay attention. The OP broke the parking rules in their development and got clamped. If they remove the clamp they will loose access to the development parking and so if they park there they won't be registered/have a valid pass so will be clamped again. The soul destroying job could become interesting if you know that you will be able to clamp every time you go to the development.

antodeco

Del2005 wrote: »

They won't need to pay attention. The OP broke the parking rules in their development and got clamped. If they remove the clamp they will loose access to the development parking and so if they park there they won't be registered/have a valid pass so will be clamped again. The soul destroying job could become interesting if you know that you will be able to clamp every time you go to the development.

But surely if they check his reg next time there will be no record of it ever being clamped..?

dr.fuzzenstein

jim salter wrote: »

Hope the clamping company has a never ending supply of clamps.

If it was me, I would cut it off (have done 4 times on private property without any repercussions)

4 times? You must be doing something wrong, I'm driving since 1989 and have been clamped a total of zero times.

One has to ask the question, why is clamping everywhere in Ireland? It's not to make money, it's because of arsehole and pisstake parking.

mgbgt1978

You mean the Private Clampers are not in it for the Money !!!!!!

Peanut2011

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

4 times? You must be doing something wrong, I'm driving since 1989 and have been clamped a total of zero times.

One has to ask the question, why is clamping everywhere in Ireland? It's not to make money, it's because of arsehole and pisstake parking.

In one housing estate it was brought purely for money reasons... but people kept removing the clamps and clamping stopped.

They will only do it as long as they keep making money. Once they are not, they move on.

I am all for clamping as means of regulating a parking issues and I've been on the receiving end by being late to come back to the car so I know how that feels like and it's ****, but having to pay for parking at your own house and having some 3rd party company dictating to me how often, for how long and having to pay to have my visitors over... no way.

jim salter

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

4 times? You must be doing something wrong, I'm driving since 1989 and have been clamped a total of zero times.

You have absolutely no clue of the situations I was clamped in so try not be a complete díckhead. Maybe, just maybe I was proving a point and maybe, just maybe I did prove my point

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

One has to ask the question, why is clamping everywhere in Ireland? It's not to make money, it's because of arsehole and pisstake parking.

Hahahahahaha, it's not to make money....yeah right...

fullstop

antodeco wrote: »

Pfft. Private clampers don't care if the details on it are 1000000% incorrect. That's the game they're in. Hopefully some kind person known as "ClamperMan" somehow removes the clamp and disposes of all evidence it was on your car. Sure what evidence would there be if the details were wrong...

The OP lives in the estate and they take a picture of the car when clamping it. That would be idiotic in the extreme.

meathstevie

Regardless of what sort of fancy language a "management company" puts in their literature, generally interfering with a vehicle that you don't own is a criminal offence.

The exception being situations in which there are legal provisions to do so in place like for example the Road Traffic Act, local authority bye laws and so on.

dr.fuzzenstein

jim salter wrote: »

You have absolutely no clue of the situations I was clamped in so try not be a complete díckhead. Maybe, just maybe I was proving a point and maybe, just maybe I did prove my point


Hahahahahaha, it's not to make money....yeah right...

I worked on the road from 2000 till 2009. I visited offices, factories, schools and airports in towns, cities and industrial estates anywhere between Galway and Cork. And even did a few stints in Dublin.
A lot of those had clamping policies in effect.
After careful consideration I concluded that if you simply stick to the rules, you won't get clamped! (#mindblown!)
It's not difficult, it's not voodoo, it's just not parking like a dick.

Now that's sorted, let's get to the money.
Of course the clampers want to make money. Don't we all?
But I am sure that management companies of housing estates, schools, factories, industrial estates and the likes do NOT want to have to hire clampers.
But just looking at the arsehole parking going on in Ireland WITH clamping, I shudder to think what it would be like without.
For some excellent examples I can recommend an very entertaining thread right here on Motors.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057761511/1

Wildcard7

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I worked on the road from 2000 till 2009. I visited offices, factories, schools and airports in towns, cities and industrial estates anywhere between Galway and Cork. And even did a few stints in Dublin.
A lot of those had clamping policies in effect.
After careful consideration I concluded that if you simply stick to the rules, you won't get clamped! (#mindblown!)
It's not difficult, it's not voodoo, it's just not parking like a dick.

Now that's sorted, let's get to the money.
Of course the clampers want to make money. Don't we all?
But I am sure that management companies of housing estates, schools, factories, industrial estates and the likes do NOT want to have to hire clampers.
But just looking at the arsehole parking going on in Ireland WITH clamping, I shudder to think what it would be like without.
For some excellent examples I can recommend an very entertaining thread right here on Motors.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057761511/1

I often wonder about that.
- You move into an appartment complex
- The number of parking spots is limited
- You want to ensure that people park where and how they're supposed to, so you actually get to use your own spot
- The management company hires clampers for that purpose
- You eventually get clamped yourself because you forgot to renew/display your permit or parked where you shouldn't have
- OMG FÜCK CLAMPERS WHAT A RIP OFF HOW DARE THEY


Am I the only one who can't see the logic in that?

B-D-P--

Peanut2011

meathstevie wrote: »

Regardless of what sort of fancy language a "management company" puts in their literature, generally interfering with a vehicle that you don't own is a criminal offence.

If love to see that argument work on a private land... please let us all know how you get on.

This is the biggest misconception around.

Del2005

meathstevie wrote: »

Regardless of what sort of fancy language a "management company" puts in their literature, generally interfering with a vehicle that you don't own is a criminal offence.

The exception being situations in which there are legal provisions to do so in place like for example the Road Traffic Act, local authority bye laws and so on.

Since neither side has even gone to court this is BS as there's never been a judgement.

ohnonotgmail

meathstevie wrote: »

Regardless of what sort of fancy language a "management company" puts in their literature, generally interfering with a vehicle that you don't own is a criminal offence.

The exception being situations in which there are legal provisions to do so in place like for example the Road Traffic Act, local authority bye laws and so on.

or if you have contractually agreed to it via your leasehold agreement.

redcup342

Be thankful Ireland doesn't have clamps of shame


https://www.denhaag.nl/en/parking/paid-parking-and-fines/wheel-clamp.htm

Yellow wheel clamp
You can get a yellow wheel clamp on your car if:

You have not paid your parking fine within 14 days and the municipality is unable to trace the owner of the car.
Your car has a foreign number plate and you get a parking fine. This applies to cars registered in countries which do not have arrangements with the Netherlands on exchanging personal details.

Red wheel clamp
You can get a red wheel clamp on your car if the bailiff from the Municipal Tax Department seizes your vehicle because you are behind in paying your municipal taxes.

Effectively Yellow means you are from Ireland/The UK or some eastern european country.

Red means you are dirty tax dodger.


Private clamping has effectively been banned, so the car parks just put in gates with various methods of authentication to operate them.