Seatwave Closing Down

Exclamation Marc · 31-08-2018 11:31am

phunkadelic wrote: »

Wrong, to see platinum in the past on the app, you had to click into the platinum listing. It was a separate listing.
Now though, they are on the standard listing for the event before it goes on general sale.

It's not 'wrong'. Read your post. You said that they had platinum listed on the app before regular tickets went on sale and I said that's been the case before. Now you're pointing at something else which I didn't comment on.

In that regards, the fact that they're integrating platinum into the regular listing is a bit annoying and definitely antagonising. But that seems more like housekeeping. Those platinum tickets have always been there, just usually in a separate listing as you said.

It's annoying and frustrating alright, I don't disagree with you at all. But I'm not seeing a significantly higher number of tickets on platinum now then I did for gigs a year or two ago.

rubadub · 31-08-2018 11:43am

okidoki987 wrote: »

If Ticketmaster control the resale market, that should be fine as long as it's face value or lower.

I found the draft of the proposed law before. I don't think it said anything about fees etc. Some reselling places will have a 10% cap on what can be charged. Seatwave were far more. I posted earlier in the thread that for a person wanting to sell a billy joel ticket and to get their face value back then the buyer pays €73.55 to seatwave in fees for a single ticket.

They mask this at the moment, since the seller is paying fees.

phunkadelic · 31-08-2018 11:47am

It's not housekeeping, it's a different method of gouging. They'll snare more clueless buyers this way.
When you say you're not seeing any higher number of tickets on platinum, we have no idea how many they are feeding into Platinum. They are managing this behind the scenes.
But it is a lot more prominent than it was. They are putting the platinum tickets in general listing, both on the website and the app. Thus snaring more ill-informed buyers more easily. (ie. the same people that used to buy from seatwave)

okidoki987 · 01-09-2018 5:45pm

Thus snaring more ill-informed buyers more easily.

and that's where T/M will recover their "lost income" fairly quickly especially for gigs where kids are involved and their ticket buying parents don't know the ins and outs of getting normal price tickets.

drunkmonkey · 01-09-2018 7:13pm

The joke that's been EP tickets and adverts just goes to prove why seatwave is needed, no messing trying to get a ticket and being gouged senseless, at least seatwave makes it easy to be gouged.
This law will stop nothing, it's supply and demand, only makes it harder for people to get tickets while still being gouged to death.

phunkadelic · 04-09-2018 7:44pm

Ed sheeran promoter caught rotten.

https://twitter.com/viagogopress/status/1036933625936334849?s=19

Zardoz · 04-09-2018 8:01pm

phunkadelic wrote: »

Ed sheeran promoter caught rotten.

https://twitter.com/viagogopress/status/1036933625936334849?s=19

Yes ,he is a complete hypocrite.

The timing of this comes a day before a UK parliamentary enquiry
http://www.completemusicupdate.com/article/ad-industry-regulator-drops-sanctions-against-viagogo-ahead-of-select-committee-hearing/

Toast · 05-09-2018 8:13am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The joke that's been EP tickets and adverts just goes to prove why seatwave is needed, no messing trying to get a ticket and being gouged senseless, at least seatwave makes it easy to be gouged.
This law will stop nothing, it's supply and demand, only makes it harder for people to get tickets while still being gouged to death.

Why was adverts allowing over face value sales?

Regards your suggestion that seatwave is needed for the convenience of being gouged I'd like door number three please...the convenience of digitally moving a ticket from one user to the other securely without gouging. Ticketmaster have the technology to provide that just not the will.

MisterAnarchy · 05-09-2018 11:22am

phunkadelic wrote: »

Wrong, to see platinum in the past on the app, you had to click into the platinum listing. It was a separate listing.
Now though, they are on the standard listing for the event before it goes on general sale.

Just noticed that Platinum tickets are already available for Ozzy Osbourne despite general sale not being until Friday.
This will be the norm from now on.

Exclamation Marc · 05-09-2018 11:26am

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Just noticed that Platinum tickets are already available for Ozzy Osbourne despite general sale not being until Friday.
This will be the norm from now on.

Has been the norm for a few years now. It's nothing new.

MisterAnarchy · 05-09-2018 11:40am

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Has been the norm for a few years now. It's nothing new.

Platinum tickets were always in a separate listing,now they are thrown in with the general listing.
They are even showing up in the 3 presale listing.

Exclamation Marc · 05-09-2018 12:12pm

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Platinum tickets were always in a separate listing,now they are thrown in with the general listing.
They are even showing up in the 3 presale listing.

Oh I know but the platinum tickets being on sale prior to general onsale dates is nothing new.

It's a sneaky to start including them with the general tickets and its something I thought they would have done years ago when they launched. It'll more catch out those more so unbothered by ticket prices rather than the average punter.

phunkadelic · 05-09-2018 6:47pm

The cants even have platinum standing listed for Ozzy, €245 apiece

Exclamation Marc · 05-09-2018 9:06pm

phunkadelic wrote: »

The cants even have platinum standing listed for Ozzy, €245 apiece

That is outrageous.

boyznoise · 05-09-2018 9:44pm

This type of crap is gonna be ramped up big time in the next few months

hots · 06-09-2018 9:15am

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

That is outrageous.

It's not that big a deal imo, people will either buy it and then it's the right price, or they won't and it'll have to be reduced next time?

boyznoise · 06-09-2018 10:00am

hots wrote: »

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

That is outrageous.

It's not that big a deal imo, people will either buy it and then it's the right price, or they won't and it'll have to be reduced next time?

So it's okay for TM to hold tickets back from the public and to sell them at an extortionate price, far greater than Seatwave prices?

Zardoz · 06-09-2018 6:29pm

hots wrote: »

It's not that big a deal imo, people will either buy it and then it's the right price, or they won't and it'll have to be reduced next time?

Yes ,thats true .
It will actually be easier to get tickets for events closer to the date with this new platinum pricing .
The unsold platinum tickets and other hold backs will go back into the mix about a month before the gig .

This new pricing mechanism Ticketmaster are using primarily in the US to screw as much money out of the fans isn't going to last.
Using dynamic pricing to hike tickets up at the start of the on sale and then reduce prices closer to the concert date,to sell off inventory.
Fans are going to twig that they can get better seats at lower prices closer to the concert as 98.5% of gigs in the US don't sell out.

Ciaran_B · 07-09-2018 8:52am

How come some concerts aren't up for sale on Seatwave? There's no Arctic Monkeys for example.

phunkadelic · 07-09-2018 9:18am

Ciaran_B wrote: »

How come some concerts aren't up for sale on Seatwave? There's no Arctic Monkeys for example.

ID restrictions on tickets

Zardoz · 19-09-2018 2:57pm

Ticketmaster caught by the proverbial balls recruiting touts to work for them across the water

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/a-public-relations-nightmare-ticketmaster-recruits-pros-for-secret-scalper-program-1.4828535

Wheety · 21-09-2018 10:53am

Just noticed that Seatwave now has a message saying from October you can sell tickets through Ticketmaster website for Facevalue or less.

Zardoz · 12-10-2018 1:03pm

As we expected Platinum and VIP tickets now being interspersed with normal tickets in the listings and Ticketmaster doing their best to promote these whilst holding back tickets.

https://twitter.com/TicketmasterUK/status/1050676446476218368