Unequal Pay

YFlyer

Lets have a forum on unequal pay between men and women. By knowing where pay is unequaled, it can be addressed.

davo2001

Lets not.

Fighting Tao

I was expecting this thread to have been started by a re-reg.

Birneybau

Are we due more Summer or not? Was both warm AND cold today.

Fighting Tao

-1

biko

Indeed, we cannot go on like this any more

Gender pay gap in modelling industry sees women earn 75% more than men

Balanadan

Careful now, you'll offend someone who's fed up with "gender wars"

YFlyer

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I was expecting this thread to have been started by a re-reg.

Its me. Not Biggins.

YFlyer

biko wrote: »

Indeed, we cannot go on like this any more

Gender pay gap in modelling industry sees women earn 75% more than men

Sorry can't open your link.

Fanny Wank

If you ever want an example of how so called gender pay gaps can be explained by factors other than gender the Uber example is worth looking up

Cantona's Collars

What if someone is gender fluid? Do they get paid differently depending on what they identify as. One week paid as a man,the next week paid as a woman......

Guy:Incognito

The gender pay gap in porn is obscene.

YFlyer

Fanny **** wrote: »

If you ever want an example of how so called gender pay gaps can be explained by factors other than gender the Uber example is worth looking up

hey Fanny what article should I read about that?

Fanny Wank

YFlyer wrote: »

hey Fanny what article should I read about that?

Here's one. There are dozens more a mere Google search away

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/theres-a-gender-wage-gap-for-uber-drivers-but-its-not-caused-by-sexism

YFlyer

Fanny **** wrote: »

Here's one. There are dozens more a mere Google search away

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/theres-a-gender-wage-gap-for-uber-drivers-but-its-not-caused-by-sexism

I should have included those that take the same breaks.

YFlyer

Fighting Tao wrote: »

-1

You have a negative attitude

Woke Hogan

Is everything on this forum all about identity politics? Jesus christ.

YFlyer

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Is everything on this forum all about identity politics? Jesus christ.

Where did you get that from?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Is everything on this forum all about identity politics? Jesus christ.

Interesting username.

An Ri rua

YFlyer wrote:

Lets have a forum on unequal pay between men and women. By knowing where pay is unequaled, it can be addressed.

addressed or atrousered?

Birneybau

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Is everything on this forum all about identity politics? Jesus christ.

Interesting username.

Can be shortened to Wogan

bear1

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The gender pay gap in porn is obscene.

On a serious note this is actually correct. Watched a Netflix documentary I think where they said Women are paid multiple times that of their partner (if a man) to do a scene.
Whereas for a gay the only way to try and compete is to perform in gay scenes.
Those that are refused are shown the back door.
Weeheyy

GreeBo

biko wrote: »

Indeed, we cannot go on like this any more

Gender pay gap in modelling industry sees women earn 75% more than men

And dont get me started on the porn industry!

An Ri rua

bear1 wrote:

On a serious note this is actually correct. Watched a Netflix documentary I think where they said Women are paid multiple times that of their partner (if a man) to do a scene. Whereas for a gay the only way to try and compete is to perform in gay scenes. Those that are refused are shown the back door. Weeheyy

Maybe they're paid by the orgasm.

Frank O. Pinion

bear1 wrote: »

Whereas for a gay the only way to try and compete is to perform in gay scenes.

I believe you.

PlaneSpeeking

An Ri rua wrote: »

bear1 wrote:

On a serious note this is actually correct. Watched a Netflix documentary I think where they said Women are paid multiple times that of their partner (if a man) to do a scene. Whereas for a gay the only way to try and compete is to perform in gay scenes. Those that are refused are shown the back door. Weeheyy

Maybe they're paid by the orgasm.

Are real ones worth double like away goals??

Will I Am Not

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The gender pay gap in porn is obscene.

Especially in the fisting genre. I heard the gap is huge.

bear1

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

I believe you.

Don't be judging, Ricardo was very gentle and I needed the money.

Fanny Wank

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Is everything on this forum all about identity politics? Jesus christ.

A lot of them are started by trolls

If employers were able to get away with paying women less for the same work a man could do, don’t you think they’d be hiring women left, right and centre and favouring them over male candidates?

What exists is more of an earnings gap than a pay gap. Men, as a group, earn more than women.

This doesn’t mean there is some inherent bias where women are paid less than their male colleagues who are carrying out the same work. It just means a lot of engineers are male and a lot of nurses are female.***

You might question why that is the case, but usually articles on the matter go nowhere near addressing such an issue. There was a study last year by the women’s institute that calculated the actual pay gap to be closer to 4% or something like that.

Does anybody think that women who work for Aer Lingus are paid as much, on average, as the men who work for Aer Lingus? Do you think that they should be paid the same, regardless of whether they are in charge of the personal safety of the entire aircraft or if they are in charge of asking whether you want chicken or fish? I’m exaggerating to hammer home the point here, but this is the basis of an earnings gap.

Here’s a scenario:
Imagine a company of 200 people. 50 male scientists and 50 female scientists, each earing €100k. The rest of the staff is made up of ancillary work like cleaners, security guards, receptionists, typists etc. By some quirk, every one of those people is paid exactly the same, say €30k, regardless of job, religion or sex.

This is the very definition of an equal pay workforce. All men and women are paid the same as their colleagues doing the same job, whether they are scientists or cleaners.

If the ancillary staff are made up of 20 men and 80 women though, this skews the reading of the statistics. All of a sudden, the men in that company earn an average of €80k per year while the women only take home an average that is less than €57k.

40% Paygap, outta nowhere.

The irony is that to correct this imbalance, the correct thing to do would be to fire 30 women and hire the same number of men in their place.

How’s that for equality?


***Overly simplistic and flawed, but you get what I mean

verycool

...again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GWHgVZJQU

This is becoming one of those things where I really judge someone if they believe there is a systemic pay gap issue in our society due to sexism.

Fanny Wank

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is becoming one of those things where I really judge someone if they believe there is a systemic pay gap issue in our society due to sexism.

Problem is good luck trying to explain multivariate regression to the average person

cantdecide

Fanny **** wrote: »

Problem is good luck trying to explain multivariate regression to the average person

First you'd be trying to explain common sense to them.

SeanW

Fanny **** wrote: »

Here's one. There are dozens more a mere Google search away

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/theres-a-gender-wage-gap-for-uber-drivers-but-its-not-caused-by-sexism

Well what do you know? People who work harder, work longer, take more risks ... earn more money? Who'd a thunk it?