General Irish Government discussion thread [See Post 1805]

Water John

Since we count the following day, Saturday suits us better.

Phoebas

L1011 wrote: »

As soon as he got the Junior Ministerial seal he wasn't getting re-elected.

There's a good chance that Aodhan o'Riordain picks up that seat.

That would upset a lot of people around this site.

Bishop of hope

hotmail.com wrote: »

Eventually we'll progress to having elections on Sundays like on the continent.

Saturday is a sabbath too for some.

Cork Boy 53

marieholmfan wrote: »

That's not what I was told.

What you were told. So you are going by second hand information then. Hmmm.......

Cork Boy 53

Water John wrote: »

Since we count the following day, Saturday suits us better.

Will the people doing the counting at the count centres get extra money for doing it all day on a Sunday?

L1011

Phoebas wrote: »

There's a good chance that Aodhan o'Riordain picks up that seat.

That would upset a lot of people around this site.

There was a good chance he was going to get it anyway! Finian was toast. Also, Broughan and McGrath were only pulled ahead of O'Riordain on the last count by John Lyons transfers - and he won't have anywhere near that number to give this time.

Is Broughan actually running anyway? 72 and has been rudderless political since he left I4C; not that I4C is really anything since May.

10000maniacs

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Will the people doing the counting at the count centres get extra money for doing it all day on a Sunday?

Yes, double pay for a Sunday is the norm.

Golfer999999

Question about the election

What happens to the lists of voters the polling station uses when you go to vote. The one they cross your name off when giving you the ballot papers?

is_that_so

L1011 wrote: »

There was a good chance he was going to get it anyway! Finian was toast. Also, Broughan and McGrath were only pulled ahead of O'Riordain on the last count by John Lyons transfers - and he won't have anywhere near that number to give this time.

Is Broughan actually running anyway? 72 and has been rudderless political since he left I4C; not that I4C is really anything since May.

As of the time of this post yeah,he's still hanging around and running.

Water John

AFAIK the candidates are entitled to a copy as to who voted. The story of some family I know, who had promised two different parties, their No 1 for help with a problem. However they did not vote and had peeved off two politicians.

L1011

Golfer999999 wrote: »

Question about the election

What happens to the lists of voters the polling station uses when you go to vote. The one they cross your name off when giving you the ballot papers?

Retained by the Council. I've seen something I assumed was them binned before (in 1999!) but was assured on here that they were probably a personation agent from one the parties own list.

I haven't seen a personation agent in the entire time I've been voting, however.

LordBasil

hotmail.com wrote: »

Will Leo resign as FG leader if FG don't get back into office?

Hopefully!!

I don't think his ego could stomach going from Taoiseach and hob-nobbing with Angela Merkel and Boris Johnson to being leader of the opposition and losing all the power and glamour.

Water John

IWS personating agents dropped away in the late 80s.

liamtech

Apologies if this has already been asked - im playing catch up i only just found out there is an election

So if the election is Saturday the 8th February 2020 - does that mean the count will take place on Sunday 9th? Or will it be monday?

L1011

liamtech wrote: »

Apologies if this has already been asked - im playing catch up i only just found out there is an election

So if the election is Saturday the 8th February 2020 - does that mean the count will take place on Sunday 9th? Or will it be monday?

Count will start on Sunday. Its rarely wrapped up everywhere in a day though

ddarcy

liamtech wrote: »

Apologies if this has already been asked - im playing catch up i only just found out there is an election

So if the election is Saturday the 8th February 2020 - does that mean the count will take place on Sunday 9th? Or will it be monday?

If would start Sunday. Usually when it was held on a Friday, the count occurred over Saturday and Sunday with the odd constituency hitting Monday/ Tuesday.

liamtech

im just thinking in terms of complaints - sunday - church day etc - i cannot remember a Saturday election prior to this one

Golfer999999

Water John wrote: »

AFAIK the candidates are entitled to a copy as to who voted. The story of some family I know, who had promised two different parties, their No 1 for help with a problem. However they did not vote and had peeved off two politicians.

Blimey - i thought voting was private

nothing about that on https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/national_elections/voting_procedure_in_a_general_election.html

L1011

Golfer999999 wrote: »

Blimey - i thought voting was private

nothing about that on https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/national_elections/voting_procedure_in_a_general_election.html

It doesn't specify who you voted for. Or that your vote was even valid.

seamus

Not many young people using boards anymore, but one thing that has been noted is if you registered to vote for the first time recently, then you won't be "officially" registered to vote until 15th February - i.e. after polling day.

Some councils have suggested that they will ignore this and use the 2020 register for this election, but if you know anyone who has registered for the first time or moved house in the last 8 months, to be sure they should get themselves on the supplementary register before next Thursday.

2020Vision

nextime097 wrote: »

How come in British elections you have the count starting after the polls close and most results by morning but not here?

It's far easier to count first past the post votes in single seat constituencies than PR votes in multi-seat constituencies.

Mortelaro

Not alone is the list of who voted available but its commercially for sale

seamus

Mortelaro wrote: »

Not alone is the list of who voted available but its commercially for sale

That's not correct. You appear to be getting confused with the edited register.

The registers used to confirm who voted aren't even available to go in and view IIRC. They can only be examined on court order.

Cork Boy 53

hotmail.com wrote: »

Will Leo resign as FG leader if FG don't get back into office?

Seeing as how most pundits are predicting that FF will be in government after the election will Micheal Martin resign as FF leader if he is not Taoiseach after 8th Feb?

BonnieSituation

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Saturday is a sabbath too for some.

So?

Religion should have ZERO bearing on when an election should be held.

hotmail.com

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Seeing as how most pundits are predicting that FF will be in government after the election will Micheal Martin resign as FF leader if he is not Taoiseach after 8th Feb?

Without a doubt Martin will have to go if FF don't go into government after this election.

Leo's future is a little more uncertain given that he's much younger and only in the job 2 and a half years.

beggars_bush

BonnieSituation wrote: »

So?

Religion should have ZERO bearing on when an election should be held.

Exactly
I'd actually have it at the weekend just to annoy some of them

An Ciarraioch

This is an excellent political profiler quiz - as well as having tons of questions on each topic, it gives you a position on various axes, such as libertarian v authoritarian, multiculturalist v assimilationist, Keynesian v lassez-faire, and of course, your party score:

https://ireland.isidewith.com

retalivity

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

This is an excellent political profiler quiz - as well as having tons of questions on each topic, it gives you a position on various axes, such as libertarian v authoritarian, multiculturalist v assimilationist, Keynesian v lassez-faire, and of course, your party score:

https://ireland.isidewith.com

My top 2 based on that are
83% SF
80% FF

Not a hope of either of them getting a first preference from me

Bishop of hope

BonnieSituation wrote: »

So?

Religion should have ZERO bearing on when an election should be held.

Never said it should, I was quoting to another poster, I couldn't give two fcuks what day it is or even if its an all nighter.