Ryanair Luggage Allowance

yellow hen

Apologies now as this is probably a daft question but here goes..

I've never flown ryanair before and I'm just booking flights to the UK now and on thr most basic (no added extras) flight price it says I can bring one small bag on board and one cabin bag in the hold. Does that mean that my cabin case will be checked in and I therefore won't have access during the flight? And that I have to wait at the carousel once landed for my case?

Stheno

yellow hen wrote: »

Apologies now as this is probably a daft question but here goes..

I've never flown ryanair before and I'm just booking flights to the UK now and on thr most basic (no added extras) flight price it says I can bring one small bag on board and one cabin bag in the hold. Does that mean that my cabin case will be checked in and I therefore won't have access during the flight? And that I have to wait at the carousel once landed for my case?

yes.

Try_harder

the cabin bag will be put in the hold just before you board the plane, so you can't bring any liquids etc over the carry on limits.

You collect it from the carousel the other end.

You won't have access to it during the flight.

yellow hen

Stheno wrote: »

yes.

Thanks. Is that a new thing? I don't usually find ryanair much cheaper (if at all) than aer lingus so what's the point of flying with them? It just seems like a whole lot of hassle.

Also, given that we have checked in and have boarding cards, do we have to go to a ryanair desk to check the case in then?

Sorry for all the questions!

eezipc

yellow hen wrote: »

Thanks. Is that a new thing? I don't usually find ryanair much cheaper (if at all) than aer lingus so what's the point of flying with them? It just seems like a whole lot of hassle.

Relatively new and annoying. It was brought in really because people very pulling the p$$s with the amount of luggage they were bringing on board.
Now they take your bag as you are about to board the plane. They seem to concentrate on little suitcases though. I tend to use a backpack and it has not been taken yet. My wife uses a little suitcase and hers is always taken.
Also, make sure you don't leave a laptop or tablet in your bag.
Regarding choice. If price is similar, I would always pick Aer Lingus. They seem more laid back.

yellow hen

eezipc wrote: »

Relatively new and annoying. It was brought in really because people very pulling the p$$s with the amount of luggage they were bringing on board.
Now they take your bag as you are about to board the plane. They seem to concentrate on little suitcases though. I tend to use a backpack and it has not been taken yet. My wife uses a little suitcase and hers is always taken.
Also, make sure you don't leave a laptop or tablet in your bag.
Regarding choice. If price is similar, I would always pick Aer Lingus. They seem more laid back.

Thanks for that. So the bag doesn't get tagged as it normally would for checked luggage?

I'll just throw my ipad into my handbag.

eezipc

yellow hen wrote: »

Thanks for that. So the bag doesn't get tagged as it normally would for checked luggage?

I'll just throw my ipad into my handbag.

Correct. You still have to bring the bag through security yourself and Ryanair will take it at the gate.

naughtysmurf

If you purchase priority boarding, you can bring your 10kg cabin bag on with you

Locker10a

This policy came about because the cabin can physically not accommodate a case or large luggage for each passenger, it’s a phycial impossobililty and is a problem on all airlines who charge for carry on luggage.
Aer Lingus have the same problem however they allow you to check in your hand luggage for free at the desk which is much handier as you don’t have the hassle of security with liquids and all the rest.
I think Aer Lingus send out texts promoting this service if they know they have a full flights, however they also occasionally have to gate check luggage as do all airlines

vicwatson

yellow hen wrote: »

Apologies now as this is probably a daft question but here goes..

I've never flown ryanair before and I'm just booking flights to the UK now and on thr most basic (no added extras) flight price it says I can bring one small bag on board and one cabin bag in the hold. Does that mean that my cabin case will be checked in and I therefore won't have access during the flight? And that I have to wait at the carousel once landed for my case?

Purchase priority boarding then you can take it into the cabin and no carousel on arrival

yellow hen

vicwatson wrote: »

Purchase priority boarding then you can take it into the cabin and no carousel on arrival

Did just that, thanks.

TheDriver

They seem to have reverted to taking hand luggage off you at desk if you are also checking in a hold bag (if you choose to do so)

Locker10a

TheDriver wrote: »

They seem to have reverted to taking hand luggage off you at desk if you are also checking in a hold bag (if you choose to do so)

Makes sense and relieves the gate staff and baggage lads having to deal with 100+ cases during boarding

dzilla

So that's how they will finance any new agreement made with the unions.

dzilla

dzilla wrote: »

So that's how they will finance any new agreement made with the unions.

Yes paying staff real wages comes at a cost.

My reply is in response to someone else’s comment. So it’s slightly out of context by quoting just my reply.

For years we have had cheap fares off the backs of the workers in Ryanair, now it is only fair that we pay slightly more realistic prices so they stop treating their staff so badly and they can be paid a better wage. Whether this is actually done as a result of this bag charge we can only wait and see.

Noxegon

Interesting that checking the 10kg bag will cost more than carrying it on with priority. I can’t see that lasting.

FWIW my favorite aspect of always getting better was quiet flights before 8am/after 9pm. That was unceremoniously dropped very quickly.

Irish Steve

It was only a matter of time, tagging at the gate was costing them at least 2 extra staff members for each flight to tag the bags before the boarding point, and probably extra ramp staff to handle the bags at the aircraft.

If it goes back to the old concept of checking bags "through the system" before security it will also mean more time getting through the airport, at both ends, being able to take the bags in the cabin was a big advantage that was eroded by the gate check in and reclaim from the belt on arrival, and it will now be even more of a pain.

For us, it will mean half the flights, as this will effectively almost double the cost of a trip to the UK, and we have a defined sum we can spend on trips like this.

Yes, it takes longer, but it will make the option of ferry/rail more attractive than it was, though Brexit may complicate things at the ports over the next while. The whole airport experience has become tedious in recent years and this will just serve to make it even more tedious.

Darwin

Noxegon wrote: »

Interesting that checking the 10kg bag will cost more than carrying it on with priority. I can’t see that lasting.

FWIW my favorite aspect of always getting better was quiet flights before 8am/after 9pm. That was unceremoniously dropped very quickly.

Yes I thought the same thing, they will have to hike the cost of priority boarding now to differentiate the two cases. I really wish they would be honest and just add another few percent onto the cost of the ticket instead, but I guess they still want to brag about cheapest fares etc.

hamiltron

In fairness to Ryanair, it is just a case of looking at the bottom line and making a decision as to what is your best option. From the start, they came at the airline industry with the mentality that, for the short flights that are involved, it should be treated more like a bus service. There may actually be quite a few people who would use the "small personal item" option, and it is good that they get to pay less for that service.

My particular gripe in this case is that in July, I booked a flight for December, standard fare with no check-in luggage and no priority boarding. The terms and Conditions at the time stated that I could bring on a free 10kg hand luggage and a free small personal bag. They are now saying that I will effectively have to pay €16 extra per person for priority boarding to get my 10kg hand luggage on board, or I can cancel the flight.

Firstly, I am surprised that they are legally allowed to change the Ts and Cs retrospectively like that.

Secondly, if they are going to require people to retrospectively buy priority boarding due to a change in rules, let them buy it for the price it would have been when they were originally making the booking (i.e. €12 per person for the return flight instead of €16).

zom

hamiltron wrote: »

Firstly, I am surprised that they are legally allowed to change the Ts and Cs retrospectively like that.

They must have some super strong backup in Brussels, judging from the way they monopolise air transport over Europe, and dictate price literally unstoppable. Merkel and her EU friends take more care over Islamic emigrants than Europeans. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

grimm2005

These new baggage charges are a pain alright. With the exception of short UK trips where I just bring a backpack, I always bring the 10kg wheelie case so it'll force folks who have always been happy paying the base fare to purchase priority, meaning having to mentally add €12 - €16 when comparing fares, although I could definitely see the cost of priority creeping up in time.

I'd rather they go back to their original policy of having to put everything into the one case but if we're going to have to pay for a normal cabin bag, I'll certainly be taking advantage of the increased dimensions of the second smaller carry on and bring my backpack and wheelie case rather than a small string bag as my second bag.

Irish Steve

If they get to the point where there will be a charge for even a small bag in the cabin, that will be the end of my using Ryanair for some trips, as there are some items that I will NEVER put in the hold, and paying for a bag in the hold and a smaller bag in the cabin will mean that it's worth looking at other carriers, who are already pretty close cost wise to Ryanair, and this latest gouge could mean that the balance has tipped in favour of other carriers, or non aviation carriers for some routes.

Most of our trips are to visit family in the UK, so we don't take much in the way of luggage, most of what we need is already with the family, so this change will mean fewer visits, or using alternative options.

grimm2005

Irish Steve wrote: »

Most of our trips are to visit family in the UK, so we don't take much in the way of luggage, most of what we need is already with the family, so this change will mean fewer visits, or using alternative options.

I go to London a few times each year also to visit my brother so pack light, bringing only some spare sets of clothes, tablet, headphones, chargers and some toiletries and these fit easily into a decent sized back pack which they will allow on as a standard under the seat bag so you may well avoid these charges if you don't travel with a wheelie bag. I know personally I won't be booking priority for my UK trips anyway.

Edit: For reference, this Irish Times article provides an example picture of the new size of smaller free bag: https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/ryanair-cabin-charges-what-do-the-changes-mean-1.3606377

rivegauche

Irish Steve wrote: »

it's worth looking at other carriers, who are already pretty close cost wise to Ryanair, and this latest gouge could mean that the balance has tipped in favour of other carriers, or non aviation carriers for some routes.

I direct you to page 58 of the annual report
https://investor.ryanair.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Ryanair-FY-2018-Annual-Report.pdf

Ryanair average booked passenger fare is 39,40. Ancillary revenue which is completely optional is 15,48.
No carrier comes within touching distance of Ryanair average fares.
Ryanair are gouging nobody.

If you want to fly Ryanair at the lowest price then buy a 25 litre bag and bring your own snacks. Problem solved.

zom

rivegauche wrote: »

bring your own snacks.

I heard already about Ryanair considering corkage fee on your own food/drinks on-board.

L1011

zom wrote: »

I heard already about Ryanair considering corkage fee on your own food/drinks on-board.

Fairly certain that can be filed under "charging for the toilet" and "standing room only" as not going to happen. Suspect it was a joke by someone external to the company anyway.

killbillvol2

zom wrote: »

I heard already about Ryanair considering corkage fee on your own food/drinks on-board.

The only thing more stupid than that idea is that someone would believe it.

Under His Eye

They could have a "no outside food/drink" policy if they wanted.

grimm2005

Under His Eye wrote: »

They could have a "no outside food/drink" policy if they wanted.

They could in theory but it would be practically impossible to police, they would have to physically open and check everybody's bags getting on the plane (which would cause huge delays). What are they going to do if they see you with a store bought sandwich on the plane? Kick you off? It's like cinemas who try and stop you bringing in your own food, it doesn't work.

As L1011 said, it's another charging for the toilets type story, will never happen.

Limpy

Wizzair have only 1 bag on board also, I use my back pack with then no problem. It can be larger then a wheelie suit case at times but most airlines don't tag them unless you ask.

My only gripe is when travelling with kids and checking in a bag. At some airports it will be mayham due to the extra long queues. For all the people who missed out on priority boarding they will have to que to check in the bag.

zom

Under His Eye wrote: »

They could have a "no outside food/drink" policy if they wanted.

Lot of places do the same but O'Leary fan-club would never believe this can happen. Not in their lovely "cheap" airline.

Working class heroes

Can someone confirm if they are applying this charge retrospectively? I.e. current bookings?

Drifter50

Deleted User wrote: »

My reply is in response to someone else’s comment. So it’s slightly out of context by quoting just my reply.

For years we have had cheap fares off the backs of the workers in Ryanair, now it is only fair that we pay slightly more realistic prices so they stop treating their staff so badly and they can be paid a better wage. Whether this is actually done as a result of this bag charge we can only wait and see.

Why so ? I will continue to look for the cheapest option to travel. Its of no interest to me what airline staff are paid, good bad or indifferent

Thats complete tosh to say we are able to travel at a better price because Ryanair are paying workers less. If you don`t like your job or conditions, leave and get another one - simple. Don`t try and play the sympathy thing, no-one cares

Irish Steve

rivegauche wrote: »

I direct you to page 58 of the annual report..............

Ryanair average booked passenger fare is 39,40. Ancillary revenue which is completely optional is 15,48.
No carrier comes within touching distance of Ryanair average fares.
Ryanair are gouging nobody.

I have neither the time or the interest to wade through the annual report, and it's irrelevant, as is your quote of the average booked passenger fare, given the significant length of most sectors, it has no relevance to the fares we pay on short hop flights to the UK.

I can assure you that we pay nothing like €55 per trip, and there are other operators on the routes we fly regularly who are close to Ryanair pricing, and with this latest hike, they will probably now be cheaper, unless they choose to increase their prices as a result of the increases being made by Ryanair.

I have just looked at our last 3 trips, and if they apply a €8 per sector per bag charge, that will effectively almost double the cost of flights for us, our 3 most recent trips were considerably cheaper than your quoted "average booked fare", by watching carefully for promotion prices and taking flights at off peak times.

On that basis, an almost 100% increase for a less effective service is as far as I am concerned plain and simple gouging, as that level of increase does not represent the additional cost of providing a different service.

billy few mates

On the bright side, the increased bag charge will mean people will have less bags to drag home when their flight gets cancelled...

Van.Bosch

hamiltron wrote: »

In fairness to Ryanair, it is just a case of looking at the bottom line and making a decision as to what is your best option. From the start, they came at the airline industry with the mentality that, for the short flights that are involved, it should be treated more like a bus service. There may actually be quite a few people who would use the "small personal item" option, and it is good that they get to pay less for that service.

My particular gripe in this case is that in July, I booked a flight for December, standard fare with no check-in luggage and no priority boarding. The terms and Conditions at the time stated that I could bring on a free 10kg hand luggage and a free small personal bag. They are now saying that I will effectively have to pay €16 extra per person for priority boarding to get my 10kg hand luggage on board, or I can cancel the flight.

Firstly, I am surprised that they are legally allowed to change the Ts and Cs retrospectively like that.

Secondly, if they are going to require people to retrospectively buy priority boarding due to a change in rules, let them buy it for the price it would have been when they were originally making the booking (i.e. €12 per person for the return flight instead of €16).

I think you’re fine, it’s only for bookings made after Sept 1st.

trellheim

Ryanair swore they would not make this particular change, some time ago. I was cynical at the time and oh look. On this one I have no idea how they are going to make it work though, you need payment infrastructure at all boarding gates

billie1b

trellheim wrote: »

Ryanair swore they would not make this particular change, some time ago. I was cynical at the time and oh look. On this one I have no idea how they are going to make it work though, you need payment infrastructure at all boarding gates

There is payment infastructure at all the gates

trellheim

There is payment infastructure at all the gates

in every single airport and gate that FR use ?

Under His Eye

Gate staff carry portable payment machines.

trellheim

what, at places like Murcia, Leeds Bradford, Riga ? Everywhere ?

billie1b

trellheim wrote: »

what, at places like Murcia, Leeds Bradford, Riga ? Everywhere ?

Yes, the airport system is European wide, I can go to Riga to work and use my sign ins from Dublin to log in and it works perfectly

Carawaystick

Locker10a wrote: »

This policy came about because the cabin can physically not accommodate a case or large luggage for each passenger, it’s a phycial impossobililty and is a problem on all airlines who charge for carry on luggage.

Is there not space under the seat in front for a cabin sized case? which only leaves 6 people to fit their cases in the overhead bins :rolleyes:

Limpy

It's a money spinner simple as.

Locker10a

Carawaystick wrote: »

Locker10a wrote: »

This policy came about because the cabin can physically not accommodate a case or large luggage for each passenger, it’s a phycial impossobililty and is a problem on all airlines who charge for carry on luggage.

Is there not space under the seat in front for a cabin sized case? which only leaves 6 people to fit their cases in the overhead bins :rolleyes:

Absolutely not a regular cabin sized case wouldn’t fit under the seat securely, not even close

Irish Steve

Locker10a wrote: »

Absolutely not a regular cabin sized case wouldn’t fit under the seat securely, not even close

Life would be so much easier if the airlines would agree on a standard size case, which could then be checked for valid size at airside security, and if it is too large, (or too heavy), the owner has the option to return to the bag drop point and check it in, and where appropriate pay the appropriate surcharge for over size or over weight bags.


Some of the supposed cabin size bags that arrive at the gate defy the imagination, the only way they are going to fit in the overhead bin is with the aid of a pnuematic hammer!

Nijmegen

Irish Steve wrote: »

Life would be so much easier if the airlines would agree on a standard size case, which could then be checked for valid size at airside security, and if it is too large, (or too heavy), the owner has the option to return to the bag drop point and check it in, and where appropriate pay the appropriate surcharge for over size or over weight bags.


Some of the supposed cabin size bags that arrive at the gate defy the imagination, the only way they are going to fit in the overhead bin is with the aid of a pnuematic hammer!

There have been calls in the US for Congress to regulate things like seat pitch. Naturally they're not having it over there; but given the EU loves to regulate all it can see one wonders if this isn't a cause they'd take up. Standardisation of baggage allowances cross union seems within their common market remit and might be a popular win.

smuggler.ie

Right.... and if, for whatever reason, ALL passengers would get priority tickets, plane suddenly would become flexible, would expand and would be able to accommodate all luggage.

Quackster

smuggler.ie wrote: »

Right.... and if, for whatever reason, ALL passengers would get priority tickets, plane suddenly would become flexible, would expand and would be able to accommodate all luggage.

Priority boarding tickets are limited to 95 per flight. If you're not amongst the first 95 to buy priority boarding, your only option for carrying a second larger piece of luggage is to check it in.

smuggler.ie

Quackster wrote: »

Priority boarding tickets are limited to 95 per flight. If you're not amongst the first 95 to buy priority boarding, your only option for carrying a second larger piece of luggage is to check it in.

Oooh....right .... and if for whatever reason all passengers will go for option to carry their second bag, that is where plane will transform into flex....
Once were allowed to carry extra 10KG case/bag people choose to save rather paying £/€25 for check in 20kg.
Ryanair revenue dropped so they change rules now.
People still will go for cheaper option, that is £/€6 and still go with extra bag.
I cant see where is this New Bag Policy From November Will Cut Check Bag Fees & Reduce Boarding Delays.

A lot of bullsh1t excuses just to get more money.