"I seen" and "I done" have gone too far!

Resverathrole

The latter one seems particularly unique to Dublin. These sayings are really catching on. But I think the following article shows that it's gone too far.

See for yourself. The dumb journalist, who's probably from Dublin, wrote 'seen' instead of 'saw' in the subtitle to the article below!

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/mma/khabib-mcgregor-abdelaziz-helwani-ufc-mma-169743

"It's been one year, eight months and eleven days since we last seen Conor McGregor inside the Octagon"

What the actual fcuk!?

verycool

Ah Engerlish do be our second languich it do be.

Also, I doubt those reading an article on McGregor would pick up the error.

seamus

I wish I had so little to be worrying about.

Jim Bob Scratcher

Joe.ie, sure what do you expect?

evolving_doors

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Joe.ie, sure what do you expect?

Could you be more Pacific?

Resverathrole

verycool wrote: »

Also, I doubt those reading an article on McGregor would pick up the error.

Do you you think he'll ever even fight again?

verycool

evolving_doors wrote: »

Could you be more Pacific?

I sea what you did there!

Resverathrole wrote: »

Do you you think he'll ever even fight again?

Couldn't give a flying f*ck to be honest.

Mackmatic

Man alive, you need some real problems in your life pal. I done had enough of you bleedin whingers lately. I seen another thread like this recently and it was just more of the same. Whinging on top of whinging.

Saps.

Electric Sheep

It's not unique to Dublin. It's ubiquitous in Ireland even among "educated" people. I see it daily on boards.ie. I suspect most don't even know that it's incorrect.

demanufactured

Been vs Being

Drives me mad when I see those 2 mixed up, especially in work emails.

RWCNT

Resverathrole wrote: »

The latter one seems particularly unique to Dublin. These sayings are really catching on. But I think the following article shows that it's gone too far.

See for yourself. The dumb journalist, who's probably from Dublin, wrote 'seen' instead of 'saw' in the subtitle to the article below!

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/mma/khabib-mcgregor-abdelaziz-helwani-ufc-mma-169743

"It's been one year, eight months and eleven days since we last seen Conor McGregor inside the Octagon"

What the actual fcuk!?

I quite like "I seen", having lived in the UK for nearly 10 years and finding my fondness for the Irish vernacular increasing exponentially.

Don't think I'm familiar with "I done" though, how would that be used in a sentence? "I done the dishes" sort of thing?

Ursus Horribilis

I seen and I done aren't Dublin things. I've heard people saying those down the country for years.

verycool

Electric Sheep wrote: »

It's not unique to Dublin. It's ubiquitous in Ireland even among "educated" people. I see it daily on boards.ie. I suspect most don't even know that it's incorrect.

I think what OP is getting at here is that online publications are showing a decline in standards (don't get me started on joe.ie).



You don't type how you speak, as it were. So, what's slipping in are a lot of colloquialisations which others will pick up. Almost like a printed Chinese whispers.

Mars Bar

I used to always get it wrong and my teachers would correct me but never explained why. Then my best friend explained it to me like a teacher should have done.

Sal Butamol

It's fcuking rampant.

I seen this, I seen that.

It makes you sound like a cabbage

mikeymouse

It's been one year, eight months and eleven days since we last seen Conor McGregor inside the Octagon"
Schoolboy error!
couldn't count the days on his colander

anewme

Should of instead of should have drives me mad!

JCDUB

Resverathrole wrote: »

What the actual fcuk!?

You should of emailed the journo.😋

anewme

anewme wrote: »

Should of instead of should have drives me mad!

That and "yay or nay".
Reddit is full of "i am laying on the couch" or "my dog likes to lay down" which really gets to me...

Joe prim

mikeymouse wrote: »

It's been one year, eight months and eleven days since we last seen Conor McGregor inside the Octagon"
Schoolboy error!
couldn't count the days on his colander

Maybe he didn't go to riting collage?

Kitty6277

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

I seen and I done aren't Dublin things. I've heard people saying those down the country for years.

I agree, very common here in Tipperary :rolleyes:

ElChe32

riffmongous

Languages change lads, get over it. It's particularly amusing when people give out about english which is already so incredibly bastardised and all over the place in grammar and pronunciation, and spoken in dozens of different dialects around the world, but yet some people get so worked over any deviation from a seemingly arbitrary standard set not all that long ago

whisky_galore

It's the copy/paste school of journalism and it's creeping into the print media now.

People have an amazing thing, the internet, at their disposal and they still can't get it right.
Grammatical and spelling errors all over the place.

I wouldn't mind errors in posts on an online forum, but for news stories and event publicity there should be a lot more checks going on. It's just plain sloppy.

MistyCheese

It were you, you done it, I seen ya!

I should of known...

My grammas got die of beetus


'Try and' is another bloody one I see and hear everywhere.

I'm generally appalled by the horrific state into which language has decended. Not comments on forums, fair game, but horrendous typos from apparently reputable sources. I have often despaired at content from people are are professional writers.

Sal Butamol

Half the trainee teachers are illiterate as it is.

jim salter

verycool wrote: »

I seen what you done their!

FYP

verycool

jim salter wrote: »

FYP

NOOOOOO!


*hyperventilates in to a Dubray Books bag*

Resverathrole

riffmongous wrote: »

Languages change lads, get over it. It's particularly amusing when people give out about english which is already so incredibly bastardised and all over the place in grammar and pronunciation, and spoken in dozens of different dialects around the world, but yet some people get so worked over any deviation from a seemingly arbitrary standard set not all that long ago

No. It's wrong. Plain and simple.

Cantona's Collars

verycool wrote: »

NOOOOOO!


*hyperventilates in to a Dubray Books bag*

Ah there, they're,their.

You'll be grand.

Resverathrole

anewme wrote: »

Should of instead of should have drives me mad!

At least you don't notice that verbally.

AfterLife

Resverathrole wrote: »

No. It's wrong. Plain and simple.

Declan Kiberd would disagree. Hiberno-English is real and valid.

Turnipman

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Half the trainee teachers are illiterate as it is.

Only half? :eek:

Turnipman

AfterLife wrote: »

Declan Kiberd would disagree. Hiberno-English is real and valid.

In fairness, there's nothing that Kiberd enjoys more than a good disagreement - about almost anything!

RWCNT

Resverathrole wrote: »

At least you don't notice that verbally.

Ages ago on here there was a thread about grammar errors that people find annoying and two posters went back and forth on that point for several pages, with one poster insisting they had heard people verbally say "should of". It was pretty humorous. I don't know how the poster could possibly have heard people say it unless they were speaking in slow motion.

verycool

RWCNT wrote: »

Ages ago on here there was a thread about grammar errors that people find annoying and two posters went back and forth on that point for several pages, with one poster insisting they had heard people verbally say "should of". It was pretty humorous. I don't know how the poster could possibly have heard people say it unless they were speaking in slow motion.

As someone else mentioned, when said aloud my guess is that it becomes a contraction... like "should've" which can be easily misheard.

Greyfox

Resverathrole wrote: »

No. It's wrong. Plain and simple.

It's not really, this is the internet age, people don't have time to care about tiny changes that have zero impact in the real world

Westernyelp

The people who use 'of' in place of 'have' drive me nuts!

I should of been there.... Grrrrrr

TomSweeney

Resverathrole wrote: »

Do you you think he'll ever even fight again?

Sure didn't he batter a bus in New York there a few weeks back ?

of course he'll fight again!

dxhound2005

anewme wrote: »

Should of instead of should have drives me mad!

You have good hearing if you can always distinguish between should've and should of in speech.

sabat

I like to use "them" instead of "those" when the context suits eg: "oh man, look at them titties."

acai berry

Possibly a neighbour of McGregor's wrote the article???? Maybe even a relative!

Resverathrole

Resverathrole wrote: »

The latter one seems particularly unique to Dublin. These sayings are really catching on. But I think the following article shows that it's gone too far.

See for yourself. The dumb journalist, who's probably from Dublin, wrote 'seen' instead of 'saw' in the subtitle to the article below!

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/mma/khabib-mcgregor-abdelaziz-helwani-ufc-mma-169743

"It's been one year, eight months and eleven days since we last seen Conor McGregor inside the Octagon"

What the actual fcuk!?

you do have to wonder what people are actually thought in schools these days.

verycool

Aegir wrote: »

you do have to wonder what people are actually thought in schools these days.

:mad:

verycool

verycool wrote: »

:mad:

my pet hate.

how people can mix up taught and thought is beyond me, but they do it regularly.

duffman13

If you think that's bad, you should of seen what I done last week.

murpho999

The one i see more now is people using apostrophe's in plural's.

It's just wrong but so many people think it's right.

jim salter

verycool wrote: »

NOOOOOO!


*hyperventilates in to a Dubray Books bag*

Well, yous should of seen it coming

DONTMATTER

It's only a stupid language that was forced on us. We can speak it anyway we want. Even spell it anyway we want.

murpho999

riffmongous wrote: »

Languages change lads, get over it. It's particularly amusing when people give out about english which is already so incredibly bastardised and all over the place in grammar and pronunciation, and spoken in dozens of different dialects around the world, but yet some people get so worked over any deviation from a seemingly arbitrary standard set not all that long ago

No, languages don't change in that way.
Saw/seen, did/done being mixed up is not a language being developed.

It's simply bad grammar and it should not be excused as anything else.