Where do Irish bottled water companies get their water?

juno10353

http://www.finewaters.com/bottled-waters-of-the-world/ireland

With all our bottled water companies I wonder where they are sourcing their water. Who they are paying for it, and are they facing restrictions?

Stanford

juno10353 wrote: »

http://www.finewaters.com/bottled-waters-of-the-world/ireland

With all our bottled water companies I wonder where they are sourcing their water. Who they are paying for it, and are they facing restrictions?

Most of the bottled water companies in Ireland source their water from natural springs on land which they own resulting in the term "bottled at source", since they own the well they do not pay for the water, others have natural water bottled by third parties and thus have to pay for it or have business arrangements whereby the water is sourced and bottled elsewhere but retailed by others

testicles

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Cantona's Collars

Peckham.

JohnnyFlash

River Rock is from the Belfast public water supply.

Stanford

testicles wrote: »

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Tesco water is an example of water sourced and bottled by a third party and retailed by Tesco. It is illegal to describe tap water as spring water since tap water is flourinated and treated, check the label on the Tesco bottle..!!

Stanford

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

River Rock is from the Belfast public water supply.

River Rock describe their water as "Deep RiverRock is a high quality, Irish water bottled and sourced from the glacial hill of Co Antrim". This implies that the water is from a natural aquafir or spring.

juno10353

So bottled water companies can sink a well, extract water and sell it back to us without being charged anything for the water. Yet here we are in a heatwave surrounded and sitting upon water and being told to restrict using household water, while paying for bottled water.

juno10353

testicles wrote: »

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Who are they paying for it

Stanford

https://www.fsai.ie/faq/bottled_water.html

ELM327

juno10353 wrote: »

Who are they paying for it

NI Water

Stanford

juno10353 wrote: »

So bottled water companies can sink a well, extract water and sell it back to us without being charged anything for the water. Yet here we are in a heatwave surrounded and sitting upon water and being told to restrict using household water, while paying for bottled water.

If they own the well then YES, water used for industrial and household use is sourced and distributed by Irish Water

CeilingFly

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

River Rock is from the Belfast public water supply.

Not quite, but it is just from a borehole into ground water, purified and some minerals added.

Super value basics range is the same.

Capt'n Midnight

Stanford wrote: »

River Rock describe their water as "Deep RiverRock is a high quality, Irish water bottled and sourced from the glacial hill of Co Antrim". This implies that the water is from a natural aquafir or spring.

Deep River Rock was Dasani, a name no longer used by the Coca Cola company in these parts since they were quite literally incapable of bottling tap water.

juno10353

So southern Ireland based water companies, like Ballygowan etc, can drop wells, take as much water as they wish, whenever they wish, then sell back to us and export the rest all over the world. With NO RESTRICTIONS in times of drought!

Yet, we are being asked to spy on our neighbours water use!

One crazy country

CeilingFly

juno10353 wrote: »

Yet here we are in a heatwave surrounded and sitting upon water and being told to restrict using household water, while paying for bottled water.

Incorrect

Irish water has asked that we restrict wasteful use of water.

my3cents

juno10353 wrote: »

So southern Ireland based water companies, like Ballygowan etc, can drop wells, take as much water as they wish, whenever they wish, then sell back to us and export the rest all over the world. With NO RESTRICTIONS in times of drought!

Yet, we are being asked to spy on our neighbours water use!

One crazy country

I don't think that they even need to register the water abstraction or how much they take.

Its one of those things the EU is on to us about.

juno10353

Stanford wrote: »

testicles wrote: »

Tesco's is from the tap

Tesco water is an example of water sourced and bottled by a third party and retailed by Tesco. It is illegal to describe tap water as spring water since tap water is flourinated and treated, check the label on the Tesco bottle..!!

NI tap water has no added fluoride. All water can contain trace particles of fluoride from rock strata

Franz Von Peppercorn

juno10353 wrote: »

So bottled water companies can sink a well, extract water and sell it back to us without being charged anything for the water. Yet here we are in a heatwave surrounded and sitting upon water and being told to restrict using household water, while paying for bottled water.

You can sink a well.

Franz Von Peppercorn

juno10353 wrote: »

So southern Ireland based water companies, like Ballygowan etc, can drop wells, take as much water as they wish, whenever they wish, then sell back to us and export the rest all over the world. With NO RESTRICTIONS in times of drought!

Yet, we are being asked to spy on our neighbours water use!

One crazy country

Because they are not taking from the same public source.

The only craziness about this country is the desire to bleat on about such minor issues.

Nonoperational

juno10353 wrote: »

So southern Ireland based water companies, like Ballygowan etc, can drop wells, take as much water as they wish, whenever they wish, then sell back to us and export the rest all over the world. With NO RESTRICTIONS in times of drought!

Yet, we are being asked to spy on our neighbours water use!

One crazy country

Spring water, believe it or not, is not unique to Ireland. The companies employ people, pay tax, generate jobs in supply chain etc...

You're taking a very narrow view of it.

Wanderer78

Worked for a small water company years ago, public supply was the source, it be naive to think others are not at the same game!

Gwynplaine

I can never understand how people buy bottled water. Or kindling.

my3cents

Gwynplaine wrote: »

I can never understand how people buy bottled water. Or kindling.

Bottle water because sometimes our Irish Water water is just plain mank!

Kindling I agree.

Living Off The Splash

Gwynplaine wrote: »

I can never understand how people buy bottled water. Or kindling.

or those plastic bags for home litter bins.

RhubarbCrumble

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/323904/thirsty-work-limerick-spring-water-company-sees-unbelievable-rise-in-demand.html

Greyfox

my3cents wrote: »

Bottle water because sometimes our Irish Water water is just plain mank

Most of the time it tastes the same though, I drink bottled water and refill with tap water and I cannot tell the difference

my3cents

Greyfox wrote: »

Most of the time it tastes the same though, I drink bottled water and refill with tap water and I cannot tell the difference

Apart from the chlorine taste our tap water is OK most of the time but if you like drinking green water with a sediment the odd time thats fine by me.

Nekarsulm

juno10353 wrote: »

So southern Ireland based water companies, like Ballygowan etc, can drop wells, take as much water as they wish, whenever they wish, then sell back to us and export the rest all over the world. With NO RESTRICTIONS in times of drought!

Yet, we are being asked to spy on our neighbours water use!

One crazy country

Why not do the same yourself?
About 3000 euro to bore a well ( depending on depth), about 2000 for a submersible pump, pressure vessel, switchgear and underground cable, piping etc, plus you should build a pumphouse to contain the above equipment. Say another 800.
Hundred or so a year for ESB to run the pump, plus best set aside a hundred a year for repairs etc.
So for roughly 6000 euro you can supply all your households water needs.
Saves you from paying those pesky Irish Water metered charges.
Oh wait.......

Wanderer78

Nekarsulm wrote:

Why not do the same yourself? About 3000 euro to bore a well ( depending on depth), about 2000 for a submersible pump, pressure vessel, switchgear and underground cable, piping etc, plus you should build a pumphouse to contain the above equipment. Say another 800. Hundred or so a year for ESB to run the pump, plus best set aside a hundred a year for repairs etc. So for roughly 6000 euro you can supply all your households water needs. Saves you from paying those pesky Irish Water metered charges. Oh wait.......

Planning needed for a well?

Capt'n Midnight

Tap water is a cheap drink even if you don't have your own well.

https://www.water.ie/support/questions-and-answers/how-much-will-i-pay-for-m/


for business in SDCC it's €1.93 per 1,000 litres so once you pay the standing charges it's another 0.193c per litre

Nekarsulm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Planning needed for a well?

It's usually included/mentioned in the planning application if building a new house, but if I want to drill for an existing house there is no restriction.

The location of your / your neighbours septic tanks and the land type needs careful consideration.
You test the water for potability after you have the well working.
Some pain in the hole to spend all that money and find the water is contaminated, or has sulphur in it....

Wanderer78

Nekarsulm wrote:

The location of your / your neighbours septic tanks and the land type needs careful consideration. You test the water for potability after you have the well working. Some pain in the hole to spend all that money and find the water is contaminated, or has sulphur in it....

Any restrictions in urban areas?

Nekarsulm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Any restrictions in urban areas?

You need to be able to get a lorry larger than the size of a readymix truck reversed into position plus 6 or 8 hours with the engine roaring driving the hydraulic pumps and big compressors would have the busybodies melting the phone lines to the Council....

Who knows what leaking sewerage mains/storm drain would be leeching into the ground water 200 feet under your garden.

These guys drilled my well.
https://www.briodydrilling.ie

Graces7

When I was new in Ireland, we investigated the idea of a well. Not the very deep bored kind.. Just one the diggerman could access .A local water diviner attended and found water but at about 20 feet down, was too far.
He taught me how to divine. Amazing feeling.

Ended up with run off from the top bog.An ingenious system Locals would not use mains water, but they all knew all the local wells. I always had big water bottles in the car to fill wherever I could for drinking.

Nekarsulm

Graces, there is a spring in a field near our local town,which never runs dry.
The farmer sank an ordinary wavin pipe into it and brought it out at the roadside and put it on a post with a tap
Dozens of people fill containersfrom it, and have done for years.
Last year the Co.Council took the tap off the pipe and blanked it off twice.
The second time, the farmer went to the Council and told them that the next man they sent out to interfere with his property would get a hiding.
They've left it alone since.

Ash.J.Williams

juno10353 wrote: »

So bottled water companies can sink a well, extract water and sell it back to us without being charged anything for the water. Yet here we are in a heatwave surrounded and sitting upon water and being told to restrict using household water, while paying for bottled water.

Dig a well then

dense

Gwynplaine wrote: »

I can never understand how people buy bottled water.

Nor I. But you see a lot don't have tap water at home, or if they do yhey reckon theres something wrong with it, preferring the dirt and grit in mineral water, and a lot simply need to fit in with the others all going about clutching bottles of water for fear of dying of thirst between watering holes of our permanently parched, sun drenched land.



It's a relatively new thing, a bit like obesity.


Back in my day all we heard about was anorexia and there was no such thing as bottled water.


The posh people up the road did have Evian on their picnics until they realised it looked a bit Naive.

juno10353

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/world/americas/mexico-coca-cola-diabetes.html#click=https://t.co/bGtRwo4kZk

MadYaker

dense wrote: »

Nor I. But you see a lot don't have tap water at home, or if they do yhey reckon theres something wrong with it, preferring the dirt and grit in mineral water, and a lot simply need to fit in with the others all going about clutching bottles of water for fear of dying of thirst between watering holes of our permanently parched, sun drenched land.



It's a relatively new thing, a bit like obesity.


Back in my day all we heard about was anorexia and there was no such thing as bottled water.


The posh people up the road did have Evian on their picnics until they realised it looked a bit Naive.

Sometimes I just can't be arsed filling a bottle at home and bringing it with me. Also the tap water where I am tastes like a swimming pool. I buy bottles of volvic, much nicer.

Joshua J

Tap and bottled water most definitely does not taste or smell the same to me. Each to their own though.

Chancer3001

Evian is the nicest tasting water by far

Joshua J

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Evian is the nicest tasting water by far

Aye I find Evian and Ballygowan very similar and prefer them. Volvic I find a little "hard" for want of a better word. The family went to a restuarnat recently and got served Ballygowan in glass bottles with the screw caps. One sip and I knew straight away it was tap water.

testicles

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ohnonotgmail

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Evian is the nicest tasting water by far

It is S.Pellegrino or nothing for me.

Franz Von Peppercorn

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It is S.Pellegrino or nothing for me.

Well. La di da.

Irish bottled water doesn’t taste too different from tap.

Some tap water dish the country is nice, Dublin is kinda bland.

Graces7

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Graces, there is a spring in a field near our local town,which never runs dry.
The farmer sank an ordinary wavin pipe into it and brought it out at the roadside and put it on a post with a tap
Dozens of people fill containersfrom it, and have done for years.
Last year the Co.Council took the tap off the pipe and blanked it off twice.
The second time, the farmer went to the Council and told them that the next man they sent out to interfere with his property would get a hiding.
They've left it alone since.

The one I used most in those first years was like that. He had piped it to a tap by the road... maybe the same one, . and good for him ..Well done..

Graces7

Nekarsulm wrote: »

It's usually included/mentioned in the planning application if building a new house, but if I want to drill for an existing house there is no restriction.

The location of your / your neighbours septic tanks and the land type needs careful consideration.
You test the water for potability after you have the well working.
Some pain in the hole to spend all that money and find the water is contaminated, or has sulphur in it....

The smell of rotten eggs? Had one rental with its own well and it had been empty a while when I moved in. The water stank of sulphur until I ran it for hours

But it is good for you they say.

AndrewJRenko

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Graces, there is a spring in a field near our local town,which never runs dry.
The farmer sank an ordinary wavin pipe into it and brought it out at the roadside and put it on a post with a tap
Dozens of people fill containersfrom it, and have done for years.
Last year the Co.Council took the tap off the pipe and blanked it off twice.
The second time, the farmer went to the Council and told them that the next man they sent out to interfere with his property would get a hiding.
They've left it alone since.

What's the farmer's plan for when a sheep or fox dies upstream and is decomposing into the stream?

my3cents

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

What's the farmer's plan for when a sheep or fox dies upstream and is decomposing into the stream?

You mean a sheep will burrow into the ground just to be annoying so it can die and pollute a spring?

Roger Hassenforder

my3cents wrote: »

You mean a sheep will burrow into the ground just to be annoying so it can die and pollute a spring?

Spring hydrology can be very complicated!
Esp non artesian and in karst regions.