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Wimbledon 2018

  • 29-06-2018 12:58pm
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Draws announced this morning.

    Women's draw

    Men's draw

    Because I like making incorrect predictions that we can all laugh at later, I'm gonna pick Kvitova and Cilic as the two champions.

    Let the anarchy begin :cool:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Reasonably balanced draw for once. I'll go hesitatingly for Fed and could be anyone from 25 names on the women's side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,841 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Dimitrov got a tough first round match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Arytonblue


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Dimitrov got a tough first round match.
    On paper maybe, but Wawrinka is notoriously poor on grass and he's not been at the races for a good while now, Dimitrov should really be making Round 4 at least. Federer ended up with a pretty favourable draw, could meet Coric in R4 who just beat him in Halle but he really shouldn't struggle against him unless he has an off day. A potential SF with Cilic could be really good. He obviously crumbled in the final last year but he's shown to be pretty good on grass. Having said that he's lost three straight big GS matches to Fed in a row including that QF two years ago where he threw away a 2 set lead, you still have to question his propensity to bottle these encounters.

    The other side of the draw is a crazy mess with Rafa, Zverev, Kygrios, Delpo, Djoko AND Murray. A potential R3 between Murray and Delpo could be fun. It's hard to predict with a lot of those guys. Rafa is always a question on grass since 2011 and may still be carrying an injury, Zverev still mostly unproven at SW19, Kygrios is always a wildcard in terms of which version of him will show up, Delpo has at times been impressive this year so could be a real threat, Djokovic looked good at Queen's but it still might be too soon for him to have a really deep run, could be wrong though. Murray is obviously a complete unknown. He did well in the last two tournaments considering how long he's been out but he's sounded somewhat unsure over whether he can really compete in this tournament. He could do a Fed Australia 17' of course but it'll be a tough aul slog for him to get back into playing best of 5 matches again, especially considering the guys he'll likely have to get through to even reach a QF. Winning a couple of matches will likely be a success for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Wawrinka looked utter gash against a hugely rusty Murray last week. Dimitrov will polish him off in 3 if he fancies going deep I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭NoviGlitzko


    Cilic the real danger for Roger in a potential semi. Nadal's draw in the balance with Novak there, but a lot of variables at play for each. Really interested to see how Murray get's on. Delpo 3rd round would be great to see.

    Really hoping for 21st GSM for Federer!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,841 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Murray has pulled out. Said he is not ready for 5 set matches. Probably the correct decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,509 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    Henman Hill
    Rusedski Ridge
    Murray Mount

    Edmund Elevation it is so :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭NoviGlitzko


    Was sad to hear it. Hope he makes some sort of impact on the US hardcourt's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Yeah Murray was given a very tough section so I'd doubt he had the heart/fitness to compete in what could have turned into a few early 5 setters

    Anyhow, as is often the case in a World Cup year, Wimbledon slips under the radar a bit. I do think its Cilic's time though

    Going to be a very weird situation with the World Cup Final clashing with the Mens final - unless its a 3 set thrashing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    jr86 wrote: »
    Yeah Murray was given a very tough section so I'd doubt he had the heart/fitness to compete in what could have turned into a few early 5 setters

    Anyhow, as is often the case in a World Cup year, Wimbledon slips under the radar a bit. I do think its Cilic's time though

    Going to be a very weird situation with the World Cup Final clashing with the Mens final - unless its a 3 set thrashing

    They really should bring it forward to noon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    They really should bring it forward to noon.

    Absolutely. Wimbledon very set in their ways though

    Viewing figures will be an all time low for the final


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,841 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    jr86 wrote: »
    Chivito550 wrote: »
    They really should bring it forward to noon.

    Absolutely. Wimbledon very set in their ways though

    Viewing figures will be an all time low for the final


    I doubt it will affect viewing figures unless England make the final. If England do make the final I can see Wimbledon moving the start time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Ah now the World Cup Final is one of the most watched events in the world

    There will be essentially zero casual sport viewers choosing a tennis match over that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    Glad Murray is not in it, I can't look at his snarly angry head.
    Roger to win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Stephens out but, really, how big a shock is it? Played no warm up event and only landed in the UK on Friday which would lead you to question just how big a priority this was right now. More of a mild tremor I would say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,509 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    Stephens out but, really, how big a shock is it? Played no warm up event and only landed in the UK on Friday which would lead you to question just how big a priority this was right now. More of a mild tremor I would say.
    Is she not a fan of grass?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    paulie21 wrote: »
    Is she not a fan of grass?

    She could well be and it should suit her well enough but, unless your something special like Serena maybe, I dont think you can just turn up and expect to fire straight away. Vekic, who has good form on grass, was way too dangerous an opponent to expect to get away with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,841 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Stephens out but, really, how big a shock is it? Played no warm up event and only landed in the UK on Friday which would lead you to question just how big a priority this was right now. More of a mild tremor I would say.
    If that is what she has done then it shows she doesn't care about Wimbledon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    No real urge to watch/tune in this year when a 36, almost 37 year old is the bookies favorite to lift the title, 15 years after his first win...great and all as he was, and seems, is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Arytonblue


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Dimitrov got a tough first round match.
    Looks like I was completely wrong on this one! Good call :o. Really bad loss for Dimitrov though, hard to take him seriously as a potential contender anymore when he's losing first round matches, even if it was Wawrinka. Has a serious lack of bottle. Nice comeback from Stan though, would love to see him back competing on the tour again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    Oh.

    My.

    F***ing.

    God.

    6 match points!

    She needs a smack up the ar** that one. Swinging for the fences on Wimbledon match points. Even a junior wouldn't act like that.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Gwynplaine wrote: »
    Glad Murray is not in it, I can't look at his snarly angry head.
    Roger to win.

    One of the worst things about Wimbledon is having to put up with these dumb posts :rolleyes:
    walshb wrote: »
    No real urge to watch/tune in this year when a 36, almost 37 year old is the bookies favorite to lift the title, 15 years after his first win...great and all as he was, and seems, is!

    But it's Goaterer! The King!! The Maestro!!! The Gentleman!!1! etc. etc.


    Didn't see any of today's action, so can only comment on results.

    Nice to see Svitolina is still useless at the grand slams. A bit like the WTA version of Zverev. Radwanska needed three sets on her best surface to get past a player I've genuinely never heard of, so I can't see her going too deep here. Not too surprised about Sloane losing, Vekic is decent enough on grass. Her apparently only arriving at Wimbledon on Friday doesn't sound good, I know she doesn't care outside of the slams but there'd be no reason for her to be indifferent to a tournament where she's previously reached the QF's.

    Can only roll my eyes at that Dimitrov result. Coric losing at the first hurdle is a bit surprising though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Oasis1974


    Any female totty worth looking out for this year? Not well up on this sport but willing to watch it if there's some fine fillies prancing about. And don't say manky Monica or horrible Hingis because I know there out to pasture lol. I think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    Oasis1974 wrote: »
    Any female totty worth looking out for this year?

    Aryna Sabalenka. But unfortunately she lost her first round today.

    Eugenie Bouchard playing tomorrow. Enjoy it while it lasts because she won't probably. Another Kournikova in the making that one.

    Can only roll my eyes at that Dimitrov result.

    I'm gone past caring at this stage. Dimitrov and Monfils might be the two biggest wasted talents of this last generation. Surprised the latter beat Gasquet today. It won't last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Really enjoyed the Federer exhibition match today


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Oasis1974 wrote: »
    Any female totty worth looking out for this year? Not well up on this sport but willing to watch it if there's some fine fillies prancing about. And don't say manky Monica or horrible Hingis because I know there out to pasture lol. I think?


    Ostapenko is a cutie, although some beg to disagree.

    walshb wrote: »
    No real urge to watch/tune in this year when a 36, almost 37 year old is the bookies favorite to lift the title, 15 years after his first win...great and all as he was, and seems, is!


    He's not your average 37 year old though is he? Every match he plays should be cherished, particularly at Wimbledon. Another sublime masterclass today but this can't go on forever. We'll never see his likes again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    walshb wrote: »
    No real urge to watch/tune in this year when a 36, almost 37 year old is the bookies favorite to lift the title, 15 years after his first win...great and all as he was, and seems, is!

    This comment makes no logical sense to me on so many levels. Either you like Tennis or you don't. Why would one who does refrain from watching it for whatever reason?

    There seems to be a demographic of ppl who just watch sport sport sport when they have no real interest in the sport itself - just watching it on TV, an armchair enthusiast.

    What difference his age makes I've not the first clue. I would have though the fact he is so much older makes his participation in the tournament a point of interest i.e. someone being able to play better than anyone else at this age.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    AllForIt wrote: »
    This comment makes no logical sense to me on so many levels. Either you like Tennis or you don't. Why would one who does refrain from watching it for whatever reason?

    There seems to be a demographic of ppl who just watch sport sport sport when they have no real interest in the sport itself - just watching it on TV, an armchair enthusiast.

    What difference his age makes I've not the first clue. I would have though the fact he is so much older makes his participation in the tournament a point of interest i.e. someone being able to play better than anyone else at this age.

    I think Walshb, like me, is a little bored of the Federer domination/adulation. And that's ok too. A heavy favourite strolling to a title with little opposition is only interesting for fans of that player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    AllForIt wrote: »
    just watching it on TV, an armchair enthusiast.

    I think you've hit the nail on the head here. Only players can truly understand it. I could watch that 37 year old move around all day. When him and Nadal finally retire this sport will enter a dark age. And all those armchairs will be crying for them to come back.

    Is there any way to do red button stuff on BBC player??? I'd like to catch some of Bethanie mattek-sands and Šafářová's doubles today.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    I think Walshb, like me, is a little bored of the Federer domination/adulation. And that's ok too. A heavy favourite strolling to a title with little opposition is only interesting for fans of that player.

    The Nadal fanbois had their go last month, now its our turn!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    I think Walshb, like me, is a little bored of the Federer domination/adulation. And that's ok too. A heavy favourite strolling to a title with little opposition is only interesting for fans of that player.
    Hopefully we can be spared your posts for the rest of the tournament so.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Hopefully we can be spared your posts for the rest of the tournament so.

    Sorry honey, I'm here to stay xxx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭NoviGlitzko


    walshb wrote: »
    No real urge to watch/tune in this year when a 36, almost 37 year old is the bookies favorite to lift the title, 15 years after his first win...great and all as he was, and seems, is!
    Federer doesn't dominate half as much on grass as Nadal does on clay and I didn't hear you complaining during the French. Rafa was a lock for it. Roger is slight favourite here but it's anything but a lock. Plus, the tour can actually excel on grass. Most of the top players ATM are better attackers than they are defenders.

    Having Theim as your main challenger tells me that the clay season was forgettable yet again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    AllForIt wrote: »
    This comment makes no logical sense to me on so many levels. Either you like Tennis or you don't. Why would one who does refrain from watching it for whatever reason?

    There seems to be a demographic of ppl who just watch sport sport sport when they have no real interest in the sport itself - just watching it on TV, an armchair enthusiast.

    What difference his age makes I've not the first clue. I would have though the fact he is so much older makes his participation in the tournament a point of interest i.e. someone being able to play better than anyone else at this age.

    You're reading too deep into it....

    Just not all that keen to tune in "this year."

    Part of every sports fan tunes in for some sort of wow and excitement and pizzazz. I don't see that this year at SW19....

    I have followed tennis for over 30 years. Not religiously, but fairly up on it....I suppose a new era would be welcomed. I just don't see that era, or those players to fill in for the last few greats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Federer doesn't dominate half as much on grass as Nadal does on clay and I didn't hear you complaining during the French. Rafa was a lock for it. Roger is slight favourite here but it's anything but a lock. Plus, the tour can actually excel on grass. Most of the top players ATM are better attackers than they are defenders.

    Having Theim as your main challenger tells me that the clay season was forgettable yet again.

    I didn't watch the FO this year.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    walshb wrote: »
    You're reading too deep into it....

    Just not all that keen to tune in "this year."

    Part of every sports fan tunes in for some sort of wow and excitement and pizzazz. I don't see that this year at SW19....

    I have followed tennis for over 30 years. Not religiously, but fairly up on it....I suppose a new era would be welcomed. I just don't see that era, or those players to fill in for the last few greats.

    Do you only watch mens tennis? I mean the womens singles has at least been very competitive this season with both completed slams featuring several memorable encounters. There's also the return of Serena to add spice to Wimbledon. Fair enough if its not your bag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Do you only watch mens tennis? I mean the womens singles has at least been very competitive this season with both completed slams featuring several memorable encounters. There's also the return of Serena to add spice to Wimbledon. Fair enough if its not your bag.

    Yes, I only intentionally watch men's tennis.

    I don't like the women's side at all, and haven't done for a while....

    I used to watch it a lot more back in the day. It's not as good in many ways. Like watching older tennis from the men's side years ago. Just slow....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Oasis1974 wrote: »
    Any female totty worth looking out for this year? Not well up on this sport but willing to watch it if there's some fine fillies prancing about. And don't say manky Monica or horrible Hingis because I know there out to pasture lol. I think?
    Katie Boulter...worth the google!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    walshb wrote: »
    Yes, I only intentionally watch men's tennis.

    I don't like the women's side at all, and haven't done for a while....

    I used to watch it a lot more back in the day. It's not as good in many ways. Like watching older tennis from the men's side years ago. Just slow....

    I dunno...I wouldnt see it as slow myself personally, or maybe its only slow purely in comparison with the mens. Some might not see that as a negative thing at all. Not that there arent power hitters on the womens side as well, I watched Jo Konta hitting 120mph serves earlier which is up there with the big hitters. Its never all about power for me anyway, grew up watching Navratilova and McEnroe and then the likes of Graf and Edberg after that. Graf is my favourite player of all time, just the kind of supreme stylist you rarely get anymore. Well there's Fed of course, but a dwindling pool after that on both sides of the mix if you ask me.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Kvitova out in the very first round with a bagel in the third. No excuses for that sh*t.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Kvitova out in the very first round with a bagel in the third. No excuses for that sh*t.

    Think you have to give some credit to her opponent in fairness. Simply blew her off court in that third set, playing some really smart tennis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,841 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    The screeching in the sharapova match is rediculous. Even more than usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    This screaming in women's tennis has gotten out of control. I don't know whether turn the volume off altogether or take a walk in the park on this lovely evening instead. Sharapova match I'm talking about. Think I'll take a walk in a park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,841 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    AllForIt wrote: »
    This screaming in women's tennis has gotten out of control. I don't know whether turn the volume off altogether or take a walk in the park on this lovely evening instead. Sharapova match I'm talking about. Think I'll take a walk in a park.

    Is it both players at it or just sharapova? It was rediculous. It was like they were screaming extra loud


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    "Feliciano Lopez is playing in his 66th consecutive Grand Slam tournament this year at Wimbledon. He breaks the record which was formerly held by Roger Federer, and is the first player (man or woman) in the history of Open Era to reach this milestone (singles)."

    That's cool, always enjoyed watching Lopez, especially on grass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Is it both players at it or just sharapova? It was rediculous. It was like they were screaming extra loud

    Oh both of them trying to out do each other at it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    Rob2D wrote: »
    Eugenie Bouchard playing tomorrow. Enjoy it while it lasts because she won't probably. Another Kournikova in the making that one.
    Bouchard is nowhere near the class of Kournikova. For all the criticism she faces for not winning single titles, for most of her career she rarely entered smaller events where she'd be the top seed, was ranked quite high, and very rarely lost to anyone ranked below her. Near the end, defeats to lower ranked players came, but not for most of her career. And she won a good few doubles titles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    Nobody remembers you for being good, only what you won. And outside of a few doubles titles that HINGIS won for her, Anna has nothing. Did she ever even break into the top 5?

    If you partnered me with Hingis I'd probably have won a few doubles titles as well :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Is it both players at it or just sharapova? It was rediculous. It was like they were screaming extra loud

    It's horrendous to listen to....

    I know the men grunt, but that is far more acceptable on the ears than that screeching sh1t. It should be banned.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    walshb wrote: »
    It's horrendous to listen to....

    I know the men grunt, but that is far more acceptable on the ears than that screeching sh1t. It should be banned.

    Have to be lenient with Sharapova.

    The incessant screaming might be a side effect of the banned substances.


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