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Mayo vs Kildare [What Mayo should do]

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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Will people stop quoting him now? Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,889 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    That's a good idea. It's Dublin's home ground isn't it? :confused:


    Supposedly so.;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    :D The Dubs really have a high opinion of themselves. They think they are the GAA!


    No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

    You have been asked several times what county you are from.

    I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


    Would I be correct now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭LandersDublin


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

    You have been asked several times what county you are from.

    I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


    Would I be correct now?

    Definitely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Brusna


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Which is simply a supply and demand issue, what happens with every event.

    that would never have been an issue if the GAA had just done the right thing to begin with.

    In my opinion they tried to do the right thing by accommodating the fans but that point seems to be lost on you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Brusna


    So every game now is right and wrong if full to capacity as people can't go due to capacity?

    What?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

    You have been asked several times what county you are from.

    I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


    Would I be correct now?

    No, they should be split!

    I represent the smaller counties!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    charlie14 wrote: »
    But is it ot a bit hypocritical to look after county season ticket holders iwhile at the same time club members who are the lifeblood of clubs have to scramble with people who may have never contributed anything towards the GAA for tickets.


    We have been told often enough by the powers that be, and I agree, that clubs are the lifeblood of the organisation, but when it comes to ticket allocation in situations like this then it just sounds very hollow.


    Btw, I have no problem with season ticket holders getting first dibs, I`m one myself, but I feel club members should at least get some recognition as well.

    It might well be (id argue club members and season ticket holders are often one and the same but I will go with your point for the sake of argument).
    The thing is, that this is the system that is in place for all other games bar the AI final. So if it is hypocritical then it is the same for everyone. And if you want to change that then you have to change them all or leave them all as they are.
    If other counties can go and buy them online or at supervalue or whatever, then disallowing mayo to do that for this game is discriminating against their fans. If they want to change it, then they have to split the tickets between the clubs for every game.

    Otherwise all that is happening is you are just changing the rules to stop one well supported team from bring their big support to an away game, and that is just biased...

    So unless they send 50% of rhe upcoming galway-dublin game down to the galway clubs, and 50% of the cavan-tyrone tickets to cavan etc etc, then it is 100% discrimination against the mayo fans


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭LandersDublin


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    No, they should be split!

    I represent the smaller counties!

    You represent nobody but your self behind an anonymous internet handle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,223 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

    You have been asked several times what county you are from.

    I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


    Would I be correct now?

    He is from a part of the Pale.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,132 ✭✭✭✭km79


    FuzzyFrog wrote: »
    In a spirit of GAA brotherhood Mayo should turn up and play at Conleth Park in Kildare and really show the GAA that they are out of touch with the people. Discuss

    I now firmly support this stance
    And in the spirit of the GAA brotherhood Kildare should then leave the pitch and award Mayo a walkover



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Definitely.

    Ew an d another poster may be on to something. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,287 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    You represent nobody but your self behind an anonymous internet handle.

    It’s people bothering to argue with him that has led him to believe he’s on a crusade. He’s destroying multiple threads because people keep responding to his nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭LandersDublin


    salmocab wrote: »
    It’s people bothering to argue with him that has led him to believe he’s on a crusade. He’s destroying multiple threads because people keep responding to his nonsense.

    His self importance is shocking. Im done with him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    :D The Dubs really have a high opinion of themselves. They think they are the GAA!


    No. But nor do we think we should be expelled like you do.

    You have been asked several times what county you are from.

    I would make shrewd guess it is one of those counties which allowed itself to be intimidated into abandoning the GAA by the Brits and the Catholic Church after Parnell, at a time when the Munster counties, Dublin, Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Louth and a few others kept it going.


    Would I be correct now?

    That would be County Belo Horizonte I presume you allude to😉


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    ArielAtom wrote: »
    That would be County Belo Horizonte I presume you allude to

    A great bunch of lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,889 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    If the GAA moved Dublin from Croke Park you could say goodbye to the commercial side of the GAA. Let this be known without Dublin and their huge numbers, the GAA as we know it would not be viable. Figures wise, Dublin are huge to GAA, Like McGregor to the UFC, Man Utd to Football.


    Croke Park was not just built with Dublin GAA money and the last time I checked it was still the GAA national stadium, not the property of Dublin GAA.


    If your arguement is based soley on commercial reasons then lets talk about that and all it would entail down the road.

    To just throw it in here as a reason for Dublin using Croke Park as their home pitch in the context being discussed is disingenuous imho.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭LandersDublin


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    A great bunch of lads.

    If he is anything to go by, I refute your suggestion of Great lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,132 ✭✭✭✭km79


    I think it’s fair to say if the match delivers as much entertainment as this thread we are in for a treat


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    If he is anything to go by, I refute your suggestion of Great lads.

    The natives are a great bunch of lads.

    Blow-ins from Kildare?

    Not so much. :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭LandersDublin


    charlie14 wrote: »
    Croke Park was not just built with Dublin GAA money and the last time I checked it was still the GAA national stadium, not the property of Dublin GAA.


    If your arguement is based soley on commercial reasons then lets talk about that and all it would entail down the road.

    To just throw it in here as a reason for Dublin using Croke Park as their home pitch in the context being discussed is disingenuous imho.

    When have I ever said that Croke park is a Dublin stadia. What I stated by taking Dublin to smaller venues, which will dwindle fans numbers, resulting in loss of money that could of been made in Croker.
    Spending in stadia facilities, Museum. Do you realise the money taken in by the GAA on match day in Croke park.


  • Registered Users Posts: 333 ✭✭jj72


    Ah here we go, Rubbishhhhhh

    Sorry if that's rubbish then your point about the latest Dublin team having huge numbers following them doesn't make sense?? Either you have bigger numbers now or you don't? If anyone's spouting rubbish lad its yourself


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,886 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Actually the system is used specifically to allow neutral games to be played as not to bias a group of four in anyone's favour, i.e. no team getting 2 home games while another gets 1. That is the whole point of the system. These neutral games then happened to be placed in croke park, for obvious reasons. But they are still neutral games and this case would now suggest that dublin should play a game in a game down the country. Corks new stadium would be a good option

    Sorry but you are completely wrong. It makes perfect sense to launch the series with huge high profile games over a weekend at CP, this was always the intention right from the start. Not one county that i have heard of objects to this


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Sorry but you are completely wrong. It makes perfect sense to launch the series with huge high profile games over a weekend at CP, this was always the intention right from the start. Not one county that i have heard of objects to this

    It does, that is why they decided to put the neutral games there...

    However, when one game would result in it not being a neutral venue any more, obviously this development with kildare would suggest that this is not in line with what the gaa are going to be doing going forward.

    You seem to think that it is mutually exclusive - ie either the games are neutral or they are in croke park. The reality is they are in croke park because it is the best neutral venue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,889 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    When have I ever said that Croke park is a Dublin stadia. What I stated by taking Dublin to smaller venues, which will dwindle fans numbers, resulting in loss of money that could of been made in Croker.
    Spending in stadia facilities, Museum. Do you realise the money taken in by the GAA on match day in Croke park.


    With the number of games involving Dublin that have been switched to Croke Park it would not surprise me that many now believe Dublin`s county pitch is Croke Park rather than Parnell Park.


    Are you not arguing a point on commercialism in favour of Croke Park and its environment while ignoring the commercial loss to other venues when games are moved.

    Are sponsors of other county teams not entitled to feel they are as entitled to a share of the spending around big match days rather than have it all sucked into Dublin by a venue change ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,889 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    It does, that is why they decided to put the neutral games there...

    However, when one game would result in it not being a neutral venue any more, obviously this development with kildare would suggest that this is not in line with what the gaa are going to be doing going forward.

    You seem to think that it is mutually exclusive - ie either the games are neutral or they are in croke park. The reality is they are in croke park because it is the best neutral venue.


    Sorry but I fail to see how Croke Park can be looked upon as a neutral venue for Dublin when they are playing as many if not more games in it both league and championship than they are in their county pitch, Parnell Park.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,600 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Great to see the GAA finally came to their senses and are having the game where it should have been in the first place at St Conleth's Park Newbridge, Co.Kildare.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    No, they should be split!

    I represent the smaller counties!


    In your own mind perhaps. I can't think of one single other poster on this forum that I don't know what county they are from!

    Why? Is it that bad?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    charlie14 wrote: »
    Sorry but I fail to see how Croke Park can be looked upon as a neutral venue for Dublin when they are playing as many if not more games in it both league and championship than they are in their county pitch, Parnell Park.

    This is my argument - one of their two games should go to a neutral venue like tipperary or cork


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    This is my argument - one of their two games should go to a neutral venue like tipperary or cork

    Glad to see you back as it is good excuse to distract me from what I ought to be doing! And you are interesting, a bit like Brick in The Middle.

    But Jesus man, you are obsessed. Not only did the mess over the Mayo/Kildare not have anything to do with Mayo., but it certainly had nothing whatsoever to do with Dublin :)


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