Dart drivers fear for lives as 'bandits' attack trains

DevLit

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/dart-drivers-fear-for-lives-as-bandits-attack-trains-37037113.html

Dart drivers are fearing for their lives north of Connolly Station. I have to say, I've never experienced major anti social behaviour.

I use Clongriffin everyday. Yea it's not the prettiest, and the incident last month doesn't help its reputation. But the reason it's safe is because of the number of people using it.

theyoungchap

We need dedicated transport police, every other country has them. It would cut out anti social behaviour on everything from buses, trains, etc.
I can't help feeling that the lack of punishment from Lidl Jobstown has shown a whole cohort of people that there is no punishment for anything and that anything goes in modern Ireland.
It is time to change that. I dont mind if the Gardai need to become more heavy handed to do so.

ixoy

Never seen any bother at Killester in eight years of using it. Same with Sutton. If it's a problem with certain stations, skip those rather than cut out half the line.
The Malahide issue is nothing to do with Northside people as it was from people across the city just going home.

weldoninhio

Call my a cynic, but I bet a pay raise would immediately allay these fears.

Pretzill

That part about the gang holding the carriage hostage sounds scary as... I was on the Sligo train and it was hit by a rock it bounced just beside where I was leaning into the window thankfully it didn't smash through but gave me a jump.

Yes a dedicated transport police sounds necessary it's a pity society is dropping to meet the lowest common denomintor.

DevLit

ixoy wrote: »

Never seen any bother at Killester in eight years of using it. Same with Sutton. If it's a problem with certain stations, skip those rather than cut out half the line.
The Malahide issue is nothing to do with Northside people as it was from people across the city just going home.

Yea most stations are perfect, the majority of the time. There's just normal people using the service to go about their day. There is no need to stop the service, because of a small minority of people.

Ray Bloody Purchase

Dart drivers afraid of work?? Oh sorry, afraid for their lives????

Poor souls.

Lord Glentoran

I’ve got an idea. Those graffiti crackheads at Clongriffin? Give ‘em a Fresh and Dry with their own spray paint.


On their balls.

dazberry

Back in the 80s it was Kilbarrack. They had to enclose the bridge with mesh to stop scotes dropping concrete bricks on the train. Wonder how it ranks these days?

AnneFrank

weldoninhio wrote: »

Call my a cynic, but I bet a pay raise would immediately allay these fears.

you cynic

StreetLight

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Dart drivers afraid of work?? Oh sorry, afraid for their lives????

Poor souls.

Pop quiz.
Let's say you're at your office desk and someone threw a brick at you.
What do you do?

neris

StreetLight wrote: »

Pop quiz.
Let's say you're at your office desk and someone threw a brick at you.
What do you do?

throw it back

Zebra3

StreetLight wrote: »

Pop quiz.
Let's say you're at your office desk and someone threw a brick at you.
What do you do?

Refuse to go to the office until there’s a dedicated office police.

StreetLight

neris wrote: »

throw it back

Exactly. So how does one throw it back if it's a train in motion?

StreetLight

Zebra3 wrote: »

Refuse to go to the office until there’s a dedicated office police.

A.K.A. proper security.

Dravokivich

weldoninhio wrote: »

Call my a cynic, but I bet a pay raise would immediately allay these fears.

The NBRU are actually pushing for transport police behind this.

end of the road

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Dart drivers afraid of work??

no, considering they work perfectly well each day.

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Oh sorry, afraid for their lives????

correct, by the sounds of it there have been huge issues with anti-social behaviour on parts of the network at parts of the day. some of which it seems have been serious enough for drivers to feel their lives may be in danger.

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Poor souls.

yes, indeed. hopefully the problem can be sorted out so that they can do their job safely and the users can go about their business without the dregs of society causing issues.

Hilly Bill

Fully with them on this one.

Management don't give a fiddlers about staff safety if it means they save a few quid.

Infini

DevLit wrote: »

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/dart-drivers-fear-for-lives-as-bandits-attack-trains-37037113.html

Dart drivers are fearing for their lives north of Connolly Station. I have to say, I've never experienced major anti social behaviour.

I use Clongriffin everyday. Yea it's not the prettiest, and the incident last month doesn't help its reputation. But the reason it's safe is because of the number of people using it.

There a reason Howth Jct is better known as Junkie Junction. The level of antisocial crap out that was has gotten worse over the years expecally after the demanning of several stations so I honestly dont blame the driver's in the slightest for at least trying to get some real control of the area reestablished.

Realistically we need proper Transport Police at least in the Dublin area the amount of carry on from these bolloxes needs to stop once and for all.

wexie

StreetLight wrote: »

Exactly. So how does one throw it back if it's a train in motion?

Maybe I'm missing something but how does anyone think that transport police would stop it from being thrown at the train in the first place?

They're likely to be either on the train or in the station?

Having said that stopping antisocial behaviour on the trains and in the station would be a pretty good start...

Hilly Bill

They need to be constantly moved on. Don't give them any breathing space.

lawred2

take it every day in and out to work and apart from the occasional junkie sucking on solvents or the odd lad chancing a smoke I haven't seen major anti social carry on

but at the same time I wouldn't doubt it

Samuel T. Cogley

dazberry wrote: »

Back in the 80s it was Kilbarrack. They had to enclose the bridge with mesh to stop scotes dropping concrete bricks on the train. Wonder how it ranks these days?

Living feet from it, never any bother. Many DART stations are used by teenagers to hang around for some unknown reason but even that doesn't happen very often. Most intimidating thing that ever happened to me was they were sitting blocking the barrier to get in, I said "Excuse me please" cue a stunned looking lad who said "sorry" and immediately got down and moved out of the way.

Used to be quite a friendly little station with people always chatting to the station-master, but they got rid of him to the disappointment of the locals.

theyoungchap

lawred2 wrote: »

take it every day in and out to work and apart from the occasional junkie sucking on solvents or the odd lad chancing a smoke I haven't seen major anti social carry on

but at the same time I wouldn't doubt it

Social welfare office isn't open that early

Samuel T. Cogley

Looks like a group did cause some issue at Kilbarrack, got on at Harmonstown so it's unclear where exactly they were from although obviously local to the greater Raheny area. It's certainly a rare enough occurrence. As for 'fires at the station' they're talking about two recent fires well back from the station where idiots decided to burn rubbish, no vandalism involved, in fact the opposite on the last occasion they cleared the area and set it alight as no one had picked it up after leaflets were put through the door promising a collection.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Here’s the thing. You won’t see too much problems at rush hour. It’s too crowded. And middle aged people are invisible.

Last week or so a group of Italian teenagers were terrorised.

Issues on the route are often at weekends. Particularly to howth.

Samuel T. Cogley

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Here’s the thing. You won’t see too much problems at rush hour. It’s too crowded. And middle aged people are invisible.

Last week or so a group of Italian teenagers were terrorised.

Issues on the route are often at weekends. Particularly to howth.

Why to Howth I wonder? After Howth Junction it's pretty much middle-class areas all the way to Howth.

Del.Monte

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Fully with them on this one.

Management don't give a fiddlers about staff safety if it means they save a few quid.

And here was me thinking you were a company man! At last we agree on something.

super_furry

It's beyond time we had a proper transport police service in this country.

Hilly Bill

Del.Monte wrote: »

And here was me thinking you were a company man! At last we agree on something.

Like i said before, lot of assumptions on here.

Mongfinder General

I like to combine the best of Ceaucescu’s Securitat with Argentina’s military and let them loose on our public transport.

It is fast approaching the point where most of us living in this country would rather a functioning police state than put up with the ****e going on here on a daily basis

StereoSound

If I was on the train I would confront them with their big stick and see how far they want to go. Do a few lads not see what's going on and get up and do something? Maybe I'm being too assuming here and thinking these are just skool kids thinking their the fckn man? Or are they crack heads or gang members who would actually hurt you?

Zebra3

Mongfinder General wrote: »

I like to combine the best of Ceaucescu’s Securitat with Argentina’s military and let them loose on our public transport.

It is fast approaching the point where most of us living in this country would rather a functioning police state than put up with the ****e going on here on a daily basis

No, it’s not.

Creative83

Was on the Dart after 7 this evening and they had loads of security at Harmonstown & Killbarrick... the guys hopped on the train also between the stops. They have good security now but how long IR will keep it up is the question

Infini

Mongfinder General wrote: »

I like to combine the best of Ceaucescu’s Securitat with Argentina’s military and let them loose on our public transport.

It is fast approaching the point where most of us living in this country would rather a functioning police state than put up with the ****e going on here on a daily basis

We dont need a police state. All we need is just a proper crackdown on these vermin that are causing the trouble and proper prosecution of them.

Working class heroes

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Why to Howth I wonder? After Howth Junction it's pretty much middle-class areas all the way to Howth.

The middle class can be junkies too you know. Just more socially acceptable

Hilly Bill

Creative83 wrote: »

Was on the Dart after 7 this evening and they had loads of security at Harmonstown & Killbarrick... the guys hopped on the train also between the stops. They have good security now but how long IR will keep it up is the question

I'd say for the summer until it gets too expensive.

HandsomeBob

dazberry wrote: »

Back in the 80s it was Kilbarrack. They had to enclose the bridge with mesh to stop scotes dropping concrete bricks on the train. Wonder how it ranks these days?

Pretty good actually. Get on and off there every day and it's rare that I see an issue but I've no doubt that anti social behaviour is a problem on the DART. Just don't be laying it at Kilbarrack's feet and demand the station is closed or skipped.

thomasj

On a seperate note, the local GAA club in kilbarrack had a container with their equipment set on fire a few days ago. Destroyed a fair chunk of the club's equipment.

lawred2

thomasj wrote: »

On a seperate note, the local GAA club in kilbarrack had a container with their equipment set on fire 2 days ago. Destroyed a fair chunk of the club's equipment.

That's depressing... These nomarks are so empty as to even destroy the few good things their locality might enjoy.

Most of that will have been paid for by contributions from those local to these anti social worthless pieces of sh!t.

Must be absolutely soul destroying.

But sure the state will keep supporting them in their endeavors.

thomasj

I completely agree, there's no hope for these people.

The good news out of this was that a gofundme page setup made thousands for the club.

Who's to say though that these people won't do it again?

Samuel T. Cogley

GAA club gets an inordinate amount of vandalism for some strange reason, it's heavily localised to that area and the DART station, which doesn't see many issues is just around the corner. I do wonder if there is more too it than mindless vandalism.

thomasj

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/dublin-gaa-club-overwhelmed-with-support-in-wake-of-fire-that-destroyed-equipment-37035004.html

Samuel T. Cogley

Ah so it wasn't at Kilbarrack FC. That's good to hear as they've had a couple of incidents.

Zebra3

lawred2 wrote: »

That's depressing... These nomarks are so empty as to even destroy the few good things their locality might enjoy.

Most of that will have been paid for by contributions from those local to these anti social worthless pieces of sh!t.

Must be absolutely soul destroying.

But sure the state will keep supporting them in their endeavors.

You have no idea whether or not the perpetrators are employed or on social welfare, so why claim to?

lawred2

Zebra3 wrote: »

You have no idea whether or not the perpetrators are employed or on social welfare, so why claim to?

Lol

Atlantic Dawn

thomasj wrote: »

On a seperate note, the local GAA club in kilbarrack had a container with their equipment set on fire a few days ago. Destroyed a fair chunk of the club's equipment.

When they track down who caused this the houses these people live in should be levelled, would result in better parental control.

testicles

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Atlantic Dawn

testicles wrote: »

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Only way some idiots will take responsibility for their offspring, I'd say 10 houses levelled would spread the word enough.

end of the road

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

When they track down who caused this the houses these people live in should be levelled, would result in better parental control.

that would be a breach of international law, so never going to happen.

Atlantic Dawn

end of the road wrote: »

that would be a breach of international law, so never going to happen.

Israel do it all the time.