Irish National Championships - Sligo

marvin80

I'm thinking of going along to watch this in a few weeks - are the roads closed for the route/laps or is it similar to the Rás (rolling)?

http://irishcyclingchamps.info/

1bryan

marvin80 wrote: »

I'm thinking of going along to watch this in a few weeks - are the roads closed for the route/laps or is it similar to the Rás (rolling)?

http://irishcyclingchamps.info/

probably rolling. It was in Wexford last year anyway. The lap passes and it'll be 20-30 mins before it comes around again so no need to have a completely closed road.

ednwireland

Always been rolling road closures when I've been before. And as its close will probably be watching

Derrydingle

Was thinking about this myself any good hills on the route for a good viewing point?

Thud

only one real hill
http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/fullscreen/2050341313/


https://www.strava.com/segments/639607

marvin80

Derrydingle wrote: »

Was thinking about this myself any good hills on the route for a good viewing point?

This is the route:

https://www.strava.com/segments/17977907

The only hill as such is Hungry Rock, starts around here: https://bit.ly/2thWIN7

Finnrocco

That hill looks grand - says he from the comfort of his armchair, beer in one hand and pizza in the other. Should get up that no bother!

Takca

Does it normally attract a big crowd?

1bryan

Takca wrote: »

Does it normally attract a big crowd?

nope. A couple of the more interesting spots might have a few people on them, as might the finish line, but generally the crowds are very small.

The best ever was in Kilcullen a couple of years back when the race clashed with the Ireland-France match in the Euros. I remember it just being me and a kid who was stewarding on the long stretch of road we were on. The place was deserted.

ednwireland

Finnrocco wrote: »

That hill looks grand - says he from the comfort of his armchair, beer in one hand and pizza in the other. Should get up that no bother!

always found it tough climb on the tour of sligo

Derrydingle

Any of the pro names confirmed yet?

wirelessdude01

Derrydingle wrote:

Any of the pro names confirmed yet?

Based on the Eire Og FB account I would imagine the SammyB is a certainty. Also would think Ryan Mullen as he won't be at the Tour.

Derrydingle

wirelessdude01 wrote:

Based on the Eire Og FB account I would imagine the SammyB is a certainty. Also would think Ryan Mullen as he won't be at the Tour.

Think sam has his eye on it this year i remember a interview a few weeks ago saying he would love to wear the jersey next season

ednwireland

Phillip deignan is allegedly around as well so maybethere

godtabh

Roche is in town as per the Orwell twitter account

marvin80

A few of the Aqua lads as well like Dunne and Dunbar afaik

wirelessdude01

ednwireland wrote:

Phillip deignan is allegedly around as well so maybethere

Well he certainly won't be doing anything worthwhile for Sky.

Thud

http://www.stickybottle.com/races-results/irelands-big-name-pro-men-set-national-road-champs-battle/
one of strongest line ups in years.
Dan the only one missing.

MPFGLB

Aquablue have the numbers but if Bennett has kept his form he will be the one to beat

TheBlaaMan

It's time for Sam. I hope he has the legs and the craft to win.

I'm sure he would represent the jersey so very well in the coming year.

1bryan

MPFGLB wrote: »

Aquablue have the numbers but if Bennett has kept his form he will be the one to beat

he was well up there last year too, til he had a mechanical on the final lap. Such bad luck. You'd expect Mullen will try and ride them all off the wheels again. That will have to be his tactic. It's worked for him twice before and it wouldn't be any surprise if he did it again.

Would love Sam to win. The erratic, on-your-own, nature of the race won't suit him though.

Will be interesting to see how Eddie Dunbar does. He rode last year's race with zero support, either in the race or outside it. I overheard him saying he rode the whole thing on just 2 bottles cos he'd no one on the side of the road to give him anything. He'll hardly win it but I wouldn't be surprised to see him podium.

marvin80

1bryan wrote: »

Will be interesting to see how Eddie Dunbar does. He rode last year's race with zero support, either in the race or outside it.

Curious to know how will it work for Dunbar and the Aqua lads - will they have some Aqua personnel helping them on the day - handing out bottles on the road etc.?

1bryan

marvin80 wrote: »

Curious to know how will it work for Dunbar and the Aqua lads - will they have some Aqua personnel helping them on the day - handing out bottles on the road etc.?

Isn't that domestic AquaBlue team still on the go too? There must have been 10 riders or more last year between the domestic squad and the pro-conti lads.

When is the start list out I wonder. Kinda curious to see who will/won't turn up. I'd expect we won't see Dan ride the nationals ever again. Will Brammier bother?

What's Chris McGlinchey up to? Haven't heard his name much since his incredible ride last year.

There'll surely be a gang of the Holdsworths back over to ride, in lieu of the Sean Kelly team.

Another rider I'm curious to see is the younger of the Roches. He's been in Ireland for the last couple of weeks training and has been putting in storming rides in some domestic races. He would have been well in contention last year but for a crash early on.

It's either been a very low-key build-up this year, or else I'm not looking in the right place.

Taxuser1

1bryan wrote: »

Isn't that domestic AquaBlue team still on the go too? There must have been 10 riders or more last year between the domestic squad and the pro-conti lads.

When is the start list out I wonder. Kinda curious to see who will/won't turn up. I'd expect we won't see Dan ride the nationals ever again. Will Brammier bother?

What's Chris McGlinchey up to? Haven't heard his name much since his incredible ride last year.

There'll surely be a gang of the Holdsworths back over to ride, in lieu of the Sean Kelly team.

Another rider I'm curious to see is the younger of the Roches. He's been in Ireland for the last couple of weeks training and has been putting in storming rides in some domestic races. He would have been well in contention last year but for a crash early on.

It's either been a very low-key build-up this year, or else I'm not looking in the right place.

The Aqua blue domestic lads were taken on by Viner Caremark - good team but probably a level below what's needed for a medal here.

Saw McGlinchey in the results lately - think he went travelling to Aus and is back now. Only 3 Holdsworth lads, Shaw probably the best chance of a medal again, he's strong as a bull.

Young lad Roche is ok, no world beater, is just about the level of the lads domestically here at A1, but a few years needed.

should be a cracker of a race, what it lacks in numbers, it will have serious depth in talent. I'd say the World Tour pros will kill the race early and wouldn't at all be surprised if Nico Roche won handily again.

1bryan

Taxuser1 wrote: »

The Aqua blue domestic lads were taken on by Viner Caremark - good team but probably a level below what's needed for a medal here.

Saw McGlinchey in the results lately - think he went travelling to Aus and is back now. Only 3 Holdsworth lads, Shaw probably the best chance of a medal again, he's strong as a bull.

Young lad Roche is ok, no world beater, is just about the level of the lads domestically here at A1, but a few years needed.

should be a cracker of a race, what it lacks in numbers, it will have serious depth in talent. I'd say the World Tour pros will kill the race early and wouldn't at all be surprised if Nico Roche won handily again.

How's his form though? He dropped out of the giro with fatigue. Even if he's recovered, he hasn't raced in so long. In saying that, if he can respond to whatever early action takes place and is still in the reckoning towards the latter part of the race, his experience could well see him win it (though I doubt there's a handy win there for anyone this year).

marvin80

1bryan wrote: »

When is the start list out I wonder. Kinda curious to see who will/won't turn up. I'd expect we won't see Dan ride the nationals ever again. Will Brammier bother?

http://www.stickybottle.com/races-results/irelands-big-name-pro-men-set-national-road-champs-battle/

circler

Brammeier just announced his retirement, so I guess that's him out.

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Hard to see past the Lydia's for the women's, Lydia B just won the Omnium and the Stephen Roche without extending herself, Lydia G flying placing in Paris third in the scratch in an international field. Oooh!
Also I guess Josie Knight will be back, I don't know what form she's in. The former Talent Transfer women (Mia is a serious talent) will be there too I imagine. Eve McCrystal is a tank, she'll be up there for sure barring all incident.

Hopefully no repeat of what happened the women's race last year.

elchupanebrey

Deleted User wrote: »

Hopefully no repeat of what happened the women's race last year.

Moved to the saturday with the juniors so hopefully they can be ran at separate times.

Untitled Folder

Anyone know what time the u23 TT is expected to start on Thursday? We have a lad hoping to do it and would love to get off work to go over to support him.

1bryan

elchupanebrey wrote: »

Moved to the saturday with the juniors so hopefully they can be ran at separate times.

hmm, not good. Very disrespectful to the elite women.

1bryan

circler wrote: »

Brammeier just announced his retirement, so I guess that's him out.

his retirement from cycling and his retirement from being Irish.

68 lost souls

Sad to see the Hillary Hughes biked stolen as she was set ot travel to nationals the other day. Broke into her garage, ripped the controls off the wall, smashed her car rear windscreen to get into the car and take the bike that was inside ready to go.

Please share this in the hope that maybe someone might spot my stolen bike

Between midnight and 7am this morning in Milltown Dublin my garage was broken into and back window of my car smashed in. Out of it was taken this Scott Foil 2013 Team Issue bike (black, white and green), with Fast Forward carbon deep section wheels, a wahoo bike computer and a stages power meter.

I had my car packed to hit the road early and head west for the national championships this week. A very unfortunate thing to happen so soon before champs or ever

- please keep your eyes peeled and if you can share this post I would really appreciate it, the guards said the more it is shared on social media the better the chance of getting the bike back,

Thank you

marvin80

Untitled Folder wrote: »

Anyone know what time the u23 TT is expected to start on Thursday? We have a lad hoping to do it and would love to get off work to go over to support him.

Keep an eye on Eir Og facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Eire-Og-CyclingClub-1609779649269779/

From the website:

http://irishcyclingchamps.info/

Schedule

Time Trial: June 28th

Para Riders & Junior Ladies 1 Lap

All other riders 2 Laps

Sign on opens: 11:00

Sign on closes:

First rider off: 13:31

Mos Eisley

I am thinking of bringing my young lad to the nationals on Sunday. Where would be the best viewing point? Would somewhere on the climb would be a good spot assuming it will be accessible to cars?

Thanks

Taxuser1

Deleted User wrote: »

Hopefully no repeat of what happened the women's race last year.

i think there is always the threat of this issue reoccurring if the women's race isn't run separately to the men's, hopefully not if put off with Juniors. As the nationals course has to be around/under 16km an average speeds by the men 10kms per hour quicker than the ladies may have them caught within their race time of around 2-2.5 hours. even in ras na mban full of internationals, the average speeds for the flatter stages was under 37 kmph, in the men's nationals last year, first 2 hours in the peloton was just under 44 kmph on a lumpy circuit.

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Taxuser1 wrote: »

i think there is always the threat of this issue reoccurring if the women's race isn't run separately to the men's, hopefully not if put off with Juniors. As the nationals course has to be around/under 16km an average speeds by the men 10kms per hour quicker than the ladies may have them caught within their race time of around 2-2.5 hours. even in ras na mban full of internationals, the average speeds for the flatter stages was under 37 kmph, in the men's nationals last year, first 2 hours in the peloton was just under 44 kmph on a lumpy circuit.

Does the nationals course have to have a max distance? A bigger loop and better timing would solve the problem.

Thud

1bryan wrote: »

How's his form though? He dropped out of the giro with fatigue. Even if he's recovered, he hasn't raced in so long. In saying that, if he can respond to whatever early action takes place and is still in the reckoning towards the latter part of the race, his experience could well see him win it (though I doubt there's a handy win there for anyone this year).

Nico not in BMC Tour team

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/bmc-racing-announce-riders-will-help-richie-porte-try-win-tour-de-france-384278

Was that in his plans or was he aiming for Vuelta?

godtabh

Thud wrote: »

Nico not in BMC Tour team

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/bmc-racing-announce-riders-will-help-richie-porte-try-win-tour-de-france-384278

Was that in his plans or was he aiming for Vuelta?

I think that was always on the cards after the Giro start. I think I remember that he said it was a later call up to the Giro and his plans would then shift to the Vuelta after that.

Taxuser1

well he just did this on the Poggio

https://www.strava.com/activities/1665430749/segments/41745115615

bang in form if you ask me! that's a difficult uphill climb.

Paul_Mc1988

800watts for over a minute....ouch

ednwireland

Mos Eisley wrote: »

I am thinking of bringing my young lad to the nationals on Sunday. Where would be the best viewing point? Would somewhere on the climb would be a good spot assuming it will be accessible to cars?

Thanks

there is a car park and a pull in at the top of hungry rock (called hawks rock on google unless i have my bearings completely wrong.)
https://www.google.com/maps/search/hungry+rock+sligo/@54.1943798,-8.5842274,1136m/data=!3m1!1e3

Takca

ednwireland wrote: »

there is a car park and a pull in at the top of hungry rock (called hawks rock on google unless i have my bearings completely wrong.)
https://www.google.com/maps/search/hungry+rock+sligo/@54.1943798,-8.5842274,1136m/data=!3m1!1e3

Thats the carpark alright, it isn't very big so you may want to be early incase others have the same idea

MPFGLB

Taxuser1 wrote: »

well he just did this on the Poggio

https://www.strava.com/activities/1665430749/segments/41745115615

bang in form if you ask me! that's a difficult uphill climb.

Nico over trained for the Giro and was cocked from the off and then with personal issues added to the mix had to retire after 2 weeks racing exhausted


Its a pity but he has been caught from overtraining before in the past but the good thing is he usually comes back stronger after a rest

But he was never up to ride the Tour this year . Hopefully he can have form for the Vuelta and gets to ride that GT as the course really suit him this year

neris

Good interview with Sam Bennett about the nationals on this weeks Cycling Podcast

circler

TT

Elite Women:

1. Kelly Murphy
2. Eileen Burns
3. Eve McCrystal

Elite Men:

1. Ryan Mullen
2. Marcus Christie
3. Paul Kennedy

Source: https://twitter.com/IreCyclingFed/status/1012376057872297984

circler

https://twitter.com/IreCyclingFed/status/1012383098368032768

There doesn't appear to be an official Twitter account for this years nats

Farloo

What's the name of podcast?

Farloo

Farloo wrote: »

What's the name of podcast?

https://thecyclingpodcast.com/podcast/a-pre-tour-de-france-ramble-part-one-episode-22

ednwireland

I hope i have this right but the start/sign on is in collooney and the finish is in coolaney just in case anyone doesnt realise !