New Restaurant quarter for Swords Pavilions

Asdfghjkl987

Noticed this in the Irish Times today: https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/milano-and-us-burger-chain-to-set-up-in-new-swords-pavilions-quarter-1.3526796 nice addition to the centre I suppose. Will take some of the strain off Nando’s for sure.

Dizzyblonde

I heard it was in the pipeline. The centre needs more places to eat, and Five Guys opening is a real bonus.

Asdfghjkl987

Dizzyblonde wrote: »

I heard it was in the pipeline. The centre needs more places to eat, and Five Guys opening is a real bonus.

Yes I remember seeing something about it a number of years ago. Great to see Five Guys going in, love the one in DD

lawred2

Delighted to hear about Milanos.

T-Maxx

Where exactly is this extension going?

Asdfghjkl987

T-Maxx wrote: »

Where exactly is this extension going?

I gather it’s more of a building modification than extension. From what I know the Milano will be located in the dead cinema space above where tiger used to be. A link bridge will be constructed from the side of Zara that stretches to the cinema area. Five Guys will be located in the upstairs of where JD sports is now. JD will relocate to where tiger was. https://ibb.co/ctFz4d

ongarboy

Great news! We tried to go to Rubys in Pavillions on a Sunday afternoon around 5pm a couple of weeks ago and was told there'd be a one hour wait. We left and went across to Wright's instead which was also packed so more eating options are welcome. Considering Swords has a population of 40000, it has been underserved by restaurants.

Asdfghjkl987

Can’t seem to find any artists impression of this apart from the Milanos one. Tried the planning application but there’s none.

ThunbergsAreGo

lawred2 wrote: »

Delighted to hear about Milanos.

I would welcome anything but Milanos, bland boring food

lawred2

naughtb4 wrote: »

I would welcome anything but Milanos, bland boring food

ok

ThunbergsAreGo

lawred2 wrote: »

ok

life is about opinions isn't it

I find Milanos is an easy (bland) middle ground and often comes up when the "where will we eat" conversation occurs

lawred2

naughtb4 wrote: »

life is about opinions isn't it

I find Milanos is an easy (bland) middle ground and often comes up when the "where will we eat" conversation occurs

ok

I'm not sure what you expect me to say. I don't really care what your thoughts are on Milanos. Go or don't go - all the same to me. The Pavillions is terrible when it comes to dining options so an alternative to Nandos is to be welcomed.

If anything I would have thought another burger place added little to the array of options but ye know... it's Milanos that upsets you..

Out of interest - which franchise would you have liked in its stead?

ThunbergsAreGo

Overreacting a little?

Anything to be honest, ideally not a franchise but that's unlikely

I do agree the current options are sparse

Squeaksoutloud

Better off taking a stroll down the town and going to likes of J2 Japanese, pomodorino, sagamatha and Grill House. All been excellent last time I was in... Grill House in particular which is lebanese/Med. Find the pavilions options too busy and average.

jester1980

Squeaksoutloud wrote: »

Better off taking a stroll down the town and going to likes of J2 Japanese, pomodorino, sagamatha and Grill House. All been excellent last time I was in... Grill House in particular which is lebanese/Med. Find the pavilions options too busy and average.

actually going for dinner on wed and have never heard of grill house, might give this a look thanks

Homer

Have been to the grill house twice and really enjoyed it both times. Just reminded me we need to go back!

Do note that its BYOB in case you didn't know and arrive empty handed hoping for some alcohol with your dinner!

Asdfghjkl987

Really hope they come up with a better solution for the glass roof covering that part of the centre. Sitting in Costa on a hot day is like sitting in a green house and is very uncomfortable. I would imagine milanos would be affected by this heat even more as it’s higher up and directly under the roof.

Dizzyblonde

Asdfghjkl987 wrote: »

Really hope they come up with a better solution for the glass roof covering that part of the centre. Sitting in Costa on a hot day is like sitting in a green house and is very uncomfortable. I would imagine milanos would be affected by this heat even more as it’s higher up and directly under the roof.

That section of the centre is very hot and uncomfortable in the summer, but not a patch on Blanchardstown where you could literally pass out from the heat on the upper level. They all need to ramp up the air conditioning.

cbreeze

A new place opened in Swords Main Street four days ago - Tara Cafe, down near the Swords Castle end of the street. Italian (pizza, pasta). Comfortable seating - booths and normal tables, white table clothes. Reasonable prices.

I only dropped in for a coffee and had a look at the menu and wine list - reasonable house wine under 19 e, also available in carafe and smaller, half bottles available in the other wines as well. Big jugs of squash for only €2! Regretted I had lunch elsewhere otherwise I would love to have tried it.

Dizzyblonde

cbreeze wrote: »

A new place opened in Swords Main Street four days ago - Tara Cafe, down near the Swords Castle end of the street. Italian (pizza, pasta). Comfortable seating - booths and normal tables, white table clothes. Reasonable prices.

I only dropped in for a coffee and had a look at the menu and wine list - reasonable house wine under 19 e, also available in carafe and smaller, half bottles available in the other wines as well. Big jugs of squash for only €2! Regretted I had lunch elsewhere otherwise I would love to have tried it.

I've seen it but would never have know it was Italian! Sounds great - I like Pomodorino but I think it's overpriced.

Inquitus

Dizzyblonde wrote: »

I've seen it but would never have know it was Italian! Sounds great - I like Pomodorino but I think it's overpriced.

Aye Pomodorino is pricey, only thing I have against it, tis hard to get out of there cheaply even if only eating a starter and a pizza with a couple of glasses of wine.

cbreeze

Inquitus wrote: »

Aye Pomodorino is pricey, only thing I have against it, tis hard to get out of there cheaply even if only eating a starter and a pizza with a couple of glasses of wine.

lay off the starter and pizza and you should be ok

carltonleon

Dizzyblonde wrote: »

I've seen it but would never have know it was Italian! Sounds great - I like Pomodorino but I think it's overpriced.

Completely agree, lovely food but very pricey. I had one of the special Pizzas of the day and it was €17.50 for a 10 inch pizza which is way overpriced. For a 12 inch I would have said that was ok but not for a 10inch.

sdanseo

Reading Kylemore's objection (and subsequent ABP appeal - a complete abuse of the planning process) is almost comical. They can't even spell. Overpriced, horrible and outdated, it'll do them good to have some competition.

The floor plans are extremely hard to visualise however.

Planning ref. is :F16A/0107

Dord

cbreeze wrote: »

A new place opened in Swords Main Street four days ago - Tara Cafe, down near the Swords Castle end of the street. Italian (pizza, pasta). Comfortable seating - booths and normal tables, white table clothes. Reasonable prices.

I only dropped in for a coffee and had a look at the menu and wine list - reasonable house wine under 19 e, also available in carafe and smaller, half bottles available in the other wines as well. Big jugs of squash for only €2! Regretted I had lunch elsewhere otherwise I would love to have tried it.

Tara Cafe has been opened a few months, have been in there a few times. It's a nice little place for lunch.

Asdfghjkl987

sdanseo wrote: »

Reading Kylemore's objection (and subsequent ABP appeal - a complete abuse of the planning process) is almost comical. They can't even spell. Overpriced, horrible and outdated, it'll do them good to have some competition.

The floor plans are extremely hard to visualise however.

Planning ref. is :F16A/0107

Miserable place. No idea how they manage to stay open.

Homer

Asdfghjkl987 wrote: »

Miserable place. No idea how they manage to stay open.

How people eat that tripe they try pass off as a breakfast is beyond me! It’s like something from 20 years ago. Completely out of date.

Asdfghjkl987

Slightly OT, but after visiting today I noticed how incredibly outdated the car parking system is in the centre car park. Only 2 ticket machines at the main entrance that only accept cash. Outdated neon signs also for space availability.
Considering Pavilions is owned by the same people as Dundrum tc with such a modern car parking system it’s surprising.
Granted parking is free for 2 hours in Pavilions, it’s still pretty bad

cbreeze

Homer wrote: »

How people eat that tripe they try pass off as a breakfast is beyond me! It’s like something from 20 years ago. Completely out of date.

Without looking at the previous post I just knew that this was about the Kylemore. Only thing going for it is they have plenty of space. I went in the other day had a look at the hot food and walked right out again.

Inquitus

cbreeze wrote: »

Without looking at the previous post I just knew that this was about the Kylemore. Only thing going for it is they have plenty of space. I went in the other day had a look at the hot food and walked right out again.

I've never eaten in there it looks manky.

sdanseo

Asdfghjkl987 wrote: »

Slightly OT, but after visiting today I noticed how incredibly outdated the car parking system is in the centre car park. Only 2 ticket machines at the main entrance that only accept cash. Outdated neon signs also for space availability.
Considering Pavilions is owned by the same people as Dundrum tc with such a modern car parking system it’s surprising.
Granted parking is free for 2 hours in Pavilions, it’s still pretty bad

The whole exterior is in dire need of a revamp. The traffic system lends itself by poor design to delays with two pedestrian priority crossings, a roundabout, two right turns into car parks which are almost always full and not to mention two lanes which are both too narrow and not enough space to merge properly with traffic coming in from the R132. An of course the first entrace into car park C is always closed / coned off.

The biggest pet peeve though has to be the countless selfish bástards who block the roundabout waiting in a queue for the small car park B in front of the main door. That carpark should be demolished and the tyres of everyone who does this should be slashed and stuck on spikes as a reminder to others how not to behave in public. This probably accounts for a significant proportion of the total use of my car's horn.

The Davestator

sdanseo wrote: »

The whole exterior is in dire need of a revamp. The traffic system lends itself by poor design to delays with two pedestrian priority crossings, a roundabout, two right turns into car parks which are almost always full and not to mention two lanes which are both too narrow and not enough space to merge properly with traffic coming in from the R132. An of course the first entrace into car park C is always closed / coned off.

The biggest pet peeve though has to be the countless selfish bástards who block the roundabout waiting in a queue for the small car park B in front of the main door. That carpark should be demolished and the tyres of everyone who does this should be slashed and stuck on spikes as a reminder to others how not to behave in public. This probably accounts for a significant proportion of the total use of my car's horn.

100%

I keep meaning to conduct a survey with the people who queue to get into that car park.

I genuinely want to know why they do it. It's not faster. It's not much nearer.

I don't for a second believe that they all have physical limitations.

Dizzyblonde

I reckon they're all drivers who can't do a hill start so they're terrified of the multi storey car park

Arthur Daley

Herd mentality

PCros

I've always wondered why they cone that entrance to car park C off? Anyone coming in via the slip road off the R132 could easily go and park in there...

Homer

The Davestator wrote: »

100%
I don't for a second believe that they all have physical limitations.

I believe quite a few have mental limitations however!

The Davestator

Homer wrote: »

I believe quite a few have mental limitations however!

100% of them!

ongarboy

cbreeze wrote: »

Homer wrote: »

How people eat that tripe they try pass off as a breakfast is beyond me! It’s like something from 20 years ago. Completely out of date.

Without looking at the previous post I just knew that this was about the Kylemore.  Only thing going for it is they have plenty of space.  I went in the other day had a look at the hot food and walked right out again.

Agreed! Kylemore is stuck in a 1980s timewarp and assumes everyone still just eats nothing but all day breakfasts (fine if done well but awful if stuck under a heat lamp all day) and a coffee range that just includes coffee with or without milk.  No wonder all their other cafes have shut down. Cork, Stephens Green and O'Connell St etc.   A factory canteen would serve better quality food.

plodder

Just reading this thread, I see some mentions of Five Guys, which I don't know at all, but the name stuck in my head since reading this a few weeks ago:

Catherine Cleary: My worst ever meal as a restaurant reviewer

What did Dublin do to deserve this burger joint that gives the gag reflex a workout?

Hope they just had a bad day ...

While I think all new restaurants are to be welcomed, I'd prefer to see some of them out and about the Main st. rather than all in the Pavilions.

The Davestator

plodder wrote: »

Just reading this thread, I see some mentions of Five Guys, which I don't know at all, but the name stuck in my head since reading this a few weeks ago:

Catherine Cleary: My worst ever meal as a restaurant reviewer


Hope they just had a bad day ...

While I think all new restaurants are to be welcomed, I'd prefer to see some of them out and about the Main st. rather than all in the Pavilions.

Five Guys are scandalously nice IMO

Expensive though - 15 euro ish for a burger, small fries and a drink. (the drink is refillable as much as you like though)

The chip portions are MASSIVE.

lawred2

Asdfghjkl987 wrote: »

Slightly OT, but after visiting today I noticed how incredibly outdated the car parking system is in the centre car park. Only 2 ticket machines at the main entrance that only accept cash. Outdated neon signs also for space availability.
Considering Pavilions is owned by the same people as Dundrum tc with such a modern car parking system it’s surprising.
Granted parking is free for 2 hours in Pavilions, it’s still pretty bad

It's ridiculous - it's such a waste of land.

Another centre with multi story parking could be added where all that surface parking is..

plodder

lawred2 wrote: »

It's ridiculous - it's such a waste of land.

Another centre with multi story parking could be added where all that surface parking is..

An entrance direct into the carpark from the bypass, which doesn't just dump traffic onto the same entrance road from the town side, would be useful, and also a few more pay machines. I think the centre itself is a nice size though. It's got everything I'd want and more.

lawred2

plodder wrote: »

lawred2 wrote: »

It's ridiculous - it's such a waste of land.

Another centre with multi story parking could be added where all that surface parking is..

An entrance direct into the carpark from the bypass, which doesn't just dump traffic onto the same entrance road from the town side, would be useful, and also a few more pay machines. I think the centre itself is a nice size though. It's got everything I'd want and more.

Sorry I didn't mean that they should add another shopping center... Just that there is that much badly used wasted space..

Asdfghjkl987

lawred2 wrote: »

Another centre with multi story parking could be added where all that surface parking is..

Plan was to build a huge extension on the car park land a few years back, which would’ve linked the centre to the metro, but it was shelved. Probably explains the state of the car-park and why they have no interest in changing it.

Asdfghjkl987

Surprised that they haven’t really started construction on this. If they plan to open before Christmas they’re not leaving a lot of time, all things considered!

pinkypinky

Well, the work is all internal. Both shops are closed, so I presume activity is happening behind the hoardings.

tobsey

pinkypinky wrote: »

Well, the work is all internal. Both shops are closed, so I presume activity is happening behind the hoardings.

I thinks it’s going upstairs, above those shops that are closed. Unless they’re using the downstairs too

Asdfghjkl987

tobsey wrote: »

I thinks it’s going upstairs, above those shops that are closed. Unless they’re using the downstairs too

Yep the work going on now is for JD sports

ongarboy

Starbucks opening another cafe in old H2 Clothing unit in Swords Central section according to today's Irish Times. Holland & Barrett and The Works also opening nearby.

Asdfghjkl987

ongarboy wrote: »

Starbucks opening another cafe in old H2 Clothing unit in Swords Central section according to today's Irish Times. Holland & Barrett and The Works also opening nearby.

Not the best tenant mix down there but glad to see it’s on the way to full occupancy. I don’t think it’s ever been at full occupancy since opening.

PCros

I don't know what it is but I always just think its cold and dreary down that end.

Also the big door that leads out onto main street beside the Garda station was broken for about 5 years. One sliding door would't open so they just left a wet floor sign in front of it.