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Needhome

Hi people, im wondering if anyone can help me in the situation im in. Im looking for an apartment somewhere in dublin kildare or galway to rent.
Im a 40yr old man from dublin,
I became homeless after splitting with my long term partner a year ago, i've went to the homeleas section and they gave me the HAP, ive never had this before as i was living with the x since i was 20. But ive come to realise that anywhere i reply to with apartments to rent that would suit me i dont get replies. I dont have any refs at all that the landlords look for as ive never had to rent a place before.
Is there anyone out there that is willing to rent me out a 1or2 bed apartment on this HAP sceme?
I badly need my own place so i can get.my life back together and get working. I dont drink or do drugs. I like to keep to myself an do my own thing. Ive been living on the streets now a year and its getting in on me.i dont know what else to do in this situation.

Any help at all is much apreciated.

Tina82

sorry to hear you've been going through a rough time. have you any family in your life?

Needhome

No just myself

Tina82 wrote: »

sorry to hear you've been going through a rough time. have you any family in your life?

jimmycrackcorm

You would be better to look at house shares.

fritzelly

Think you're gonna have a hard time of it with not working and no previous references and your current situation.
Try something like the Iveagh hostel or I think the Vinny's have one across the road as well, give you time to get yourself sorted out

Needhome

Yea i know, its the world we live in,people like to judge others on things like that. I cant get work till i have an address.beore i became homeless i got my D licence.so if i get my own place ill be going for a coach job.

Ive done the whole merchants quey stuf and i wo t be doing it again. When your not a drinker or on drugs you dont fit in in there. Had my life threatened in there so id rather go back to where i was sleeping on the street. That hostel you mentioned is full,i went there and theres a long list of people waiting to get in. Im a year now on the streets, i wont be putting up with it for much longer

fritzelly wrote: »

Think you're gonna have a hard time of it with not working and no previous references and your current situation.
Try something like the Iveagh hostel or I think the Vinny's have one across the road as well, give you time to get yourself sorted out

fritzelly

Don't know what its like now but it used to be with the Iveagh turn up every morning and hope there is a place - takes some perseverance but an acquaintance got in there within a few weeks and was just the starting block he needed with somewhere to call home. Do they have a waiting list now? The Vinnys place across the road maybe? Always looks like a more "rougher" crowd in there tho

Don't know Merchants Quay but read enough online about those sorts of places to know where you're coming from wanting to avoid them.

Any friends to use for an address? GoAhead looking for drivers, could be a good route into work quick - saw a driver training bus for GoAhead a week or two ago (only one I've seen mind). Looking for something like 400 drivers
https://www.go-aheaddublin.ie/careers/

the_syco

Needhome wrote: »

But ive come to realise that anywhere i reply to with apartments to rent that would suit me i dont get replies.

Unfortunately, the government made it illegal to refuse HAP. This now means that everyone has to say they accept it, but in reality the LL's will pick another reason to refuse it, and it wastes peoples time, as instead of only the places that said they took RA (Rent Allowance, what existed before HAP) taking it, you have to waste your time looking at places that say they accept it, but don't really.

Have you applied to rent studio apartments, such as http://www.daft.ie/21844636 or http://www.daft.ie/21844763

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the_syco

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

:eek:

I'd wonder if the ad is legit. Like the phone numbers on the lads jacks promising a "good time", I'd wonder if you could put up an ad, and change the contact number, and have several thousand people ring someone looking for a house that doesn't exist?

Catlady76

Could you get a post going on FB I noticed this worked for another lad that was in the same position and 2 people offered him a property they had to rent one was in Cork and one was somewhere else but I think he took the one in Cork.

dennyk

the_syco wrote: »

I'd wonder if the ad is legit. Like the phone numbers on the lads jacks promising a "good time", I'd wonder if you could put up an ad, and change the contact number, and have several thousand people ring someone looking for a house that doesn't exist?

Hell, it's actually a common scam. Put up a fake property listing with some nice pictures, get desperate people willing to accept it sight unseen to contact you about it, convince them to wire you a deposit and first month's rent (or meet in person to give you cash if you're especially cheeky and/or stupid), then disappear before they realize you don't own the place and it quite possibly doesn't even exist in the first place.

In this case, though, it's probably just that the lister knows they're going to get hundreds of people clamoring for the place and doesn't want to deal with endless email and SMS spam asking about it. Much easier to buy a prepaid burner, don't activate the voicemail, answer calls for a few days until you find a tenant, then toss it and avoid all the bother of telling the next several hundred people that the place is gone.

Claw Hammer

dennyk wrote: »

Hell, it's actually a common scam. Put up a fake property listing with some nice pictures, get desperate people willing to accept it sight unseen to contact you about it, convince them to wire you a deposit and first month's rent (or meet in person to give you cash if you're especially cheeky and/or stupid), then disappear before they realize you don't own the place and it quite possibly doesn't even exist in the first place.

In this case, though, it's probably just that the lister knows they're going to get hundreds of people clamoring for the place and doesn't want to deal with endless email and SMS spam asking about it. Much easier to buy a prepaid burner, don't activate the voicemail, answer calls for a few days until you find a tenant, then toss it and avoid all the bother of telling the next several hundred people that the place is gone.

More convenient not to get phone calls. The easier thing to do is set up a special email address collect all the emails and contact the tenants based on information the tenants themselves supply. When a tenant has been selected all emails other can simply be ignored.

Graces7

Will the council not find you emergency accommodation? Or try Focus or Simon etc ?

Needhome wrote: »

Hi people, im wondering if anyone can help me in the situation im in. Im looking for an apartment somewhere in dublin kildare or galway to rent.
Im a 40yr old man from dublin,
I became homeless after splitting with my long term partner a year ago, i've went to the homeleas section and they gave me the HAP, ive never had this before as i was living with the x since i was 20. But ive come to realise that anywhere i reply to with apartments to rent that would suit me i dont get replies. I dont have any refs at all that the landlords look for as ive never had to rent a place before.
Is there anyone out there that is willing to rent me out a 1or2 bed apartment on this HAP sceme?
I badly need my own place so i can get.my life back together and get working. I dont drink or do drugs. I like to keep to myself an do my own thing. Ive been living on the streets now a year and its getting in on me.i dont know what else to do in this situation.

Any help at all is much apreciated.

Needhome

Nope,ive been to them. Because im a single man they cant do anyrhing or get me anywhere other than hostels with drug usrrs and drinkers. I refuse to stay in them places as i was told first hand by people i got to know in merchants quey what its like in them places. Your not safe and neither is your belongings .

Graces7 wrote: »

Will the council not find you emergency accommodation? Or try Focus or Simon etc ?

Graces7

Needhome wrote: »

Nope,ive been to them. Because im a single man they cant do anyrhing or get me anywhere other than hostels with drug usrrs and drinkers. I refuse to stay in them places as i was told first hand by people i got to know in merchants quey what its like in them places. Your not safe and neither is your belongings .

D o you have any shelter eg a car?

Needhome

Graces7 wrote: »

D o you have any shelter eg a car?

No,i ride a motorbike.ive hsd simce 3yrs ago.its the only thing i have till i get back on my feet

Needhome

Just an update on what im dealing with, and wonder do i have a case with this "landlord".
Got a reply from a place in galway and he said it was still for rent but was sharing with himself. Then when i said yes ok woukd you accept hap until i get a jog driving coaches in the area he said no he doesnt accept hap that its too mesdy. Do i have a case now with this carry on?

fritzelly

Needhome wrote: »

Just an update on what im dealing with, and wonder do i have a case with this "landlord".
Got a reply from a place in galway and he said it was still for rent but was sharing with himself. Then when i said yes ok woukd you accept hap until i get a jog driving coaches in the area he said no he doesnt accept hap that its too mesdy. Do i have a case now with this carry on?

Think you've got enough to deal with without this - plus nothing much will probably happen so just a waste of time

dennyk

I don't believe licensee arrangements fall under the same anti-discrimination laws as tenancies, so you may not actually have a case anyway, unfortunately.

vectorvictor

Needhome wrote: »

Just an update on what im dealing with, and wonder do i have a case with this "landlord".
Got a reply from a place in galway and he said it was still for rent but was sharing with himself. Then when i said yes ok woukd you accept hap until i get a jog driving coaches in the area he said no he doesnt accept hap that its too mesdy. Do i have a case now with this carry on?

Op your best bet is a letting agent. If you walk in the door well presented and explain your situation you might be surprised. When dealing with negotiators they generally make the decision not the landlord. Therefore having one of these on your side gives you access to a much better volume of options. I am assuming by saying you are looking for a one or two bed that you have been approved on the basis of having children / access. If you dont then realistically the Hap limit for one person with no kids will only cover renting a room.

You are wasting your time on Daft with HAP that shouldnt be the case but it is.

If you are linked in with a key worker there may be help with this process too such as prepping you for what to say to agents.

Your half way there now its just a case of putting your best foot forward and playing a numbers game.

Best of luck

fritzelly

Is there not any charities that help with this kind of thing - like know you are not a raving lunatic and source accommodation for you and kinda guarantee your tenancy for you?

Juwwi

OP have you gone to Focus Ireland and told them your situation ?

IMO that needs to be your next step if you haven't

davemie

Wow, I could be wrong, but you appear to be more interest in having a case against an owner occupier than sorting yourself out! I agree that discrimination is wrong, and you need help, but wow.

Needhome

davemie wrote: »

Wow, I could be wrong, but you appear to be more interest in having a case against an owner occupier than sorting yourself out! I agree that discrimination is wrong, and you need help, but wow.

Well you are wrong, ive had more than one do this to me an i just left it an went on. Im just sick of the landlords doing this to me an everyone else in the country. I couldnt give a dam really about having a case or not,it was just a question. It wont put me off course in doing what i need to do in getting my own place anyhow. Its just annoying been homeless an going through all this and i dont do drugs or drink.
Hope that explains

Needhome

robbie1977 wrote: »

OP have you gone to Focus Ireland and told them your situation ?

IMO that needs to be your next step if you haven't

Yes ive been to focus,they dont do anything. They only ever gave me sheets of places that they took off daft for me to contact to get my own place. But ive been doing that already before they gave me them and nothing

fritzelly

Have you tried contacting Threshold? Do they help in finding accommodation?
Or how about cluid.ie

Really need to start making contact with these types of organisations and build up a rapport to help you get somewhere

fritzelly

Ohh just to be clear where are you based? Thought you were Dublin but you mention Galway above?

Needhome

fritzelly wrote: »

Ohh just to be clear where are you based? Thought you were Dublin but you mention Galway above?

Yes im from dublin but the hap allows me to go to galway, and galway is where the work is for ciach drivers so said id go there

Needhome

fritzelly wrote: »

Have you tried contacting Threshold? Do they help in finding accommodation?
Or how about cluid.ie

Really need to start making contact with these types of organisations and build up a rapport to help you get somewhere

Never heard of those 2 orginisations, ill look them up an go see them

fritzelly

Needhome wrote: »

Yes im from dublin but the hap allows me to go to galway, and galway is where the work is for ciach drivers so said id go there

Is there really that much call for D licence drivers in Galway? Did you check out GoAhead?
Unless you have a job there it would be stupid to move and become totally isolated

Don't think cluid operate in Dublin but no harm in making contact

Needhome

fritzelly wrote: »

Is there really that much call for D licence drivers in Galway? Did you check out GoAhead?
Unless you have a job there it would be stupid to move and become totally isolated

Don't think cluid operate in Dublin but no harm in making contact

Yes all over the west of ireland because of the tourist attractions. But in genral the coach industry is under staffed with drivers all over ireland. So a monkey could nearly get a job driving a coach if they knew he could drive it
Its kinda a case where i need a place to live in order to get a job there.they wont take me on if i had an address from dublin.so need address first then getting a job driving shouldnt be hard with the fact of being under staffed in the coach industry

Why won't they take you in without an address in Galway, that's bizarre type of carry on if true. Most people get jobs and move to an area after getting the job there that's the norm I don't see why it would be any different for coach drivers. Are you sure this is really the case?

Pawwed Rig

Could you use someone's address while you are getting a job? All they need is somewhere you are contactable. You don't necessarily need to live there

Needhome

Benjamin Chubby Clip wrote: »

Why won't they take you in without an address in Galway, that's bizarre type of carry on if true. Most people get jobs and move to an area after getting the job there that's the norm I don't see why it would be any different for coach drivers. Are you sure this is really the case?

Um youve always needed to have an address to get employment, i dont have an address so if i say to the employer im homeless id be told ah ye ehh we'll be intouch an not hear from them again.

Bruisedego

Could you get a hostel in Galway for a few nights and see if it's really where you want to live? Maybe somebody working there would know of somewhere to rent. It might be easier to find somewhere in Dublin.
Is there anywhere else but Galway you can go - there seems to be a huge amount of buses going around the West of Ireland, Clare/Kerry?

Needhome

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Could you use someone's address while you are getting a job? All they need is somewhere you are contactable. You don't necessarily need to live there

I dont know anyone who would, and with being a coach driver you need to dress smart with shirt an slacks an shoes.i had those but there in my ex's house aswel as everything else i owned which was a good bit of stuff. So i dont have the clothes id need to wear if i did get a job,plus i cant afford to get new ones right now,plus ive no where to keep the clothes clean for work with the 2 bags i have and a back box on the motorbike being full to the brim.

Needhome

Bruisedego wrote: »

Could you get a hostel in Galway for a few nights and see if it's really where you want to live? Maybe somebody working there would know of somewhere to rent. It might be easier to find somewhere in Dublin.
Is there anywhere else but Galway you can go - there seems to be a huge amount of buses going around the West of Ireland, Clare/Kerry?

Well with the people thats in the hostels in dublin might be the same in galway so id rather not stay in them,id live anywhere tbh,once i have my own door an bed i dont care what gies on outside. Ive been on the streets a year now this month and at the early stages of getting the HAP i was only searching in dublin for places to rent,nothing came of it, i either got no answer or got told no that they dont accept hap because of bla bla reasons. So then i went into merchants quey an asked the guy that fought to get my hap forms where else was i entitled to go on hap out of dublin an he said wicklow, kildare galway and cork. So ive been searching galway. Yes theres a ton of coaches in the west because of the tousirst attraction there.this is why i want to go because i know the demand for coach drivers is high and id gwt a job no problem. I just need my own place and give the employers an address for me.they wont take me on otherwise

taylor3

I don't have much advice I'm afraid but just wanted to post my support for you. I hope and pray you get the break that you need. You seem like a decent individual and hard times can come upon anyone so I truly wish you well in finding a home/job. You deserve a chance. Good Luck to you. God bless.

Bruisedego

Well with the people thats in the hostels in dublin might be the same in galway so id rather not stay in them,id live anywhere tbh,once i have my own door an bed i dont care what gies on outside.

Fair point. I was think they might not be as busy as Dublin so it might be easier to get a bed for a few nights but I get what you are saying.

I just need my own place and give the employers an address for me.they wont take me on otherwise.

I can understand this too. Maybe somebody here is in hr & can advise you if there is another way around that.
The Facebook idea isn't bad to look for a room in a house share - even if you could manage it for a few weeks to give yourself time to get yourself organised. If you said it was for 2/3 months or whatever timeframe, you might find somebody looking for the rent - moreso if in student accommodation where they are gone for summer.

Bruisedego

http://www.daft.ie/21846496

How about sending an email to somewhere like this and saying you are moving to Galway in the coming weeks and are looking for somewhere short-term while you are awaiting your contract from work to get permanent accommodation?

State you are a tidy person, looking for somewhere quiet to live.

I really hope you manage to get sorted.

Needhome

taylor3 wrote: »

I don't have much advice I'm afraid but just wanted to post my support for you. I hope and pray you get the break that you need. You seem like a decent individual and hard times can come upon anyone so I truly wish you well in finding a home/job. You deserve a chance. Good Luck to you. God bless.

Thank you, your kind words is enough an appreciated. Its been 1yr now been homeless and its tough when you know the streets is not for you, it has never been easy for me through the years but i just keep taken the punches so to soeak. Been homeless is as low as i can go so it has to get better i hope.

Needhome

Bruisedego wrote: »

Well with the people thats in the hostels in dublin might be the same in galway so id rather not stay in them,id live anywhere tbh,once i have my own door an bed i dont care what gies on outside.

Fair point. I was think they might not be as busy as Dublin so it might be easier to get a bed for a few nights but I get what you are saying.

I just need my own place and give the employers an address for me.they wont take me on otherwise.

I can understand this too. Maybe somebody here is in hr & can advise you if there is another way around that.
The Facebook idea isn't bad to look for a room in a house share - even if you could manage it for a few weeks to give yourself time to get yourself organised. If you said it was for 2/3 months or whatever timeframe, you might find somebody looking for the rent - moreso if in student accommodation where they are gone for summer.

Yea hostels is a no for me,i just dont trust them with what i went through in dublin, had my life threatened by someone, then heard a ton of stuff that happened in hostels in dublin.you cant even charge your fone without it been taken if you take your eyes off it for a split second.
I went onto the pages on facebook for houses/apts to rent and nothing came of it.ive had about 3 adds on there that were scams.so kinda a waste of time searching there.

vectorvictor

OP we can all only give general advice. I'm going to give you advice based on Dublin as that's all I know.

First things first. Forget about the job. That isn't your priority and you don't sound in the right frame of mind. Despite what's said in the press, there is no reason for anybody to be sleeping rough in this city for a year.

If I were you I would forget the Galway plan. Also I'm assuming you have been accepted onto hap by a Dublin local authority so you are making extra work by trying to get accepted or transferred to a Galway authority.

You haven't answered what you have been approved for in terms of HAP i.e. Single adult or Single with one child. If you are a single adult HAP will only get you a room based on the limits. If you have a qualified child then they will pay up to about 1500 in dublin.

You have dismissed hostels out of hand. You have a choice of the emergency hostels or to pay for yourself in a tourist hostel (10-15 per night). The perceptions you have of these aren't wholy accurate and by avoiding emergency accommodation you are going to be completely out of loop with the services that can help you.

My action plan would be:

1.) Go to the Light House ( pearse street). In addition to food services these have a full wardrobe of clothes, hair cutting service etc.. Get clobbered up and well presented. Don't be embarrassed to ask, everybody there has been or is in the same position at some stage. You can find their hours here : http://www.dcmlive.ie/outreach.html

2.) Get a list of letting agents and go around to them at a rate of 5 a day (this only applies if you are qualified for the higher hap payment that comes with having a qualified child. Explain your situation and the positives of it for them. They will get deposit plus 2 months rent in advance etc..

3.) If you are qualified for the lower payment that will get you a room in shared accommodation ring up every one thats advertised. Say nothing about hap. Go along well presented , build a rapport, and say absolutely nothing about HAP until they accept you. Then just drop it in that you've a form for them to sign and the rent will be on the way. You'll get 99% rejections at this stage but you are only looking for that 1% !

Some of your replies sound like you feel defeated and I can understand that but if you don't find a bit of positivity you are going to find yourself stuck in this rut. Getting housed is going to be bloody hard work. If you treat it like a full time job you could be sorted in a month, if you go half arsed at it with a feeling of wasting your time then it is never going to happen.

Thousands have people have gone through homelessness. The only difference between those that emerge from or remain in it is the level of fight they have him them and their willingness to use and hassle every service that's available to them. Once you are ready to stop talking and start doing then you will be ok.

Finally, if you haven't talked to Crosscare then you need to. They have excellent advice and hands on services.

If some of my advice sounds direct I hope you only take it in the way it's intended - to help.

I have no affiliation to any of the services mentioned above.

Bruisedego

Completely understand and I don't blame you.

Could you set up a profile and put what you are looking for ask people to share it for you? I have seen this done myself when people are moving to cities to study etc. and can't find anywhere. People are good to share the posts and to respond.

It might get you a room in a house temporary until you are sorted. I have house shared, some people keep to themselves, some interact. Once you tidy up after yourself and don't make too much noise, it's not bad.

Needhome

Bruisedego wrote: »

http://www.daft.ie/21846496

How about sending an email to somewhere like this and saying you are moving to Galway in the coming weeks and are looking for somewhere short-term while you are awaiting your contract from work to get permanent accommodation?

State you are a tidy person, looking for somewhere quiet to live.

I really hope you manage to get sorted.

Thanks ill send an email to that person now.
I hope i get sorted too because this is doing my head in what i do everyday, lack of sleep,sitting in garages during the day trying to figure out what im doing with my life.
Thanks for the link

EvolvedApe

OP, I think you need to realistically look at the situation.

You want to be given money to rent a property.
You want the landlord to give you the property over someone who brings less of a risk of causing them problems due to drink or drunks or other antisocial behavior.
You want an employer to employ you over someone who is less likely to cause them problems.

In a world where everyone is battling, you offer no pros. What can you do for people?

vectorvictor

EvolvedApe wrote: »

You want the landlord to give you the property over someone who brings less of a risk of causing them problems due to drink or drunks or other antisocial behavior.
You want an employer to employ you over someone who is less likely to cause them problems.

The OP had stated there is no addiction issue. Did you hear homeless and automatically hear addiction?

Unfortunately this is the sort of uneducated mindset that the OP is battling with in the open market and is a good reminder for him of what he is up against.

EvolvedApe

vectorvictor wrote: »

The OP had stated there is no addiction issue. Did you hear homeless and automatically hear addiction?

Unfortunately this is the sort of uneducated mindset that the OP is battling with in the open market and is a good reminder for him of what he is up against.

When you hear homeless it doesnt automatically mean addiction. But chances are much greater then someone who isnt homeless.
There are countless studies that back this up, use google.

The reality of the situation, is that landlords will all look after themselves and not take the chance.

Its a harsh reality but reality none the less. Are you going to give him a home or just tell us how high and mighty you are?. I was just pointing out what the OP is facing. I think he would be best getting a fake address that he can use and some fake references.
Why dont you offer him your address for post?

Bruisedego

LinkedIn can be a good way to get to recruiters. If you join it and put in you are looking for work, use key words like coach driving, hospitality etc. they will soon ad you. They look for commission so will be pushing to get you something.

It would be great if you could get accommodation sorted.

Sorry to be throwing so many things at you op, I'm sure you have thought of it all already. Sounds like you have been through a tough time, I hope in a year from now, you will be after turning things around and in a much better place.

vectorvictor

EvolvedApe wrote: »

Its a harsh reality but reality none the less. Are you going to give him a home or just tell us how high and mighty you are?. I was just pointing out what the OP is facing. I think he would be best getting a fake address that he can use and some fake references.

I've offered the OP practical advice based on experience, you've told him he has nothing to offer. I think your high and mighty comment is misdirected and your last post is embarrassingly out of touch - I base my comments on living life not Google.