Assassin's Creed Odyssey

Temptamperu

Yeah i noticed there is more upgrades than resources... kind off pushing you to go to the store or spend a week out at sea killing everyone.

Bad ubisoft, BAD!!

.G.

Voice acting for Alexios is atrocious. Should be such a simple thing to get right in a game and really makes the difference. I'm too far in to be arsed starting again as Kassandra

Potential-Monke

Yeah, didn't know what Alexios sounded like until just before the Andros Island mission, and subsequent to that mission. He sounds like an english speaking voice actor trying to copy the Japanese version of his character. Horrendous. Delighted I picked Kassandra, because if his normal voice is anything like the conversations I had with him, i'd probably have to start again. Shocking stuff really. But doesn't have a major impact on my game yet, so i'll keep going.

Between the missions, naval missions, mercs, cultists and whatever else is to come, there's certainly more than enough to do in this game. I intend on finishing the story at least before RDR2 and trading it in then, but I'd imagine if I even get the story finished, there will be so much more left to do.

Also, have the Helmet of Ares and Breastplate of Ares, but they're not showing as a set, which is annoying.

Sephiroth_dude

That boar is some ****er!

dreamers75

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

That boar is some ****er!

he is ****ing impossible!!!!!

I met him at level 10, I went back 3 times and he kicked my arse.

I went with the story and just got overpowered attack, my first thought is im going to kill that ****ing boar.

Temptamperu

You didnt meet that boar at level 10... theres an even worse boar.

Sephiroth_dude

dreamers75 wrote: »

he is ****ing impossible!!!!!

I met him at level 10, I went back 3 times and he kicked my arse.

I went with the story and just got overpowered attack, my first thought is im going to kill that ****ing boar.

Temptamperu wrote: »

You didnt meet that boar at level 10... theres an even worse boar.

The guy I met is part of a side quest, level 13,I'm level 12 and went switched down to easy and still couldn't kill the ****er! there's a worse one to come? do enemies scale with you?

Penn

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

The guy I met is part of a side quest, level 13,I'm level 12 and went switched down to easy and still couldn't kill the ****er! there's a worse one to come? do enemies scale with you?

The boar you're referring to doesn't scale with you (thankfully). Beat him after a few tries even at Lvl15. Main bits of advice, get the skill that refills 25% of your health. I used it several times in that fight. Aside from that, dodge until you're behind him (or at least towards his rear at his side), two swings of the sword, then dodge again to keep behind him. Only go for more than two attacks if you're fully behind him and after he's just tried to attack. Keep your adrenaline abilities for the small boars, but always keep one for refilling health.

Anyway, watched a few cutscenes with Alexios last night. Wow... that actor sure goes for it with every sentence. Not entirely sure what the "it" he's going for is, but he goes for it. He is not good. Kassandra is a joy of a character though. Her voice actress is great.

Penn

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Usually when there's a male / female protagonist I always play both for two playthroughs. I was considering playing as Alexios because I like his cool look with the dreadlocked hair and manbun... and then he started talking and I thought, 'yeah, no'.

Having witnessed his first confrontation with Kassandra in the game where he tells her to "get up here"

I was glad I dodged that bullet. Just horrible delivery.

The past few years I've started opting to play as female protagonists when given the choice (whether in a game like this where you choose a character, or in games where you create your own character), partially because I just got bored with male protagonists or my created ones always just seeming the same, and also to see what differences the game makes if you go with a female protagonist.

Of course, that doesn't count the latest South Park where I was a non-gender specific, pansexual atheist

dreamers75

Temptamperu wrote: »

You didnt meet that boar at level 10... theres an even worse boar.

He is northwest in Phokis, I met him before I got the quest.

There is also a bear in Argolis that has nope written all over him.

Potential-Monke

I beat that boar last night. I tried a few times, and couldn't beat him so went off exploring. Found the quest from the Daughters of Artemis to beat it, and said feck it, i'll try again, and beat him this time. When the regular boars come along the Kalydonian boar will back up for about 30 seconds, try to kill the 4 of them in that time (about 4/5 hits at level 15) and then back to the main boar. As someone said above, have the health regen ability (mine is at level 2 now, so restores 35% health), really handy for fights like this.

Dcully

So im 22 hours in and playing on nightmare difficulty and totally loving it but ive come to realize a flaw in conquests.
When you want to play stealthy and spec into the assassin tree your hopefully useless in conquests, to counter this i lowered the difficulty to normal and it was barely doable even still.
I actually have to respec into a more viable build before i do conquests now which is annoying.

marcbrophy

1 really cool feature that I'm not sure if many are aware of:

With this instalment, you can go into the abilities sub-menu and for a cost in Drachmae, can reset your ability points.
This is really handy if you misplaced them early in the run and want to re-jig them.

I think you press L3 to do this

Penn

Dcully wrote: »

So im 22 hours in and playing on nightmare difficulty and totally loving it but ive come to realize a flaw in conquests.
When you want to play stealthy and spec into the assassin tree your hopefully useless in conquests, to counter this i lowered the difficulty to normal and it was barely doable even still.
I actually have to respec into a more viable build before i do conquests now which is annoying.

Yeah one thing I found weird is how I'm at about 600-800 in Hunter and Warrior stats, but my Assassin stat is near 7000. I guess it's because you do more damage in one hit with an assassination, but it looks so odd even though most of my ability points have been spent in the Warrior tree.

Sephiroth_dude

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I beat that boar last night. I tried a few times, and couldn't beat him so went off exploring. Found the quest from the Daughters of Artemis to beat it, and said feck it, i'll try again, and beat him this time. When the regular boars come along the Kalydonian boar will back up for about 30 seconds, try to kill the 4 of them in that time (about 4/5 hits at level 15) and then back to the main boar. As someone said above, have the health regen ability (mine is at level 2 now, so restores 35% health), really handy for fights like this.

That's the quest I encountered him on.

bigphil2

Just wondering how you dismantle your unwanted gear, there doesn't seem to be a button for it in the menu? . I'm on ps4 btw

Penn

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

I believe you hold square on the item you want to dismantle. Bear in mind some gear can't be dismantled such as gear purchased from the store or legendary items.

Yeah, but after the latest update there's now a storage box on your ship you can store the undismantleable (I have a feeling that's not a real word) gear in. Offloaded a bunch of crap into mine last night. Would consider upgrading some of them but too low on resources trying to upgrade my ship.

Potential-Monke

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

That's the quest I encountered him on.

What level were you? I couldn't beat him at 13, but beat him at 14/15. Was still hard though, and I used the health ability about 5 times.

Also noticed since the update it's loading faster and the time from Ikaros back to you is shortened too. Excellent update! But, I've a feeling I'll get fatigued with the sheer amount of stuff to do. I'd say I'll mess about again this weekend and I'll have 2 weeks to plough through the story so I can be finished it in time for RDR2. I'll definitely come back to it again and try and clear the map at some stage!

Sephiroth_dude

Potential-Monke wrote: »

What level were you? I couldn't beat him at 13, but beat him at 14/15. Was still hard though, and I used the health ability about 5 times.

Also noticed since the update it's loading faster and the time from Ikaros back to you is shortened too. Excellent update! But, I've a feeling I'll get fatigued with the sheer amount of stuff to do. I'd say I'll mess about again this weekend and I'll have 2 weeks to plough through the story so I can be finished it in time for RDR2. I'll definitely come back to it again and try and clear the map at some stage!

Only 12 atm LOL!

Penn

Potential-Monke wrote: »

What level were you? I couldn't beat him at 13, but beat him at 14/15. Was still hard though, and I used the health ability about 5 times.

Also noticed since the update it's loading faster and the time from Ikaros back to you is shortened too. Excellent update! But, I've a feeling I'll get fatigued with the sheer amount of stuff to do. I'd say I'll mess about again this weekend and I'll have 2 weeks to plough through the story so I can be finished it in time for RDR2. I'll definitely come back to it again and try and clear the map at some stage!

Yeah I'm feeling the same. Having to remind myself constantly "Stick to the main mission... Ignore the side quests... Stick to the main mission... Ignore the side quests... Stick to the OMG I FOUND A BOUNTY HUNTER I CAN KILL!... Okay now back to the main mission... Ignore the side quests... Stick to the main mission... Ignore the side quests..."

Yeah I got to push the story on this evening. Level 20 with what ever extra ability points I got from the pick ups too and only just got back in the boat to sail for the next story section having made 2 stops along the way to hunt some cultists which tuned into epic diversions. I'll have to force myself to plough on later.

Dcully

Folks i highly recommend you play in nightmare difficulty or hard at the very least but give nightmare a go.
I decided to do so when i was watching fextralife stream it before i bought it, makes it such a better experience with every single fight rewarding and exciting.
Brilliant game, my GOTY so far, its as if the witcher3 just got good combat.

CatInABox

I don't own this yet, my backlog is ridiculous enough as it is, but I have to say, fair play to Ubisoft for realising there was a problem with one of their franchises, taking the time off to take a proper look at what was wrong, and for having the courage to strike out in a new direction with their games. I love the new ideas in Origins, and this looks like it builds on it nicely. Great to see so many positive comments in here.

Wish more of the big publishers were willing to do the same.

dreamers75

Dcully wrote: »

Folks i highly recommend you play in nightmare difficulty or hard at the very least but give nightmare a go.
I decided to do so when i was watching fextralife stream it before i bought it, makes it such a better experience with every single fight rewarding and exciting.
Brilliant game, my GOTY so far, its as if the witcher3 just got good combat.

Combat is brilliant and thats my main problem with the game, I have to kill a Captain, loot some treasure, burn some supplies.

My preferred way would be to do all of that without being seen, I do the 2 smaller objectives then get behind the Captain and see my attack will do this much>..< damage leaving him with this much >...................<

So I have sneakily maneuver him into an instakill situation, read: Sparta Kick off a great height.

The mercs to me are to be fought in outright combat, but changing the whole point of assassinations to force you into combat is a bit annoying.

Im an assassin ffs, im not supposed to be seen.

Exclamation Marc

Article on whether you should choose Kassandra or Alexios.

https://mp1st.com/features/assassins-creed-odyssey-alexios-or-kassandra-the-odyssey-question?utm_content=featured

Essentially the article concludes that Kassandra is the best choice by far.

Interesting note is that Ubisoft have confirmed that Kassandra is the game's canon character.

Potential-Monke

dreamers75 wrote: »

Combat is brilliant and thats my main problem with the game, I have to kill a Captain, loot some treasure, burn some supplies.

My preferred way would be to do all of that without being seen, I do the 2 smaller objectives then get behind the Captain and see my attack will do this much>..< damage leaving him with this much >...................<

So I have sneakily maneuver him into an instakill situation, read: Sparta Kick off a great height.

The mercs to me are to be fought in outright combat, but changing the whole point of assassinations to force you into combat is a bit annoying.

Im an assassin ffs, im not supposed to be seen.

But, but, but, you're not an assassin yet! So as you progress, you will be able to cause more assassin damage, and there are abilities that allow you to 1-kill, ie: your hidden weapon does 250% damage, 400% damage. There's even 1 for 1000% damage! So while early on you are more of a brawler, as would be the case for most Mercenaries back then, you slowly transition to an Assassin. Well, that's my take on it. I still can't insta-kill a Captain, but i'm getting there!

dreamers75

Potential-Monke wrote: »

But, but, but, you're not an assassin yet! So as you progress, you will be able to cause more assassin damage, and there are abilities that allow you to 1-kill, ie: your hidden weapon does 250% damage, 400% damage. There's even 1 for 1000% damage! So while early on you are more of a brawler, as would be the case for most Mercenaries back then, you slowly transition to an Assassin. Well, that's my take on it. I still can't insta-kill a Captain, but i'm getting there!

I level 24 and can instakill some, I have the Critical Assassin move which is helpful, the actual frustration of getting in and sneaking behind them seeing you are going to barely scratch them is annoying

Then I sneak off and lure them to a height and THIS IS SPARTA them to death.

Thankfully the combat is decent.

The Phantom Pain

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Beat the main campaign today at 100 hours. Bloody fantastic game.
Don't let anybody spoil the surprises for you.

Still got 1 or 2 side quests to do and some trophy clean ups.

I've 20 hours played and yet again stopped off after chapter 3 for more distractions but the impression i get so far is that this is basically

Assassin's creed : Origins Templars

by way of a

protagonist out to expose them for their own naive and selfish reasons and ends up championing a greater cause.

I've stopped off again on the way to a main mission lead me to a quite involved arc involving the daggers, and know I'll be stopping again before I move on

dreamers75

I am level 25 have 14 cultists dead got my 1st complete armour set (Snake) just gonna keep going after them as I want all the sets

Anyone have an issue with the mercs being reset or vanishing? I have killed a fair few but they are gone from the tier table upon next load of the game, i was hoping to kill them all ala Mordor but seems pointless now if they keep respawning with new names.

Potential-Monke

I'm loving this game, but I think I might stop playing it. Once RDR2 comes out, I was going to trade it against it anyway, but I feel I would be doing myself a disservice by not getting lost in this and only sticking to the main story. There's so much to do, and I genuinely want to do all of it. So I think I might trade it in now and pick it up again once RDR2 is done, maybe with the season pass then as a good chunk of content will be out at that stage. But at the same time I want to keep playing it! Maybe I'll stick with this and delay RDR2.

Ubisoft have really outdone themselves with this imo. I've yet to feel any sort of grind, and they got the map markers perfect with Exploration mode (I haven't played Zelda on Switch, so I can't comment how it compares to that, but it's the best busy map/layout I've seen yet). I keep comparing it to The Witcher 3, but with an AC theme, and I don't think i'm wrong in doing so. Both games play excellently, with AC possibly having the better combat. Kassandra is a joy to play as, and the only negative I have at the moment is unclear dialogue options. A few times I thought I was giving a nice answer, but I didn't. A little icon with the dialogue options to show the emotion would be nice, but not a red/blue style like ME!

This is the best AC since Black Flag for me. Even though Origins was also fantastic, Black Flag was still better, and depending on how Odyssey plays out, it could take over from Black Flag!

dreamers75 wrote: »

Anyone have an issue with the mercs being reset or vanishing? I have killed a fair few but they are gone from the tier table upon next load of the game, i was hoping to kill them all ala Mordor but seems pointless now if they keep respawning with new names.

I took that as they were defeated so were replaced by up and coming Mercs! I don't know if I mentioned earlier, but I walked past the number 1 merc recently. I wasn't wanted, thankfully, as I'd say I would have been dead with a look. Pretty cool they're just wandering around and you can come across them.

Dcully

If you love it keep it

Oh re: that gear you can't dismantle, you can store it in your ships storage. Only just noticed theres a storage box behind the helm.

dreamers75

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh re: that gear you can't dismantle, you can store it in your ships storage. Only just noticed theres a storage box behind the helm.

Added yesterday in a patch.

I cant find the scroll on Mykonos in the cave were the rebels are, this will bug me a lot.

Mykonos was an excellent island for missions definitely my favorite so far.

Finished the Daggers one myself tonight decided to let them hug it out only for

brother to kill the other and me to Spartan kick the f'er over the edge

Penn

Have to say, the one thing p*sing me off is assassinations not always assassinating people of an equal or lower level, captains and polemachs or whoever. Even the critical kill or other assassination skills can't kill them in one hit.

I could understand if they were a higher level, but if they're the same level, the critical kill assassination should be enough.

ERG89

I finished the first island earlier I feel. Battered the level 5 mercenary once I had levelled up to his level & got a hammer. Then got my boat

by killing Cyclops after Kassandra put the obsidian eye up a goat.

I can't see any missions elsewhere.
So not sure if I'll set sail yet. Is there any way of telling if you have every mission done??

dreamers75

ERG89 wrote: »

I finished the first island earlier I feel. Battered the level 5 mercenary once I had levelled up to his level & got a hammer. Then got my boat

by killing Cyclops after Kassandra put the obsidian eye up a goat.

I can't see any missions elsewhere.
So not sure if I'll set sail yet. Is there any way of telling if you have every mission done??

Go somewhere and they will appear, Side missions are an Exclamation mark (the best missions) I dont bother with the mission boards and then main missions at your leisure. There are some missions that are longterm Caves, Forts and Leader houses.


Mega spoilers below.

Phoibe!!!!

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Also FYI no matter how hard you try you cant kill Akiabiades, I hope I get a mission to kill that annoying twat.

The Phantom Pain

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

From the moment she showed up again in Athens I knew it was over.
Love Akiabiades. His quests get funnier and funnier.

I told him no at a certain point when he wanted me to get citizenship for a friend and I found out his friend past then Scrototes tried to guilt me, hope I get to kill those assholes later.

Actually Perikles shows up as a leader, so I wonder if I can just kill him and not have to deal with him anymore. Might fire up the xbox just to see if I can now.

marcbrophy

I saw the spoiler coming myself dreamers75, but it was still sad!
I got fairly riled up and was lucky that

other sibling showed up

, or i would have done it

dreamers75

This is rivaling W3 and ZOOT as best game ever.

Dcully

Im enjoying it 10x more than the witcher 3.
Put it this way i got bored of W3 on 3 attempts to do a play through , not getting more than 4 or 5 hours into ti and all the time i was thinking when will i start to enjoy this? Probably more my patience more than the games fault.
With odyssey its just fun all the way.

BelovedAunt

dreamers75 wrote: »

This is rivaling W3 and ZOOT as best game ever.

Really?

marcbrophy

So the Tier system!
Is there any point in killing these guys if others just take their place, or am I doing it wrong...?

At least with the cultists, they are gone for good once killed.

dreamers75

I am recruiting them every time I see them, between them and the Polemarcs noone is going to **** with my ship

Sephiroth_dude

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

If you check the bottom of the screen you get certain economic perks for moving up the tier. Plus when you reach number 1 you get a trophy. Also some of them relate to the story in a way I won't spoil...

You only move up the tier of you kill a fella higher level than your current level?

Sephiroth_dude

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

You only move up the tier of you kill a fella higher level than your current level?

Yeah thats how it works, you essentially take their spot in the higher tier.

Temptamperu

People who take photos on the fast travel points really grinds my gears.

Sephiroth_dude

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah thats how it works, you essentially take their spot in the higher tier.

So if I'm level 18 and I kill a level 20 lad I move up?

Sephiroth_dude

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

So if I'm level 18 and I kill a level 20 lad I move up?

No no level has nothing to do with it. It's the tier they are in so if say you are tier 6 and you kill one who is in tier 4 then you take their place in that tier.

What the hell is with the veins on the characters arms lol