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Ireland v Australia - 2nd test, how the expected starting XVs compare.

  • 11-06-2018 3:13pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1 BigMacMichael


    1. Healy v Scott Sio - Healy is back near his best, will surely be hurting from that momentum shifting scrum penalty, off the back of interesting angles from the Aussie front 5. Rating - 8. Scott Sio - can be very strong in the carry, but not very consistent and could encounter problems on Saturday given the inevitable pressure Schmidt will put on the referee to ensure the Aussies are scrummaging straight/not boring in. Rating - 6.

    2. Cronin v Brandon Paenga-Amosa - Cronin is on a strong run of form for Leinster and on his day is by some margin Ireland's best hooker. Rating - 7. Amosa - very poor first outing, consistently missing his lifters and anonymous in open play. Has shown some promise in Super rugby, should improve from his debut. Rating - 5.

    3. Furlong v Sekope Kepu - Furlong although looking fatigued, is up there with the top TH's in the world and will be looking to prove his worth in the scrum. Rating - 9. Kepu - very good handling in the loose and significantly improved in the tight, will be an interesting battle against Healy. Rating - 7.

    4. Ian Henderson v Izack Rodda. Hendy is due a big performance and on his day is a freak of nature. Rating - 8. Rodda - will have to take some slack for the lineout malfunctioning and will look to improve for Saturday, rating - 6.

    5. James Ryan v Adam Coleman - Ryan was Ireland's top performer last week and already world class, didn't deserve to lose his first game. Rating - 9. Coleman - very physical and abrasive but has a tendency to give away silly penalties, needs to improve his discipline. Rating - 6.

    6. Tadgh Beirne v Hooper - Beirne is the best jackler in the Northern Hemisphere this season and will provide a much needed threat to the Aussie breakdown, though unproven at test level, the coaching staff will expect an 8/10 showing. Rating - 8. Hooper - all class although his form has not been up to his usual standards. Rating - 8.

    7. Dan Leavy v Pocock - Leavy will relish coming up against Pocock who has had a big influence on how he modelled his game. In incredible form and perhaps offers more of a carrying threat than opposite number. Rating - 8. Pocock - game changer for the Wallabies, Ireland's biggest attribute is their ability to starve the opposition of possession, Pocock possesses an unrivalled ability to steal ball, will be interesting to see if he can have the same impact with Beirne and Leavy on the field. Rating - 10.

    8. Stander v Caleb Timu - Stander although had one of his better ball carrying outings still needs to play more heads up rugby and stop looking for traffic instead of space. Rating - 7. Timu - failed to have much impact last week but should improve with experience. Rating - 6.

    9. Conor Murray v Genia - Murray didn't have his best performance in the first test and was clearly frustrated at the referee, should be vastly improved on Saturday. Rating - 9. Genia - did all that was asked but still has not hit his top form. Rating - 8.

    10. Sexton v Foley - Sexton is imperious form and will be hurting from his first loss all season. Rating - 9. Foley - similar to Genia did all that was asked but failed to have a big impact and helped a lot by Beale. Rating - 7.

    11. Stockdale v Dane Haylett-Petty. Stockdale under-performed last week but showed glimpses of why he is so highly rated. Rating - 7. Petty - very talented footballer and showed it last week. Rating - 7.

    12. Henshaw v Beale. Henshaw showed his limitations at 13 due to his loss of pace, but has all the attributes of a world class 12 and combines to form a finely balanced centre combination with Ringrose. Rating - 8. Beale - another star in the Aussie team, on form he is an exceptional play-maker, an injury to him or Pocock would hugely affect their chances. Rating - 9.

    13. Gary Ringrose v Samu Kerevi. Ringrose - was seriously missed last week, his weaving runs and defensive reads should cause trouble. Rating - 8. Samu Kerevi showed why Kuridrani isn't being picked with a great showing, looks to have serious potential, but prone to the odd misread in defense. Rating - 7.

    14. Jordan Larmour v Marika Koroibete. Larmour didn't see much of the ball but could open up in space, still question marks over his defence. Rating - 7. Koribete - Had decent game at weekend without setting the world alight, in fine Super rugby form. Rating - 7.

    15. Kearney v Folau - Kearney made elementary errors but were uncharacteristic of his game, expect a much improved performance. Rating - 7. Folau best full back in the world by a distance, incredible in the air and in attack. Rating - 9.

    Total Irish score - 119
    Total Australia score - 108.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭ evil_seed


    1. Healy v Scott Sio - Healy is back near his best, will surely be hurting from that momentum shifting scrum penalty, off the back of interesting angles from the Aussie front 5. Rating - 8. Scott Sio - can be very strong in the carry, but not very consistent and could encounter problems on Saturday given the inevitable pressure Schmidt will put on the referee to ensure the Aussies are scrummaging straight/not boring in. Rating - 6.

    2. Cronin v Brandon Paenga-Amosa - Cronin is on a strong run of form for Leinster and on his day is by some margin Ireland's best hooker. Rating - 7. Amosa - very poor first outing, consistently missing his lifters and anonymous in open play. Has shown some promise in Super rugby, should improve from his debut. Rating - 5.

    3. Furlong v Sekope Kepu - Furlong although looking fatigued, is up there with the top TH's in the world and will be looking to prove his worth in the scrum. Rating - 9. Kepu - very good handling in the loose and significantly improved in the tight, will be an interesting battle against Healy. Rating - 7.

    4. Ian Henderson v Izack Rodda. Hendy is due a big performance and on his day is a freak of nature. Rating - 8. Rodda - will have to take some slack for the lineout malfunctioning and will look to improve for Saturday, rating - 6.

    5. James Ryan v Adam Coleman - Ryan was Ireland's top performer last week and already world class, didn't deserve to lose his first game. Rating - 9. Coleman - very physical and abrasive but has a tendency to give away silly penalties, needs to improve his discipline. Rating - 6.

    6. Tadgh Beirne v Hooper - Beirne is the best jackler in the Northern Hemisphere this season and will provide a much needed threat to the Aussie breakdown, though unproven at test level, the coaching staff will expect an 8/10 showing. Rating - 8. Hooper - all class although his form has not been up to his usual standards. Rating - 8.

    7. Dan Leavy v Pocock - Leavy will relish coming up against Pocock who has had a big influence on how he modelled his game. In incredible form and perhaps offers more of a carrying threat than opposite number. Rating - 8. Pocock - game changer for the Wallabies, Ireland's biggest attribute is their ability to starve the opposition of possession, Pocock possesses an unrivalled ability to steal ball, will be interesting to see if he can have the same impact with Beirne and Leavy on the field. Rating - 10.

    8. Stander v Caleb Timu - Stander although had one of his better ball carrying outings still needs to play more heads up rugby and stop looking for traffic instead of space. Rating - 7. Timu - failed to have much impact last week but should improve with experience. Rating - 6.

    9. Conor Murray v Genia - Murray didn't have his best performance in the first test and was clearly frustrated at the referee, should be vastly improved on Saturday. Rating - 9. Genia - did all that was asked but still has not hit his top form. Rating - 8.

    10. Sexton v Foley - Sexton is imperious form and will be hurting from his first loss all season. Rating - 9. Foley - similar to Genia did all that was asked but failed to have a big impact and helped a lot by Beale. Rating - 7.

    11. Stockdale v Dane Haylett-Petty. Stockdale under-performed last week but showed glimpses of why he is so highly rated. Rating - 7. Petty - very talented footballer and showed it last week. Rating - 7.

    12. Henshaw v Beale. Henshaw showed his limitations at 13 due to his loss of pace, but has all the attributes of a world class 12 and combines to form a finely balanced centre combination with Ringrose. Rating - 8. Beale - another star in the Aussie team, on form he is an exceptional play-maker, an injury to him or Pocock would hugely affect their chances. Rating - 9.

    13. Gary Ringrose v Samu Kerevi. Ringrose - was seriously missed last week, his weaving runs and defensive reads should cause trouble. Rating - 8. Samu Kerevi showed why Kuridrani isn't being picked with a great showing, looks to have serious potential, but prone to the odd misread in defense. Rating - 7.

    14. Jordan Larmour v Marika Koroibete. Larmour didn't see much of the ball but could open up in space, still question marks over his defence. Rating - 7. Koribete - Had decent game at weekend without setting the world alight, in fine Super rugby form. Rating - 7.

    15. Kearney v Folau - Kearney made elementary errors but were uncharacteristic of his game, expect a much improved performance. Rating - 7. Folau best full back in the world by a distance, incredible in the air and in attack. Rating - 9.

    Total Irish score - 119
    Total Australia score - 108.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭ ClanofLams


    Rory Best is Ireland’s best hooker. That’s why he’s been captain and you know, starting hooker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 603 umop episdn


    I think Beirne, if he starts, gets a game at lock


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭ slingerz


    I think Beirne, if he starts, gets a game at lock

    O'Mahony doesnt get dropped, the backrow will be POM, Leavy & Stander.

    Healy
    Cronin
    Furlong
    Henderson
    Ryan
    O'Mahony
    Leavy
    Stander
    Murray
    Sexton
    Stockdale
    Aki
    Ringrose
    Earls
    Kearney

    McGrath, Scannell, Porter, Beirne, Murphy, Cooney, Carbery, Henshaw


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭ fitz


    evil_seed wrote: »
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    And not a table in sight. Shocking.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭ stephen_n


    slingerz wrote: »
    O'Mahony doesnt get dropped, the backrow will be POM, Leavy & Stander.

    Healy
    Cronin
    Furlong
    Henderson
    Ryan
    O'Mahony
    Leavy
    Stander
    Murray
    Sexton
    Stockdale
    Aki
    Ringrose
    Earls
    Kearney

    McGrath, Scannell, Porter, Beirne, Murphy, Cooney, Carbery, Henshaw

    Earls is a doubt, might see Conway start there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,003 ✭✭✭✭ LuckyLloyd


    Hooper not up to his high standards recently? Eh, he looked pretty damn good on Saturday to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,961 ✭✭✭✭ Shefwedfan


    Did they announce the teams yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭ Squidgy Black


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Did they announce the teams yet?

    Only Tuesday, they won't be announced until Thursday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,961 ✭✭✭✭ Shefwedfan


    Only Tuesday, they won't be announced until Thursday.

    I know :D

    I dont understand the point of thread?

    Would it not be better on Thursday when the teams are announced?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,569 ✭✭✭✭ partyjungle


    Who pissed in everyone's cornflakes


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭ Squidgy Black


    Who pissed in everyone's cornflakes

    David Pocock. Appeared out of nowhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭ ironingbored


    Ireland

    15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 84 caps
    14. Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 6 caps
    13. Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 13 caps
    12. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 34 caps
    11. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 68 caps
    10. Johnny Sexton (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 74 caps
    9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 65 caps
    1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 79 caps
    2. Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) 7 caps
    3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 24 caps
    4. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 9 caps
    5. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 58 caps
    6. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 48 caps
    7. Dan Leavy (UCD/Leinster) 9 caps
    8. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 24 caps


    16. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 4 caps
    17. Jack McGrath (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 48 caps
    18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 7 caps
    19. Tadhg Beirne (Scarlets)*
    20. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster) 21 caps
    21. John Cooney (Terenure College/Ulster) 1 cap
    22. Joey Carbery (Clontarf/Leinster) 11 caps
    23. Jordan Larmour (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 4 caps


    Stockdale, Cronin, Bundee, Henderson dropped from the 23


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭ Jump_In_Jack


    Ireland

    15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 84 caps
    14. Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 6 caps
    13. Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 13 caps
    12. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 34 caps
    11. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 68 caps
    10. Johnny Sexton (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 74 caps
    9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 65 caps
    1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 79 caps
    2. Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) 7 caps
    3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 24 caps
    4. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 9 caps
    5. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 58 caps
    6. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 48 caps
    7. Dan Leavy (UCD/Leinster) 9 caps
    8. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 24 caps


    16. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 4 caps
    17. Jack McGrath (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 48 caps
    18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 7 caps
    19. Tadhg Beirne (Scarlets)*
    20. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster) 21 caps
    21. John Cooney (Terenure College/Ulster) 1 cap
    22. Joey Carbery (Clontarf/Leinster) 11 caps
    23. Jordan Larmour (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 4 caps


    Stockdale, Cronin, Bundee, Henderson dropped from the 23

    Also John Ryan, Roux, Marmion, Conan.
    And Ross Byrne the only player not to get selected so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,955 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    Prob mentioned here somewhere but Austraila are playing in the World cup at 11am too and I think there cricket team are in action too at the same time


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,307 ✭✭✭ Dave_The_Sheep


    So they're distracted is that what you're saying?


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 CantonaGod


    Sky ch 407 has the game


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,552 ✭✭✭✭ Pudsy33


    So we using this as the match thread then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 603 umop episdn


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    So we using this as the match thread then?

    Sure why not.. will you join me in a verse of Ireland's Call?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,045 ✭✭✭✭ vienne86


    Good few Irish fans there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭ Squidgy Black


    That was a bit more depressing than last week's introduction....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 603 umop episdn


    Can we not have the pissed aborigine again? He was fun


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,160 ✭✭✭✭ Larbre34


    That fla cant sing. At all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,599 ScrubsfanChris


    World rugby: Match will kick off at 11

    Australia: Sure mate


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭ Squidgy Black


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    That fla cant sing. At all.

    Kearney shot him a bit of a look there


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,822 ✭✭✭✭ ctrl-alt-delete


    Jesus talk about demotivating.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭ mangobob


    That was a bit more depressing than last week's introduction....

    Sombre might be a better word. But enjoyed it nonetheless. Not so sure about this bloke singing Irelands call though.......


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,220 ✭✭✭✭ Clegg


    Where did they find that lad?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭ Sanjuro


    That was an insult to our ****ty song.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,307 ✭✭✭ Dave_The_Sheep


    Ireland's Call is normally ****e but this is a whole new level of awful.


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