Do you ever keep to the speed limit?

Barney224

A quick question, and it's not intended as a gripe or posting for an argument.

I just wanted to know if any motor cyclists ever keep to the speed limit on our roads? As a car driver I don't think I've ever seen a motorcyclist stick to the limit!

listermint

It's framed as a gripe and an argument though

Seth Brundle

Barney224 wrote: »

A quick question, and it's not intended as a gripe or posting for an argument.

I just wanted to know if any motor cyclists ever keep to the speed limit on our roads? As a car driver I don't think I've ever seen a motorcyclist stick to the limit!

Most car drivers, myself included, don't stick to the posted speed limit!
What's your point?

Barney224

Sorry if is, but I'm still curious to know if any why they don't keep to the limit? I know a lot of cars don't either, but bikes appear to be more excessive with their speed.

Lumen

I apply the same respect for speed limits as I do when driving my car.

As a motorcyclist I don't think I've ever seen a car driver stick to the limit in flowing traffic without another load of car drivers tailgating the crap out of them.

Lumen

Barney224 wrote: »

Sorry if is, but I'm still curious to know if any why they don't keep to the limit? I know a lot of cars don't either, but bikes appear to be more excessive with their speed.

Because they're bad boys. Dangerous. Sexy.

Men want to be them, women pay no attention whatsoever.

Sonics2k

That's a limit? I always thought it was a target, and I aim to over achieve.

Bushmanpm

I see it as perception & performance.
When I'm in my car I'm constrained by other vehicles whilst watching bikes whizzing by, it feels the bikes are fast relative to my much slower speed. Equally, when I'm on my bike I find general traffic somewhat pedestrian and a little frustrating.
Also the performance, both engine and brakes need to be considered. My bike can out-accelerate AND out-brake virtually anything on four wheels yet the speed limit is the same for all vehicles.
I just ride/drive within my skills and prevailing circumstances....
....with an eye out for Dibble, cameras and idiots! ;-)

zubair

I have to admit I'm not impressed with this thread given you're not a regular motorbikes poster.

I'm not sure what outcome you expect by starting this thread but it's basically trolling our entire community.

Sonics2k

zubair wrote: »

I have to admit I'm not impressed with this thread given you're not a regular motorbikes poster.

I'm not sure what outcome you expect by starting this thread but it's basically trolling our entire community.

I mean, if I'm brutally honest I have seen some lads on bikes going insanely fast. This morning I got overtaken by a lad on racer going at least 100mph down the Ballincollig to Mahon duel-carriageway.

I'd tend to ride along at about 60mph to 75mph depending on the road and traffic.

dr.fuzzenstein

zubair wrote: »

I have to admit I'm not impressed with this thread given you're not a regular motorbikes poster.

I'm not sure what outcome you expect by starting this thread but it's basically trolling our entire community.

Just give the same answer that gets given on the motors forum.
"Yes, always, 100% of the time, Gard"

GBX

Yes - not always. Do you stick to all the rules of the road and limits or just in here to troll ? Because in every form of transport there are rule breakers. Are you one of them??? Or just here to point fingers ?

Bushmanpm

Bushmanpm wrote: »

I just ride/drive within my skills and prevailing circumstances....

While I'm no angel I can never understand this comment. You driving within your skills but above regular speeds can cause others accidents.

You should always accept that what you can do safely can impact on other users, who could expect you to lose control at a moment's notice and hit brakes, swerve, or generally panic.

Zascar

Speed limits don't apply to motorbikes. Look up the rules of the road, everyone knows this.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

You've never seen a motorbike keep to the limit because they are behind you... keeping to the limit.

It's too easy to pigeonhole road users, car drivers being the exception, they get grouped according to the brand of car they drive (Audi, BMW, Merc drivers never use indicators etc etc).

People are arseholes, mode of transport is irrelevant.

stewygriffin

Is the OP a troll who's never posted here before.??


Yes.

Zascar

Lets start another thread about how all cyclists are twats.

bladespin

Very rarely, do you know how difficult it is so stick to exactly the limit, virtually impossible, you'll drop to or go over by a kmh at some stage, I'd bet money on it.

Cienciano

Depends on the limit. Going into a town or village, yes. 30kph on motorway junctions or pretty much any 30kph, no. M50, no. Long journey on a motorway, yes. Short spin on motorway, no. 80kph along by the spa hotel, yes.

Nodster

I speed up for corners.....does that count?

In general I respect the speed limits - so many camera vans/checkpoints about Nth Dubland and keeping the licence points free!

arybvtcw0eolkf

Zascar wrote: »

Lets start another thread about how all cyclists are twats.

Hey watch it pal, I resemble that remark!.

Max Headroom

Best saying ever..." daddy..why are motorbikes always in a hurry"......:)......nuff said

AndrewJRenko

Zascar wrote: »

Lets start another thread about how all cyclists are twats.

Yeah, they might be twats, but they're not the twats with 100% breaking the speed limits (motorcyclists) or the twats with 82% breaking the speed limits (motorists) in the RSA Speed Survey.

Wailin

No they're just the twats who are 79% breaking red lights.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Zascar wrote: »

Lets start another thread about how all cyclists are twats.

Get ta fuk...

bladespin

AndrewJRenko wrote:

Yeah, they might be twats, but they're not the twats with 100% breaking the speed limits (motorcyclists) or the twats with 82% breaking the speed limits (motorists) in the RSA Speed Survey.

Yeah but that survey was complete manure.

If you want competition then cyclists have to be in contention for red light breaking but that's another thread lol.

GBX

Surveys and stats can be spun to suit the agenda. They look for any angle to put down motorcycles

bladespin

Survey sez riders are more honest than car drivers.

AndrewJRenko

Wailin wrote: »

No they're just the twats who are 79% breaking red lights.

Funnily enough, the Luas red light cameras found that 88% of red light jumpers were motorists, not cyclists - but if you do have any other interest stats to bring to the party, please get them on the table - with details of your sources please.

bladespin wrote: »

Yeah but that survey was complete manure.

For any particular reason, other than you not liking the results?

bladespin wrote: »

If you want competition then cyclists have to be in contention for red light breaking but that's another thread lol.

Sure - let's discuss these stats on that other thread. lol.

http://kerrycyclingcampaign.org/but-all-drivers-break-the-lights/

AndrewJRenko

bladespin wrote: »

Survey sez riders are more honest than car drivers.

The RSA survey doesn't ask people about their driving/riding. They put speed cameras out and measure speed.

bladespin

AndrewJRenko wrote:

For any particular reason, other than you not liking the results?

Yes actually, did you take it? Questions for bike ruders were quite obviously leading, not hard to know what the findings would be before completing it. Also I find it hard to put any weight on these kinds of survey as they don't tend to be treated seriously and are answered as such.
As for liking the result or not, I fell firmly in the 'meh' category, tbh everyone including my granny has exceeded the speed limit at some stage, I've done it on my bike and every single day in the car.

bladespin

AndrewJRenko wrote:

The RSA survey doesn't ask people about their driving/riding. They put speed cameras out and measure speed.

How many bikes/cars/cyclists are caught by these cameras?
Any numbers?

bladespin

Nah, lets not, no interest in anything to do with bicycles tbh.

AndrewJRenko

bladespin wrote: »

Yes actually, did you take it? Questions for bike ruders were quite obviously leading, not hard to know what the findings would be before completing it. Also I find it hard to put any weight on these kinds of survey as they don't tend to be treated seriously and are answered as such.
As for liking the result or not, I fell firmly in the 'meh' category, tbh everyone including my granny has exceeded the speed limit at some stage, I've done it on my bike and every single day in the car.

The RSA Speed Survey isn't a survey that you take. There are no questions.

They put out speed cameras and measure speed of trucks, cars and motor bikes.

AndrewJRenko

bladespin wrote: »

How many bikes/cars/cyclists are caught by these cameras?
Any numbers?

All the numbers are on the RSA website if you like to have a look. From memory, I don't think they count cyclists in the speed survey, possible because speed limits don't apply to cyclists.

bladespin

AndrewJRenko wrote:

The RSA Speed Survey isn't a survey that you take. There are no questions.

Ah thought you were referring to their motocycle survey, they do so many, kinda suggests they don't have much faith in them.

AndrewJRenko wrote:

They put out speed cameras and measure speed of trucks, cars and motor bikes.

Ah here, that's blatant discrimination against cyclists, lets draw up a survey!

bladespin

AndrewJRenko wrote:

From memory, I don't think they count cyclists in the speed survey, possible because speed limits don't apply to cyclists.

Lol good joke

Barney224

Barney224 wrote: »

A quick question, and it's not intended as a gripe or posting for an argument.

I just wanted to know if any motor cyclists ever keep to the speed limit on our roads? As a car driver I don't think I've ever seen a motorcyclist stick to the limit!

If you’ve never seen a motorcyclist stick to the speed limit, then you are not a very observant driver

bladespin

Deleted User wrote:

If you’ve never seen a motorcyclist stick to the speed limit, then you are not a very observant driver

Probably too busy googling surveys on the phone.

AndrewJRenko

bladespin wrote: »

Ah thought you were referring to their motocycle survey, they do so many, kinda suggests they don't have much faith in them.

They do their 'free speed survey every year, or most years in recent years. I guess it is a standard international methodology, as I see the UK govt do something similar too.

bladespin wrote: »

Lol good joke

What's the joke?

bladespin

AndrewJRenko wrote:

They do their 'free speed survey every year, or most years in recent years. I guess it is a standard international methodology, as I see the UK govt do something similar too.

Out of interest, how many motorcycles were surveyed? 100% certainly suggests a low sample rate.

AndrewJRenko

bladespin wrote: »

Out of interest, how many motorcycles were surveyed? 100% certainly suggests a low sample rate.

Like I said above, all the numbers are on the RSA website if you like to have a look.

bladespin

AndrewJRenko wrote:

Like I said above, all the numbers are on the RSA website if you like to have a look.

Nah, lost me already, rather watch paint dry than the rsa web****e.

Barney224

Barney224 wrote: »

A quick question, and it's not intended as a gripe or posting for an argument.

I just wanted to know if any motor cyclists ever keep to the speed limit on our roads? As a car driver I don't think I've ever seen a motorcyclist stick to the limit!

No , never. Not in a car or a bike. Drive whatever speed I feel I think is suitable

Eg N11 cabinteely to UCD what's the speed limit 50? It should be 100, it's a good quality road with no pedestrians so I drive 100 in a car or on a bike makes no difference to me what I'm driving

Wailin

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Funnily enough, the Luas red light cameras found that 88% of red light jumpers were motorists, not cyclists - but if you do have any other interest stats to bring to the party, please get them on the table - with details of your sources please.

No source, just pulled those figures out of my arse. Statistics are bull**** most of the time anyway. People act the dicks in all walks of life so it breaks even in the end.

Del2005

bladespin wrote: »

Lol good joke

No speed limits or CUI for cyclists. So you can
cycle at 60km/h full to the gills down O'Connell and nothing can be done to you.

MSVforever

What response do you expect?

Regardless of mode of transport I can guarantee you that there is not 1 person who sticks to the speed limit all the time in this country (including myself).

Max Headroom

MSVforever wrote: »

What response do you expect?

Regardless of mode of transport I can guarantee you that there is not 1 person who sticks to the speed limit all the time in this country (including myself).

My wife does.......much to my annoyance...:P

arybvtcw0eolkf

I've a 500km round trip from Dublin to Galway to buy a CBR600RR this evening, you can bet you fooking life speed limits will be broken on the way home lol

Max Headroom

Nehemiah Lazy Wallpaper wrote: »

I've a 500km round trip from Dublin to Galway to buy a CBR600RR this evening, you can bet you fooking life speed limits will be broken on the way home lol

Hope its worth it for a "G" plate..................:P

AndrewJRenko

Wailin wrote: »

No source, just pulled those figures out of my arse. Statistics are bull**** most of the time anyway. People act the dicks in all walks of life so it breaks even in the end.

People do indeed act like dicks on the road, cyclists, motorists, motorbikers, pedestrians. But I'm not so sure about the 'all breaks even in the end bit'. It's not cyclists who are killing 3 or 4 people each week on the roads and maiming many more.