Sexual attacks and harassemnt in Limerick

Edson122

Hi, so i'm going to Limerick pretty much in September, and I'm taking my wife with me, we are from Zurich and I have been read a lot about this kind of attacks in Limerick mostly by Brazilians womans, "my wife is Brazilian"  they say that it happens very often and even when they report to the gardai nothing happens, places like the walking trail in the University of Limerick are not safe and they are usualy walking in groups of 6 or more young mans, and looks like this is "normal" wtf? is that true? is that dangerous? I mean i was on Instagram the last Sunday and this lady made a video of a recent attack went to the gardai and guess what? nothing.

so I pretty much wanna hear it from locals? Is it that happening often?

testicles

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Vinnie222

Also never heard of it

jaxxx

I'd love to know where you're getting that information from. Questionable source to say the least.

banie01

Never heard of it either.
Care to share the source?

Edson122

banie01 wrote: »

Never heard of it either.
Care to share the source?

yeah sure, @brunamazzer is her Instagram


Well, glad to know from the locals that it's not like that

Avatar MIA

Is this clickbait?

Rackstar

Edson122 wrote: »

yeah sure, @brunamazzer is her Instagram


Well, glad to know from the locals that it's not like that

Had a look at the insta, if yer wan was chocolate she'd eat herself.

SNNUS

she is a Travel Influencer seemingly.. Have you ever heard of such sh1te.

jaxxx

SNNUS wrote: »

she is a Travel Influencer seemingly.. Have you ever heard of such sh1te.

She probably couldn't even pick out the island if she was handed a world map, let alone a specific city.

SNNUS

jaxxx wrote: »

She probably couldn't even pick out the island if she was handed a world map, let alone a specific city.

My job is instagram.. And all photos are of herself.. self indulgent nonsense

lawred2

Lol

What a load of shoite

Mongfinder General

Never heard of it. The bigger question is why on earth are you moving to Limerick?

Edson122

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Never heard of it. The bigger question is why on earth are you moving to Limerick?

University of Limerick, lol

jaxxx

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Never heard of it. The bigger question is why on earth are you moving to Limerick?

For the shoppi.... Umm. For the public transp..... Hmm. For the affordable accom.... Errr. For donkey fords? Ok we'll go with Donkey Fords.

jacksie66

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Vladimir Poontang

A brazilian worried about safety in Limerick? (the instagram yoke not the Op)

Miike

Yeah I'm going to say that's complete horse ****. There is an enormous Brazilian Community in Limerick of which I have friends that are part of it. I've never heard such nonsense in my life.

SNNUS

Let's face it she has demonstrated that she needs lots of attention.

Tefral

OP, if you knew Limerick, any fella would be crazy to try attack a girl in Limerick. Most of the women living here would kick the head off anyone that tried attacking them!

All joking aside though, honestly, this isn't a thing. Limerick is no more dangerous than another city.

For example according to the CSO in last quarter 2017 there was 32 reported crimes under the heading sexual offences in Limerick. There was 55 in Cork, over 250 in Dublin and 25 in Galway.

You can check it yourself here https://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?maintable=cjq03

Mc Love

jaxxx wrote: »

For the shoppi.... Umm. For the public transp..... Hmm. For the affordable accom.... Errr. For donkey fords? Ok we'll go with Donkey Fords.

I wouldnt bother if thats the only reason

Edson122

Thnx for the answers guys, I didn't want to pass any judgment before talking with locals, I figured she likes some attention and maybe is exaggerating,  a Brazilian worried about safety in Limerick its kind of a joke, I guess when they go to Europe, they think its like the land of Honey and Milk 100%  safety with good and polite people everywhere which there is some kind of truth to it if you compare with third world countries but its not perfect, she honeslty made my wife think that as normal thing and no ones do nothing. Again tnx for the answers

boege

I work at the University of Limerick. We would generally hear about attacks in the environs of the campus as this would be communicated on to the students, but I have not seen any such notices in a long time.

The track by the river was upgraded a few years ago and is now a very popular amenity in Limerick with circuit training equipment installed along the way.

Limerick had its problems in the past (10 years or more) but there was a strong initiative by the city working with the guards (police) to manage crime and its a different city now.

As a BTW, I dont know how anyone would know your wife is from Brazil. Ireland is fairly multicultural at this stage.

panda100

Absolutely there is sexual harrasment in Limerick, as there is everywhere. The street harassment is certainly not remotely close to the harassment women get in mainland Europe but it does exist. I have many friends from other parts of the world living here and it certainly does seem to be an issue especially for younger women.

As I said women experience sexual harassment here as they do in most cities they travel. My experience is that it is not a significant issue and certainly should not deter you from moving to our wonderful city.

tanit

Tefral wrote: »

OP, if you knew Limerick, any fella would be crazy to try attack a girl in Limerick. Most of the women living here would kick the head off anyone that tried attacking them!

All joking aside though, honestly, this isn't a thing. Limerick is no more dangerous than another city.

For example according to the CSO in last quarter 2017 there was 32 reported crimes under the heading sexual offences in Limerick. There was 55 in Cork, over 250 in Dublin and 25 in Galway.

You can check it yourself here https://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?maintable=cjq03

I really don't want to add more wood to the fire but absolute figures are very misleading and when you compare things you have to compare like with like. Using relative numbers and percentages helps to get a better picture.

These are the population figures I could find in a quick search in Internet along with the reported offences above and respective percentages:

Dublin Population 1,173,179 Crime 250 Percentage 0.0213%
Cork Poppulation 208,669 Crime 55 Percentage 0.0264%
Limerick Population 94,192 Crime 32 Percentage 0.0340%
Galway Population 79,934 Crime 25 Percentage 0.0313%

So either something is wrong with figures above or there is a huge discrepancy between Dublin and Limerick when you take into account total population numbers. From the percentage point of view and considering population numbers Limerick has always had a huge problem with crime. It has certainly improved in recent years and the girl looks like it's trying to get attention (without having checked her feed in detail I cannot be sure) but the numbers and the figures do not exactly paint a beautiful picture for Limerick.

I'm open to proper debate, but the reality is that Limerick had had major crime issues and still has them when you compare them with other parts of the country

zulutango

I know of one sexual assault on the river path. It was at the lower end of the scale. A group of young teenagers grabbed a girl who was cycling along. She told them to **** off and that was the end of it. It's probably no more than some idiots looking for a reaction but it's very serious nonetheless. Nobody should think they have the right to do that.

Avatar MIA

tanit wrote: »

I really don't want to add more wood to the fire but absolute figures are very misleading and when you compare things you have to compare like with like. Using relative numbers and percentages helps to get a better picture.

These are the population figures I could find in a quick search in Internet along with the reported offences above and respective percentages:

Dublin Population 1,173,179 Crime 250 Percentage 0.0213%
Cork Poppulation 208,669 Crime 55 Percentage 0.0264%
Limerick Population 94,192 Crime 32 Percentage 0.0340%
Galway Population 79,934 Crime 25 Percentage 0.0313%

So either something is wrong with figures above or there is a huge discrepancy between Dublin and Limerick when you take into account total population numbers. From the percentage point of view and considering population numbers Limerick has always had a huge problem with crime. It has certainly improved in recent years and the girl looks like it's trying to get attention (without having checked her feed in detail I cannot be sure) but the numbers and the figures do not exactly paint a beautiful picture for Limerick.

I'm open to proper debate, but the reality is that Limerick had had major crime issues and still has them when you compare them with other parts of the country

Didn't the CSO stop taking garda input as it was too unreliable.

tanit

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Didn't the CSO stop taking garda input as it was too unreliable.

The statics come from here https://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?maintable=cjq03 so someone is reporting them and very recently, last figures are from 2017 last quarter of the year. Reporting exists and the CSO considers them reliable enough to continue using them.

Just wondering why the garda would provide unreliable information about crimes in Ireland?

Cookiemunster

tanit wrote: »

The statics come from here https://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?maintable=cjq03 so someone is reporting them and very recently, last figures are from 2017 last quarter of the year. Reporting exists and the CSO considers them reliable enough to continue using them.

Just wondering why the garda would provide unreliable information about crimes in Ireland?

That link has a big red banner with the following:-

Statistics Under Reservation

These statistics are categorised as Under Reservation. This categorisation indicates that the quality of these statistics do not meet the standards required of official statistics published by CSO.


Surely you noticed that?

tanit

Cookiemunster wrote: »

That link has a big red banner with the following:-

Statistics Under Reservation

These statistics are categorised as Under Reservation. This categorisation indicates that the quality of these statistics do not meet the standards required of official statistics published by CSO.


Surely you noticed that?

A government body wouldn't publish something that they think it's wildly wrong. Otherwise they would be spreading rumours. They have to be sufficiently good for them to publish
I honestly don't know about the standards the CSO have but if they are publishing them they have to be very close to those standards it makes no sense they are publishing something that is very far away from reality.

It would be very worrying to actually know that they are actually publishing something that is very far away from reality. Are they trying to distort public perception of certain parts of Ireland? Some kind of regional discrimination?

Now the second question is why the reporting does not meet the standards for the CSO. Are the garda not providing that information? Is the information they provide incomplete? Why the CSO cannot find adequate information in Ireland regarding these issues that complies with their strict guidelines?

Cookiemunster

tanit wrote: »

A government body wouldn't publish something that they think it's wildly wrong. Otherwise they would be spreading rumours. They have to be sufficiently good for them to publish
I honestly don't know about the standards the CSO have but if they are publishing them they have to be very close to those standards it makes no sense they are publishing something that is very far away from reality.

It would be very worrying to actually know that they are actually publishing something that is very far away from reality. Are they trying to distort public perception of certain parts of Ireland? Some kind of regional discrimination?

Now the second question is why the reporting does not meet the standards for the CSO. Are the garda not providing that information? Is the information they provide incomplete? Why the CSO cannot find adequate information in Ireland regarding these issues that complies with their strict guidelines?

Well if they've a big banner stating that the deem the statistics not to be 100% reliable, then obviously they do publish things that could be wildly wrong.

And here is one of the many easily googled articles about the CSO not trusting Garda crime statistics. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/cso-postpones-publishing-garda-crime-data-again-1.3213448

tanit

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Well if they've a big banner stating that the deem the statistics not to be 100% reliable, then obviously they do publish things that could be wildly wrong.

So what you are saying is that the CSO is starting some kind of rumour campaign making wildly wrong statements about criminality in Ireland that may be discriminatory from the regional point of view.

tanit

And why would the CSO do such a thing?


EDIT:
And in the article above they are talking about unreported homicide figures not sexual crimes and more importantly delaying publishing figures, it kind of looks like they are saying those figures are incomplete but that if you wait long enough they would kind of be complete

Cookiemunster

tanit wrote: »

So what you are saying is that the CSO is starting some kind of rumour campaign making wildly wrong statements about criminality in Ireland that may be discriminatory from the regional point of view.

No I'm quite obviously stating that the CSO have put statistics on their site with a disclaimer that they may not be accurate. No rumours there, just fact.

Cookiemunster

tanit wrote: »

And why would the CSO do such a thing?

Maybe you might try asking the CSO.

tanit

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Maybe you might try asking the CSO.

I could tell you the same you seem to have more issues with their statistics than me.

I'm of the opinion that they are going to be 90% okay, you seem to believe that there's more difference than that and those statistics should be completely dismissed.
It looks to me that the one with bigger issues with the CSO is you not me. I consider them to be 90% accurate and the mistake to be equally distribute around Ireland.

Do you have any reason to believe that could be incorrect and there is some kind of regional discrimination in the reporting done by the Garda?
Like figures to be wildly wrong for Limerick and not just an issue of classification of homicides in the wrong category as per the article you have posted

It emerged at the meeting that 41 homicides between 2013 and 2015 were reviewed because Garda analysts found some form of classification issue with them. Some murders committed in a domestic setting were classified as non-fatal offences against the person.

The 89 homicides that were not counted in the homicide data occurred between 2003 and May 2017. All of them were cases of dangerous driving causing death.

I cannot find anything in the article about huge discrepancies between regions or anything mentioning issues with regions in Ireland.

Open to know more about it if you know. Do please add it.

To be honest with you, it looks to me that they have concerns, the data they have is sufficiently good to be published (otherwise as they have done other times they would have not published it) and they have the warning that is not 100% good but is good enough as they have published it. It has to be very close to 100% because in previous occasions they didn't even publish it.

Considering the level of population in Dublin the reality is that the discrepancies between Limerick and the rest of the country have been for decades beyond belief. And as I said before things have changed in recent years (I still fondly remember the army patrolling the streets for a few days I think it was in 2003, and it wasn't a parade) but it's still tragic. And people denying the issue is not helping at all.

This is just the tragic reality

Cookiemunster

You've seriously gone down a rabbit hole. You claimed that the statistics were 100% accurate. I pointed out that the CSO themselves have stated that there is a doubt to their veracity. I've gone no further than that.

As to the article I pointed out that it was one of many easily googled about the CSO's issues with Garda statistics. I'd suggest you do that, seeing as it was you who asked why the CSO had issues with those stats.

And as for fondly remembering the army on the streets? You're dreaming there mate.

Silentcorner

tanit wrote: »

A government body wouldn't publish something that they think it's wildly wrong. Otherwise they would be spreading rumours. They have to be sufficiently good for them to publish
I honestly don't know about the standards the CSO have but if they are publishing them they have to be very close to those standards it makes no sense they are publishing something that is very far away from reality.

It would be very worrying to actually know that they are actually publishing something that is very far away from reality. Are they trying to distort public perception of certain parts of Ireland? Some kind of regional discrimination?

Now the second question is why the reporting does not meet the standards for the CSO. Are the garda not providing that information? Is the information they provide incomplete? Why the CSO cannot find adequate information in Ireland regarding these issues that complies with their strict guidelines?

Mate, not trying to be funny here, but you've dug a hole for yourself...stop digging.

There is obviously a deeply flawed culture within an Garda Siochana when it comes to producing stats, with some regions worse than others, it is that simple.

You and people just like you are just as deluded as the people who deny the existence of any crime...

rebs23

Cookiemunster wrote: »

You've seriously gone down a rabbit hole. You claimed that the statistics were 100% accurate. I pointed out that the CSO themselves have stated that there is a doubt to their veracity. I've gone no further than that.

As to the article I pointed out that it was one of many easily googled about the CSO's issues with Garda statistics. I'd suggest you do that, seeing as it was you who asked why the CSO had issues with those stats.

And as for fondly remembering the army on the streets? You're dreaming there mate.

The only question mark in relation to the CSO statistics is in relation to Homicide offenses nationally.
It really doesn't affect regional comparisons in any way. Bit of a silly discussion really since the OP was a bit ott anyway.

rebs23

Silentcorner wrote: »

Mate, not trying to be funny here, but you've dug a hole for yourself...stop digging.

There is obviously a deeply flawed culture within an Garda Siochana when it comes to producing stats, with some regions worse than others, it is that simple.

You and people just like you are just as deluded as the people who deny the existence of any crime...

All he did in fairness was put up the CSO stats. The Homicide stats nationally are the stats that are subject to questions and not any other category of crime. Never heard that Gardai in Limerick are inflating their crime stats, seriously that seems a bit far fetched even more so than the original post in this thread!

Silentcorner

rebs23 wrote: »

All he did in fairness was put up the CSO stats. The Homicide stats nationally are the stats that are subject to questions and not any other category of crime. Never heard that Gardai in Limerick are inflating their crime stats, seriously that seems a bit far fetched even more so than the original post in this thread!

What about the million and a half fake breathalyser tests? We have no way of knowing if any other stats are inaccurate, but we can take the word of the CSO who have taken the highly unusual step of issuing a warning about their accuracy...the accuracy of our National Crime Stats are a huge problem, it is a much bigger problem than Limericks perceived crime issues...

The poster I quoted is ignoring that warning and claiming some of us are in denial...

tanit

Silentcorner wrote: »

Mate, not trying to be funny here, but you've dug a hole for yourself...stop digging.

There is obviously a deeply flawed culture within an Garda Siochana when it comes to producing stats, with some regions worse than others, it is that simple.

You and people just like you are just as deluded as the people who deny the existence of any crime...

Okay lets say for argument sake there is a flawed culture in Garda Siochana, if that is true it would affect the overall country, so me comparing Limerick with Dublin and not London would be comparing like with like and we are in a situation were the figures can be used to compare statistics within the country.

Otherwise we have a different scenario: the manipulation of figures is something that only affects Limerick and there is some kind of campaign by the Garda, CSO, newspapers, etc to distort the public image of Limerick and the region in general. Do you have any facts to say that indeed there is a campaign by the rest of the country to actually distort the image of Limerick and Limerick only? The army coming down in 2003 never happened, and the several times the Rapid Response Unit has been brought down has also never happened, etc

I never stated the figures by the CSO were 100%. Someone else brought them to the thread, I used relative percentages to compare them with other cities in Ireland and that is what has created the debate, the sudden realisation that the situation in Limerick is not what it looks. That's what you don't like and it's not helping. As I said before the situation over the years has changed and improved but is not as clean and pretty as they may want you to believe. If you don't like it, that's okay but denying the problem doesn't solve it and it's there and will continue to be there.

The figures may be flawed but the most likely scenario is that they are 90% correct. When the CSO has had previously major concerns about them they didn't even published them. Use them to compare within the country is fairly accurate

So when they have published them it's because they have reasonable assurance about them, they are including a warning. And it's also reasonable to believe that the error, misclassification occurs all around the country in the same way. The article indicates that it's an incorrect classification problem not flat out manipulation. There is nothing in the article about the issue of breathalyser test or that things like that are affecting the figures. As far as I know that issue should have been corrected on those statistics. And in any case my original comparative was about sexual crimes not homicides or breathalysers.

Basically what you are just saying is that you don't like what you are reading, poor Limerick is mistreated and discriminated by the rest of the country and I'm wrong. Burying your head under the sand it's not going to change the fact that there is a problem, and in fact more than likely is going to make the problem worse

I also said that the girl might be trying to get some clickbait with those statements but without reading in detail through her Instagram I could not be sure.

We are at stage that you don't like the comparative, the whole thing might become personal and not a proper debate and I have completely lost all my interest in the thread as it's effectively proving some of the points raised. Denying the situation is not going to change it or solve it. But it says a lot about why things happen and they continue happening over and over again, and it's a great example for others to follow which adds more fuel to the fire in this forum and outside this forum.

A last thought lets all remember what Mr Trump is accomplishing with that attitude in America, denying things that he doesn't like, flat out lying, manipulating and how that wonderful example is being replicated in the streets with wonderful results.

I don't have a good opinion of the garda but I genuinely don't believe they or anyone else is systematically and specifically targeting Limerick and the region and if there are mistakes they spread equally all around the country

Avatar MIA

rebs23 wrote: »

All he did in fairness was put up the CSO stats. The Homicide stats nationally are the stats that are subject to questions and not any other category of crime. Never heard that Gardai in Limerick are inflating their crime stats, seriously that seems a bit far fetched even more so than the original post in this thread!

Weren't they reclassifying homicide statistics. And if they under/over represented one crime there would be a knock on effect on the other crime, either under or over represented.

And if they did that with the homicide figures how can you trust the other info they submit? Take another example, the auld breathalyser tests.

Seriously, now that I've your attention, I've got this bridge going cheap.

Silentcorner

tanit wrote: »

Okay lets say for argument sake there is a flawed culture in Garda Siochana, if that is true it would affect the overall country, so me comparing Limerick with Dublin and not London would be comparing like with like and we are in a situation were the figures can be used to compare statistics within the country.

Otherwise we have a different scenario: the manipulation of figures is something that only affects Limerick and there is some kind of campaign by the Garda, CSO, newspapers, etc to distort the public image of Limerick and the region in general. Do you have any facts to say that indeed there is a campaign by the rest of the country to actually distort the image of Limerick and Limerick only? The army coming down in 2003 never happened, and the several times the Rapid Response Unit has been brought down has also never happened, etc

I never stated the figures by the CSO were 100%. Someone else brought them to the thread, I used relative percentages to compare them with other cities in Ireland and that is what has created the debate, the sudden realisation that the situation in Limerick is not what it looks. That's what you don't like and it's not helping. As I said before the situation over the years has changed and improved but is not as clean and pretty as they may want you to believe. If you don't like it, that's okay but denying the problem doesn't solve it and it's there and will continue to be there.

The figures may be flawed but the most likely scenario is that they are 90% correct. When the CSO has had previously major concerns about them they didn't even published them. Use them to compare within the country is fairly accurate

So when they have published them it's because they have reasonable assurance about them, they are including a warning. And it's also reasonable to believe that the error, misclassification occurs all around the country in the same way. The article indicates that it's an incorrect classification problem not flat out manipulation. There is nothing in the article about the issue of breathalyser test or that things like that are affecting the figures. As far as I know that issue should have been corrected on those statistics. And in any case my original comparative was about sexual crimes not homicides or breathalysers.

Basically what you are just saying is that you don't like what you are reading, poor Limerick is mistreated and discriminated by the rest of the country and I'm wrong. Burying your head under the sand it's not going to change the fact that there is a problem, and in fact more than likely is going to make the problem worse

I also said that the girl might be trying to get some clickbait with those statements but without reading in detail through her Instagram I could not be sure.

We are at stage that you don't like the comparative, the whole thing might become personal and not a proper debate and I have completely lost all my interest in the thread as it's effectively proving some of the points raised. Denying the situation is not going to change it or solve it. But it says a lot about why things happen and they continue happening over and over again, and it's a great example for others to follow which adds more fuel to the fire in this forum and outside this forum.

A last thought lets all remember what Mr Trump is accomplishing with that attitude in America, denying things that he doesn't like, flat out lying, manipulating and how that wonderful example is being replicated in the streets with wonderful results.

I don't have a good opinion of the garda but I genuinely don't believe they or anyone else is systematically and specifically targeting Limerick and the region and if there are mistakes they spread equally all around the country

By your own twisted use of populations and stats Galway has a far greater crime problem than Dublin...

Stick to your colouring books mate...

Sore_toe

tanit wrote: »

Okay lets say for argument sake there is a flawed culture in Garda Siochana, if that is true it would affect the overall country, so me comparing Limerick with Dublin and not London would be comparing like with like and we are in a situation were the figures can be used to compare statistics within the country.

Otherwise we have a different scenario: the manipulation of figures is something that only affects Limerick and there is some kind of campaign by the Garda, CSO, newspapers, etc to distort the public image of Limerick and the region in general. Do you have any facts to say that indeed there is a campaign by the rest of the country to actually distort the image of Limerick and Limerick only? The army coming down in 2003 never happened, and the several times the Rapid Response Unit has been brought down has also never happened, etc

I never stated the figures by the CSO were 100%. Someone else brought them to the thread, I used relative percentages to compare them with other cities in Ireland and that is what has created the debate, the sudden realisation that the situation in Limerick is not what it looks. That's what you don't like and it's not helping. As I said before the situation over the years has changed and improved but is not as clean and pretty as they may want you to believe. If you don't like it, that's okay but denying the problem doesn't solve it and it's there and will continue to be there.

The figures may be flawed but the most likely scenario is that they are 90% correct. When the CSO has had previously major concerns about them they didn't even published them. Use them to compare within the country is fairly accurate

So when they have published them it's because they have reasonable assurance about them, they are including a warning. And it's also reasonable to believe that the error, misclassification occurs all around the country in the same way. The article indicates that it's an incorrect classification problem not flat out manipulation. There is nothing in the article about the issue of breathalyser test or that things like that are affecting the figures. As far as I know that issue should have been corrected on those statistics. And in any case my original comparative was about sexual crimes not homicides or breathalysers.

Basically what you are just saying is that you don't like what you are reading, poor Limerick is mistreated and discriminated by the rest of the country and I'm wrong. Burying your head under the sand it's not going to change the fact that there is a problem, and in fact more than likely is going to make the problem worse

I also said that the girl might be trying to get some clickbait with those statements but without reading in detail through her Instagram I could not be sure.

We are at stage that you don't like the comparative, the whole thing might become personal and not a proper debate and I have completely lost all my interest in the thread as it's effectively proving some of the points raised. Denying the situation is not going to change it or solve it. But it says a lot about why things happen and they continue happening over and over again, and it's a great example for others to follow which adds more fuel to the fire in this forum and outside this forum.

A last thought lets all remember what Mr Trump is accomplishing with that attitude in America, denying things that he doesn't like, flat out lying, manipulating and how that wonderful example is being replicated in the streets with wonderful results.

I don't have a good opinion of the garda but I genuinely don't believe they or anyone else is systematically and specifically targeting Limerick and the region and if there are mistakes they spread equally all around the country

Does Limerick not have a higher traveller population than other cities relative to population? , not PC but would explain the higher rate

Glenomra

Give us your figures and don't be speculating.

Sore_toe

Glenomra wrote: »

Give us your figures and don't be speculating.

I'm asking not speculating, tralee has a large traveller population, it has a lot of crime for a town of its size, I like Limerick but was asking if it had a relatively large traveller population?

Glenomra

If you had done a little research you would have discovered that Galway City has three and a half times the percentage of travellers that Limerick City has.

Sore_toe

Glenomra wrote: »

If you had done a little research you would have discovered that Galway City has three and a half times the percentage of travellers that Limerick City has.

The county of Galway undoubtedly has a much larger traveller population but that's due to the huge number in tuam and ballinasloe, the city itself would have less travellers than Limerick city by a distance, I mean isn't St Mary's Park nearly all settled travellers?

Glenomra

I never mentioned Galway county. Galway CITY has three and a half times the percentage of travellers that Limerick city has. And St. Marys park is comprised of virtually all indigenous city families. Why don't you deal with facts not hearsay.

Sore_toe

Glenomra wrote: »

I never mentioned Galway county. Galway CITY has three and a half times the percentage of travellers that Limerick city has. And St. Marys park is comprised of virtually all indigenous city families. Why don't you deal with facts not hearsay.

I wasn't attacking Limerick, I like the place and my wife is from there, was just posing a question