Can a settled person become a "traveller" ?

Dr Brown

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.


If I turned up to social welfare and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they set me up as one ?

megaten

Dr Brown wrote: »

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.


If I turned up to social welfate and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they set me up as one ?

Try it out and tell us how you get on OP.

Grayson

No. they'd classify you as a dick.

Suckit

Strip a length of copper wire with your fingernails in under 30 seconds and you might qualify for the qualifiers.

Seth Brundle

Do you fancy your cousin OP?

chrissb8

Send a callout video to the taxman with you punching a bag and talking about how you'll not be paying anymore tax for s**e in a bucket.

JMNolan

Are travellers for or against abortion?

sbsquarepants

end of the road will be able to hook you up with someone who can sort it for you.
Don't stress OP, in the mean time empty your wheelie bin all over your back garden, put on a vest and drink a few cans, maybe tie up a dog or give your missus a slap or two, you know, get a feel for it.

wexie

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Don't stress OP, in the mean time empty your wheelie bin all over your back garden, .

Wrong!!

OP don't listen to Spongebob.

Set fire to your wheeliebin, it's the proper way

sbsquarepants

My bad - it's a steep learning curve:D

Hilly Bill

Are travellers unsettled?

Hector Savage

Maybe start up your own fly tippin' business, you can collect all your neighbours rubbish for €5 a hosehold and then just dump it on the roadside a few miles away ...

Colonel Claptrap

JMNolan wrote: »

Are travellers for or against abortion?

Hugely against.

Newstalk did a piece on it last week. Very interesting interviews.

Traveller devotion to Catholicism is remarkable and a little scary.

Gravelly

Dr Brown wrote: »

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.


If I turned up to social welfare and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they set me up as one ?

You're doing it all wrong - travellers don't ask, they demand.

Seth Brundle

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Traveller devotion to Catholicism is remarkable and a little scary.

It's selective Catholicism. Many of them tend to ignore the seventh commandment!

Hector Savage

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Hugely against.

Newstalk did a piece on it last week. Very interesting interviews.

Traveller devotion to Catholicism is remarkable and a little scary.

scary yes and unbelievably hypocritical..

Yer Da sells Avon

Dr Brown wrote: »

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.


If I turned up to social welfare and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they set me up as one ?

Would you be prepared to take the lower life expectancy too?

degsie

Not sure if there is a medical procedure to remove the brain part that allows for empathy towards suffering animals, but I'd start there.

Dr Brown

Seth Brundle wrote: »

It's selective Catholicism. Many of them tend to ignore the seventh commandment!

They are only Cultural Catholics.

I have a relation whos a priest and he said that the traveller kids never turn up for any of preparations for holy communion.

TheValeyard

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Do you fancy your cousin OP?

Well, his cousin is hot

Ipso

Dr Brown wrote: »

They are only Cultural Catholics.

I have a relation whos a priest and he said that the traveller kids never turn up for any of preparations for holy communion.

Aren’t most Irish people cultural Catholics?

Also I think travellers are very big into the apparitions (eye issueswhen you stare at the sun for too long)..

Colonel Claptrap

D'ya like dags?

Peatys

Dr Brown wrote: »

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.


If I turned up to social welfare and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they set me up as one ?

Don't go balls deep straight away. Become a "settled traveller" first.

That way you still get all the good bits, (no tax, expectations etc), but you don't have to go camping 12 months of the year.

Peatys

JMNolan wrote: »

Are travellers for or against abortion?

Depends on who's doing it

Grayson

sbsquarepants wrote: »

end of the road will be able to hook you up with someone who can sort it for you.
Don't stress OP, in the mean time empty your wheelie bin all over your back garden, put on a vest and drink a few cans, maybe tie up a dog or give your missus a slap or two, you know, get a feel for it.

He said traveller, not northsider.

sbsquarepants

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Hugely against.

Newstalk did a piece on it last week. Very interesting interviews.

Traveller devotion to Catholicism is remarkable and a little scary.

Eh, Thou shalt NOT steal.

Peatys

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Hugely against.

Newstalk did a piece on it last week. Very interesting interviews.

Traveller devotion to Catholicism is remarkable and a little scary.

They just don't bother with the 'thou shalt not steal/covet thy bothers daughter' part

judeboy101

Dr Brown wrote: »

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.


If I turned up to social welfare and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they

Dr Brown wrote: »

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.


If I turned up to social welfare and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they set me up as one ?

Some kids in my school are registered as travellers, they ain't travellers but we know they are doing it to access HEAR for leaving cert points . For those in the know they are using the 1,2,4 route as 5,6 doesn't apply to our school.

diggerdigger

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Hugely against.

Newstalk did a piece on it last week. Very interesting interviews.

Traveller devotion to Catholicism is remarkable and a little scary.

That is true. A particular devotion to Mary. In the countryside, if you have a statue of the virgin Mary outside your house, you are less likely to get burgled. When i was a kid, the house on the road with no alarm and a virgin mary statue was left alone, and all the houses with dogs and alarms were burgled.

sbsquarepants

diggerdigger wrote: »

When i was a kid, the house on the road with no alarm and a virgin mary statue was left alone, and all the houses with dogs and alarms were burgled.

Has it occurred to you that they were probably the ones doing the burgling?:D

goose2005

diggerdigger wrote: »

That is true. A particular devotion to Mary. In the countryside, if you have a statue of the virgin Mary outside your house, you are less likely to get burgled. When i was a kid, the house on the road with no alarm and a virgin mary statue was left alone, and all the houses with dogs and alarms were burgled.

probably because they were poor. The best defence against burglars is rich neighbours

diggerdigger

goose2005 wrote: »

probably because they were poor. The best defence against burglars is rich neighbours

Quite the opposite. It was the big house. Full of lots of antiques.

Though in retrospect, it was owned by an alcoholic lunatic farmer with a shotgun. so maybe that had something to do with it.

sbsquarepants

diggerdigger wrote: »

It was the big house. Full of lots of antiques.

His, or the other neighbours?:D

dd972

In England, there is a sort of cross pollination that occurs more frequently between settled and Traveller people, a young man or woman from an underclass or poor background can end up marrying into an English Romanichal or Irish traveller family whom are usually social housing based, generally because they drink in the same pubs or interact in the same areas, the London/Kent borders for example has a lot of this going on.

A lot of poor areas with high rates of criminality have a high incidence of folk getting shacked up with each other's cousins as opposed to their own first or second ones as Travellers do, so they're sort of endogenous at a further remove.

Colonel Claptrap

Excellent use of the term cross pollination!

suicide_circus

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Excellent use of the term cross pollination!

Cultural Appropriation you mean!

Although fair is fair, some travellers culturally appropriated some plant machinery out of my cousin's yard in Westmeath last October.

Permabear

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judeboy101

Permabear wrote: »

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You can't, in fact you can claim to be a Jewish black cis-gendered prophetess and thanks to our looney equality laws you have to be accepted as such.

Permabear

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Necro

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:pac: that probably comes from all the alleged cousin marrying

Samuel T. Cogley

Grayson wrote: »

He said traveller, not northsider.

**** you! I don't slap my wife about.


(too fecking scared too!)

Ipso

Necrominus wrote: »

:pac: that probably comes from all the alleged cousin marrying

That is the main difference. At some point in Irish history (about 400 or 500 years ago) some people took on a "nomadic" life style and became more endogamous.

Mutant z

Well if travellers can become settled i see no reason why the opposote can't occur.

Samuel T. Cogley

Mutant z wrote: »

Well if travellers can become settled i see no reason why the opposote can't occur.

Yeah but do you become a 'traveller' or just a traveller?

_Whimsical_

judeboy101 wrote: »

Some kids in my school are registered as travellers, they ain't travellers but we know they are doing it to access HEAR for leaving cert points . For those in the know they are using the 1,2,4 route as 5,6 doesn't apply to our school.

Seriously?
Is it the school that sets this up or have parents decided to go this route themselves? This is mad. I imagine it could prove quite popular! I can see this scheme is probably necessary for travellers but how are other people getting it?

This would mean they'd receive college offers for reduced points than the rest of the leaving cert population and would be entitled to extra supports in college from one to one tuition where needed to increased access to bursaries and grants.

punisher5112

Take every 2nd esb poll and phone poll and train tracks, and wiring for the signals.

When you have done this then come back and take the phone cables and the other poles.

Then rack up to the social and state you can't read a fecking thing and would like a curry with beef.
Act all lost.

Mrs OBumble

Mutant z wrote: »

Well if travellers can become settled i see no reason why the opposote can't occur.

Just because an Irish person moves to Australia doesn't make them stop being Irish.

Ditto just 'cos a Traveller moves into a house doesn't make them not a Traveller any more.

fxotoole

Dr Brown wrote: »

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.


If I turned up to social welfare and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they set me up as one ?

Any good at fighting, OP?

Hector Savage

Permabear wrote: »

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Genetic differences as in "more likely to be inbred?"

wexie

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

This would mean they'd receive college offers for reduced points than the rest of the leaving cert population and would be entitled to extra supports in college from one to one tuition where needed to increased access to bursaries and grants.

is this modern day 'equality' at work?

tabby aspreme

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Do you fancy your cousin OP?

You need to be, your own cousin once removed, to meet the criteria