Ignorant Git - AirCoach 171-D-2634 May 29th 2018

BenEadir

This twat really got on my nerves this evening. We're all keen to get on and not be stuck in traffic but the driver of this AirCoach seems to think that his time is more valuable than everyone else's and just skips queues at will in order to cut in and save time at other peoples expense.

Not really sure why I'm posting this here TBH. I guess I'd like to get the thoughts of users in a relevant forum and perhaps to start a thread where others can post similar instances in case it is a common occurrence by drivers working for this company.

colm_mcm

Stick it on their Facebook page and ask what they think of it?

McCrack

Just move on with your life is my view

Schwanz

Oh God what is the world coming to that plonkers get irritated by trivial issues.

Maz2016

I’d agree with McCrack.

colm_mcm

I dunno. If it was a one-off you’d say fair enough, but it looks like this is just how that driver drives.

ConnyMcDavid

It's how many seconds of your life? I'm all in favour of prioritising buses. There could be 10 people on that bus to just 1 in a car.

Dravokivich

McCrack wrote: »

Just move on with your life is my view

He's in the wrong lane. Driving is their profession, they should do it right.

Julez

Is there a stop in the left hand lane by any chance? I think there might be before the Luas tracks. Maybe he was stuck on that side to some extent? Not the worst offence of bad driving I've seen/see on a daily basis.

McCrack

Dravokivich wrote: »

He's in the wrong lane. Driving is their profession, they should do it right.

Agreed

selous

Them and the green bus' don't do ROTR, they're a joy to behold on the M7-N7, middle lane, right lane, rarely the left lane at all, till they're taking the left turn into Naas North.....then swing back into the right lane to enter the M7 (just to skip the traffic) as for the 80kmh speed limit for a coach, i've done 110 and still don't catch them, (when traffic is good)

Colonel Claptrap

I was walking through Dublin city centre recently and an aircoach came thundering past me up the road - in an attempt to beat a red light, he took a corner at speed (well above 30 km/h limit), mounted a footpath, clipped a lamppost which sent the access hatch sliding along the footpath next to pedestrians, and continued on his merry way without stopping.

I called Dublin City Council as the lamppost wiring was exposed, and this street corner was right beside 2 schools. In fairness to them they were out within an hour to repair it.

I emailed aircoach to tell them about the reckless driving and the damage done. I didn't even get an acknowledgment back.

devnull

I advise you to send a mail to Aircoach detailing the time, date, position and vehicle registration if you have it and if they don't respond write them a letter to their registered address.

Their fleet are fitted with CCTV and tracking devices as well as Drivegreen systems so they should be able to easily check it out if you give them enough details.

They've had a change of management this month so maybe something will change from Colonel Claptrap's experience.

BenEadir

Schwanz wrote: »

Oh God what is the world coming to that plonkers get irritated by trivial issues.

Q. What sort of person has nothing better to do than assume a poster is a plonker and decides being cut up (twice) is a trivial social issue?


A. Someone who also behaves in an ignorant anti social manner. :P

BenEadir

ConnyMcDavid wrote: »

It's how many seconds of your life?

Exactly, it's feck all so why couldn't he wait instead of be an ignorant anti social git?

ConnyMcDavid wrote: »

There could be 10 people on that bus to just 1 in a car.

That's possible but given the bus had just departed the Clayton Hotel in Sandyford and didn't appear to have any/many people on board I doubt it.


Either way, I'm in favour of bus lanes for the reason you highlight but I'm more in favour of everyone obeying the rules of the road and being respectful to other road users. Just because there isn't a bus lane doesn't mean this to$$er can ignore the rules of the road and make up his own bus lanes as he goes. How would he like it if car drivers decided certain parts of the city should have an extra lane for cars and blocked up the bus lane??? There'd be quare moaning out of him then

BenEadir

Julez wrote: »

Is there a stop in the left hand lane by any chance?

There's several sets of traffic lights along that strip of road. At one pint the road splits into left (for going straight ahead) and right for turning across the Luas tracks. He made a decision to stay in the left lane in order to undertake those queueing to turn right and then cut in at the top breaking a red light in the process.


Not the worst piece of driving ever for sure but if that becomes acceptable or of we give free passes to those who do it it'll result in a free for all carnage.

RTT

I have a sudden urge to purchase a Lexus IS hybrid for some reason after watching that vid!

BenEadir

devnull wrote: »

I advise you to send a mail to Aircoach detailing the time, date, position and vehicle registration if you have it and if they don't respond write them a letter to their registered address.

Their fleet are fitted with CCTV and tracking devices as well as Drivegreen systems so they should be able to easily check it out if you give them enough details.

They've had a change of management this month so maybe something will change from Colonel Claptrap's experience.

Good idea, I'll do exactly that.


The video captures the exact time/date (18:18 today) and the reg # was 171-D-2634.

brokenarms

BenEadir wrote: »

Good idea, I'll do exactly that.


The video captures the exact time/date (18:18 today) and the reg # was 171-D-2634.

Can they use CCTV against the drivers? Unless there is an accident I dont think they can even view it.

He was hardly driving dangerously so I doubt they would do anything anyways.

ravima

GDPR breach in that other reg no's are visible???

BenEadir

ravima wrote: »

GDPR breach in that other reg no's are visible???

:D:D



Click on any one of thousands of online webcams showing traffic and you''ll see all the reg #'s you like. Reg #'s are not personal info covered by GDPR, they are in fact the polar opposite of what GDPR is designed to protect.


The specific job of # plates is to publicly display a unique identifier so people breaking the law/rules of the road like this AirCoach driver can be identified.

devnull

brokenarms wrote: »

Can they use CCTV against the drivers? Unless there is an accident I dont think they can even view it.

I do not know - that might be the case in Dublin Bus and Bus Eireann but it's not the case in a lot of companies.

Maz2016

Genuinely interested , why is this annoying you so much? I see a lot worse on the road. Those drivers are on slightly above minimum wage and under fierce pressure for time schedules. I’m not saying that’s an excuse but think carefully. Do you potentially want to cost this driver his job because it gets on your tits? I’d say something if he was driving recklessly.
I know of a driver that got let go from another private bus operator for failing to make the schedules. I think it’s bad form identifying the driver in the way you have. Just my opinion

ted1

McCrack wrote: »

Dravokivich wrote: »

He's in the wrong lane. Driving is their profession, they should do it right.

Agreed

It’s a one way road. I suspect he had a stop on the left and had to cross over

_Kaiser_

Maz2016 wrote: »

Genuinely interested , why is this annoying you so much? I see a lot worse on the road. Those drivers are on slightly above minimum wage and under fierce pressure for time schedules. I’m not saying that’s an excuse but think carefully. Do you potentially want to cost this driver his job because it gets on your tits? I’d say something if he was driving recklessly.
I know of a driver that got let go from another private bus operator for failing to make the schedules. I think it’s bad form identifying the driver in the way you have. Just my opinion

Don't give a toss about his schedule or low wages.. no excuse for the driving seen in the OP's video.

ted1 wrote: »

It’s a one way road. I suspect he had a stop on the left and had to cross over

I know that road very well myself.

The first part of the video has a one-way road with a left and right turning lane only... he's in the wrong lane (there's no stop in advance of it) and tries to bully his way in at the top with a "mine is bigger than yours" attitude.

The second part of the video is just after he would have gone past the old Microsoft buildings, and left at the end of that road. Again, wrong lane and no excuses.

It's funny really given the almost universal (and justified) giving out in the DC thread about this sort of thing, but because this involves Aircoach it's ok?

BenEadir

Maz2016 wrote: »

Genuinely interested , why is this annoying you so much?

Because it's rude bullying behaviour which if tolerated will only encourage others to do the same. We're supposed to be a civilised society.

Maz2016 wrote: »

Those drivers are on slightly above minimum wage and under fierce pressure for time schedules. I’m not saying that’s an excuse but think carefully. Do you potentially want to cost this driver his job because it gets on your tits?

When you get behind the wheel of any vehicle it is you, the driver, who is responsible. If you are being put under undue pressure to meet unrealistic schedules you shouldn't allow that to justify breaking the rules of the road. If cutting up other road users becomes acceptable what is next? Breaking the speed limit to meet a deadline? What if the pressure you're under is financial. What if a mechanic is under pressure to cut costs and uses sub standard parts as a result which compromise safety?



For all we know the driver just likes being a w@nker and/or was in a rush to get home in time for Coronation Street.

Maz2016 wrote: »

Do you potentially want to cost this driver his job because it gets on your tits? I’d say something if he was driving recklessly.

I'm not putting the drivers job at risk, he did that all by himself through the choices he made to hold others up, cut others up and break a red light.

Maz2016 wrote: »

I know of a driver that got let go from another private bus operator for failing to make the schedules. I think it’s bad form identifying the driver in the way you have. Just my opinion

I don't believe you. If a driver got let go for no other reason than he was unable to meet unrealistic schedules due to circumstances outside his control on a consistent basis then he'll make hay if he makes a complaint to http://workplacerelations.ie/en/Complaints_Disputes/Refer_a_Dispute_Make_a_Complaint


BTW, your opinion, if it was correct which it isn't, would be advocating that we cow tow to bullies (in your example an aggressive management implementing an unrealistic set of performance targets) instead of standing up to them.



If the driver I observed was doing what he did trying to hit an impossible schedule target then publishing the way he acted in pursuit of attaining that target will help to highlight the pressure those drivers are being put under and the likes of the http://www.rsa.ie can get involved to relieve that pressure on drivers.



Ignoring it or sweeping it under the carpet will achieve nothing. That's been proven time and time again in this country!!

Dravokivich

brokenarms wrote: »

Can they use CCTV against the drivers? Unless there is an accident I dont think they can even view it.

He was hardly driving dangerously so I doubt they would do anything anyways.

They're forcing their way through traffic. They shouldn't be doing it.

BenEadir

ted1 wrote: »

It’s a one way road. I suspect he had a stop on the left and had to cross over

Nope. At the first junction the left lane was exclusively for turning left but he stopped all traffic behind him whilst he cut into the right turning lane and at the 2nd junction the left hand lane is exclusively straight ahead and once again he stopped traffic in his (straight ahead lane) whilst he bullied his way into the lane turning right and he did so whilst breaking a red light.



There is no ambiguity.

Ginger83

BenEadir wrote: »

Because it's rude bullying behaviour which if tolerated will only encourage others to do the same. We're supposed to be a civilised society.





When you get behind the wheel of any vehicle it is you, the driver, who is responsible. If you are being put under undue pressure to meet unrealistic schedules you shouldn't allow that to justify breaking the rules of the road. If cutting up other road users becomes acceptable what is next? Breaking the speed limit to meet a deadline? What if the pressure you're under is financial. What if a mechanic is under pressure to cut costs and uses sub standard parts as a result which compromise safety?



For all we know the driver just likes being a w@nker and/or was in a rush to get home in time for Coronation Street.






I'm not putting the drivers job at risk, he did that all by himself through the choices he made to hold others up, cut others up and break a red light.






I don't believe you. If a driver got let go for no other reason than he was unable to meet unrealistic schedules due to circumstances outside his control on a consistent basis then he'll make hay if he makes a complaint to http://workplacerelations.ie/en/Complaints_Disputes/Refer_a_Dispute_Make_a_Complaint


BTW, your opinion, if it was correct which it isn't, would be advocating that we cow tow to bullies (in your example an aggressive management implementing an unrealistic set of performance targets) instead of standing up to them.



If the driver I observed was doing what he did trying to hit an impossible schedule target then publishing the way he acted in pursuit of attaining that target will help to highlight the pressure those drivers are being put under and the likes of the http://www.rsa.ie can get involved to relieve that pressure on drivers.



Ignoring it or sweeping it under the carpet will achieve nothing. That's been proven time and time again in this country!!

I would have just tore the side off the bus with my car.......jesus buddy did you not see i had right of way? €€€ Hard lesson learned!

BenEadir

BTW, just for context, this isn't the first time I've seen this happen with an AirCoach. I've previously (more than once) seen them cut dien the left lane along by the Luas stops and then cut right at the top.

The first junction manoeuvre was a new one on me today and motivated me to figure out how to extract and splice the dashcam video so I'll be able to capture any other instances of such behaviour going forward as I drive around that area several times every day.

dave98

OP, you really have a lot to worry about.

BenEadir

dave98 wrote: »

OP, you really have a lot to worry about.

Thank you for your concern Dave, it's misplaced as I'm not worried at all but nevertheless much appreciated.

s8n

Life is too short dude, let it go. You don’t want to become known as the dashcam wanker !!

BenEadir

s8n wrote: »

Life is too short dude, let it go. You don’t want to become known as the dashcam wanker !!

AirCoach driver bullies his way along the road breaking red lights etc and I'm the wanker for calling him out. Wouldn't the world be a much better place if we all just rolled over and let people bully us or we allowed ourselves to be intimidated by some keyboard warrior threatening to call us names. Oooh, I'm sooooooo scared.

Love it :-)

soundman45

selous wrote: »

Them and the green bus' don't do ROTR, they're a joy to behold on the M7-N7, middle lane, right lane, rarely the left lane at all, till they're taking the left turn into Naas North.....then swing back into the right lane to enter the M7 (just to skip the traffic) as for the 80kmh speed limit for a coach, i've done 110 and still don't catch them, (when traffic is good)

Buses can legally travel at up to 100kph

Auguste Comte

selous wrote: »

Them and the green bus' don't do ROTR, they're a joy to behold on the M7-N7, middle lane, right lane, rarely the left lane at all, till they're taking the left turn into Naas North.....then swing back into the right lane to enter the M7 (just to skip the traffic) as for the 80kmh speed limit for a coach, i've done 110 and still don't catch them, (when traffic is good)

Just for clarification the speed limit for a coach is 100 kph.

soundman45

Maz2016 wrote: »

Genuinely interested , why is this annoying you so much? I see a lot worse on the road. Those drivers are on slightly above minimum wage and under fierce pressure for time schedules. I’m not saying that’s an excuse but think carefully. Do you potentially want to cost this driver his job because it gets on your tits? I’d say something if he was driving recklessly.
I know of a driver that got let go from another private bus operator for failing to make the schedules. I think it’s bad form identifying the driver in the way you have. Just my opinion

Can you back up the statement about minimum wage. Aircoach definitely do not pay anything near minimum wage and expect better from drivers. This driver was just being a muppet and deserves to be reported.

facehugger99

Maz2016 wrote: »

Genuinely interested , why is this annoying you so much? I see a lot worse on the road. Those drivers are on slightly above minimum wage and under fierce pressure for time schedules. I’m not saying that’s an excuse but think carefully. Do you potentially want to cost this driver his job because it gets on your tits? I’d say something if he was driving recklessly.
I know of a driver that got let go from another private bus operator for failing to make the schedules. I think it’s bad form identifying the driver in the way you have. Just my opinion

As sure as night follows day, when someone acts like an ignorant prick in this country there's going to be someone else making excuses for them and underplaying it.

kennethsmyth

ConnyMcDavid wrote: »

It's how many seconds of your life? I'm all in favour of prioritising buses. There could be 10 people on that bus to just 1 in a car.

I have no problem prioritising buses - this is not that, its an illegal manuver as the bus is in a left turn lane only. Its a danger and also its pure bullying. Aircoach also does this trick while going over beckett bridge from south to north.

They drive over the hatched lines to get into the left turn lane only and then drive to the end whereby they pull and bully across to go straight over towards guild street.

Regarding dont waste your time on this, I believe that every once in a while people should put others back in line if only to ensure we dont all break into a free for all.

If all other drivers refused to let vehicles who skip or push in illegally then this wouldnt happen as often, as now its multiple times a day occurence.

billybonkers

I see buses of all types do this on a daily basis, they try to bully their way into lanes because they are much bigger than other vehicles. It is not really appropriate. They feel a sense of entitlement as they drive all day long, sorry but that is not how the rules of the road work lads.

It is correct for OP the report this kind of behaviour, the driver of this Aircoach is a "professional" and should act like one.

kennethsmyth

s8n wrote: »

Life is too short dude, let it go. You don’t want to become known as the dashcam wanker !!

You've called him a dashcam wanker (or at least threatened that it will become his known name). You should be calling the bus driver a bus wanker

mfceiling

kennethsmyth wrote: »

If all other drivers refused to let vehicles who skip or push in illegally then this wouldnt happen as often, as now its multiple times a day occurence.

This x100. Sunday past I watched a black jeep pull out of a line of traffic into a right turn only lane, drive right up the outside and then bang on his left indicator. Gave me great pleasure to not let him in and then see the right turn light go green and him getting blared out of it....he had to turn right as he couldn't get in to the lane he wanted to push in to!! Small victory!!

BenEadir

kennethsmyth wrote: »

You've called him a dashcam wanker (or at least threatened that it will become his known name).

I know, imagine the pain and suffering I'm going to have to endure as a result of being called a derogatory name by complete strangers on the interweb of all places!!

Spook_ie

Julez wrote: »

Is there a stop in the left hand lane by any chance? I think there might be before the Luas tracks. Maybe he was stuck on that side to some extent? Not the worst offence of bad driving I've seen/see on a daily basis.

BenEadir wrote: »

Nope. At the first junction the left lane was exclusively for turning left but he stopped all traffic behind him whilst he cut into the right turning lane and at the 2nd junction the left hand lane is exclusively straight ahead and once again he stopped traffic in his (straight ahead lane) whilst he bullied his way into the lane turning right and he did so whilst breaking a red light.



There is no ambiguity.

BenEadir wrote: »

BTW, just for context, this isn't the first time I've seen this happen with an AirCoach. I've previously (more than once) seen them cut dien the left lane along by the Luas stops and then cut right at the top.

The first junction manoeuvre was a new one on me today and motivated me to figure out how to extract and splice the dashcam video so I'll be able to capture any other instances of such behaviour going forward as I drive around that area several times every day.

According to Google there is a stop before his last cut in, he'd have no option but get into the right lane or turn at the lights, as to the first cut in at the lights was heavy traffic preventing him getting into the lane earlier? As you said

The first junction manoeuvre was a new one on me today and motivated me to figure out how to extract and splice the dashcam video so I'll be able to capture any other instances of such behaviour going forward as I drive around that area several times every day

_Kaiser_

Spook_ie wrote: »

According to Google there is a stop before his last cut in, he'd have no option but get into the right lane or turn at the lights, as to the first cut in at the lights was heavy traffic preventing him getting into the lane earlier? As you said

That stop is on a different road. The second part of the OP's video takes place on the perpendicular road on the right of the screenshot above (Blackthorn Ave).

The first part takes place on a road that would be on the left of the screen. It's right turn (where he cuts in the first time) onto Blackthorn Road, down past the buildings to the stop , left turn at the end onto Blackthorn Ave , and then right further down where he cuts in again.

Wishbone Ash

facehugger99 wrote: »

As sure as night follows day, when someone acts like an ignorant prick in this country there's going to be someone else making excuses for them and underplaying it.

Well, in fairness, he/she did say in their opening post that they'd 'like to get the thoughts of users in a relevant forum'.

BenEadir wrote: »

... I guess I'd like to get the thoughts of users in a relevant forum ....

Spook_ie

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That stop is on a different road. The second part of the OP's video takes place on the perpendicular road on the right of the screenshot above (Blackthorn Ave).

The first part takes place on a road that would be on the left of the screen. It's right turn (where he cuts in the first time) onto Blackthorn Road, down past the buildings to the stop , left turn at the end onto Blackthorn Ave , and then right further down where he cuts in again.

In that case he's just being a dick then

BenEadir

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That stop is on a different road. The second part of the OP's video takes place on the perpendicular road on the right of the screenshot above (Blackthorn Ave).

The first part takes place on a road that would be on the left of the screen. It's right turn (where he cuts in the first time) onto Blackthorn Road, down past the buildings to the stop , left turn at the end onto Blackthorn Ave , and then right further down where he cuts in again.

You are 100% correct.

BenEadir

Spook_ie wrote: »

In that case he's just being a dick then

And so are you :-)

magicbastarder

i suspect that was a reference to the bus driver.

Corben Dallas

Nothing major imo, ok I'll give u turning right in a left turn only lane is wrong.
(btw didnt like the u slowed down on right turn exit...maybe trying to slow bus driver...?)

2nd clip
left inside lane was faster, u were in slower lane, nothing wrong with efficient time saving driving.

both minor..ish, 2nd is nothing.