BMW 330 (and others!) - savings per charge

BuzzFish

Hi folks,
Having brought in a 330e a couple of months ago I decided to do some maths on the savings I'm seeing compared to my previous 2011 A4 Diesel.

Obviously, I did not buy a 330e just to see € savings. I bought it to have a 250bhp car that can run on nothing but electric on my short commute but still have a good right pedal for when I want it. I also was not brave enough to go full EV just yet.

Anyway, attached is an Excel I put together that shows me that I save €1.71 with each charge and €6.09 per 100KM when using home charging. I thought others may find it useful to add their numbers or let me know if I missed anything obvious.

This does not account for the free charging we have access to or the fact I have pre-conditioning in the car and all the other non-monetary benefits of PHEV/BEV ownership.

unkel

Well wear!

If only the 330e had a bigger battery, I'd be seriously interested myself. They represent great value for money coming off lease in the UK

You might want to switch electricity provider though. You pay 8.6c/kWh night rate while the cheapest is 6.7c. That's 25% cheaper.

Heres Johnny

16000 GBP I saw a 2016 advertised a while back. Was SE though which I wouldn't buy myself but plenty would. Loads and loads of them sub 20k already.

catharsis

As the very satisfied owner of one for the past two years I'd thoroughly recommend one even at the small battery range for the reasons identified exactly above...

I bought it to have a 250bhp car that can run on nothing but electric on my short commute but still have a good right pedal for when I want it

Anyone looking at a second-hand one might also want to look at the tuning pack available for about EUR750 which adds another 70BHP and over 100 torques - which should turn this car from fun when required to silly when required.... and all having no impact whatsoever on the electric range for tootling about.

(also if possible get the adaptive LED lights which are fab)

Heres Johnny

100% my next car will be a 330e. However I'm very much against financing cars and buying heavily depreciating assets so it will be with cold hard cash and I'll wait a little while to both have the cash available and them to come into a price range I'm happy to pay.
So probably a year or 18 months time I'll pick up a 2016 car, unless brexit forces my hand sooner.

1jcdub

catharsis wrote: »

As the very satisfied owner of one for the past two years I'd thoroughly recommend one even at the small battery range for the reasons identified exactly above...



Anyone looking at a second-hand one might also want to look at the tuning pack available for about EUR750 which adds another 70BHP and over 100 torques - which should turn this car from fun when required to silly when required.... and all having no impact whatsoever on the electric range for tootling about.

(also if possible get the adaptive LED lights which are fab)

What tuning pack are you referring to? :-) I just bought a 2017 330 m sport that I'm collecting next week and I'm looking at either a tuning box from DTUK or TDI tuning also based in the UK.
The TDI tuning unit is claiming to give more power and torque but the DTUK unit has an option of controlling the unit via your phones Bluetooth. Trying to decide which to purchase, although neither unit cost 750 euro!

BuzzFish

1jcdub wrote: »

What tuning pack are you referring to? :-) I just bought a 2017 330 m sport that I'm collecting next week and I'm looking at either a tuning box from DTUK or TDI tuning also based in the UK.
The TDI tuning unit is claiming to give more power and torque but the DTUK unit has an option of controlling the unit via your phones Bluetooth. Trying to decide which to purchase, although neither unit cost 750 euro!

Interested in the various remap/tuning options myself but one concern I have, that I'd never considered before owning my 330e is cold start. Say my engine is off as I pull away in the morning and I'm on battery. Jump onto the motorway and accelerate and from cold start my engine has to kick in and support a car now going 120kph without time to warm up.

I'd be interested to hear what folks with more mechanical knowledge than me think of this in terms of wear on engine.

acer911

Roughly how much would VRT be on these cars? Can’t see my find the options on the VRT site.

Matt Simis

acer911 wrote: »

Roughly how much would VRT be on these cars? Can’t see my find the options on the VRT site.

It is there, just pick 330, Auto, 4 door and engine is Hybrid.

Here is one i tried, you can copy the details to do your own:

Your VRT Calculation
Date 16/06/2018
Time 10:25
Rate of VRT
14%
Vehicle Registration Tax
(payable on enquiry)
€2,220
Vehicle Details
Statistical Code 41487721

Model
330

Make
BMW

Version
F30 E M SPORT 4DR AUTO

Breakdown of VRT Calculation
Open Market Selling Price (OMSP) determined by Revenue
€46539
Monthly Adjustment
N/A
Depreciation Code Allocated by Revenue
F1
Odometer Reading
50000 Miles
Date of First Registration
March 2017
Mileage/Kilometre Reduction
€2040
Rate of Depreciation for this Vehicle
27%
Current OMSP determined by Revenue
€31933
Revenue CO2 Calculation
CO2 Emissions
49
Rate of VRT
14%

Vehicle Registration Tax
(payable on enquiry)
€2,220

1jcdub

BuzzFish wrote: »

Interested in the various remap/tuning options myself but one concern I have, that I'd never considered before owning my 330e is cold start. Say my engine is off as I pull away in the morning and I'm on battery. Jump onto the motorway and accelerate and from cold start my engine has to kick in and support a car now going 120kph without time to warm up.

I'd be interested to hear what folks with more mechanical knowledge than me think of this in terms of wear on engine.

I believe the engine has a auxiliary heater so the oil and water are up to a reasonable temperature. For a sign start. I doubt know if the car has an electric oil pump. If it does I'd imagine that is operates just enough to circulate oil around the engine intermittently to keep components lubricated to allow for a sudden start up...
Have you had your car long?

Calahonda52

I know DPER, not before time,  are looking at changing the road tax on all hybrids are they are a serious loss of tax revenue and still massive polluters of diesel particulates and doing nothing towards the 2020 targets: hopefully next budget will sort this anomaly out.

BuzzFish

1jcdub wrote: »

I believe the engine has a auxiliary heater so the oil and water are up to a reasonable temperature. For a sign start. I doubt know if the car has an electric oil pump. If it does I'd imagine that is operates just enough to circulate oil around the engine intermittently to keep components lubricated to allow for a sudden start up...
Have you had your car long?

About 4 months now. Love it!

1jcdub

BuzzFish wrote: »

About 4 months now. Love it!

Collecting mine in Fri 2017 M Sport version. My first BMW, first hybrid and first rear wheel drive lol it'll be my first non VAG in 16-17 years.
I'm going to get a Carly coding tool to activate some options on the car. It's a diagnostic tool also.
Hoping to order a tuning box for it next week.

BuzzFish

1jcdub wrote: »

Collecting mine in Fri 2017 M Sport version. My first BMW, first hybrid and first rear wheel drive lol it'll be my first non VAG in 16-17 years.
I'm going to get a Carly coding tool to activate some options on the car. It's a diagnostic tool also.
Hoping to order a tuning box for it next week.

I use bimmercode. Be interested to hear how Carly compares.

1jcdub

BuzzFish wrote: »

I use bimmercode. Be interested to hear how Carly compares.

I did read a few comparisons between the two. Apparently you need two bimmer code apps for the same functionality as Carly. As I've said I have been a VW, Audi Skoda guy for the last 16 plus years and as such I've used vcds (Ross Tech) to activate options, reset fault codes and carry out basic settings. I'll most likely sell the vcds now and go with Carly.

Cerco

1jcdub wrote: »

Collecting mine in Fri 2017 M Sport version. My first BMW, first hybrid and first rear wheel drive lol it'll be my first non VAG in 16-17 years.
I'm going to get a Carly coding tool to activate some options on the car. It's a diagnostic tool also.
Hoping to order a tuning box for it next week.

Buy Carly before purchase if you can. It has a very useful “used car check” app.so you can check out car.

1jcdub

Cerco wrote: »

Buy Carly before purchase if you can. It has a very useful “used car check” app.so you can check out car.

Where the best place to purchase Carly? From their website or Amazon....

Cerco

1jcdub wrote: »

Where the best place to purchase Carly? From their website or Amazon....

Don’t know, but I bought my adaptor from Amazon. You can try it out then with the free software version before buying full version through App Store.

ELM327

Calahonda52 wrote: »

I know DPER, not before time, are looking at changing the road tax on all hybrids are they are a serious loss of tax revenue and still massive polluters of diesel particulates and doing nothing towards the 2020 targets: hopefully next budget will sort this anomaly out.

This is about the 330e which does not run on diesel?

catharsis

just fyi in terms of coding, carly etc, I use a free coding tool called e-sys which can code pretty much everything as far as I know. details at bimmerpost.

enabling advanced bluetooth (2 phones, streaming) for example is a freebie, other options depend on options selected.

1jcdub

catharsis wrote: »

just fyi in terms of coding, carly etc, I use a free coding tool called e-sys which can code pretty much everything as far as I know. details at bimmerpost.

enabling advanced bluetooth (2 phones, streaming) for example is a freebie, other options depend on options selected.

I was going to purchase Carly but after finding out that it's 56 euro a year. I decided against it. I don't mind paying say 120 maybe 150 euro as a once off for the licence. So I've purchased obd Bluetooth dongle and bimmer code. . Hopefully have the dongle buy Fri when I collect the car. I've also purchased genuine gloss black ring l front grills from BMW in the North, hopefully they'll be here by Friday

Cerco

1jcdub wrote: »

I was going to purchase Carly but after finding out that it's 56 euro a year. I decided against it. I don't mind paying say 120 maybe 150 euro as a once off for the licence. So I've purchased obd Bluetooth dongle and bimmer code. . Hopefully have the dongle buy Fri when I collect the car. I've also purchased genuine gloss black ring l front grills from BMW in the North, hopefully they'll be here by Friday

I am not aware of any annual charge for Carly. I have mine since Feb 17 and made a once off payment. Where did you see a yearly payment?
Maybe it has changed for new purchases but I get news updates and saw nothing regarding an annual license charge.

1jcdub

Cerco wrote: »

I am not aware of any annual charge for Carly. I have mine since Feb 17 and made a once off payment. Where did you see a yearly payment?
Maybe it has changed for new purchases but I get news updates and saw nothing regarding an annual license charge.

It's changed since March 2018. The gave all their loyal users that had been registered before May 18 lifetime updates and all new users from April have to pay an annual subscription if 56 euro.

1jcdub

Here you go..

1jcdub

I collected my 17 330e car today and on my way home I had an engine oil pressure light warning flash up on the dash! After calling the garage I purchased from. I was asked to turn the engine off and restart it to see if the warning went away, it did. So I continued with my drive home and the light came back on. So I went fully electric for the remainder of the journey as a precaution. I was also asked to check the oil level through the settings. Measuring the oil level the system is suppose to run to 100% during the check, but during the 4 checks I carried out it only completing to 44% on all 4 occasions. I'm guessing it's a sensor, electrical or software issue. The earliest BMW can take the car is next Wednesday. I've been asked to bring the car back to the garage where I bought it Friday and they'd provided a replaced while my car is waiting to go into BMW. I'm not keen on giving 50kms back to the garage in case it's a bigger problem I'm not happy and it's taken the shine of my new car.

bp_me

If it's a 17 car it's still under bmw warranty. Just go to your nearest BMW dealer.

embraer170

1jcdub wrote: »

I collected my 17 330e car today and on my way home I had an engine oil pressure light warning flash up on the dash! After calling the garage I purchased from. I was asked to turn the engine off and restart it to see if the warning went away, it did. So I continued with my drive home and the light came back on. So I went fully electric for the remainder of the journey as a precaution. I was also asked to check the oil level through the settings. Measuring the oil level the system is suppose to run to 100% during the check, but during the 4 checks I carried out it only completing to 44% on all 4 occasions. I'm guessing it's a sensor, electrical or software issue. The earliest BMW can take the car is next Wednesday. I've been asked to bring the car back to the garage where I bought it Friday and they'd provided a replaced while my car is waiting to go into BMW. I'm not keen on giving 50kms back to the garage in case it's a bigger problem I'm not happy and it's taken the shine of my new car.

Why not call roadside assistance and get them to tow it to the nearest BMW garage?

1jcdub

embraer170 wrote: »

Why not call roadside assistance and get them to tow it to the nearest BMW garage?

I wasn't going to but I don't think they give me a replacement car while I'm waiting for my car to be inspected-repaired...

1jcdub

We'll I called BMW Assist this morning and its all sorted. Within an hour of making the call, I had a tow truck arrive for my car to bring it to BMW for repair and a rental arrived also within the hour. Great service. Hopefully I'll have my car back this Friday, finger crossed

Cerco

Hope you get it back soon and get to enjoy your new car.

1jcdub

Cerco wrote: »

Hope you get it back soon and get to enjoy your new car.

Thanks.

Quick question. My car didn't come with an owner's manual. Does a manual come as standard with the car?

Heres Johnny

1jcdub wrote: »

Cerco wrote: »

Hope you get it back soon and get to enjoy your new car.

Thanks.

Quick question. My car didn't come with an owner's manual. Does a manual come as standard with the car?

Never had a car without one it must have been just taken out and not put back in.
I'd say it's a legal requirement to provide one actually

James Bond Junior

Manual is all in the idrive on new BMW's.

Following this as I do a 100km a day commute and I am thinking of going EV.

ELM327

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Manual is all in the idrive on new BMW's.

Following this as I do a 100km a day commute and I am thinking of going EV.

If you are doing 100km a day a 330e is not the car to buy.


The likes of an Ioniq EV, the new leaf, the egolf, a newer i3, and any Tesla will handle all of that with ease.

Heres Johnny

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Manual is all in the idrive on new BMW's.

Following this as I do a 100km a day commute and I am thinking of going EV.

News to me but I suppose it makes sense and actually a good idea.

Heres Johnny

ELM327 wrote: »

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Manual is all in the idrive on new BMW's.

Following this as I do a 100km a day commute and I am thinking of going EV.

If you are doing 100km a day a 330e is not the car to buy.


The likes of an Ioniq EV, the new leaf, the egolf, a newer i3, and any Tesla will handle all of that with ease.

But the 330e is a nicer car than any of them.
The way I would look at it is you're doing 80km a day in what is probably a 35-40 mpg car on the 2 litre petrol and 20km on electric. The car is clever enough to use electric when petrol is at its most inefficient if you tell it where you are going.
So overall you're probably in a 45-50mpg 250bhp car or thereabouts
I like it but you just have to treat it for what it is

ELM327

Heres Johnny wrote: »

But the 330e is a nicer car than any of them.
The way I would look at it is you're doing 80km a day in what is probably a 35-40 mpg car on the 2 litre petrol and 20km on electric. The car is clever enough to use electric when petrol is at its most inefficient if you tell it where you are going.
So overall you're probably in a 45-50mpg 250bhp car or thereabouts
I like it but you just have to treat it for what it is

Agree , but the previous poster said he was thinking of "going EV".
Going EV doesn't mean buying an efficient hybrid.


A 330e works well if you have less than 30km round trip so it can do it all on EV and have a fast economical car at the weekends as a bonus. But it's not "going EV" to buy a 330e for a 100km commute. It would be no more efficient than a prius. In fact I used to get 60mpg+ from a prius doing a 120km commute before my Ioniq EV.

And a last edit: A 330e is a nice car but it's not close to a Tesla.

1jcdub

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Never had a car without one it must have been just taken out and not put back in.
I'd say it's a legal requirement to provide one actually

I'll get onto the garage today and see if the have it. If not all then to provide a genuine manual not a copy

Heres Johnny

1jcdub wrote: »

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Never had a car without one it must have been just taken out and not put back in.
I'd say it's a legal requirement to provide one actually

I'll get onto the garage today and see if the have it. If not all then to provide a genuine manual not a copy

Another poster said it's all digital through idrive so maybe there is none.

Heres Johnny

ELM327 wrote: »

Heres Johnny wrote: »

But the 330e is a nicer car than any of them.
The way I would look at it is you're doing 80km a day in what is probably a 35-40 mpg car on the 2 litre petrol and 20km on electric. The car is clever enough to use electric when petrol is at its most inefficient if you tell it where you are going.
So overall you're probably in a 45-50mpg 250bhp car or thereabouts
I like it but you just have to treat it for what it is

Agree , but the previous poster said he was thinking of "going EV".
Going EV doesn't mean buying an efficient hybrid.


A 330e works well if you have less than 30km round trip so it can do it all on EV and have a fast economical car at the weekends as a bonus. But it's not "going EV" to buy a 330e for a 100km commute. It would be no more efficient than a prius. In fact I used to get 60mpg+ from a prius doing a 120km commute before my Ioniq EV.

And a last edit: A 330e is a nice car but it's not close to a Tesla.

I will admit I've never sat in or had a proper look at a Tesla so I don't know much about them. Are they up to premium brand finish inside?

1jcdub

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Another poster said it's all digital through idrive so maybe there is none.

I'll check with the BMW garage when my car is ready to collect

Cheers

cros13

Heres Johnny wrote: »

But the 330e is a nicer car than any of them.

Except the i3. Which is quicker, has a better designed cabin with more space, more equipment at any given price point, lower center of gravity and lower running/maintenance costs.

Certainly for playing in traffic and a handling the stress of a long commute the i3 is the better pick. I've just finished 3 years of commuting 187km/day in my 151 i3. She's done 160,000km so far with one service ( January 2017, next is due January 2019) and an average €400/year in electricity. It's such a great car that I'm seriously considering getting another one next year over a Tesla or Jaguar I-Pace.

Heres Johnny wrote: »

The way I would look at it is you're doing 80km a day in what is probably a 35-40 mpg car on the 2 litre petrol and 20km on electric. The car is clever enough to use electric when petrol is at its most inefficient if you tell it where you are going.
So overall you're probably in a 45-50mpg 250bhp car or thereabouts
I like it but you just have to treat it for what it is

The problem with the 330e for a 100km commute is that you're paying for both powertrains and saddling each one with the other. The EV battery is too small to run a powerful motor yet you're carrying so much extra weight that you only get 35-45km out of a 7.6kWh pack. You still have a full combustion powertrain which needs maintenance and can go wrong and you still have fairly substantial fuel bills.

That's the PHEV dilemma, if your daily driving can fit in the EV range you're getting a short range EV with poor performance, if it can't you're getting a more expensive, heavier combustion car with marginally better fuel consumption on a mixed cycle and potentially worse with long distance motorway trips.

Even if you go with the REx i3, it still has the same 2 year service interval of the BEV.

The i3 tends to beat out the 330e in head-to-head tests:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/electric-cars/100234/best-plug-in-hybrids

Certainly test driving both would be worth your time.

Heres Johnny

I had an i3 for a week last month. Great powertrain I'd drive it all day but no way would I class it as a nicer car than a 330e. Just my opinion. But an amazing engineering achievement. And the acceleration was something else.
Main complaint was the seats, you sit on them rather than in them.
Put the i3 engineering into a 3 or 5 series and I'd break the bank to get one.

stesaurus

The 330e does come with a manual so you're missing it.

I've owned both the i3 and now the 330e so probably best placed to compare. The i3 is hands down a more fun enjoyable car. Costs nothing to run in comparison but the restricted range kills it.
They are probably fairly comparable inside when looking at the same spec but the suicide doors are more of a pain in the ass than a solution.
I like my 330e but loved my i3. As soon as BMW get serious about a full 3/5 series EV I'll be all over it. Until then I'll be back in a full EV soon as you can't beat 100% torque with super cheap electricity costs.

masterboy123

Your post is really very helpful.

I am also thinking to get a hybrid in the near future.

I wonder if its much cheaper to get a 330E from UK mainlands? Will there be over 3000 euros difference?

Thanks

BuzzFish wrote: »

Hi folks,
Having brought in a 330e a couple of months ago I decided to do some maths on the savings I'm seeing compared to my previous 2011 A4 Diesel.

Obviously, I did not buy a 330e just to see € savings. I bought it to have a 250bhp car that can run on nothing but electric on my short commute but still have a good right pedal for when I want it. I also was not brave enough to go full EV just yet.

cros13

Heres Johnny wrote: »

I had an i3 for a week last month. Great powertrain I'd drive it all day but no way would I class it as a nicer car than a 330e. Just my opinion.

Depends on how you spec it... but for base specs (and the very top specs) the materials in the i3 are better. I'm not a fan of the cheap plastic pleather and aluminium foil BMW seems to be liking these days for interiors.

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Main complaint was the seats, you sit on them rather than in them.

True, they lack lumbar support and side bolstering.

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Put the i3 engineering into a 3 or 5 series and I'd break the bank to get one.

That would be the i4... production model being shown off next year for 2020 production.

TomOnBoard

1jcdub wrote: »

We'll I called BMW Assist this morning and its all sorted. Within an hour of making the call, I had a tow truck arrive for my car to bring it to BMW for repair and a rental arrived also within the hour. Great service. Hopefully, I'll have my car back this Friday, finger crossed

Hopefully that's put the shine you thought you'd lost back on.

1jcdub

1jcdub wrote: »

I collected my 17 330e car today and on my way home I had an engine oil pressure light warning flash up on the dash! After calling the garage I purchased from. I was asked to turn the engine off and restart it to see if the warning went away, it did. So I continued with my drive home and the light came back on. So I went fully electric for the remainder of the journey as a precaution. I was also asked to check the oil level through the settings. Measuring the oil level the system is suppose to run to 100% during the check, but during the 4 checks I carried out it only completing to 44% on all 4 occasions. I'm guessing it's a sensor, electrical or software issue. The earliest BMW can take the car is next Wednesday. I've been asked to bring the car back to the garage where I bought it Friday and they'd provided a replaced while my car is waiting to go into BMW. I'm not keen on giving 50kms back to the garage in case it's a bigger problem I'm not happy and it's taken the shine of my new car.

BMW garage update:
So I spoke to the BMW garage today and the found that the car has the wrong oil filter fitted and they believe that this caused the oil pressure problem.
So they're going to drop the oil to inspect it and ensure its ok. Then fit the recommended filter and replace the oil. So it's going to cost the garage I purchased the car from around 300 euro for the diagnostics and oil and filter change which they are happy to pay after informing them of the diagnosis. I'm not surprised they are happy to pay. It could have caused serious engine damage. I believe the garage should be making a decent gesture of good will to me for all the inconvenience caused, worry, time and effort, also having to travel back and forth to Dublin to collect the car back from BMW etc all through no fault of my own.
Do you think I'm being unreasonable?
If not what would you consider a decent gesture on their part?
I was also going to ask then to provide a guarantee that if the engine failed over the next 2 years they would cover the cost. The engine might appear to be all good but it might come back to haunt me. Plus BMW now have the car showing as having the wrong filter fitted in its history.
Any thoughts?
Thanks

Heres Johnny

1jcdub wrote: »

1jcdub wrote: »

I collected my 17 330e car today and on my way home I had an engine oil pressure light warning flash up on the dash! After calling the garage I purchased from. I was asked to turn the engine off and restart it to see if the warning went away, it did. So I continued with my drive home and the light came back on. So I went fully electric for the remainder of the journey as a precaution. I was also asked to check the oil level through the settings. Measuring the oil level the system is suppose to run to 100% during the check, but during the 4 checks I carried out it only completing to 44% on all 4 occasions. I'm guessing it's a sensor, electrical or software issue. The earliest BMW can take the car is next Wednesday. I've been asked to bring the car back to the garage where I bought it Friday and they'd provided a replaced while my car is waiting to go into BMW. I'm not keen on giving 50kms back to the garage in case it's a bigger problem I'm not happy and it's taken the shine of my new car.

BMW garage update:
So I spoke to the BMW garage today and the found that the car has the wrong oil filter fitted and they believe that this caused the oil pressure problem.
So they're going to drop the oil to inspect it and ensure its ok. Then fit the recommended filter and replace the oil. So it's going to cost the garage I purchased the car from around 300 euro for the diagnostics and oil and filter change which they are happy to pay after informing them of the diagnosis. I'm not surprised they are happy to pay. It could have caused serious engine damage. I believe the garage should be making a decent gesture of good will to me for all the inconvenience caused, worry, time and effort, also having to travel back and forth to Dublin to collect the car back from BMW etc all through no fault of my own.
Do you think I'm being unreasonable?
If not what would you consider a decent gesture on their part?
I was also going to ask then to provide a guarantee that if the engine failed over the next 2 years they would cover the cost. The engine might appear to be all good but it might come back to haunt me. Plus BMW now have the car showing as having the wrong filter fitted in its history.
Any thoughts?
Thanks

Yeah don't push it. Get it sorted and be happy. Is it cash you want?

A car is a combination of 1000s of parts some of them go wrong, I'm fine with this, it's part of car ownership. And that's why you bought from a dealer to put things right when they go wrong for the first period of ownership.
It's the service you get from the person and business dealing with you that counts, they seem to have dealt with it ok.
Once the car is back to proper working order can't see anything else as being other than entitlement culture.

1jcdub

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Yeah don't push it. Get it sorted and be happy. Is it cash you want?

A car is a combination of 1000s of parts some of them go wrong, I'm fine with this, it's part of car ownership. And that's why you bought from a dealer to put things right when they go wrong for the first period of ownership.
It's the service you get from the person and business dealing with you that counts, they seem to have dealt with it ok.
Once the car is back to proper working order can't see anything else as being other than entitlement culture.

Fully accept that things can go wrong with any engine, but when a garage says the car was serviced by BMW and it wasn't that's one thing but on top of that an incorrect oil filter was fitted to the engine causing an engine oil pressure warning, then that's not failure of a component it's incompetence by the garage.
I had to organise for the car to be recovered by BMW. Not the original garage. They asked me to drive 60km to return the car with a red oil pressure warning light. That's careless in their part. More than likely they didn't want to have to travel 120km round trip to collect the car. Without question they should have recovered the car themselves on the day in question.
And now I've to take a day off work again to drive 100km round trip to collect my car when repaired. So I do think they should do something as a gesture for my inconvenience and expense. I can assure you I don't have any sense of entitlement, never have. I didn't purchase a 10 year old runabout from a back street garage. I purchased a premium 1 year old car from a reputable garage and spent a large sum of money in doing so.

TomOnBoard

1jcdub wrote: »

Fully accept that things can go wrong with any engine, but when a garage says the car was serviced by BMW and it wasn't that's one thing but on top of that an incorrect oil filter was fitted to the engine causing an engine oil pressure warning, then that's not failure of a component it's incompetence by the garage.
I had to organise for the car to be recovered by BMW. Not the original garage. They asked me to drive 60km to return the car with a red oil pressure warning light. That's careless in their part. More than likely they didn't want to have to travel 120km round trip to collect the car. Without question they should have recovered the car themselves on the day in question.
And now I've to take a day off work again to drive 100km round trip to collect my car when repaired. So I do think they should do something as a gesture for my inconvenience and expense. I can assure you I don't have any sense of entitlement, never have. I didn't purchase a 10 year old runabout from a back street garage. I purchased a premium 1 year old car from a reputable garage and spent a large sum of money in doing so.

Yeah, I'd be fairly pisced off too! Did they log the service in the service book? As a main dealer performed service?