Irish Resident travels to India to beat depression and ends up raped and beheaded

TheManTheMyth

A TOURIST who travelled to India to tackle her depression was drugged, raped and beheaded before her corpse was left hanging upside down in a forest.

The 33-year-old, who was born in Latvia but lived in Dublin, Ireland, with her partner, arrived in Kerala with her sister in February.

She was hoping to be treated at one of the region's popular ayurvedic 'healing rejuvenation' centres , reports NDTV.

But she went missing a few weeks after arriving in the country after heading to a local beach.

The suspected attackers - who are now in custody -  are local drug dealers. One reportedly has a history of sexually abusing men and women.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6209289/irish-woman-india-depression-raped-beheaded-forest-liga-skromane/

Young women and young men need to be educated that many of these places are not safe to go to . They may be safe when the authorities are on the ball and are protecting tourists for the sake of the income that the tourists bring in .

When / if the authorities take their eye off the ball then these places are often very dangerous places . Young people need the real information about these places and not have the truth held back from them .

degsie

Ah, another bright and cheerful AH thread. Gotta love it...

Timberrrrrrrr

TheManTheMyth wrote: »

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6209289/irish-woman-india-depression-raped-beheaded-forest-liga-skromane/

Young women and young men need to be educated that many of these places are not safe to go to . They may be safe when the authorities are on the ball and are protecting tourists for the sake of the income that the tourists bring in .

When / if the authorities take their eye off the ball then these places are often very dangerous places . Young people need the real information about these places and not have the truth held back from them .

I wholeheartedly agree

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/killer-of-polish-men-gets-two-life-sentences-1.662401%3fmode=amp

Curran murdered Pawel Kalite (28) and Marius Szwaijkos (27) outside their home on Benbulben Road, Drimnagh, on February 23rd, 2008.

The two Polish mechanics died when Curran stabbed them both in the head with a screwdriver. The attack followed a row between Mr Kalite and other youths outside a local chip shop

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sophie_Toscan_du_Plantier

Sophie Toscan du Plantier (28 July 1957 – 23 December 1996) was a French producer of arts programmes for television[3] beaten to death outside her holiday home near Toormore, Schull, County Cork, Ireland on the night of 23 December 1996. She was the wife of another film producer, Daniel Toscan du Plantier.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/galway-man-jailed-for-life-over-murder-of-swiss-girl-1.728304%3fmode=amp

Barry strangled Ms Riedo after having sex with her on a pedestrian walkway known as “The Line”, close to the Lough Atalia area of Galway city, on October 8th, 2007.

Ms Riedo (17) had only arrived in Ireland three days prior to that to study English at a language school in the city.

Hande hoche!

That's horrible. Assume most of those retreats and centers are just means to scam gullible visitors.

pleas advice

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I wholeheartedly agree
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first hit for 'foreigner murdered India' on google
245 deaths in 12 years, what's killing foreign tourists in goa

(fair enough the majority of them are not murders, but..)

SEPT 23 1989

Would love to go to taste the authentic curry but the rape and beheading afterwards wouldn't appeal

Chaos Tourist

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would love to go to taste the authentic curry but the rape and beheading afterwards wouldn't appeal

No it wouldn't appeal. Could they at least do it the other way around?

Franz Von Peppercorn

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I wholeheartedly agree

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/killer-of-polish-men-gets-two-life-sentences-1.662401%3fmode=amp






https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sophie_Toscan_du_Plantier




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/galway-man-jailed-for-life-over-murder-of-swiss-girl-1.728304%3fmode=amp

You literally had to go back more than 20 years for that piece of whataboutary.

Timberrrrrrrr

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

You literally had to go back more than 20 years for that piece of whataboutary.

It's not whataboutery, it's showing that no matter what country you choose (even our own fair isle) cnuts will be cnuts!

Pintman Paddy Losty

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

It's not whataboutery, it's showing that no matter what country you choose (even our own fair isle) cnuts will be cnuts!

Rape does seem to be be particularly prevalent in India to be fair.

Irish Praetorian

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

It's not whataboutery, it's showing that no matter what country you choose (even our own fair isle) cnuts will be cnuts!

Which is about as insightful an observation as the sky being blue or water being wet - what is more difficult but of a little more value is trying to quantify the extent to which different observations are true.

Honestly I couldn't give much of a damn about this question but one might contribute a little more by to the conversation with some fact, such as the fact that the Irish murder rate of 0.64 (per 100k population) compares favourably with the Indian one of 3.21. Otherwise these debates don't really go anywhere, people can just say 'wow this crime is bad' and reply 'well other crimes are bad too'. This may seem like a lot, it's not just directed at you, more generally.

brianregan09

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would love to go to taste the authentic curry but the rape and beheading afterwards wouldn't appeal

The curry would probably anally rape you on the way back out :P

SEPT 23 1989

brianregan09 wrote: »

The curry would probably anally rape you on the way back out :P

Always does

jmayo

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I wholeheartedly agree

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/killer-of-polish-men-gets-two-life-sentences-1.662401%3fmode=amp


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sophie_Toscan_du_Plantier


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/galway-man-jailed-for-life-over-murder-of-swiss-girl-1.728304%3fmode=amp

Why has WHATABOUTERY become so prevalent as a response to anything negative., but with way more than a grain of truth, said about foreign countries or people?
Of course that needs to be quantified by saying it only applies if t doesn't involve places like America or Israel.
It has now gotten so bad that one would expect to be lectured about the IRA laying mines for the Free Staters if one was to comment how Angola was full of land mines.
No matter how some would spin it one cannot say the chance of being raped and murdered in Ireland is comparable to that in parts of India, but of course that doesn't stop the Whaboutists.

Kuva

Saw a story last week where a 16 year old was raped, the parents complained to village elders, the rapists were fined a fiver or something, they got mad so beat the parents and burned the girl they'd raped to death.

India.

Kip.

Graces7

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Rape does seem to be be particularly prevalent in India to be fair.

Yes and often gang-rape.

Graces7

Hande hoche! wrote: »

That's horrible. Assume most of those retreats and centers are just means to scam gullible visitors.

Far from it. They are real, genuine and do so much good.. and the criminals know that female foreigners go there in numbers so that prey on them there. True opportunistic predators.

Wibbs

Irish Praetorian wrote: »

Which is about as insightful an observation as the sky being blue or water being wet - what is more difficult but of a little more value is trying to quantify the extent to which different observations are true.

Honestly I couldn't give much of a damn about this question but one might contribute a little more by to the conversation with some fact, such as the fact that the Irish murder rate of 0.64 (per 100k population) compares favourably with the Indian one of 3.21. Otherwise these debates don't really go anywhere, people can just say 'wow this crime is bad' and reply 'well other crimes are bad too'. This may seem like a lot, it's not just directed at you, more generally.

THough you're a more measured chap than me, I'd not be so apologetic in tone IP. This cultural equivalence western self doubt oh noes we're as bad bullshit, and it is bullshit, really grinds my bloody gears. It's so dammed prevalent on threads like this and in the wider world. Some religious nut jobs do something truly horrendous somewhere else and as night follows day you'll get someone going on about Catholic Ireland of the fifties. Mass rape kicks off somewhere else and as night follows day you'll get someone going on about how Ireland is a "rape culture". Of course the "somewhere else" is inevitably non western. To some this hands out a free cultural pass.

India has its moments, but it's also more than a bit of a kip™. An actual "rape culture" in the boonies, higher murder rates, mind boggling corruption, a huge gap between rich and poor(and access to services like medicine), a caste system that's still in play, lower than average literacy rate(and much lower for women), infanticide of baby girls, spending daft amounts of money on the military and pocket lining while a huge percentage of the population redefines breadline and poverty. The system and culture is so fucked the government needs to kick off campaigns to stop people shitting in the public streets. Yeah, so just like Ireland then. :rolleyes:

Atoms for Peace

Donal Trump has a two word description for such places.

Hande hoche!

Graces7 wrote: »

Far from it. They are real, genuine and do so much good.. and the criminals know that female foreigners go there in numbers so that prey on them there. True opportunistic predators.

Admittedly I may have been influenced by a recent Netflix series.

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Was in India a few months ago.
My hosts wouldn't let us walk down the main Street.
Had a chauffeur driven car take us everywhere

donegaLroad

maybe a bit unrealistic of me, but if it happened to anyone belonging to me, I would be straight out there looking for answers.

In the unlikely case that I would eventually find the perpetrator, I would take the law into my own hands, thereby saving untold numbers of other innocent people.

Certain religions believe in reincarnation in India. I would not lose a wink of sleep because of this.

Irish Praetorian

Wibbs wrote: »

THough you're a more measured chap than me, I'd not be so apologetic in tone IP. This cultural equivalence western self doubt oh noes we're as bad bullshit, and it is bullshit, really grinds my bloody gears. It's so dammed prevalent on threads like this and in the wider world. Some religious nut jobs do something truly horrendous somewhere else and as night follows day you'll get someone going on about Catholic Ireland of the fifties. Mass rape kicks off somewhere else and as night follows day you'll get someone going on about how Ireland is a "rape culture". Of course the "somewhere else" is inevitably non western. To some this hands out a free cultural pass.

India has its moments, but it's also more than a bit of a kip™. An actual "rape culture" in the boonies, higher murder rates, mind boggling corruption, a huge gap between rich and poor(and access to services like medicine), a caste system that's still in play, lower than average literacy rate(and much lower for women), infanticide of baby girls, spending daft amounts of money on the military and pocket lining while a huge percentage of the population redefines breadline and poverty. The system and culture is so fucked the government needs to kick off campaigns to stop people shitting in the public streets. Yeah, so just like Ireland then. :rolleyes:

First and foremost I cannot really challenge you on any of the statistical claims you make, nor do I intend to. Further to that I have no intention of professing any outrage that you brought up any of the statistics, as seems to be very much in vogue these days. I would only submit that there is perhaps one silver lining in this case inasmuch as mainstream society in India appears to recognize the foulness of these trends regarding the treatment of women, as actually being foul, rather than being some kind of religious virtue. As such, dealing with the problem, though no doubt a gargantuan process, should be a one way street.

If I could offer you some succour on the wider point of Western sado-masochism, I would simply mention you and I are not the only people who think this way, and more and more people reach the same conclusions as us as time goes on. I believe in a month of two the O2 Arena is going to be filled with people listening to three gentlemen speak about sober government and responsible argumentation, I suspect they will become more popular as time goes on.

Hector Savage

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Donal Trump has a two word description for such places.

And the hysterical left get more upset with him using words .. than the actual crimes themselves - that so rightly christen these places sh*tholes.


Let that sink in.

Grayson

jmayo wrote: »

Why has WHATABOUTERY become so prevalent as a response to anything negative., but with way more than a grain of truth, said about foreign countries or people?
Of course that needs to be quantified by saying it only applies if t doesn't involve places like America or Israel.
It has now gotten so bad that one would expect to be lectured about the IRA laying mines for the Free Staters if one was to comment how Angola was full of land mines.
No matter how some would spin it one cannot say the chance of being raped and murdered in Ireland is comparable to that in parts of India, but of course that doesn't stop the Whaboutists.

I agree. I don't agree with using what happens in India to label a whole country and a billion people but I'd agree that it is more dangerous there. And there's horrible attitudes to women that are quite widespread. There's also the caste system and Hindu nationalists are now in power.

Sin City

India is not a place I would ever go but I would imagine any woman thinking og going there to reconsider

They dont seem to value life be it man woman or child

They value women even less

That coupled with a rape culture


Stay away

Should have went to Trabolgan

Hande hoche!

Sin City wrote: »

India is not a place I would ever go but I would imagine any woman thinking og going there to reconsider

They dont seem to value life be it man woman or child

They value women even less

That coupled with a rape culture


Stay away

Grand with the cattle though.

Sin City

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Grand with the cattle though.

Not a lot of beef there though

Malayalam

I spent a year traveling off road in India a few decades ago. It was an amazing adventure, so much incredible unbelievable stuff happened. So many beautiful people, truly kind and civilised. So much potentially awful things and people too. One night spent in a room with barred windows and luckily a firmly locked door in a remote place near Goa with a baying mob of drunken local men trying to break in was a particular horror. Fellow female travelers were being raped and abused 30 years ago too, and not just by ruffians - by dentists, doctors, bankers. Local women constantly warned against being alone or going to certain places.

My daughter in her turn is a bit of a world adventurer and I have BEGGED her, on bended knee, with my hands clasped and head bowed, NOT to go to India. So far, thank God, she has not ventured there.

There are other places just as awesome and beautiful and intriguing where women are not widely regarded as mere objects to defile. Sorry to say so, given the very many decent Indian people who are just trying to live good lives. I don't know exactly what happened there. I have an idea it is partly the caste system and partly the clash of religious cultures that has been going on for a very long time. Viewing others as inferior or even animal-like is culturally engrained because of both these factors.

Mutant z

Yes you should avoid sh1thole countries like the plague why anyone goes to them is beyond me.

Wailin

Whataboutery....what a ****ing stupid term. Grow up children.

jmayo

Grayson wrote: »

I agree. I don't agree with using what happens in India to label a whole country and a billion people but I'd agree that it is more dangerous there. And there's horrible attitudes to women that are quite widespread. There's also the caste system and Hindu nationalists are now in power.

You did notice I said PARTS OF INDIA ?

And don't get me started on the caste system. :rolleyes:
Fecking institutionised class discrimination.