Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

AndyBoBandy

Great Lighthouses of Ireland being repeated again on Sunday evenings.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fantastic programme, and one of the few decent ones RTÉ have commissioned lately, but it was first broadcast only 6 months ago!!

Dr Brown

They need to start drug testing RTE presenters.


RTE has alot of coke heads.

kneemos

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Great Lighthouses of Ireland being repeated again on Sunday evenings.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fantastic programme, and one of the few decent ones RTÉ have commissioned lately, but it was first broadcast only 6 months ago!!

Seems like about three months ago. I've seen it on at other times as well since.

Vic_08

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Great Lighthouses of Ireland being repeated again on Sunday evenings.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fantastic programme, and one of the few decent ones RTÉ have commissioned lately, but it was first broadcast only 6 months ago!!

Anything half decent they make gets repeated constantly, it's so rare they make anything of quality they have to.

I think the only reason they stopped continuously repeating "Reeling in the years" was because they wore the tapes out.

How many times have they shown Father Ted, a C4 show that RTE would never have had the guts to commission.

RTE's public service output is barely adequate and the rest of their programming has no reason to exist on anything but a commercial basis.

If we can't get shot of them completely then it needs to be split with only the News/current affairs departments remaining publicly funded with everything else either sold off or operated strictly apart from any licence fee funding. If they want to continue to pay their entertainment "stars" massive salaries then fine, find some sponsors and advertisers willing to fund the programmes.

valoren

All that Shearer talk made me think of an analogy.

BBC = Premier League quality paying Premier League wages.
RTE = League of Ireland quality paying Premier League wages.

Ash.J.Williams

Marty Morrissey and Bernard what's his name have a show and now I doubt I could ever pay my license again

gormdubhgorm

valoren wrote: »

All that Shearer talk made me think of an analogy.

BBC = Premier League quality paying Premier League wages.
RTE = League of Ireland quality paying Premier League wages.

I am not that is completely true.
Look at the pay of Fair City actors v Coronation street and Eastenders.

Fair City:

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/heres-how-much-fair-city-actors-get-paid-for-a-day-shift-34707943.html

A lot of fair city actors had to double job as taxi drivers:

https://www.herald.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/half-of-soap-stars-from-fair-city-have-second-jobs-just-to-make-ends-meet-27994194.html

Coronation street (ITV)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3301452/coronation-street-stars-salaries-revealed-with-kym-marsh-netting-150k-a-year-to-play-michelle-connor-and-david-platt-star-jack-p-shepherd-on-200k/

https://coronationstreetupdates.blogspot.com/2017/04/coronation-street-salaries-revealed-who.html

Eastenders (BBC):

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/eastenders-casts-whopping-salaries-revealed-10192398

kneemos

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I am not that is completely true.
Look at the pay of Fair City actors v Coronation street and Eastenders.

Fair City:

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/heres-how-much-fair-city-actors-get-paid-for-a-day-shift-34707943.html

A lot of fair city actors had to double job as taxi drivers:

https://www.herald.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/half-of-soap-stars-from-fair-city-have-second-jobs-just-to-make-ends-meet-27994194.html

Coronation street (ITV)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3301452/coronation-street-stars-salaries-revealed-with-kym-marsh-netting-150k-a-year-to-play-michelle-connor-and-david-platt-star-jack-p-shepherd-on-200k/

https://coronationstreetupdates.blogspot.com/2017/04/coronation-street-salaries-revealed-who.html

Eastenders (BBC):

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/eastenders-casts-whopping-salaries-revealed-10192398

Not unusual for actors to double job I wouldn't have thought.
The main characters presumably make a decent wedge.

gormdubhgorm

kneemos wrote: »

Not unusual for actors to double job I wouldn't have thought.
The main characters presumably make a decent wedge.

That's the point they don't in Fair City.
Plus RTE works on a temporary contract scheme, for the majority of it's employees barring a few exceptions.

The J Stands for Jay

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I am not that is completely true.
Look at the pay of Fair City actors v Coronation street and Eastenders.

Fair City:

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/heres-how-much-fair-city-actors-get-paid-for-a-day-shift-34707943.html

A lot of fair city actors had to double job as taxi drivers:

https://www.herald.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/half-of-soap-stars-from-fair-city-have-second-jobs-just-to-make-ends-meet-27994194.html

Coronation street (ITV)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3301452/coronation-street-stars-salaries-revealed-with-kym-marsh-netting-150k-a-year-to-play-michelle-connor-and-david-platt-star-jack-p-shepherd-on-200k/

https://coronationstreetupdates.blogspot.com/2017/04/coronation-street-salaries-revealed-who.html

Eastenders (BBC):

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/eastenders-casts-whopping-salaries-revealed-10192398

Consternation Street isn't licence funded. EastEnders is show on TV in the States (at least it was when I lived there in 2001). I'm not sure Fairly ****ty is doing much to pull in revenue.

dublinman1990

Did anyone see your one who got gunged on the LLS? The show beforehand was going fine for a while although I felt for your one who went in the gunge tank.

The LLS is a strange show altogether considering your licence fee.

jk23

Vic_08 wrote: »

Anything half decent they make gets repeated constantly, it's so rare they make anything of quality they have to.

I think the only reason they stopped continuously repeating "Reeling in the years" was because they wore the tapes out.

How many times have they shown Father Ted, a C4 show that RTE would never have had the guts to commission.

RTE's public service output is barely adequate and the rest of their programming has no reason to exist on anything but a commercial basis.

If we can't get shot of them completely then it needs to be split with only the News/current affairs departments remaining publicly funded with everything else either sold off or operated strictly apart from any licence fee funding. If they want to continue to pay their entertainment "stars" massive salaries then fine, find some sponsors and advertisers willing to fund the programmes.

Something tells me that if they had to pay these 'stars' outside of state funding they would all be on a hell of a lot less

Jeff2

If one wants a copy of TG4 Ros na Ron show check out the price.

RTE Don't own the rights.
Idiots.

steddyeddy

Has there ever been an audit of how RTE manage their finance/our tax? I'd say there's some shocking waste going on inside there.

Kivaro

steddyeddy wrote: »

Has there ever been an audit of how RTE manage their finance/our tax? I'd say there's some shocking waste going on inside there.

I heard somewhere that this is done every 10 years by a North Korean government accountant that they fly into Dublin specifically for that purpose. They put him up somewhere in Temple Bar during his 12 hour stay.

RabbleRouser2k

steddyeddy wrote: »

Has there ever been an audit of how RTE manage their finance/our tax? I'd say there's some shocking waste going on inside there.

Strikes me as odd they have at least two 'how to manage your finances' TV shows-when they're the one's who need it especially most.

foxy farmer

At this moment on Saorview.
RTE 1 Leaders Questions live from the Dail.
RTE News Now Leaders Questions live from the Dail.
Oireachtas Tv Leaders Questions live from the Dail.
Almost as bad as Joe Duffy during the snow last year. 2 Tv channels and radio taken up with his guff. I'll accept it's after midday and not peak viewing but still.
160 per yr. Give us a bit of variety not this blanket repetition.

Diceicle

kneemos wrote: »

Not unusual for actors to double job I wouldn't have thought.
The main characters presumably make a decent wedge.

One of the actors from Fair City had their Malibu retreat damaged / destroyed by the wildfires there a few months back - so yeah, they must be paid reasonably well to have a home out in Malibu (?)

steddyeddy

A friend of mine is a camera woman in RTE. She's keen to learn a lot of new skills to make an effort trying new sorts of filming. The rest of the staff aren't quite possessing the same sort of work ethic however and refuse to undergo training and work longer than their contract stipulates. Regardless of the programming schedule she says camera man and the other workers will not put in any extra hours required so programs are paused to fit the limited work schedules of the very well payed, tax payer funded staff. The fact that they won't undergo extra training means that RTE has to hire in external companies for shows requiring specialist filming at a much higher cost.

They waste our money then demand more. It should become a political issue.

Boggles

Diceicle wrote: »

One of the actors from Fair City had their Malibu retreat damaged / destroyed by the wildfires there a few months back - so yeah, they must be paid reasonably well to have a home out in Malibu (?)

That lad owns some digital media company.

steddyeddy

foxy farmer wrote: »

At this moment on Saorview.
RTE 1 Leaders Questions live from the Dail.
RTE News Now Leaders Questions live from the Dail.
Oireachtas Tv Leaders Questions live from the Dail.
Almost as bad as Joe Duffy during the snow last year. 2 Tv channels and radio taken up with his guff. I'll accept it's after midday and not peak viewing but still.
160 per yr. Give us a bit of variety not this blanket repetition.

That's the difference between RTE and the BBC. When BBC receive feedback telling them that a change is needed they respond with a change. When RTE get feedback they go on the defensive and tell people they're wrong and more money is needed. We pay them for a service and when we complain they disagree and tell us they know best.

steamsey

steddyeddy wrote: »

Has there ever been an audit of how RTE manage their finance/our tax? I'd say there's some shocking waste going on inside there.

RTE have an Internal Audit department who would look at this stuff regularly. Reports would not be public. https://www.rte.ie/about/en/policies-and-reports/policies-guidelines/2012/0417/317459-rte-internal-audit-charter/

I don't believe the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General can audit them - nothing on the Auditor General's website regarding an RTE audit - https://www.audit.gov.ie/en/Find-Report/?keyword=rte&sectors=-1&topics=-1&years=-1.

The public would have no idea what RTE's Internal Audit findings are, whether they have been addressed etc. Probably needs a bit more transparency alright.

They do produce a detailed annual report here - https://static.rasset.ie/documents/about/2018/08/rte-annual-report-2017.pdf

Interestingly, in 2017, 86% of all TV licence fees went to RTE. Rest goes to a mix of An Post for collection, some to a fund and also some to TG4. Evasion rates steady at 15%.

Diceicle

Boggles wrote: »

That lad owns some digital media company.

Ah. That clears that up a bit. Fair play to him so. Hope his place wasn't totally destroyed either way.

kneemos

Fair City is an independent production afaik.

RTE wouldn't be paying them anyway.

RabbleRouser2k

steddyeddy wrote: »

A friend of mine is a camera woman in RTE. She's keen to learn a lot of new skills to make an effort trying new sorts of filming. The rest of the staff aren't quite possessing the same sort of work ethic however and refuse to undergo training and work longer than their contract stipulates. Regardless of the programming schedule she says camera man and the other workers will not put in any extra hours required so programs are paused to fit the limited work schedules of the very well payed, tax payer funded staff. The fact that they won't undergo extra training means that RTE has to hire in external companies for shows requiring specialist filming at a much higher cost.

They waste our money then demand more. It should become a political issue.

I've heard the stories.

Had to get a taxi a few years back, and the guy was telling me about friends of his, highly trained and highly skilled individuals working behind the scenes, having done more work and put in more hours than the folks in front of the camera.
Yet they're sitting on the floor, making sure the teleprompter is scrolling at the right rate.

One of em worked on the news, and HATED her job-seriously did. She was married and decided to leave it and go freelance, while taking care of the kids. IT was one of those jobs that was soul crushing.

Pa ElGrande

Householders in the dock at Limerick court over TV licences

Judge Marian O’Leary was also told if a TV licence has been taken out in the meantime and what the loss to the State was.

In cases where a licence has not been taken out, the defendant was fined €200 and ordered to pay €90 towards the costs of An Post.

A number of women who attended court gave evidence that they could not afford a TV licence but are paying for stamps.

They were given additional time take out a TV licence before the matter is finalised.

A handful of cases were struck out after Judge O’Leary was informed that a TV licence had been taken out since the inspection was carried out and that the total loss the State was less than €50.

TV licence non-payer in County Limerick doesn’t watch RTE, asks to be ‘cut-off’

The man in court for not paying his TV licence fee asked for RTE to be “cut off” from his home as he doesn’t watch it


A foreign national up in court for not paying his TV licence fee asked for RTE to be “cut off” from his home as he doesn’t watch it.

A total of sixteen men and women were listed to be up in Kilmallock Court, however, one case was withdrawn as the person had since died.

When Vitaly Shvaibovich, of Dromsally Woods, Cappamore, was called he asked if he could take the stand.

The TV licence inspector said he visited the defendant’s home on April 17, 2018 and that he was in possession of a TV without a licence.

Mr Shvaibovich said he is not from Ireland but is fully assimilated.

“I’ve been in this country for 15 years. When I bought the TV I wasn’t aware I had to pay for a TV licence. Nothing is given to you in the shop, nobody told me in the shop.

“We are living in a democratic state and can choose which media sources we pay for,” said Mr Shvaibovich.

The Cappamore resident said if he doesn’t want to watch the national broadcaster “just cut me off”.

“If I don’t pay for ESB they cut me off. I don’t want to pay the licence - cut me off please,” said Shvaibovich. Kilmallock Court heard that he answered the door to the TV licence inspector in his underwear because he works nights.

“He said I have to pay for a TV licence. If I don’t use the service that is not freedom of choice or freedom of information,” said Mr Shvaibovich, who asked Judge Marian O’Leary, “Can you cut me off”.

“I can’t but I can convict you,” said Judge O’Leary. She fined Mr Shvaibovich €200 and ordered he pay costs of €75.

Are RTE and the State one and the same? some people think so



You my need to hurry down to the post office (if you can find one) and pay a second licence if you want to watch the next thrilling series of 'Dancing with the Staff'.


New series of Dancing With The Stars ‘hinges on licence fee hike’



Big turn-off? TV packages can really drive up household expenses



Calls to abolish and replace TV licences as 14% don't pay the annual tariff

TV licences should be abolished and replaced with a Household Broadcasting Charge, it has been claimed.

The suggestion was made by Roddy Flynn of DCU in the EU-funded Media Monitoring Report for Ireland 2017 in a bid to combat the evasion rate.

Figures obtained using an FOI request reveal an estimated 14.1% don’t pay the €160-a-year tariff.

The report states: “The licence fee should be immediately replaced by a Household Broadcasting Charge to circumvent ongoing levels of revenue losses through broadcast licence fee evasion.”

It added the Department of Communications should also give additional funding to private media companies and not just RTE.

Don't private companies already get a fair share of the TV tax given RTEs use of contractors?

smurgen

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Marty Morrissey and Bernard what's his name have a show and now I doubt I could ever pay my license again

The biggest joke ever. Off to new York on one of the episodes talking to a plastic surgeon. Absolute nonesence all on the taxpayers dime.

kneemos

smurgen wrote: »

The biggest joke ever. Off to new York on one of the episodes talking to a plastic surgeon. Absolute nonesence all on the taxpayers dime.

The bit of it I saw was just nonsense. They just had Marty doing stupid stuff he'd never done before,like going on the DART??,a first for Marty,swimming the forty foot,and something about dipping his backside in an ice bath.

I think the whole sthick was because it was Marty,the other guy was a bit of a bystander in the whole look at Marty show.

smurgen

kneemos wrote: »

The bit of it I saw was just nonsense. They just had Marty doing stupid stuff he'd never done before,like going on the DART??,a first for Marty,swimming the forty foot,and something about dipping his backside in an ice bath.

I think the whole sthick was because it was Marty,the other guy was a bit of a bystander in the whole look at Marty show.

Couldn't care what they do once it's on the cheap.two dopes flying needlessly to NYC on a junket pisses me off.

AndyBoBandy

Dee Forbes should be dragged into the joint Oireachtas committee, and made sit though a few episodes of that utter sh1te and made to explain herself.