How do you deal with a snitch in work?

little miss sunshine1

Someone who deliberately tells tales on you, even if their own work is n't up to scratch? Also, if this person is very nice to your face but secretly bad - mouthing you to management behind your back?

I often wonder what motivates people to 'tell tales' on others. Would it not be better use of their time concentrating on doing their own work ,and keeping their own job, than wondering what other people they work with, are doing and not doing, and finding time to go to management 'bitching' about people?? I notice this in all female workplaces.

Tzardine

Snitches get stitches

Neyite

They are doing it to distract from their own professional shortcomings. What you'll often find is that lots of these types stir the pot and sit back and let others fight their battles for them. Look closely to see if there's a stirrer behind the tattle tale - often there is, and that's another one you also need to watch.

The best way to deal with them is to keep it professional, be very careful about disclosing anything personal, never give them anything that they could run to HR or management about, document your own work so they can't take credit for yours, and rise above them telling tales. And in particular, don't offer or be duped into sending their snotty emails to others or get involved in their petty drama.

Management want to be focused on running the business. Tattle-tales or people who go looking for things to moan about are the bane of a managers life. I've never met a good manager who thinks of them as anything other than petty time-wasters.

What management prefer are people who are calm under pressure, cheerful and gets on well with everyone and who has the ability to present a problem and a solution together that they can just sign off on and forget about. They like people who can own up to their own mistakes and fix them rather than try to pin blame on others.

skallywag

Neyite wrote: »

Tattle-tales or people who go looking for things to moan about are the bane of a managers life. I've never met a good manager who thinks of them as anything other than petty time-wasters.

Completely agree.

Such employees will typically stick out like a very sore thumb and also very typically fail to make any noteworthy career advancements themselves.

I would not spend too much time pondering this one OP if the management are in any way decent. This person is more than likely just harming themselves in the end.

Wanderer2010

Neyite wrote: »

They are doing it to distract from their own professional shortcomings. What you'll often find is that lots of these types stir the pot and sit back and let others fight their battles for them. Look closely to see if there's a stirrer behind the tattle tale - often there is, and that's another one you also need to watch.

The best way to deal with them is to keep it professional, be very careful about disclosing anything personal, never give them anything that they could run to HR or management about, document your own work so they can't take credit for yours, and rise above them telling tales. And in particular, don't offer or be duped into sending their snotty emails to others or get involved in their petty drama.

Management want to be focused on running the business. Tattle-tales or people who go looking for things to moan about are the bane of a managers life. I've never met a good manager who thinks of them as anything other than petty time-wasters.

What management prefer are people who are calm under pressure, cheerful and gets on well with everyone and who has the ability to present a problem and a solution together that they can just sign off on and forget about. They like people who can own up to their own mistakes and fix them rather than try to pin blame on others.

Well, that very much depends on the manager, I have had managers before that went through me just for showing a tiny bit of initiative or other managers who hate it when you own up to mistakes and prefer a culture of cover up.

_Brian

I’ve mamaged in a few different environments and these people are a fact of life.
But do know that managers know what they are like and much of their story carrying is through insecurities and shortcomings in their own work.

I find it’s nearly a distraction technique for many of them, they think if they point out some rubbish for you to look at you won’t notice or you might over look their issues.

little miss sunshine1

Are there 'snitches' in every workplace?

jimmycrackcorm

Worked with one once. Since then he tried to push his salary up by suggesting he was going to leave. They weren't having it and now he has to work away from home without an opportunity to find related employment back there.

Morale of the story is that snitches think they are too good and will find out ultimately that they're not.

Neyite

little miss sunshine1 wrote: »

Are there 'snitches' in every workplace?

Not always, but often. I've worked with plenty in previous jobs. This one seems snitch-free thankfully!

studdlymurphy

Mars bar unopened, honky dory empty packet and 8 used matches! Job done!

Heckler

I work with a guy and its actually part of his job to watch everyone and report back to management about every little issue he sees he deems inappropriate, while he carries on with his regular days job.

Only myself and 2 others knew about this originally but we made certain we warned everyone else on the floor.

And like someone else mentioned he's nice as pie to me while bitching about others and then bitches about me to the same guys he was bitching about.

I do everything in my power to avoid him but also do stuff to wind the **** outta him. Then when I get called on it occasionally by management I always have a valid answer. Why he accepted this role is beyond me. 2 faced prick.

silent_spark

OP, are you doing stuff that warrants being reported up the line? If you are, it isn’t ‘bitching’. From your posting, you sound young: if this is your first real job then you need to learn to manage relationships with your colleagues, and understand that not everyone is going to be your friend. Concentrate on doing your own job so you’re not doing anything that requires reporting to management.

lawred2

little miss sunshine1 wrote: »

Someone who deliberately tells tales on you, even if their own work is n't up to scratch? Also, if this person is very nice to your face but secretly bad - mouthing you to management behind your back?

I often wonder what motivates people to 'tell tales' on others. Would it not be better use of their time concentrating on doing their own work ,and keeping their own job, than wondering what other people they work with, are doing and not doing, and finding time to go to management 'bitching' about people?? I notice this in all female workplaces.

tells tales?

Is this a transition year mini company?

GreeBo

Depends on the situation, some people think others are "snitching" when actually they are trying to protect the business from wasters.

little miss sunshine1

lawred2 wrote: »

tells tales?

Is this a transition year mini company?

Sorry, what?

little miss sunshine1

silent_spark wrote: »

OP, are you doing stuff that warrants being reported up the line? If you are, it isn’t ‘bitching’. From your posting, you sound young: if this is your first real job then you need to learn to manage relationships with your colleagues, and understand that not everyone is going to be your friend. Concentrate on doing your own job so you’re not doing anything that requires reporting to management.

No. As a matter of fact, I was employed under the Wage Subsidy Scheme, which means my employer receives a subsidy from the Social Welfare of 5.30 an hour for my lack of productivity. I am in my mid 30s.

I am then expected to work in two places at once, told I am 'too slow' (physically) to do things at work, even though my employer receives the above money for that very reason. I was reported by a staff member for not getting the time to do a task, even despite my other workload. In fact, I know for a fact most of the staff are employed under the same scheme. It seems to me that the longer serving staff are allowed to throw their weight around, doing as little as possible, and furthermore, management want staff to be as fast as someone not employed under the scheme, yet claim the funding.

silent_spark

little miss sunshine1 wrote: »

No. As a matter of fact, I was employed under the Wage Subsidy Scheme, which means my employer receives a subsidy from the Social Welfare of 5.30 an hour for my lack of productivity. I am in my mid 30s.

I am then expected to work in two places at once, told I am 'too slow' (physically) to do things at work, even though my employer receives the above money for that very reason. I was reported by a staff member for not getting the time to do a task, even despite my other workload. In fact, I know for a fact most of the staff are employed under the same scheme. It seems to me that the longer serving staff are allowed to throw their weight around, doing as little as possible, and furthermore, management want staff to be as fast as someone not employed under the scheme, yet claim the funding.

OP, I think you’ve posted about this job before. I’m unfamiliar with the work scheme you’re on, but if you are that unhappy there I suggest you start looking for other work. But, please understand that other workplaces are likely to have similar standards and apply the same kind of pressure. If you have a case worker or other support I suggest you discuss the matter with them.

monkeysnapper

We have one in my work place , he over laughes at everything and is everyone's best friend ....to their face....

Everyone knows him ...bosses know him....

Carry on your own job and leave hin to his own self destruct life...I pity him to be honest and I believe he probably sufferers from depression as he has a lot of time off sick with bad back but can't see anything wrong with him lifting stuff at work..

beechwood55

I thought you had left that job OP?

tayto lover

Everyone should fill him with plenty of lies then the boss won't even pay him any heed.

drunkmonkey

studdlymurphy wrote: »

Mars bar unopened, honky dory empty packet and 8 used matches! Job done!

Can someone enlighten me to what you can do with some used matches an empty crisp packet and a mars bar??

B.A._Baracus

Snitching is playing the political game in a job. You run down others so you can bolster yourself. In theory at least. I hate it yet so many do it.
The sad truth is if you work in an environment like that you must do the same yourself. Even if only towards that person who loves to do it.

Mellor

little miss sunshine1 wrote: »

No. As a matter of fact, I was employed under the Wage Subsidy Scheme, which means my employer receives a subsidy from the Social Welfare of 5.30 an hour for my lack of productivity. I am in my mid 30s.

But there is presumably a lower limit to the allowable reduction in productivity. Which means there is still a minimum standard that you individually are expected to achieve. If you are reaching this standard, you've nothing to worry about.
However, if this "snitch" is in fact some sort of a supervisor, or senior staff member - then you might not be (assuming they are aware of your conditions of employment.)

fullstop

Sounds like the OP doesn't think her work needs to be of the same standard as others because the company gets a rebate.

little miss sunshine1

What are you talking about, fullstop?

It has absolutely nothing to do with 'standard' of work.

W.S.S. concerns productivity and time management.

All staff where I work, are employed under the scheme, including the longer serving staff. The employer has said they have no other means to employ anyone due to financial restraints.

It's rather hyprocritical of the supervisors to criticise those lower in rank about not being fast enough to do their work, and work in two places at the same time ( I'd like to see them do it :P) when they themselves are employed under the same scheme with the same concessions made.

Seems to me like the management have conveniently forgotten why they are getting the funding, and are acting like spoilt children, wanting everything their own way. They need reminding they don't receive that money for no reason.

Next time you want to write a poorly informed comment like the above, get your facts right before mouthing off. :P

Diziet

OP, if you are still in that job, you need to put all your efforts into finding something different. That's where your priorities should lie, dealing with the different people at work should not be taking up your headspace.

henryforde80

OP you have to put up with major crap in any job your working in. Whether with colleagues, bad management, 3rd parties or companies you support.

Just keep the head down and not make a scene and carry on doing your work as well as you can. Never give out about the colleague directly to other employees or to management. You sound like me when I was 25. Thought I was doing the work of two people and better than everyone else when in reality I wasn't and thought I was irreplaceable. I was probably around average on a team of 12.

What is probably happening is the management is asking this person how you are getting on and giving an honest answer.

If you kick up a fuss they will see you as a troublemaker and won't be long out the door. The last thing any company wants is a troublemaker.

You have to put up with crap in every workplace. I learned through experience that most workplaces are the same. Just forget about work after 5.30. You have to remember your just a number.

If you can't get over it then leave but you need to learn to deal with this BS instead of letting it get on top of you. It will be the best attribute you can get by going by your posts. It doesn't really seem like your overworked that much

And yes people that are there the longest usually have extra privileges. Are you 100% sure they are not doing extra work for the management in the background or working on side projects?

Cordell

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Can someone enlighten me to what you can do with some used matches an empty crisp packet and a mars bar??

Imply that he smokes weed at work.
"he got the munchies after lighting something up with those matches" wink-wink-nudge.

Mellor

little miss sunshine1 wrote: »

It has absolutely nothing to do with 'standard' of work.

W.S.S. concerns productivity and time management.

Production and time management is a measure of standard of work.

It's rather hyprocritical of the supervisors to criticise those lower in rank about not being fast enough to do their work, and work in two places at the same time ( I'd like to see them do it :P) when they themselves are employed under the same scheme with the same concessions made.

It's actually not.
The scheme means the acceptable standard is lower for you. But if you are not meeting your own lower standard, a supervisor would be expected to point that out. Regardless of being on the same scheme.

meadow1

henryforde80 wrote: »

OP you have to put up with major crap in any job your working in. Whether with colleagues, bad management, 3rd parties or companies you support.

Just keep the head down and not make a scene and carry on doing your work as well as you can. Never give out about the colleague directly to other employees or to management. You sound like me when I was 25. Thought I was doing the work of two people and better than everyone else when in reality I wasn't and thought I was irreplaceable. I was probably around average on a team of 12.

What is probably happening is the management is asking this person how you are getting on and giving an honest answer.

If you kick up a fuss they will see you as a troublemaker and won't be long out the door. The last thing any company wants is a troublemaker.

You have to put up with crap in every workplace. I learned through experience that most workplaces are the same. Just forget about work after 5.30. You have to remember your just a number.

If you can't get over it then leave but you need to learn to deal with this BS instead of letting it get on top of you. It will be the best attribute you can get by going by your posts. It doesn't really seem like your overworked that much

And yes people that are there the longest usually have extra privileges. Are you 100% sure they are not doing extra work for the management in the background or working on side projects?

To be fair, henryford80 - you are not in a position to say that the OP is not overworked that much. You have no understanding of the volume of work to be completed day by day.

However, in any job, what nobody likes (or needs) is a troublemaker, who runs to management over trivial things, to deflect from their own professional shortcomings, so management won't be on their back as often, or putting their work standard under the microscope, which is what sounds like what is happening in the OP's job.

So, you think that the OP would be a troublemaker by not letting themselves be taken advantage of, and asked to do the work of two, maybe three people, which in itself is totally unreasonable, so that the people who run to management can lie around all day doing nothing?

"Never give out about the colleague directly to other employees, or to management" - you say this, when it's clearly what the person doing the 'reporting' is doing to the OP.

Mellor

meadow1 wrote: »

However, in any job, what nobody likes (or needs) is a troublemaker, who runs to management over trivial things...

The person doing the reporting is the OPs supervisor. Reporting to management is not trouble-making, it's literally their job.

meadow1

Mellor wrote: »

The person doing the reporting is the OPs supervisor. Reporting to management is not trouble-making, it's literally their job.

At what point in the OP's first post, did they state the person doing the reporting was a supervisor?

How do you know it was not a fellow colleague of the same rank?

Mellor

meadow1 wrote: »

How do you know it was not a fellow colleague of the same rank?

Because I read the whole thread...

little miss sunshine1 wrote: »

It's rather hyprocritical of the supervisors to criticise those lower in rank about not being fast enough to do their work...

Hello 1

silent_spark wrote: »

OP, I think you’ve posted about this job before. I’m unfamiliar with the work scheme you’re on, but if you are that unhappy there I suggest you start looking for other work. But, please understand that other workplaces are likely to have similar standards and apply the same kind of pressure. If you have a case worker or other support I suggest you discuss the matter with them.

I take on board what you've posted.

However, fyi, a condition that is agreed between employee and employer when being employed under the scheme is that upon employment their is a mutual understanding that the employee employed under the scheme
has/ will have a loss of productivity of 20% or more.

In this regard my employer receives DSP funding of 5.30 an hour towards my weekly wage, from the DSP to compensate for my lack of productivity.

OMM 0000

I take on board what you've posted.

However, fyi, a condition that is agreed between employee and employer when being employed under the scheme is that upon employment their is a mutual understanding that the employee employed under the scheme
has/ will have a loss of productivity of 20% or more.

In this regard my employer receives DSP funding of 5.30 an hour towards my weekly wage, from the DSP to compensate for my lack of productivity.

You forgot to switch accounts.

More information on the Wage Subsidy Scheme if anyone's interested:

Wage Subsidy Scheme strands
The WSS is divided into 3 strands.

Strand 1 is a wage subsidy payment paid to the employer to make up the shortfall if a disabled employee has a productivity level of between 80% or less (compared to other staff). The employee must work at least 21 hours a week up to a maximum of 39 hours a week. The rate of subsidy is €5.30 a hour based on the hours worked. The maximum annual subsidy is €10,748 based on a 39-hour week.

Strand 2 is a payment to companies that employ more than 2 disabled employees. The "top-up" grant covers supervisory, management and other work-based costs. The top-up grant is based on the overall number of disabled employees from an additional 10% of the wage subsidy for 3 to 6 disabled employees to a maximum of 50% of the wage subsidy for 23+ disabled employees.

Strand 3 is a grant to companies that employ 30 or more disabled employees to enable them to employ an Employment Assistance Officer (EAO). The EAO is employed to support and assist disabled employees with their employment needs. The grant is €30,000 per annum.