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Will be lost in posts in the avengers thread

  • 02-05-2018 11:31pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭


    Am I the only one bored of all these superhero/Marvel/ DC universe whatever they are films ? I'm not high brow by any means at all. My favourite action film is Speed !! But these 2 plus hour CGI fests are a complete bore to me.

    And when they add them all together its even worse. The cliche one liners are flying. I tried watching Thor Ragnarok 4 times and fell asleep after an hour each time.

    Whatever happened to the like of (again) Speed, Die Hard (the good 3), The Rock, Face off, Air force one, Under Siege and on and on.

    Great entertaining action films that didn't need a cape, cloak, cowl, iron suit or godly hammer and bucket loads of CGI..

    Even great chiller/thrillers like Pacific Heights, Single White Female or Se7en never seem to be around anymore. And if they are they are a very pale imitation.

    Wheres the likes of True Romance, Goodfellas, ?

    Anyone recommend a non cgi infested action film, a non pg-13 horror/creepy film ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    There should be room for good quality action outside of the superhero genre, however I don't feel the glut of the latter is impeding the former.

    It can be done. John Wick being a good example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Yeah stay away from blockbusters unless you hear otherwise OP.
    They are mainly just money monsters.
    Research the films you watch there are still some gems out there but can go missing in the volume of stuff being churned out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭OU812


    Showing your age op. For the record, all great movies.

    Check out the likes of “A Quiet place”, “get out”, even “12 strong” for non chi-fest decent movies. They’re out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I love them, and more importantly, the whole family loves them, and we have a great time watching them all, often several times.

    When I want something more serious, I don't have a problem finding them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Yeah, I find them all pretty boring. I don't think I'm just some elitist movie snob or anything, but it's ~2.5 hours of inconsequential punching and flailing and posturing. Even the relatively good stories are so paper thin, it's difficult not to despair a bit when they're lauded as anything genuinely worthwhile.

    I don't hate them necessarily. I like a bit of mindless fun every now and then. But yeeesh, it is all a bit much.


    Although I don't think it's correct to say there aren't any good 'dumb' action films left. Mad Max Fury Road was phenomenal. John Wick. The Crank films were lots of fun. The first Taken. Plenty more.

    And there were plenty of dodgy blockbusters "back in the day" too.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Heckler wrote: »
    Am I the only one bored of all these superhero/Marvel/ DC universe whatever they are films ? I'm not high brow by any means at all. My favourite action film is Speed !! But these 2 plus hour CGI fests are a complete bore to me.

    And when they add them all together its even worse. The cliche one liners are flying. I tried watching Thor Ragnarok 4 times and fell asleep after an hour each time.

    Whatever happened to the like of (again) Speed, Die Hard (the good 3), The Rock, Face off, Air force one, Under Siege and on and on.
    ...

    It's funny that you bemoan the dominance of one Hollywood fashion, while lamenting the disappearance of another? They're not all from the same basket, but you went and name-checked some of the more prominent "Die Hard, but in ..." knock offs that popped up in the years after the progenitor became a smash hit / franchise. Hollywood exists in a continuous cycle of fads and gimmicks: go further back and I'm sure cinema-goers were upset at the death of the Western, the WW2 epic, the Jaws rip-off, etc. etc. The industry very much exists in a constant race to be second.

    There are still plenty of action films out there, they're just not the main Hollywood draw anymore; success such as The Raid and John Wick prove that there's still an appetite for 'simple' action films - it's just not where the executives see the trend at the moment.

    Equally, the crime thriller is arguably in ruder health than its ever been, still capable of drawing in top talent both behind and in-front of the lens: from the David Fincher version of Girl with a Dragon Tattoo, to Tom Cruise helming the Jack Reacher films, to ... uhh, the somewhat spectacular misfire that was Tomas Alfredson's The Snowman.

    Heck, just take a quick stroll through A24 or Blumhouse's catalogue and you'll find a plethora of solid, mid-tier thrillers, horror flicks and so on, that would tick the boxes you're looking for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭El Duda


    You know, you don't have to watch superhero films if you don't like them.

    I've never liked Underworld, resident Evil or Fast and furious films but I wouldn't go out of my way to complain about them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,734 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Like pixelburp said, Hollywood goes through cycles. The types of films you said you liked pretty much come from what Hollywood cycle was popular at that particular time.

    The reason the superhero movies (the Marvel ones in particular) are still popular is that they're mixing genres with superheroes to keep them fresh. Spider-Man Homecoming and Thor Ragnarok are both superhero films from the same year, yet are hugely different movies. They have the same style of general humour and superhero action, but the other half of each film is so different as to give a different experience. Ant-Man was a superhero/heist movie. Winter Soldier was a superhero/spy movie.

    Ultimately though, there's what... six, maybe seven superhero films a year? It's not that hard to avoid them, and there's still plenty of non-superhero films out there. The particular type of film you like, they just tend not to be that popular any more. Let's face it, you got Speed. But then you also got Speed 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,554 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Get Out, Ex Machine, Mad Max are all great films from the Last few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    I agree with the op...too many superhero movies, that are quite bland and repetitive. At least something like the first 2 Blade movies had lots of swearing, nudity and action...a more adult experience :pac: Give me that any day over Chris Evans and his beard!

    In general though, I think the movie business is so money obsessed that they don't prioritise smaller movies anymore, they just put all their money riding on the big ones that are guaranteed smashes. Look at the budget for Infinity War...300-400 million! You could make 10 really good smaller movies for that, but again that's riskier nowadays. They are all probably chasing the Asian market too, so they need bland, easily digestible spectacles that appeal to all.

    Look at something like Goodfellas...it cost 25 mil, and earned around double that. That sounds great back in the day, a healthy profit, but nowadays it's chicken feed. I do think there is a market for intelligent, well made movies for adults. I certainly would go see them. The best movie I have seen in years was Gone Girl (cost 60 mil, made 6 times that) which was very adult in theme (toxic marriage) mixed with a murder mystery. It probably helped that it was a best-selling book, but still. I do miss the genre of psychological thriller, which seems to be disappearing under the weight of superhero movies. Too many movies for kids, not enough for adults. And yes I have seen Get Out, which I thought was very over-rated, and I can barely remember it!


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    I don't have any problem with just skipping films that don't interest me (most of the MCU films of the last couple of years fail to catch my interest; ditto the new Star Wars), but I do find it frustrating how Disney in particular is throwing its corporate weight around and demanding special contractual terms for some of their films which distorts the marketplace overall for other films released at the time. In particular whatever scumbag decided that the "commit your biggest screen to TLJ for at least 4 weeks from release or give us an extra 10% of the takings for those weeks" thing was a good idea deserves a healthy tap in the ballbag. But even beyond that, the crowding around some MCU films is bizarre - my local Cineworld had 24 screenings a day of Infinity War on the Thursday to Sunday of its release. Which was accommodated by several smaller films (including horror films I was looking forward to) getting their release date moved forward and being allocated a single week of normal screenings before being dropped to morning screenings only.

    I'd like a bit more balance in terms of what's on offer at any given time, which is a bit of a problem when Disney's film lineup is the 800 pound gorilla and cinemas seem happy to cater to all their demands because of the guaranteed audiences they bring with them. Which then feeds into some viewers seeking out film experiences elsewhere, regardless of the fears of old men at Cannes or cinema managers over what that means for "the future of film"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    I agree with the op...too many superhero movies, that are quite bland and repetitive..

    Yeah but the point is the majority of people don't find them bland and repetitive, for me I feel I can trust the Marval series as I haven't regretted going to see any of them in the cinema yet, and that's a risk you take with films these days. Also generally speaking if a film had solid special effects mixed with good story/dialogue I feel I HAVE to see it on the big screen. I loved gone girl and recently enjoyed spotlight but I don't feel like needed to see them on the big screen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    The excellent American comedy Community had a dialogue between a guy who turned 40 and a younger colleague. In between lamenting not able to wear a white tee shirt without loooking like he hasn’t dressed and other calamities of age he said he wanted to be able to voice an opinion on those boring ass marvel movies and be taken seriously. In her reply the younger colleague listed the whips and thorns of youth and said she wanted to be able to admit that the marvel movies were boring

    I don’t mind the single super hero genre. Generally there’s a fairly big build up, and then it ends with one major CGI scene. A few verses with small choruses ending with a big chorus.

    Marvel movies are all chorus. All dessert, no starter. I can’t watch em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Marvel movies are all chorus. All dessert, no starter. I can’t watch em.

    Each Marval character has there own film which explains there origin and story before it gets into the real action. The ones that don't are because the origins has been established in previous films. It's grand if you don't like marvel, everyone has something that's very popular that they don't like, there's plenty of other films you can watch and talk about


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    The only marvel movies i ever enjoyed were the X-Men movies, all these guardian of the galaxy, thor and avenger movies are absolute garbage.

    DC Comics for the win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Deco99


    I like going to the cinema to watch the Marvel films, I enjoy them. I could detail why but the main point is I like going to the cinema to watch them. Thank god I wasn't around in the 50s....musicals...ugh...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Deco99


    The excellent American comedy Community had a dialogue between a guy who turned 40 and a younger colleague. In between lamenting not able to wear a white tee shirt without loooking like he hasn’t dressed and other calamities of age he said he wanted to be able to voice an opinion on those boring ass marvel movies and be taken seriously. In her reply the younger colleague listed the whips and thorns of youth and said she wanted to be able to admit that the marvel movies were boring
    .

    You're referencing Community as a criticism of Marvel films is intentionally ironic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,037 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Heckler wrote: »
    Am I the only one bored of all these superhero/Marvel/ DC universe whatever they are films ?

    No.

    They're insipid junk food movies.

    But, you don't have to watch. Haven't looked at one since 'Deadpool' and I haven't missed anything.
    Heckler wrote: »
    Whatever happened to the like of (again) Speed, Die Hard (the good 3), The Rock, Face off, Air force one, Under Siege and on and on.

    People got bored of that crap too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Deco99 wrote: »
    You're referencing Community as a criticism of Marvel films is intentionally ironic?

    Not sure the point there - it’s a great comedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Greyfox wrote: »
    Each Marval character has there own film which explains there origin and story before it gets into the real action. The ones that don't are because the origins has been established in previous films. It's grand if you don't like marvel, everyone has something that's very popular that they don't like, there's plenty of other films you can watch and talk about

    I know about the origin stories. I said I was ok with the single super hero stories. I think I’ve seen 3 Spider-Man origin stories.

    It’s the groups of heroes I find boring.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Deco99


    Not sure the point there - it’s a great comedy.

    Seriously? Ok just a wonderful coincidence. That scene is an in joke. The Russo brothers directed a load of Community episodes and are executive producers on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭Cows Go µ


    Not sure the point there - it’s a great comedy.

    I would say that it could be the fact that the Russo brothers were executive producers for a couple of seasons of Community and directed quite a few episodes before they went on to direct Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity War


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Cows Go µ wrote: »
    I would say that it could be the fact that the Russo brothers were executive producers for a couple of seasons of Community and directed quite a few episodes before they went on to direct Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity War

    Mostly community ended before their involvement in the avengers stuff. Not sure when this episode aired though.

    Largely irrelevant to whether the movies are boring or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,734 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Cows Go µ wrote: »
    I would say that it could be the fact that the Russo brothers were executive producers for a couple of seasons of Community and directed quite a few episodes before they went on to direct Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity War

    Plus Dan Harmon the creator of Community and writer of that episode (as it was the final episode) did some consulting on Doctor Strange, helping give ideas and doing some writing for reshoots after seeing a first cut of the movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Deco99


    Mostly community ended before their involvement in the avengers stuff. Not sure when this episode aired though.

    Largely irrelevant to whether the movies are boring or not.

    It's kinda perfect, like you don't really "get" the films, (I put get in quotes as I clearly don't mean in an intellectual sense, merely you don't enjoy them), same way you didn't really get the joke in community.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Cows Go µ wrote: »
    I would say that it could be the fact that the Russo brothers were executive producers for a couple of seasons of Community and directed quite a few episodes before they went on to direct Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity War
    Actually they came back briefly after Winter Soidler but before it's release for Community's 5th season. Joe Russo directed Donald Glovers final episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭eric hoone


    just too many super heroe flicks the last 10 yrs. They don't all deserve the film treatment. Some of them probably shouldn't live in the the same universe, eg batman+superman, Ironman and most of the other marvel gang
    OP right bring back big action block busters, we need a new John McClane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    eric hoone wrote: »
    just too many super heroe flicks the last 10 yrs. They don't all deserve the film treatment. Some of them probably shouldn't live in the the same universe, eg batman+superman, Ironman and most of the other marvel gang
    OP right bring back big action block busters, we need a new John McClane

    All well and good but how many John McClane action figures were sold. Don't remember Die Hard Lego sets either. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,037 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    mohawk wrote: »
    All well and good but how many John McClane action figures were sold. Don't remember Die Hard Lego sets either. :pac:

    If they were making the original 'Die Hard' today, it would be PG13 and there'd probably be a flood of action figures marketed for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    In the time you took to post that , you could have typed into google the type of movies you were looking for and had several suggestions

    Seems to be the cool thing now to knock Superhero Films, or come out with the with old cliche I've got super hero fatigue.....Go for a sleep then

    As others have pointed out if there not for you then don't watch, there is plenty of great movies out there that aren't big summer blockbusters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Tony EH wrote: »
    If they were making the original 'Die Hard' today, it would be PG13 and there'd probably be a flood of action figures marketed for it.

    Not really the modern day Die Hard is John Wick more or less


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭eric hoone


    I suppose Jason Bourne and Ethan from MI had a few good days out, I wonder who's the next big action hero, hopefully a bit funnier!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I don't think it's necessarily fair to blame Marvel Studios for creating a successful franchise that people clearly want to see; you only need look at the phenomenal success of Black Panther and now Infinity War for the raw numbers proving that. There are a clutch of problems with the franchise that are long and storied but honestly if there's any 'blame' to portion out about the state of blockbuster cinema - blame the other studios here.

    The MCU was built slowly, over the course of 10 long years using long-form storytelling hitherto unseen in Blockbuster cinema. Marvel started on a risk in the first place with Iron Man, and certainly didn't launch straight into any interconnected universes. They paid their dues, and let their franchise grow through characters that aren't even Marvel's most popular or well known (thanks to Fox maintaining the X-men licenses). Guardians of the Galaxy - a film involving a talking tree & space-Racoon - by any reasonable metric should have been a bridge too far yet it was carried off with gusto, imagination and charisma enough to make it one of the most beloved series of the MCU.

    Now compare that with nearly every other studio that's desperately, almost pathetically clamouring for a 'shared universe' of its own, none of which even attempting to build on the foundations Marvel carefully constructed. Perhaps the most desperate and misguided attempt of recent years was Universal's 'Dark Universe' experiment - one that died not once, but after two attempts (that Tom Cruise remake of The Mummy was the SECOND go, after 'Dracula Untold' also failed to ignite the box office). Sony's Ghostbusters reboot was ostensibly supposed to launch the 'Ghost Corps', a series of spinoffs, sequels and so on - again, falling on its face at the first hurdle. The list goes on and on.

    It's all well and good sniffing at the Marvel films - and if you just look at my very previous post on Boards, a review of Infinity War, I'm open about my hatred of the Russo brothers' bland, insipid direction - but when all's said and done they've built a rich, diverse universe of charismatic characters, stories and settings. Samey? Sure, but they've earned their success off the back of competent, enjoyable fare. Direct frustrations towards the studios who are trying to ape the concept without putting in the actual graft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    I find when people start off with the "Am I the only one..." they are already aware that they are in fact not the only one but rather are seeking validation. I'm probably guilty of this too.

    The fun things about films are you don't have to like them all. And any notion that there is no good movies or cinema out there at the moment is wrong. We like to look fondly back at the classics but we always forget about the awful movies that happen in between or during the same time. Unless so bad that we enjoy them.

    Also with the rise of the internet we have more at our fingertips, loads of options to watch movies we wouldn't previously have the chance too. You don't have to watch big blockbuster movies but can watch directors personal projects and independent films.

    Just look online for the genre you want and no doubt you will get given a lot of great films you have yet to watch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    The 'Hollywood works in cycles' is and isn't the case these days.

    Fact is when corporations took over the studios, the idea of making 100 million from a 30 million budget wasn't enough. Let's spend 200 million and make a billion!

    The middle got squeezed, which (up until Netflix throwing their money around) is why so many of the films mentioned in the OP's post weren't/aren't getting made.

    As far as natural cycles go, Super hero movies will hit a brick wall too. The day will come when writing the check for a Marvel movie will be genuine risk. I don't think Star Wars is going to do many favours in this happening. The saturation of big budget CGI that's coming down the line is going to breed an inevitable contempt. What do you replace the 200 million dollar super hero movie with though? Can't see anything out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,037 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Absolutely.

    The day will come when a massive failure will occur and I'm not talking about so called "failures" like 'Batman vs Superman' not breaking a billion. I mean a real failure, like a 200 million pic bringing in 10. A few of those and the current crop of superhero gibberish will be dead, or at least put on hold.

    There will always be a replacement for what came before though. There always has been, even in hollywood's darkest days.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Wait... speed is an action movie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    OU812 wrote: »
    Showing your age op. For the record, all great movies.

    Check out the likes of “A Quiet place”, “get out”, even “12 strong” for non chi-fest decent movies. They’re out there.

    This age thing is a ridiculous comment. I’m over 40 and enjoy the Marvel films.

    I don’t take them seriously though and forget about them pretty quickly, they’re just big entertainment fests that don’t leave a long lasting impression like the other films you mention.

    I do think there probably coming a bit too fast at the moment though.

    The one thing I don’t really get and is extremely popular is “Dead Pool”.

    To me it’s just smart arsed American humour with one-line retorts which is comedy of no real depth. People don’t really talk like that all the time and I find it very annoying. Turns me off the characters and makes it highly unlikely I’ll go and see it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Maxpfizer


    Heckler wrote: »

    And when they add them all together its even worse. The cliche one liners are flying. I tried watching Thor Ragnarok 4 times and fell asleep after an hour each time.

    Bit of a tangent.

    I really REALLY hate when people use this as a criticism of a movie.

    Doesn't it mean that you were just tired?

    If I got up on a Sunday after a lie in and had my coffee and then put on a movie then there's now way I'd fall asleep regardless of how good or bad or boring the movie is.

    Same if I was watching any movie late in the evening after a hard day. I'm likely to fall asleep even during the most interesting movie ever.

    Sorry, it's just a pet peeve. "I fell asleep" = the movie was boring/not interesting. What? Explain this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Heckler wrote: »
    Am I the only one bored of all these superhero/Marvel/ DC universe whatever they are films ?

    No, you are not.
    Heckler wrote: »
    I'm not high brow by any means at all. My favourite action film is Speed !!

    Speed is a good film! It's got a tight script that successfully creates tension and also builds character and the performances are solid.
    Heckler wrote: »
    But these 2 plus hour CGI fests are a complete bore to me.

    OK but superhero films aren't the only films to use CGI. Most big blockbusters use visual effects to a large degree, so it's a weird criticism to aim specifically at superhero films. Also, I know real stunts are generally preferred because they're real but let's not allow that to undermine the fact that a huge amount of time effort goes into each visual effects.
    Heckler wrote: »
    And when they add them all together its even worse.

    I couldn't disagree more and I think that it could have been terrible. Let't put aside superhero movies and look at team/ensemble movies in general; The Great Escape, Spotlight, or the Ocean's films, they're not easy and require a big balancing act. What the Russos have managed with IW and that amount of characters is phenomenal.
    Heckler wrote: »
    The cliche one liners are flying.

    Because superhero films were the first films to deal in cliche one liners. :rolleyes:
    Heckler wrote: »
    I tried watching Thor Ragnarok 4 times and fell asleep after an hour each time.

    That's one film. It's hardly a fair sample on which to base an argument against all superhero films.
    Heckler wrote: »
    Whatever happened to the like of (again) Speed, Die Hard (the good 3), The Rock, Face off, Air force one, Under Siege and on and on.

    This is an excellent question and one I have asked as well. It's almost like Hollywood's forgotten how to make them. Movies like John Wick and The Raid are great but the action is all too smooth and choreographed. I think The Matrix was a turning point in action films, there used to be a certain roughness to action scenes that you just don't really get anymore and maybe that is the visual effects coming in. But even the last two Die Hards completely failed to recapture it. I think the Mission: Impossible franchise is the closest we have at the moment to those kinds of films.
    Heckler wrote: »
    Great entertaining action films that didn't need a cape, cloak, cowl, iron suit or godly hammer and bucket loads of CGI..

    I think the reason visual effects has taken off so much is because you can do much more, you can go bigger and do things you couldn't with practical effects or cheaper that it could be done with practical effects. Sequels have always felt the need to go bigger, add to that that tehy're not only competing with the predecessor with other franchises the scope and action is always being pushed. This isn't unique to superhero films and it didn't start with them.
    Heckler wrote: »
    Even great chiller/thrillers like Pacific Heights, Single White Female or Se7en never seem to be around anymore. And if they are they are a very pale imitation.

    It's not a genre I'm particularly into but maybe you need to widen your gaze re
    film media. I listen to the Kermode and Mayo show and he covers every film released that particular week. It's hard to gauge from you post what kind of film goer you are (I probably should have gone through you post history) but it seems to me that people who complain about the superhero genre tend to be people who hear about films through the mainstream media and I say that because there absolutely are not too many superhero films, they merely receive the biggest coverage. As has been pointed out there are less then ten superhero films out this year (including The Incredibles 2) out of a total of well into the hundreds.
    Heckler wrote: »
    Wheres the likes of True Romance, Goodfellas, ?

    Netflix?
    Heckler wrote: »
    Anyone recommend a non cgi infested action film, a non pg-13 horror/creepy film ?

    Action wise, I thought Safe House with Ryan Reynolds and Denzel Washington was a great old fashioned action film that relies heavily on practical effects. Also as mentioned, John Wick and The Raid.

    Also this: https://twitter.com/mightygodking/status/989496821729841153
    Heckler wrote: »


  • Site Banned Posts: 2 Alpine Oak


    murpho999 wrote: »
    This age thing is a ridiculous comment. I’m over 40 and enjoy the Marvel films.

    I don’t take them seriously though and forget about them pretty quickly, they’re just big entertainment fests that don’t leave a long lasting impression like the other films you mention.

    I do think there probably coming a bit too fast at the moment though.

    The one thing I don’t really get and is extremely popular is “Dead Pool”.

    To me it’s just smart arsed American humour with one-line retorts which is comedy of no real depth. People don’t really talk like that all the time and I find it very annoying. Turns me off the characters and makes it highly unlikely I’ll go and see it.

    I view Deadpool like I view Batman and Robin, goofy superheroes winking at the camera trying to hard to be funny.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    murpho999 wrote: »
    This age thing is a ridiculous comment. I’m over 40 and enjoy the Marvel films.

    I don’t take them seriously though and forget about them pretty quickly, they’re just big entertainment fests that don’t leave a long lasting impression like the other films you mention.

    I do think there probably coming a bit too fast at the moment though.

    The one thing I don’t really get and is extremely popular is “Dead Pool”.

    To me it’s just smart arsed American humour with one-line retorts which is comedy of no real depth. People don’t really talk like that all the time and I find it very annoying. Turns me off the characters and makes it highly unlikely I’ll go and see it.

    He's the Merc with a mouth. He loses a lot of his character's purpose without those quips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    He's the Merc with a mouth. He loses a lot of his character's purpose without those quips.


    I hate Deadpool, it just really annoys me, but I think it could have worked without Ryan Reynolds. I despise that man...he thinks he is hip and funny, but really he is so frickin lame. Cannot understand how he gets movies...apart from Deadpool, I can't remember any movie of his that wasn't a flop, and he's exactly the same in every film. Wtf?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    I hate Deadpool, it just really annoys me, but I think it could have worked without Ryan Reynolds. I despise that man...he thinks he is hip and funny, but really he is so frickin lame. Cannot understand how he gets movies...apart from Deadpool, I can't remember any movie of his that wasn't a flop, and he's exactly the same in every film. Wtf?

    Deadpool aside, the Nines, Buried and The Voices are all good, and he's had several other films which did well financially. Maybe just file under "not your thing" and move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    i went to see a quiet place last week and there were 4 marvel trailers on before it. 4 !!!! for f sake.
    enough already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭ceegee


    i went to see a quiet place last week and there were 4 marvel trailers on before it. 4 !!!! for f sake.
    enough already.
    Were they repeating them? Avengers and Amtman are the only marvel movies coming out or out already. I guess Deadpool is a marvel property (though not a Marvel studios film). No idea what the 4th could be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭megaten


    OP if you interested in films that are no longer the norm its up to you to seek them out. Nobody is going to do it for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    ceegee wrote: »
    Were they repeating them? Avengers and Amtman are the only marvel movies coming out or out already. I guess Deadpool is a marvel property (though not a Marvel studios film). No idea what the 4th could be

    New mutants


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    There is a new animated kids movie featuring some young kids going around in Spiderman costumes. It's from Sony Pictures Animation & Marvel. I saw a trailer of it before I watched Sherlock Gnomes from the IMC in Dun Laoghaire recently as that movie is also made from Sony. The animated Spiderman trailer looked pretty good though. Was that one of those 4 trailers for Marvel or was it for something else?


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