Easiest way for an unemployed Irishman to get work to live in England?

griffincathal

Hi. Not here to tell you my entire life story but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what might be the fattest and easiest way to get employment to get employment in the UK. I'm 32 I've no practical experience as I've never and was out of education since 10. Tried a level 5 qqi course recently and it was too difficult for me. I'm just sick of Ireland. Never travelled. I'm desperate to get out of here. I feel trapped and powerless to do anything about it.

Blacktie.

Get some kind of qualification or skill and apply for jobs in that field.

Quadrivium

griffincathal wrote: »

Hi. Not here to tell you my entire life story but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what might be the fattest and easiest way to get employment to get employment in the UK. I'm 32 I've no practical experience as I've never and was out of education since 10. Tried a level 5 qqi course recently and it was too difficult for me. I'm just sick of Ireland. Never travelled. I'm desperate to get out of here. I feel trapped and powerless to do anything about it.

Plenty of work in construction over in the UK.
Hard work but it pays decent, start as a labourer for Bricklayers and put an effort in then maybe try to get on the trowel. You could easily make £1000 plus per week as a Bricklayer in the UK or 600 to 700 as a Bricklayers labourer.

Plenty of driving jobs over there too.

You have to apply for a National Insurance Number first, you should be able to do it in Northern Ireland or the UK but it takes a couple of weeks to process. You then might need a UTR Number if you work self employed. Loads of information on the UK websites.

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

Plenty of work in construction over in the UK.
Hard work but it pays decent, start as a labourer for Bricklayers and put an effort in then maybe try to get on the trowel. You could easily make £1000 plus per week as a Bricklayer in the UK or 600 to 700 as a Bricklayers labourer.

Plenty of driving jobs over there too.

You have to apply for a National Insurance Number first, you should be able to do it in Northern Ireland or the UK but it takes a couple of weeks to process. You then might need a UTR Number if you work self employed. Loads of information on the UK websites.

Are you thinking of the UK quite some years ago? There is very little casual employment available as the domestic economy is falling off a cliff in every way. There are construction jobs aplenty in Ireland by comparison.

Also the OP was asking well over a year ago.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

Are you thinking of the UK quite some years ago? There is very little casual employment available as the domestic economy is falling off a cliff in every way. There are construction jobs aplenty in Ireland by comparison.

Also the OP was asking well over a year ago.

I'm talking about now. The economy is booming in the UK, I think you're listening to too much of the scare mongering nonsense in the media. Rates for Bricklayers has gone up from £160 per day to £210 per day just in the last 3 years. There is loads of work, they have 3% unemployment.

L1011

You're delusional if you think the economy is booming in the UK.

Entered recession three quarters ago if stockpiling is removed. Retail sales off a cliff. Unemployment rate shored up by part time precarious work, record numbers dependent on welfare to make up for paltry wages.

Anyone stupid enough to take your advice will be on here asking how to get a plane fare home in November.

SEPT 23 1989

There will be great work opportunities for Irish people in the UK after Brexit

Think about it

joebloggs32

Register with some employment agencies. If your willing to graft and do the jobs the Brits wont do themselves, I'm sure there will be a job for you somewhere.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

You're delusional if you think the economy is booming in the UK.

Entered recession three quarters ago if stockpiling is removed. Retail sales off a cliff. Unemployment rate shored up by part time precarious work, record numbers dependent on welfare to make up for paltry wages.

Anyone stupid enough to take your advice will be on here asking how to get a plane fare home in November.

Far from delusional, I'm talking from first hand experience. Any property, construction, legal, finance or lower skilled person could literally go to the UK tomorrow and have a job within a week. That's a fact. Better pay and conditions than in Ireland too.

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

Better pay and conditions than in Ireland too.

You haven't got a clue.

What is your 'first hand experience', precisely?

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

You haven't got a clue.

What is your 'first hand experience', precisely?

It's you who hasn't got a clue. I have several construction contracts in and around London.
I've had work over there since 2015 and the offers for more work have increased month on month and are still going to this day.

What's yours?

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

It's you who hasn't got a clue. I have several construction contracts in and around London.
I've had work over there since 2015 and the offers for more work have increased month on month and are still going to this day.

What's yours?

"contacts" are not first hand experience.

You do not know what you are talking about. The UK domestic economy is in ribbons and only a fool would move there looking for an unskilled job when you can get one in minutes in Dublin.

You are trying to fight data - economic figures, % of people in precarious work, take-home earnings figures and so on - with anecdote at best.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

"contacts" are not first hand experience.

You do not know what you are talking about. The UK domestic economy is in ribbons and only a fool would move there looking for an unskilled job when you can get one in minutes in Dublin.

You are trying to fight data - economic figures, % of people in precarious work, take-home earnings figures and so on - with anecdote at best.

You appear to have a problem with basic comprehension. I said CONTRACTS not contacts.

I've worked there for years. The economy in the UK is booming, you must not have relevant market skills so you're assuming it applies to everyone.

The wages and conditions in Ireland are crap despite the recession being over years, not to mention the astronomical cost of living, rent etc. the UK is 10 times better in every way.

L1011

Your posting history indicates you have worked in security (not construction) and are looking for entry level driving jobs in Ireland. I do not believe you have any experience in this at all and are possibly doing a total Walter Mitty on this.

The UK is in an awful state and has entered recession - the exact opposite of "booming". You may have convened yourself of something else but it does not tally with reality.

The OP is more likely to find unskilled construction jobs in Dublin than in the UK - you are giving awful "advice". The best thing anyone can do is ignore you.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

Your posting history indicates you have worked in security (not construction) and are looking for entry level driving jobs in Ireland. I do not believe you have any experience in this at all and are possibly doing a total Walter Mitty on this.

The UK is in an awful state and has entered recession - the exact opposite of "booming". You may have convened yourself of something else but it does not tally with reality.

The OP is more likely to find unskilled construction jobs in Dublin than in the UK - you are giving awful "advice". The best thing anyone can do is ignore you.

I am a Bricklayer by trade. I made a significant sum of cash in the UK over the last 4 years working as a Bricklaying sub contractor. I still have lads working over there now, so much that I can explore other career avenues.

The self employed driving was to tide me over until I decided what I would do. I am starting a masters next month which will be full time and fully funded by some of the profit I made in the UK. I plan to go into a totally different career, all made possible by the money I earned in the UK. I'd stay over there full time only for the battle axe won't have it.

The UK is booming particularly in construction, you obviously have some sort of horse in this race to be pushing such nonsense. I can name 2 Facebook groups where there are ads for Bricklayers and Hoddies every day. Bricklaying Jobs UK and Elite Bricklayers. Go and look for yourself. You don't know what your talking about, you're trying to talk down the UK because you're some sort of Europhile, I can see no other reason. You haven't offered a shred of evidence.

L1011

The self employed entry-level driver stuff was 3 months ago, not four years ago. Walter Mitty.

You are trying to defy the actual UK economic figures. Facts outweigh Mittyism.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

Your posting history indicates you have worked in security (not construction) and are looking for entry level driving jobs in Ireland. I do not believe you have any experience in this at all and are possibly doing a total Walter Mitty on this.

The UK is in an awful state and has entered recession - the exact opposite of "booming". You may have convened yourself of something else but it does not tally with reality.

The OP is more likely to find unskilled construction jobs in Dublin than in the UK - you are giving awful "advice". The best thing anyone can do is ignore you.

One such advertisement for labourers as follows:

*McLaren Resourcing*

*We need the following labour:*

*X2 Blue Cscs Bricklayer to start in South London*

£20 per hour
9.5 hour days

Please call Andy - xxx xxxxxx

Thanks
Andy

You won't get a labouring Job in Ireland paying €23 per hour.

And thats3very low pay for the UK, particularly London. I pay lads £215 per day for an 8 hour day.

L1011

Anyone with a skilled CSCS card is not entry level. You are desperately googling for stuff you don't understand.

The UK is in ribbons and only an idiot would listen to a Mitty telling them there's streets (or sites) paved with gold when they have no training and no skills

Quadrivium

And another one, I'm removing the phone numbers for obvious reasons.

Bricklayers and hod carriers wanted in Ashford Kent

8 Years work One week in hand paid every Tuesday

FOOTING WORK

I DONT PAY FOR DIGS IF YOU DONT LIVE NEAR OR IN ASHFORD AND ARE NOT WILLING TO TRAVEL

THERE IS NO NEED TO COMMENT OR APPLY

Must have CSCS card hard hat, steel toe boots, and viz

730 AM start 330PM Latest Finish Normally gone by 3

Bricklayers £190

Hods £125 Negotiable depending on experience

top hods paid 150+

2 PM Finish Friday full shift paid

Price work also available

Saturdays Available

mgn

Construction is booming in the UK at the moment.I have mates that went back there during the recession and the have never being busier.
In my younger days London was the place to be for big jobs and big money but now you have plenty of work up the north of England as well.

punisher5112

This thread is a year old

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

Anyone with a skilled CSCS card is not entry level. You are desperately googling for stuff you don't understand.

The UK is in ribbons and only an idiot would listen to a Mitty telling them there's streets (or sites) paved with gold when they have no training and no skills

Anyone can get a CSCS card, it's the same as a safe pass. You need a trade to get a blue CSCS card. Labourers get a green one.

I just posted an add iffering between £125 and £150 a day for unskilled labour. I'm correct and you're wrong, just accept it.

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

Anyone can get a CSCS card, it's the same as a safe pass. You need a trade to get a blue CSCS card. Labourers get a green one.

I just posted an add iffering between £125 and £150 a day for unskilled labour. I'm correct and you're wrong, just accept it.

You posted an add requiring a skilled CSCS as if it was suitable for unskilled labour.

You are literally just scrabbling for content at this stage. You are delusional. Go back to the van driving in Ireland and stop pretending to be what you're not - its not of any advantage to you.

Quadrivium

punisher5112 wrote: »

This thread is a year old

Not any more. There's good info here for anyone looking for good pay and a change of scenery.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

You posted an add requiring a skilled CSCS as if it was suitable for unskilled labour.

You are literally just scrabbling for content at this stage. You are delusional. Go back to the van driving in Ireland and stop pretending to be what you're not - its not of any advantage to you.

I'll say it once more because your comprehension is a bit slack. Anyone can get a CSCS, an unskilled one is green. Google it if you doubt me. You don't know what you're talking about and your ego won't allow you to accept you're wrong, but you are.

punisher5112

Quadrivium wrote: »

Not any more. There's good info here for anyone looking for good pay and a change of scenery.

Ok.... So UK is going to be hit with Brexit and outside the EU they're trying to stop all the outside workers and it's going to mess with jobs too.


Look at all the Brits that live away from home in say Spain..... Where are they going to return to....

People are going to have to leave the UK also.

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

I'll say it once more because your comprehension is a bit slack. Anyone can get a CSCS, an unskilled one is green. Google it if you doubt me. You don't know what you're talking about and your ego won't allow you to accept you're wrong, but you are.

Quadrivium wrote: »

*X2 Blue Cscs Bricklayer to start in South London* .

You aren't even reading the random ads you're googling.

You are delusional.

Darc19

There are certainly jobs in the uk and both "warring posters" are correct.

Economy is doing OK, but is falling back.

However due to brexit, a lot of EU casual / seasonal workers don't bother with uk now, so plenty of farm work / low skilled building work about.

Problem is cost of living in areas with these jobs is high, tax comes in at a far lower level than here and unemployment benefits are dreadful.

If you have health issues, expect 3 weeks wait to see a doctor.

Try it for a couple of months, but I suspect it won't be the promised land you thought.

Quadrivium

And another,

5 bricklayers
2 hod carriers (labourers)
Required to start Tuesday 27/08/2019
Pay rates:
Bricklayers - £24 per hour 8.5 hours day
Hods - £15 per hour 8.5 hours day
Monday -Friday
8 -12 weeks
East Moseley KT8 9DX

Please call xxxxxxxxxx
Allied Site Services Ltd

L1011

I have a search engine, I don't need your desperate attempts to find job ads I'll never apply for and the OP is not qualified to do.

Quadrivium

Darc19 wrote: »

There are certainly jobs in the uk and both "warring posters" are correct.

Economy is doing OK, but is falling back.

However due to brexit, a lot of EU casual / seasonal workers don't bother with uk now, so plenty of farm work / low skilled building work about.

Problem is cost of living in areas with these jobs is high, tax comes in at a far lower level than here and unemployment benefits are dreadful.

If you have health issues, expect 3 weeks wait to see a doctor.

Try it for a couple of months, but I suspect it won't be the promised land you thought.

The cost of living in the UK outside London is nowhere near as bad as Ireland which economically is basically Dublin.

I had sites in Maidenhead outside London, Bricklayers making £1100 per week and rent for a 2 bed flat in town centre was only 900 per month.

Shopping, electricity and other consumables were much cheaper than in Ireland. The UK leaves Ireland in the dust when it comes to opportunities.

mgn

L1011 wrote: »

I have a search engine, I don't need your desperate attempts to find job ads I'll never apply for and the OP is not qualified to do.

Just admit it you haven't a clue what's happening over there in construction.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

I have a search engine, I don't need your desperate attempts to find job ads I'll never apply for and the OP is not qualified to do.

Unskilled Labourers in the UK are making on average £650 to £700 GBP per week (more on price work) I know that irks you for whatever reason but that's the reality.

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

The cost of living in the UK outside London is nowhere near as bad as Ireland which economically is basically Dublin.

I had sites in Maidenhead outside London, Bricklayers making £1100 per week and rent for a 2 bed flat in town centre was only 900 per month.

Shopping, electricity and other consumables were much cheaper than in Ireland. The UK leaves Ireland in the dust when it comes to opportunities.

If you "had sites" why did you have to ask about doing minimum wage equivalent driving jobs?

You are making all of this up.

Quadrivium

punisher5112 wrote: »

Ok.... So UK is going to be hit with Brexit and outside the EU they're trying to stop all the outside workers and it's going to mess with jobs too.


Look at all the Brits that live away from home in say Spain..... Where are they going to return to....

People are going to have to leave the UK also.

Not really true.

The government of Ireland act will still apply to Irish people. We will still have freedom of movement as will the Brits, this legal agreement pre dates the EU.

People already living in the UK won't be removed, future immigration for the rest of the EU will be skills, points based and rightly so.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

If you "had sites" why did you have to ask about doing minimum wage equivalent driving jobs?

You are making all of this up.

I.already explained. I don't have to work, I have a brand new van just sitting in my drive way and a jeep. I'm bored waiting on the Masters to start so I done self employed courier work for the craic. Don't make assumptions buddy, I also have a Business Degree from the highest ranked business school in Ireland. You're just bitter and salty because unskilled labourers in the UK are earning as much, more or close to what you earn and it's killing you.

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

I.already explained. I don't have to work, I have a brand new van just sitting in my drive way and a jeep. I'm bored waiting on the Masters to start so I done self employed courier work for the craic. Don't make assumptions buddy, I also have a Business Degree from the highest ranked business school in Ireland. You're just bitter and salty because unskilled labourers in the UK are earning as much, more or close to what you earn and it's killing you.

You'd do an effectively minimum wage, high stress job with all those qualifications and skills and sub-contractors?



Just give it up. You are making stuff up. Your post history is public, planning to buy a second hand 2016 van is not "have a brand new van" for starters.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

If you "had sites" why did you have to ask about doing minimum wage equivalent driving jobs?

You are making all of this up.

By the way, self employed delivery drivers are not on minimum wage. The average is €800 per week up to €1100 at busy periods. You really haven't a clue about much, have you?

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

By the way, self employed delivery drivers are not on minimum wage. The average is €800 per week up to €1100 at busy periods. You really haven't a clue about much, have you?

€800 a week before the costs of the van. Its an entry level, low income job. Its not something someone as apparently skilled and qualified as yourself would do.

You are delusional. Give it up.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

You'd do an effectively minimum wage, high stress job with all those qualifications and skills and sub-contractors?



Just give it up. You are making stuff up. Your post history is public, planning to buy a second hand 2016 van is not "have a brand new van" for starters.

You're so out of your depth it's actually hilarious. I was making well over 6 figures per year in the UK as a subbie with 7 sites. Self employed couriers can make up to €1000 per week. Please, stop, you're embarrassing yourself now.

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

You're so out of your depth it's actually hilarious. I was making well over 6 figures per year in the UK as a subbie with 7 sites. Self employed couriers can make up to €1000 per week. Please, stop, you're embarrassing yourself now.

The threads you posted in to ask about buying a second-hand van to go it (not the "having" a "brand new" van as you claim) give info on how limited the income actually is.

Why would you give up "six figure" in the UK for "up to" €52k?

You are delusional. Give it up.

If you're not delusional, you're trolling. Which is it?

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

€800 a week before the costs of the van. Its an entry level, low income job. Its not something someone as apparently skilled and qualified as yourself would do.

You are delusional. Give it up.

😂 I've done worse jobs. I'm a self made man, financially secure with side businesses all over the place, online, offline. I do whatever I want, courier work wasn't a career change, it was a bit if craic meeting people, getting out of the house and keeping me busy until the Msc starts. I'm not going back in the trowel.

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

�� I've done worse jobs. I'm a self made man, financially secure with side businesses all over the place, online, offline. I do whatever I want, courier work wasn't a career change, it was a bit if craic meeting people, getting out of the house and keeping me busy until the Msc starts. I'm not going back in the trowel.

You're a delusional Walter Mitty asking basic level advice on here for a minimum wage equivalent job.

Quadrivium

L1011 wrote: »

The threads you posted in to ask about buying a second-hand van to go it (not the "having" a "brand new" van as you claim) give info on how limited the income actually is.

Why would you give up "six figure" in the UK for "up to" €52k?

You are delusional. Give it up.

If you're not delusional, you're trolling. Which is it?

Real question, are you slow or taking the piss? I explained 5 times already, I'm starting a Masters in September and going into a totally different career out of interest. Money isn't everything, I.want to pursue my interests and Construction isn't part of that. Point remains, I'm right, you're wrong and now I'm out. Have a super weekend ðŸ‘

L1011

Quadrivium wrote: »

Real question, are you slow or taking the piss? I explained 5 times already, I'm starting a Masters in September and going into a totally different career out of interest. Money isn't everything, I.want to pursue my interests and Construction isn't part of that. Point remains, I'm right, you're wrong and now I'm out. Have a super weekend ðŸ‘

You've blustered away 5 times, at best.

You're a complete Mitty and hopefully you give that up before it comes back to bite you.

punisher5112

Is there any mods to end this bull crap. ...

600 - 700 sterling for labourer job.... Oh dear lord jebus

Forty Seven

I live in the UK. I just left a groundskeeping job on a campsite. Light gardening etc. I was paid £500 a week. Before that I was working in a car dealership as a parts advisor for £23,000 pa. Construction pays much more and there are plenty jobs. Going into the antique trade myself, no longer need the job. Plenty money flowing here. Everybody is driving new cars. Plenty fruit picking jobs in Dundee due to EU nationals leaving, cheap living there too. The Brexit scaremongering is nonsense. Life will go on as always, just as it did after much bigger shocks than leaving a trading bloc.

As for a 3 week wait to see a doctor. Only if you want an appointment. With free at the point of use healthcare you get a lot of no-shows. I can go to my doctor any morning and wait to be seen. All doctors have moved to this to stop timewasters but of course it is reported with a scaremongering diatribe. I went on Friday and was seen in 30 minutes. It is a better system.

punisher5112

Forty Seven wrote: »

I live in the UK. I just left a groundskeeping job on a campsite. Light gardening etc. I was paid £500 a week. Before that I was working in a car dealership as a parts advisor for £23,000 pa. Construction pays much more and there are plenty jobs. Going into the antique trade myself, no longer need the job. Plenty money flowing here. Everybody is driving new cars. Plenty fruit picking jobs in Dundee due to EU nationals leaving, cheap living there too. The Brexit scaremongering is nonsense. Life will go on as always, just as it did after much bigger shocks than leaving a trading bloc.

As for a 3 week wait to see a doctor. Only if you want an appointment. With free at the point of use healthcare you get a lot of no-shows. I can go to my doctor any morning and wait to be seen. All doctors have moved to this to stop timewasters but of course it is reported with a scaremongering diatribe. I went on Friday and was seen in 30 minutes. It is a better system.

Sold I'm on the way.... House left, car left, wife left oh and bonus kid left.... I'm in the UK.... Where does I sign up

Atlantic Dawn

You need decent skills, this lad has skill he makes it look like art, if you get to his level you will never go hungry...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pm11xypzAA

punisher5112

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

You need decent skills, this lad has skill he makes it look like art, if you get to his level you will never go hungry...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pm11xypzAA

Machine will do it faster

Forty Seven

punisher5112 wrote: »

Sold I'm on the way.... House left, car left, wife left oh and bonus kid left.... I'm in the UK.... Where does I sign up

I used to have all that too in Galway. After family court I was left with just the debt. Came back home and am now in a 2 bed semi in a nice area with a new wife, new car and a kid on the way. 2 years here and I'm about to start my own business.

Clearly you're not in that position but it doesn't mean it cannot be done which I believe was the initial premise of this discussion. (Albeit a little late)

There is an abundance of scaremongering about Brexit, non more so than the bile filled Brexit threads I have been following on here.