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What is the best tractor ever made?

  • 26-04-2018 12:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭


    In terms of reliability, providing the owner knows to look after it.
    My vote would be a John Deere 3050.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Mtx wrote: »
    In terms of reliability, providing the owner knows to look after it.
    My vote would be a John Deere 3050.

    In terms of reliability, even if the multiple owners hadn't a Barney how to look after it :D .
    My vote would be the old reliable MF 135.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    10 series deeres would be my pick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭White Clover


    10 series deeres would be my pick.

    I would have to agree. Drove a 6910 for a summer and it impressed me every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    There needs to be categories in this question.

    Many will claim they were overated but the MF 300 series were fantastic stockman tractors.

    Or Fiat 110-90 for someone spending a bit more time at field work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    I would say that a JD 7810 would have to be high up on the list if not at the very top

    Tractors like MF 135/165 and Ford 4000 did serious amounts of work in their time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭Cran


    135 purely on reliability and work done, father who worked from horse’s up to early 00’s tractors said 1000 series fords were the ones that worked far beyond expectations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Deere 4020 Powershift.


    Followed by a Deere 6800 or 6900


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    This could be a long one:eek:

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    In terms of worldwide success and longevity, I would go for the humble Fergie 20.

    Displaced the horse and a lot of drudgery from many an Irish farm. Hated by salesmen of Ford and David Brown, they called them 'the grey menace' as they appeared like mushrooms in farms all over the uk and Irl.

    Popularised the hydraulic 3 point hitch and designed by an Irishman, what's not to like? Set the standard for tractors that followed. Many still earning their keep to this day or as collectors' items. Approx 1 million (including derivatives) rolled off the production lines.

    They even went to the Antarctic.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Trans-Antarctic_Expedition#/media/File:Tractors_in_Antarctica_(1957).JPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    its hard to pick just one, as every few years the demands put on a machine increases. mine would be
    1950s - 1960s: MF 35
    1970s: MF 100 series
    1980s: Fiat 90 series (mainly the 110-90)
    1990s: John Deere 6010 series
    2000+ unsure....maybe Armatrac :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    The break shoes were changed for the first time on my great uncles t20 last summer.

    Doing the gearbox oil this summer. That was done before though........ about 25 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭on the river


    100 series MF

    My 135 is 60 years old full of determination. As I drive it along the countryside and push its strength in carrying round bales. I know I have more then just a tractor. To me it’s a reliable friend. God bless Ferguson Harris


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    I've fond memories of a certain MF 65 and driving hell for leather turning hay with a Vicon Lely. Doors off the cab for the summer heat. Compared to modern tractors it would be like comparing a Willys Jeep to LandCruiser.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    its hard to pick just one, as every few years the demands put on a machine increases. mine would be
    1950s - 1960s: MF 35
    1970s: MF 100 series
    1980s: Fiat 90 series (mainly the 110-90)
    1990s: John Deere 6010 series
    2000+ unsure....maybe Armatrac :P

    I would largely agree with this, maybe Valmet's 8050 would have a place.. serious hrs put up on them and commanding great money today.

    MF300 series is over rated and over priced in my opinion..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    larthehar wrote: »
    MF300 series is over rated and over priced in my opinion..

    They have certainly been overpriced over the years. But there is a reason they held their value for so long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    In fairness most of us will refer back to tractors we’ve grown up with and are used to.
    Individual poor examples will taint us.

    We had a Ford 3000 here in the early 70’s and it was pure scrap.

    The David Brown 880 Selectamatic that followed it was pure gold and we’ve had a David Brown on the farm since.

    Personally. David Brown 996 4wd was a top class tractor but relatively few were sold here. Big enough to do a lot of work yet tidy enough to be handy round the yard.

    Here’s no tillage near us so great hulks of tractors were never a thing in this area until contractors got large.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    What the best tractor is selective. None of us would go back to floor shift gears and electric back lifts are a gift. Often tractors got a bad name for changing with the times. Everyone gave out about the MF 3 series shuttle because if it went spitting a tractor was an expensive business, the spitter on the case 42 series (4230 etc) seemed a big issue 10-15 years ago but now is not seen as the same issue. The ford 10 series spindle into the pressure plate was a bogey but again the 10 series were one of the first contracting tractors the last of them had a porous block.

    It was no fun starting a 1 series or any of the older tractor back in the 70's if the starter was begining to go dodgy. None of those tractors have done the work of tractors, that tractors in the 80's and 90's and the more modern tractors are doing. Lots of the smaller tractors spend half there time ticking over.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Leyland 262 - my first;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭Rave.ef


    County;):pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    MF 590, cant bring myself to get rid of it. I love the misery too much.


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  • Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ferguson 20,

    or

    Massey Ferguson 165

    (in the west anyway)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    My first tractor I bought was a DB 1410 never gave an ounce of trouble followed that with a 3 110/90 now have a tm 125 classic great tool and a fiat f 140 bought at handy money good tractor too I've also a massey 5465 don't rate her at all some difference from her to the tm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    It was no fun starting a 1 series or any of the older tractor back in the 70's if the starter was begining to go dodgy. None of those tractors have done the work of tractors, that tractors in the 80's and 90's and the more modern tractors are doing. Lots of the smaller tractors spend half there time ticking over.

    On the contrary a lot of 70-90HP tractors on farms these days doing little more than yard work where farmers have contracted out everything else. Back in the 70's/80's more farmers would have been making all their own fodder with 50 to 70 HP tractors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭topnotch


    John Deere 7810


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Grueller


    its hard to pick just one, as every few years the demands put on a machine increases. mine would be
    1950s - 1960s: MF 35
    1970s: MF 100 series
    1980s: Fiat 90 series (mainly the 110-90)
    1990s: John Deere 6010 series
    2000+ unsure....maybe Armatrac :P

    Form my money the mf 100 series were a mile behind the ford 1000 series


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭HughCassidy


    My father cut a lot of silage and contract work he had a ford 5000 changed it to a Leyland 285 which lasted a month everything went wrong with it the garage replaced it he kept it for a year broke his heart bought a Zetor crystal never had an ounce of trouble with it. The tractor is parked in a shed at home, with a massey Ferguson 135, and a Nuffield 1060, He reckoned the ford were the best tractor to bail hay straw.All tractors he had nearly did close on a 1000 a year were changed every four years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Burning Tires


    tanko wrote: »
    MF 590, cant bring myself to get rid of it. I love the misery too much.

    Oh Jesus. The 500 series. The hardship.

    My vote would go with the MF100 series, 1000s of them still earning their keep, and easy to keep going


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Had a 165 back in the day and she put up with some abuse but abit limited.on my second tl new holland and they are some girls to work and very little trouble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    David brown 995.an absolute dinger.plenty able for leaving in bales and not shy in the bog she wouldn’t see you stuck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    David Brown 995. I'll be buried in it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    David Brown 995. I'll be buried in it. :D

    Abhoy patsy.thats the style of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    David Brown 995. I'll be buried in it. :D

    I seen 2 cracking looking 995s hidden in a field in mayo last week patsy.fully restored.they had them hidden in behind a lock of furzy bushes but I spotted them when I was having a sneaky look over the ditch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    it has to be the mf 135,. very little to go wrong and was the workhorse for many farms. decades later and most are still going strong. all th eparts are still available and they are still as great as ever


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 172 ✭✭Jimmy Dags


    I seen 2 cracking looking 995s hidden in a field in mayo last week patsy.fully restored.they had them hidden in behind a lock of furzy bushes but I spotted them when I was having a sneaky look over the ditch.

    Having a sneaky look at the neighbors knickers also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    I learned to drive on a 135 at 8 years old. I used to have to  standon the clutch or brake as i was so light.  22 years later i have.... a 135 :p . They are the ultimate tractor for anyone just fluting about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭I says


    The one that the repayments are finished with is good enough for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    Has anyone mentioned Fendt? Never owned one but I would have presumed they deserve to be in the title race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭HughCassidy


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    Has anyone mentioned Fendt? Never owned one but I would have presumed they deserve to be in the title race.

    They are a good tractor but for a small tractor the ferguson 20,35, 135, for what work they did on farms had to be the best they were put through they brought farming to where it is to day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I learned to drive on a 135 at 8 years old. I used to have to standon the clutch or brake as i was so light. 22 years later i have.... a 135 :p . They are the ultimate tractor for anyone just fluting about.

    It'll be still going when all the electronic gimcracks of the modern tractor have stopped working.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    100 series massey are hard beat, still loads of them in use here in deepest darkest Mayo. Take just about any torture, easy to fix.
    In fairness im biased, there is a 1976 mf165 here with 34 uears and the engine has never been touched. It cut plenty silage back in the day and negotiated many a wet bog.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    I have a shoite memory but compared to last year. Lost less lambs to hypothermia this year. Cows were out later tgan thet were this year. Lambs have done better this year. Because of cold weather, no worms in lambs till may at least. It has been more challenging spreading manure and slurry but for me, its not that bad


    Fiat 110-90
    Bro and I have One each father bought 20 yrs ago. Main tractors on busy dairy farms, savage tractor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    A right can of worms opened with that one.

    Have to agree with some of the previous posts
    The 90 series fiats were great machines, crap cabs but great engines and gear boxes
    The 10 series John deeres were and still are very good, espically the 6610 and 6910.
    The 10 series fords are under rated TBH, the 1st series had issues with the block and gear box but series II and III were much better. Most contractors and tillage lads round here had a 7810. Lots of them with dairy and stock lads now. The SQ cab was a big change for long working days
    Going back further the 5000 & 7000 were game changers, as were the JD 50 series.
    The Massey 35 and its followers have worked all over the world for years in all kind of conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭TGJD


    Case MX series for my money. Massively under rated. Huge pulling power beyond what you'd expect. Extremely reliable and enough comfort to make long days not feel as long without being overly complicated. Have driven 3 different ones. One of which has over 20k hours closer to 30k and still runs like clockwork and can outpull tractors which should have a fair bit more power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    I was going to mention the Case MX series, but myself personally have no experience with them. There were 8 MX series located within a few miles of us, the 2 contractors we get had them, one had 3 MX 135s and a 170.
    The cummins engine had a very unique sound, you could hear them coming a mile down the road!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭endainoz


    My guess has to be the original Zetor crystal. So far ahead of its time in its day. The 8011 was the first to use the safety cab which is taken for granted now. It also had power steering and this machine was first released way back in 1968!

    Of course I might be a bit biased as we had one at home when I was growing up but it was hard to beat throughout the 80s in our area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    When I was young visiting my uncle's farm I saw him haull an overloaded rear fork of silage to the pit on his Massey 135. Every time he touched the accelerator the tractor did a wheelie.

    Massey 135 ftw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭White Clover


    The case had that legendary Cummins engine but that's where the good bits ended! They had a horrible clunky gearbox and chocolate for brakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Patslaterry123


    Deutz or Fendt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭flossy1


    the massy 35x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Patslaterry123


    I remember the Fendt 308 311 four wheel drive,the Deutz 6.05 and 6.30 and a international 1055 four wheel drive all working in a 600 acre field all in the Eightys

    All new at the time


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