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Voip with Eir vdsl and bridging

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  • 16-04-2018 6:48pm
    #1
    yfaykya
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭


    Hi,
    I was not aware that eir now are voip based for telephony and this does not work if you bridge your modem.
    Has anyone got a workaround?
    Thx.


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    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    yfaykya wrote: »
    Hi,
    I was not aware that eir now are voip based for telephony and this does not work if you bridge your modem.
    Has anyone got a workaround?
    Thx.

    Ring them. As far as I know, they've got no issues giving out the SIP details. You can then use a different VoIP device instead.

    Also search this thread: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057499489 ... I remember somebody got the details of them no bother.

    Why would you bother with bridging anyhow. Just use a decent router, directly connected to their FTTH or FTTC line.

    /M


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    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Marlow wrote: »
    Ring them. As far as I know, they've got no issues giving out the SIP details. You can then use a different VoIP device instead.


    /M

    Afraid not. See here:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057858144

    Both myself and CalamariFritti requested the SIP passwords for our accounts. However the passwords we were given were wrong and it now transpires that eir support have no access to the SIP passwords so anyone using a third-party router will lose the VoIP service.


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    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,165 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    This contradicts:
    https://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057862950

    It certainly USED to be the case that SIP info was freely given out.


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    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Wyatt Rapid Sadness wrote: »
    Afraid not. See here:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057858144

    Both myself and CalamariFritti requested the SIP passwords for our accounts. However the passwords we were given were wrong and it now transpires that eir support have no access to the SIP passwords so anyone using a third-party router will lose the VoIP service.

    Thanks for clearling that up. Must have missed that.

    Best to port the number elsewhere so .. who wants their phone service from Eir anyway anyhow ? :)

    /M


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    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,165 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Its definitely possible to extract the details, but it might be a JTAG job which wouldnt be for the faint hearted.


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    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    ED E wrote: »
    Its definitely possible to extract the details, but it might be a JTAG job which wouldnt be for the faint hearted.

    Yeah, I don't need them that badly. I'll be cancelling the voice part of my service when my initial contract is up. It was really only out of interest to see if I could get it working on an ATA.


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    yfaykya
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭yfaykya


    ED E wrote: »
    Its definitely possible to extract the details, but it might be a JTAG job which wouldnt be for the faint hearted.

    Do elaborate! Read the onboard MCU of the modem? I have so many different programmers here I am bound to have one that works (bus pirate etc).

    The problem then is that I would need to buy an interface to hook up the current house phones to also.


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    yfaykya
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭yfaykya


    Marlow wrote: »
    Why would you bother with bridging anyhow. Just use a decent router, directly connected to their FTTH or FTTC line.
    /M

    I don't have FTTH or FTTC (direct to exchange so close to FTTC). I also have a ubiquti USG I want to use and I do not want to double NAT.


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    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    yfaykya wrote: »
    I don't have FTTH or FTTC (direct to exchange so close to FTTC). I also have a ubiquti USG I want to use and I do not want to double NAT.

    And Eir have migrated you to VoIP ?

    Normally they only do that on FTTH connections at the moment.

    /M


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    yfaykya
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭yfaykya


    Marlow wrote: »
    And Eir have migrated you to VoIP ?

    Normally they only do that on FTTH connections at the moment.

    /M

    Yes annoyingly. Get < 30Mb too.


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    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    yfaykya wrote: »
    Yes annoyingly. Get < 30Mb too.

    Direct to the exchange is ADSL2+, so max 24 Mbit/s or ADSL1 (7.2 Mbit/s max), depending on what gear they have in there.

    /M


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    yfaykya
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭yfaykya


    Marlow wrote: »
    Direct to the exchange is ADSL2+, so max 24 Mbit/s or ADSL1 (7.2 Mbit/s max), depending on what gear they have in there.

    /M

    No. It is vdsl.


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    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,165 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    yfaykya wrote: »
    I don't have FTTH or FTTC (direct to exchange so close to FTTC). I also have a ubiquti USG I want to use and I do not want to double NAT.
    yfaykya wrote: »
    No. It is vdsl.

    We treat all VDSL as FTTC here even when its exchange launched.


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    #15
    yfaykya
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭yfaykya


    Anyone know the eir SIP settings? I have my username and pass.


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    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    yfaykya wrote: »
    Anyone know the eir SIP settings? I have my username and pass.

    Primary registrar: vobb-pub.voice.eir.ie

    Port: 5080

    Primary proxy: vobb-pub.voice.eir.ie

    Port: 5080

    SIP domain: voice.eir.ie

    Local port: 6050


    Can I ask where you got the password please?


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    yfaykya
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭yfaykya


    Wyatt Rapid Sadness wrote: »
    Primary registrar: vobb-pub.voice.eir.ie

    Port: 5080

    Primary proxy: vobb-pub.voice.eir.ie

    Port: 5080

    SIP domain: voice.eir.ie

    Local port: 6050


    Can I ask where you got the password please?

    I phoned support. Thanks for the above.


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    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    yfaykya wrote: »
    I phoned support. Thanks for the above.

    Is the password you were given a string of uppercase letters and numbers that is 32 characters long? If so it is unlikely to work, myself and CalamariFritti were given similar "passwords".


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    yfaykya
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭yfaykya


    Wyatt Rapid Sadness wrote: »
    Is the password you were given a string of uppercase letters and numbers that is 32 characters long? If so it is unlikely to work, myself and CalamariFritti were given similar "passwords".

    Yes :-(


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    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    yfaykya wrote: »
    Yes :-(

    They are clueless. That is not your password. Apparently support cannot see your password. I think the only way around this is to get a copy of the Huawei firmware for the F2000 and extract the encryption keys used to encrypt the config file.


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    #21
    yfaykya
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭yfaykya


    FFS. The amount of time these people have cost me.
    Neither the sports or phone app work.
    Wonder could we sniff the traffic on an android phone to get our password..

    I might see about hacking the modem too.


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    #22
    pancyk
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭pancyk


    hi all, it been some time since last comment been made, and I wonder if anyone got any luck with using eir landline on a 3rd party device? Using Sagemcom CS50001 modem from eir



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