Is it OK to take video of young kids in my yard.

Jeff2

So as to show their parent what they are like.

Parents seem to think they're fine but drive me mad.

jimbobaloobob

I would think not.

Donald Trump

Gardai have released the following CCTV screengrab of the OP

SuperSean11

Set up cctv system in your garden, I’d say whatever they’re up too will stop

eeguy

SuperSean11 wrote: »

Set up cctv system in your garden, I’d say whatever they’re up too will stop

Second this. Fair enough if they're caught on CCTV. Different story if you're filming them from the bushes.

Rubberchikken

If its some neighbour kids misbehaving maybe better not.
If theyre up to thrir antics and the parents think theyre holding a prayer session maybe taking pics to show otherwise might backfire. Just saying.

JenovaProject

It's a bit fcuking ropey

the_syco

Is it OK to take video of young kids

Eh, no.

Jeff2

SuperSean11 wrote: »

Set up cctv system in your garden, I’d say whatever they’re up too will stop

I'll set it up and edit so the parents know.
Everyone else to knows what their kid is like but don't seem to know.

USB stick will be handed over with prove.

Jeff2

the_syco wrote: »

Eh, no.

In my garden who I have not asked in.

jimbobaloobob

I would check with legal profession, you dont want to find your not living next door anymore

surprised at the responses here. perfectly fine to photo or film anyone in your garden (or any public space).

eeguy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

surprised at the responses here. perfectly fine to photo or film anyone in your garden (or any public space).

Just don't want some knee jerk reaction that puts the OP on some register.

JenovaProject

Jeff2 wrote: »

In my garden who I have not asked in.

Try every other avenue before you go down this road...the world is a crazy place these days....even with the best of intentions you can come out looking really bad

Eamonn8448

if the camera is facing towards a public road i think you must put up a surveillance sign, had this problem with our outfarm and fly tipping , ask a guard and he said sign must go up, not my fault the wind blew it away lol

Jeff2

JenovaProject wrote: »

Try every other avenue before you go down this road...the world is a crazy place these days....even with the best of intentions you can come out looking really bad

To true as a single older person.
I can give the parents access to my cam on their phone but I don't think it would be used.

I'll still film anyway.

JenovaProject

Jeff2 wrote: »

To true as a single older person.
I can give the parents access to my cam on their phone but I don't think it would be used.

I'll still film anyway.

Be careful friend.

Chrongen

Jeff2 wrote: »

So as to show their parent what they are like.

Parents seem to think they're fine but drive me mad.

Have you heard about this great concept called a "dog"?

Trained properly this thing can launch at kids in a frenzied attack tearing their shirts and sending them shrieking for shelter. It can be done with the click of one's fingers or a simple command and can be halted just as quickly.

Donutz

Chrongen wrote:

Have you heard about this great concept called a "dog"?

Chrongen wrote:

Trained properly this thing can launch at kids in a frenzied attack tearing their shirts and sending them shrieking for shelter. It can be done with the click of one's fingers or a simple command and can be halted just as quickly.

Do not do this OP. If a dog attacks a child like this on your property, you would be legally responsible, even if they were trespassing.

I think the best advice here is the CCTV. Not only would it provide proof, it would more than likely act as a deterrent.

Jeff2

Have a dog that kicks off because of this and that is half the problem.

harry Bailey esq

eeguy wrote: »

Just don't jerk

+1

Jeff2

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

if the camera is facing towards a public road i think you must put up a surveillance sign, had this problem with our outfarm and fly tipping , ask a guard and he said sign must go up, not my fault the wind blew it away lol

I'll keep the camera on my ground only, thanks for that.

Eamonn8448

Jeff2 wrote: »

I'll keep the camera on my ground only, thanks for that.

Proportionality - what images will be captured?
The location of cameras is a key consideration. Use of CCTV to monitor areas where individuals would have a reasonable expectation of privacy would be difficult to justify. Toilets and rest rooms are an obvious example. To justify use in such an area, a data controller would have to demonstrate that a pattern of security breaches had occurred in the area prior to the installation of the system such as would warrant constant electronic surveillance. Where such use can be justified, the CCTV cameras should never be capable of capturing images from cubicles or urinal areas

Cameras placed so as to record external areas should be positioned in such a way as to prevent or minimise recording of passers-by or of another person's private property.

Proportionality - Recommendations
Under this principle, this Office would expect that a data controller would have carried out detailed assessments as to how the use of such equipment meets with these requirements and would have the following steps carried out and documented:

A Risk Assessment
A Privacy Impact Assessment
A Specific Data Protection policy drawn up for use of the devices in a limited and defined set of circumstances only (this policy should include documented data retention and disposal policy for the footage)
Documentary evidence of previous incidents giving rise to security/health and safety concerns
Clear signage indicating image recording in operation.



just so you dont draw trouble on yourself, always some busybody ready to throw the book at you and parents protecting their kids will do just that

Get a female friend or relative to take the video.

Graces7

eeguy wrote: »

Just don't want some knee jerk reaction that puts the OP on some register.

Yep. Parents whose kids are caught behaving badly can get VERY defensive and a knee jerk reaction can get nasty. I mean. spying on our kids! How dare you...

pickarooney

Shoot one of them in the leg. The rest will hesitate before coming onto your property again.

punisher5112

Keep asking them do they like sweets and little kittens and puppies....

Jack Kanoff

On your property? Shoot away...keep your pants on though

893bet

eeguy wrote: »

Just don't want some knee jerk reaction that puts the OP on some register.

Every man is a rapist and every man is a paedophile.

Dangerous mentality that is developing.

OldMrBrennan83

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Graces7

893bet wrote: »

Every man is a rapist and every man is a paedophile.

Dangerous mentality that is developing.

Yep. So make sure you stay clear of shrapnel

This is why our Child Protection laws cover not just the church but schools and scouts etc

Best for everyone. Remember Norah Wall

erica74

My concern would be that if their parents aren't vigilant enough to notice that their kids are off being assholes that they may go on the defensive when it's pointed out to them and zone in on you filming their children.

Graces7

OP;by all means CCTV but make sure there is a large clear sign to that effect and if challenged? Stray cats and dogs?

That may stop them.. or they may start acting up for the cameras :eek:

Never mention the kids ...

lawred2

Chrongen wrote: »

Have you heard about this great concept called a "dog"?

Trained properly this thing can launch at kids in a frenzied attack tearing their shirts and sending them shrieking for shelter. It can be done with the click of one's fingers or a simple command and can be halted just as quickly.

Lunacy

Graces7

893bet wrote: »

Every man is a rapist and every man is a paedophile.

Dangerous mentality that is developing.

Yep

A year or so back I was driving past a small school on a county lane.

The kids were out playing and a big ball had been lost over the wall.

So OF COURSE I stopped, got out of the car, picked up the ball and threw it back over the wall..

Immediately a row of adults appeared, frowning.

I made some kind of inane remark and fled. Still scares me. Far too easy to be thought wrong and appalling that this kind of vigilance is needed

OldMrBrennan83

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machiavellianme

Stick up a few "poison laid" or "beware of large dog" signs around the perimeter. That always keeps the townies out.

lawred2

Graces7 wrote: »

Yep

A year or so back I was driving past a small school on a county lane.

The kids were out playing and a big ball had been lost over the wall.

So OF COURSE I stopped, got out of the car, picked up the ball and threw it back over the wall..

Immediately a row of adults appeared, frowning.

I made some kind of inane remark and fled. Still scares me. Far too easy to be thought wrong and appalling that this kind of vigilance is needed

hmmmm

Ewan Hoosarmi

Judging by the thread title, the OP is in the USA. Here we have different laws... and gardens.

munster87

lawred2 wrote: »

Lunacy

They say two-syllable dog names work best

kylith

Let it be known in the area that due to vandalism on your land you will be putting up CCTV cameras and prosecuting trespassers.

Discodog

Plus just have a word at your local Garda station & let them know.

gandalf

Ewan Hoosarmi wrote: »

Judging by the thread title, the OP is in the USA. Here we have different laws... and gardens.

Ah if that's the case just install one of these puppies

pickarooney

Graces7 wrote: »

Yep

A year or so back I was driving past a small school on a county lane.

The kids were out playing and a big ball had been lost over the wall.

So OF COURSE I stopped, got out of the car, picked up the ball and threw it back over the wall..

Immediately a row of adults appeared, frowning.

I made some kind of inane remark and fled. Still scares me. Far too easy to be thought wrong and appalling that this kind of vigilance is needed

Where did this row of frowning adults appear from?

This is a complete fabrication, and not a well-conceived one.

KERSPLAT!

pickarooney wrote: »

Where did this row of frowning adults appear from?

This is a complete fabrication, and not a well-conceived one.

Hiding in the bushes, looking out for other adults hiding in other bushes.

Hammer89

JenovaProject wrote: »

It's a bit fcuking ropey

That's what the kids will say when OP ties them up.

ShooterSF

Hammer89 wrote: »

That's what the kids will say when OP ties them up.

Im going to hell for laughing but thanks

Trasna1

893bet wrote: »

Every man is a rapist and every man is a paedophile.

Dangerous mentality that is developing.

Developing? It's been like that for the last 25 years (as long as I remember).

There was a moral panic in the mid 90's over paedophiles, stoked by British red tops but came here too.

RustyNut

The data protection act doesn't apply to private individuals homes unless they work from home, so no data controller. As far a I'm aware.

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

Proportionality - what images will be captured?
The location of cameras is a key consideration. Use of CCTV to monitor areas where individuals would have a reasonable expectation of privacy would be difficult to justify. Toilets and rest rooms are an obvious example. To justify use in such an area, a data controller would have to demonstrate that a pattern of security breaches had occurred in the area prior to the installation of the system such as would warrant constant electronic surveillance. Where such use can be justified, the CCTV cameras should never be capable of capturing images from cubicles or urinal areas

Cameras placed so as to record external areas should be positioned in such a way as to prevent or minimise recording of passers-by or of another person's private property.

Proportionality - Recommendations
Under this principle, this Office would expect that a data controller would have carried out detailed assessments as to how the use of such equipment meets with these requirements and would have the following steps carried out and documented:

A Risk Assessment
A Privacy Impact Assessment
A Specific Data Protection policy drawn up for use of the devices in a limited and defined set of circumstances only (this policy should include documented data retention and disposal policy for the footage)
Documentary evidence of previous incidents giving rise to security/health and safety concerns
Clear signage indicating image recording in operation.



just so you dont draw trouble on yourself, always some busybody ready to throw the book at you and parents protecting their kids will do just that

Wabbit Ears

There is absolutely nothing illegal whatsoever about videoing or photographing fully clothed children in public or on your own property.

Should You? Probably not, as this thread shows people have all sorts of mad ideas about the act and will insinuate you're a pedo for doing so.

So yes, you can do it, but don't.

El Weirdo

Patww79 wrote: »

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*All* kids? Really?