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My car was towed away and left in the storage for a long time, can I avoid high fees?

  • 08-04-2018 6:32am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5


    I know it is a silly thing to do but I left my car unattended after it stopped working on the side of motorway and it was towed away, now after few weeks I contacted the car pound and they are asking for an unreasonably high fee for storage of the car. I was not notified in any way about the fact that my car was being stored at a car pound (no letter, no phone call). Is there any way whatsoever for me to avoid having to pay these fees or is my only option to do so? Do you think that negotiation might help? The car itself has virtually no value - I want to send it to a scrap yard anyhow. Any help or advise would be highly appreciated!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Well, the solution seems to be obvious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭BigCon


    How much is the fee?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 stevie_ou


    I hope there is some other obvious solution other than payment ://

    It's over 2000EUR release fee...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dog walker 1234


    So you abandon the car on the side of the motorway. Wait a few weeks to phone the car pound. You are complaining that you did not receive a phone call or letter re the storage of your car though you abandoned it and made no effort to check out what happened to your car after abandoning it? You want to know do you have to pay the storage fees or can you wriggle out of it?

    I would advise you to take personal responsibility for the decisions you make.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    I hope there is some other obvious solution other than payment ://

    It's over 2000EUR release fee...

    Does the letter have the option to sign the car over to them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    What's the car worth?

    I'm actually amazed at how long people dump their cars on n roads or motorways.

    Have you gone to them or asked to speak to manager...

    Come up with a amount you could pay.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    I know it is a silly thing to do but I left my car unattended after it stopped working on the side of motorway and it was towed away, now after few weeks I contacted the car pound and they are asking for an unreasonably high fee for storage of the car. I was not notified in any way about the fact that my car was being stored at a car pound (no letter, no phone call). Is there any way whatsoever for me to avoid having to pay these fees or is my only option to do so? Do you think that negotiation might help? The car itself has virtually no value - I want to send it to a scrap yard anyhow. Any help or advise would be highly appreciated!

    How did you locate the car with no information?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    There are tow companies that would move it for as little as €50.

    At least get it to a road where one can park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    Wait what?

    - dumped car
    - left/ignored for weeks
    - car has no value
    - was going to scrap it
    - now desperately want it back??

    I think we're missing something here.....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    godtabh wrote: »
    How did you locate the car with no information?

    This happened to me once when an embassy took a dislike to my VW T3 which at the time was painted in several different colors. I don't blame them. :D
    Car was parked legally, embassy had it towed, I phoned the gards and they informed me it was impounded.
    Also no letter or phonecall, but in my case it was on a German reg, so maybe they couldn't find me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    This happened to me once when an embassy took a dislike to my VW T3 which at the time was painted in several different colors. I don't blame them. :D
    Car was parked legally, embassy had it towed, I phoned the gards and they informed me it was impounded.
    Also no letter or phonecall, but in my case it was on a German reg, so maybe they couldn't find me.

    How did that end up as in costs?

    If the car was legally parked then should have been left alone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Peatys wrote: »
    Does the letter have the option to sign the car over to them?

    OP, there's your obvious solution.
    Unless you have drugs, money, weapons or diamonds hidden in the car, why on earth do you want the hassle of getting your car back, only to scrap it then?
    It sounds like a lot of pointless effort and expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,063 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    This happened to me once when an embassy took a dislike to my VW T3 which at the time was painted in several different colors. I don't blame them. :D
    Car was parked legally, embassy had it towed, I phoned the gards and they informed me it was impounded.
    Also no letter or phonecall, but in my case it was on a German reg, so maybe they couldn't find me.

    What happened with this. You get compensation?

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭Car99


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    I know it is a silly thing to do but I left my car unattended after it stopped working on the side of motorway and it was towed away, now after few weeks I contacted the car pound and they are asking for an unreasonably high fee for storage of the car. I was not notified in any way about the fact that my car was being stored at a car pound (no letter, no phone call). Is there any way whatsoever for me to avoid having to pay these fees or is my only option to do so? Do you think that negotiation might help? The car itself has virtually no value - I want to send it to a scrap yard anyhow. Any help or advise would be highly appreciated!

    No wighling out , you have to pay the 2000 and when they scrap it for €50 , they'll come after you for the other €1950 . Muahahahahaha. Where did it all go wrong?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    What happened with this. You get compensation?

    I did, but there was also the added circumstance that the pound was broken into, a window smashed and the radio taken.
    The legal/illegal parking was a bit of a borderline case.
    There was double yellows, an entrance, a short space without double yellows and this just fitted my car. And it was right in front of it. It was the Nigerian embassy in Ranelagh. And my piece of sh*t, rusty, dented, multi colored van. I don't blame them for having it towed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    What happened with this. You get compensation?

    I did, but there was also the added circumstance that the pound was broken into, a window smashed and the radio taken.
    The legal/illegal parking was a bit of a borderline case.
    There was double yellows, an entrance, a short space without double yellows and this just fitted my car. And it was right in front of it. It was the Nigerian embassy in Ranelagh. And my piece of sh*t, rusty, dented, multi colored van. I don't blame them for having it towed.
    Didn't you tell them you were a Nigerian Prince?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Still? :D
    This happened about 20 years ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Car99 wrote: »
    No wighling out , you have to pay the 2000 and when they scrap it for €50 , they'll come after you for the other €1950 . Muahahahahaha. Where did it all go wrong?

    Well, that is interesting from a legal perspective.
    Is he definitely on the hook? If he says "fking keep it", do they have grounds to take him to court? How likely is it it will succeed?
    Or is it like defending an insurance claim that they won't bother because it will cost more in the end?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    There are tow companies that would move it for as little as €50.

    At least get it to a road where one can park.

    No charge for towing from the motorway to the nearest safe place. Frankly I have little sympathy. Abandoned cars on the motorway are at best a distraction, frequently a hazard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Marcusm wrote: »
    No charge for towing from the motorway to the nearest safe place. Frankly I have little sympathy. Abandoned cars on the motorway are at best a distraction, frequently a hazard.

    I thought that was only from motorway works. You learn something everyday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 stevie_ou


    ArthurG wrote: »
    Wait what?

    - dumped car
    - left/ignored for weeks
    - car has no value
    - was going to scrap it
    - now desperately want it back??

    I think we're missing something here.....

    I don't want it back at all, I was hoping it was stolen, I would love to leave it there for them to sell/auction or scrap... Just worried that they will come after me through court demanding me to pay these fees and if I leave it there the fees would only get worse...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    I don't want it back at all, I was hoping it was stolen, I would love to leave it there for them to sell/auction or scrap... Just worried that they will come after me through court demanding me to pay these fees and if I leave it there the fees would only get worse...

    Ring them and state the car isnt worth it and you were scrapping it next week anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 stevie_ou


    Well, that is interesting from a legal perspective.
    Is he definitely on the hook? If he says "fking keep it", do they have grounds to take him to court? How likely is it it will succeed?
    Or is it like defending an insurance claim that they won't bother because it will cost more in the end?

    That's exactly what I am hoping solution might be. I mean I would have problem with >reasonable fees< but this is a bit of a ridiculous situation...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 stevie_ou


    Ring them and state the car isnt worth it and you were scrapping it next week anyway.

    I'll try this tomorrow. Do you think there's a chance they would do this? Seems like a bit of a scam really when they charge extra arbitrary amounts for practically no service that no one ordered and they don't even bother sending you a letter at any point... I know I wasn't exactly doing my due diligence but it's a bit ridiculous...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    I know I wasn't exactly doing my due diligence but it's a bit ridiculous...

    Possibly, it's also ridiculous you've not had a call from the Gardaí for abandoning a car on the motorway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    Do you think that negotiation might help?

    The fees are set by statute and non-negotiable.


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    I hope there is some other obvious solution other than payment ://

    It's over 2000EUR release fee...

    So they have had the car at least 54 days, why wait so long to worry about it?

    The odd thing about this is such vehicles are normally disposed of 6 to 8 weeks after their detention and the registered owner is informed of this in writing at least two weeks beforehand (would that be the answer to the query below by gobtabh I wonder?).


    godtabh wrote: »
    How did you locate the car with no information?

    Good question.


    Car99 wrote: »
    No wighling out , you have to pay the 2000 and when they scrap it for €50 , they'll come after you for the other €1950 . Muahahahahaha. Where did it all go wrong?
    Well, that is interesting from a legal perspective.
    Is he definitely on the hook? If he says "fking keep it", do they have grounds to take him to court?

    If they dispose of the vehicle they may look to recover the fees due even if they get money for disposing of the vehicle, any amount received for disposal is not taken off the outstanding fees.

    Yes they do have grounds to take someone in such a situation to court, they recover the fees as a simple contract debt via the DC. At €2000+ it is indeed feasible, weather they will or not, who knows.


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    I don't want it back at all, I was hoping it was stolen, I would love to leave it there for them to sell/auction or scrap... Just worried that they will come after me through court demanding me to pay these fees and if I leave it there the fees would only get worse...

    Oh dear.....

    Remember the fees increase by €35 every single day.


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    That's exactly what I am hoping solution might be. I mean I would have problem with >reasonable fees< but this is a bit of a ridiculous situation...

    At €35 per day the fees are reasonable, leaving the car with them 54+ days and initially hoping the car would be stolen is where a question of reasonableness arises.


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    Do you think there's a chance they would do this? Seems like a bit of a scam really when they charge extra arbitrary amounts for practically no service that no one ordered and they don't even bother sending you a letter at any point...

    What they are doing is prescribed by statute, one may argue that leaving a car on the side of a motorway in the hope that it would be disposed of is a "bit of a scam" really.


    stevie_ou wrote: »
    I know I wasn't exactly doing my due diligence but it's a bit ridiculous...

    This is the understatement of the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Trying to decide the fakeness of the thread


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭FranklinMint


    Marcusm wrote: »
    No charge for towing from the motorway to the nearest safe place. Frankly I have little sympathy. Abandoned cars on the motorway are at best a distraction, frequently a hazard.

    Who provides this service?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Who provides this service?

    Whoever is contracted by the road operator or NTA to provide the service which is based on using the roadside SOS phone.


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