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DC2 Integra, prices, colours and M3's!
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25-03-2018 3:30pm#1This in my eye is a dreamer. Yes it has a lot of mods but 11.5k crazy. I love DC2's but even if I had the money I wouldn't buy this one. Not too gone on the colour either.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-integra-dc2-type-r-milano-red-big-spec/182375814
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'very original car'....wotzgoingon wrote: »This in my eye is a dreamer. Yes it has a lot of mods but 11.5k crazy. I love DC2's but even if I had the money I wouldn't buy this one. Not too gone on the colour either.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-integra-dc2-type-r-milano-red-big-spec/18237581
Lists dozens of changes from original car
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Killinator wrote: »'very original car'....
Lists dozens of changes from original car
To quote:Very original car.....
....Thers a lot of aftermarket parts scattered in every corner of this car so I'm not gona have enuf space in dis ad to word it all
Now maybe they have not actually been installed and are just 'scattered' around inside the boot?
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wotzgoingon wrote: »This in my eye is a dreamer. Yes it has a lot of mods but 11.5k crazy. I love DC2's but even if I had the money I wouldn't buy this one. Not too gone on the colour either.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-integra-dc2-type-r-milano-red-big-spec/18237581
230 horsepower?
Does it really take that much modification to get 230 ponies out of those?
I get that there's stuff like final drives and LSD listed but I would have expected something as single minded, with that much work gone into it, to be embarassing M3s.
Now I really don't get the whole rice rocket modding scene.0 -
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Jaysus he's a bit heavy footed. Drive on the limit, not on the limiter.selectamatic wrote: »
this video is food for thought albeit with an eg civic running a similar setup
Yep it was an option from 1998. I have one. Having kept an eye out for one on the Japanese auction sites for nigh on a year before I got it the silver DC2 R was the rarest colour to come up, followed by the yellow*.As an aside iirc the type r tegs never came silver only the ek9s did? Could be wrong on that mind.
On those same sites white was the commonest colour by a long way, followed by red and black(about equal), then very rarely a yellow one would come up, then silver. Yellow with yellow seats the rarest of all. For good reason, they get dirty just sitting there. I did see one that had been ordered in yellow with red seats, but most yellows(and silvers) had the black seats.
Today the most saleable colour for collectors would be yellow I'd reckon, followed by white, then red or black. I doubt silver would even be on the radar TBH. Even though it's the rarest colour and was only ever available in Japan. America got yellow, as did Australia(which also got the yellow Recaros) and one of the rarest of all was a short run of European Swiss examples(yellow seats as well). Then there's the Canadian only market ones in white with red back seats as well as front. For such a relatively specialised car there were a lot of little differences between markets. Never mind that Honda lost money on each one they sold.
*Even in the catalogue they don't show a 2 door. Silver in the four door DB8 R was pretty common though. Dunno why. Maybe the four door was for a "family man", older more sober a colour, whereas silver in the DC2 R was seen as well.. for an older driver? Odder again non R DC2's were very common in silver. I'd regularly see them come up with the R wing and get my hopes up. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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The DC2 is more of a really twisty B road dedicated machine. In those conditions and considering it's a 25 year old design it can worry quite a few fast cars even today(not in my hands mind you).
Not on long straights though. Well unless you go nuts on customising. There's a chap on Youtube who has one with a K20 lump in it and stripped out to feck and it does the Ring in 8 minutes, 20 odd seconds more quickly than a standard M3 and 40 seconds slower than a Standard DC2 R(which isn't far off the Mazda MPS if memory serves?). In fairness the Beemer will be a more comfortable experience. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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TBH JC even Honda heads into them in person and on the interwebs have told me they never came in silver.I stand corrected Wibbs, had myself convinced they didn't come in silver.
*EDIT* Here's a vid from Japan's Best Motoring TV series and it features a silver one.
Oh and that might be my very car. Yeah. Small world. I'm the second owner, but the first owner was a Japanese circuit and the R stickers on mine were replacements because they were the ones for the darker colours(the one in the vid has no stickers for some reason).
They're a pretty good daily driver with it funny enough. Though maybe I'm just used to it. A few mates have driven it and coming from modern cars are a bit more WTF!!Great to see there's still people driving them they really are a one of a kind car.
Outside of the insurance they're fairly cheap to run, high 30's to the gallon, reliable as granite, fantastic seats and a large enough boot. And even a run to the shops is more of an event. I'm at best a mediocre driver and it makes me look like I can drive which says much about the car. I haven't seen another in a long time and they used to be so common a sight. Twelve years in and a load of memories now, so I'll hang on to mine at this stage, unless a scumbag steals it, or vandalises it cos they can't steal it. :mad:
There are a few yellows around. Well I know of three, which is not exactly a lot. One though was originally white, fully stripped down respray later... Pity as it was one of the last of them made, a 2001 reg IIRC. Leave it standard and white, stick it in a shed and wait a decade and you'd get a helluva return I reckon. Actually I'd like a big shed to buy up a fair few of what are now seen as "old cars" and uninsurable in Ireland, but are rising everywhere else. I do know of a few sheds like that as is.As an aside there is/was a yellow one down Galway/mayo direction on itbs that I'm almost sure has yellow recaros in it, the owners a Honda fanatic. I got chatting to him at japfest 2 or 3 years back and the spec list and condition of the car was phenomenal. Easily the best dc2 I've ever seen. He'd brought it in from England and I think he spent the purchase price again on it getting it just perfect.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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I'd agree with you CJ. I do like yellow, but not for me. It would look like a middle age crisis car.Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »white is the proper colour for an ITR. Silver is about my speed.
I know I'd really bloody regret selling mine at this stage. I actually drove the first one sold in Ireland back in late 98. A friend of a friend bought it. He only kept it for about six months, couldn't live with it and went out and bought a Merc. I'd driven some mad machines in my time up to that, but when I got that thing into third and *hypothetically*I hope to own one again some day and when ever that is it’ll be forever.
went all the way to nine thousand RPM and then pulled fourth, I was utterly bloody hooked. I'd never driven anything like it up to then. For the younger readers out there, back in the late 90's it truly was a revelation. This was an engine with the highest BHP per litre of any normally aspirated car on the road(only the Ferrari 355 came close). Especially from Honda which were more cool motorbikes and pensioner's cars. It really did feel like a "race car with a reg plate" and I'd had a few goes in privateer race cars*. Well they did homologate it, which was the original plan to increase Honda's profile.
It did very well too, particularly in North American and Asian race series.
I clearly remember on that drive I promised myself, one day... Sure I well know there are all sorts of hot hatches and Beemers and the like today that will utterly blast it around the Ring and elsewhere and I've had a go in many of them, but for sheer on the edge confidence and feel none of them came close, for me anyway. Especially for a front wheel drive. Which oddly oversteers more than understeers. With the right tyres you might be able to enter it into a drifting competition.
You can tell I love the daft old thing.
But if you've never had the experience and you ever get the chance to drive a standard one, take it with both hands up your fave twisty bit of road. At low speeds it's a bit "meh" TBH, but light that blue touch paper.... I near guarantee you'll come back grinning like a gobsh1te.
*Rally, rallycross and track. No road car is like a race car, regardless what hack journalists say. They can't be. But the R was as close to that feeling as I had experienced. The EK9 R similarly.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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I'm not surprised abut the older woman buying it. Apparently older ladies were a big buying demographic for these. I know of an Irish one that was bought by a retired woman, two UK ones the same. A thread on Honda Tech IIRC many years ago noted this in the States too. A load of the guys R's had older women as their first owners. A poster who worked in an Acura dealership confirmed that the cars were big sellers to those folks which surprised the sales guys. One test drive and they'd be out with the cheque books and roar off down the road. Broadly the buyers were young guys in their 20's and women in their 50's 60s, even 70's. No marketing department could have predicted that. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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And an Rx, with Mugen Gen 1 rear spoiler, Honda access rear bumper spats and side trim and wind deflectors*. Nice. IIRC this one also has the Gathers twin din radio setup with the faux carbon matching the rest of the trim. Prefer the standard rims myself though.
If you ticked the box for yellow seats you also got yellow stitching in the shift boot, steering wheel and back seats.
Funny enough this option didn't cost extra over the red/black interior option. You could option delete quite a bit on these when ordering. ABS, airbags, rear brake light, clock, Air con, radio and speakers, even the parcel shelf were option deletes. The only option mine originally had was air con. Everything else was deleted. You could even special order one with basic seats, no options and no power steering for track use.
*I threw mine away. Don't judge me! Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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I'd love to see another silver one again. The last time I did was 8 years back. Even better if it's a 00 that would be an Rx. They're about the most valuable of the JDM ones now, though ironically given the original purpose they're the heaviest of all. Even came with mod cons like keyless entry :eek: Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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I'd love to see another silver one again. The last time I did was 8 years back. Even better if it's a 00 that would be an Rx. They're about the most valuable of the JDM ones now, though ironically given the original purpose they're the heaviest of all. Even came with mod cons like keyless entry :eek:
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I'd love to see another silver one again. The last time I did was 8 years back. Even better if it's a 00 that would be an Rx. They're about the most valuable of the JDM ones now, though ironically given the original purpose they're the heaviest of all. Even came with mod cons like keyless entry :eek:
When I was buying my 98spec a friend of mine in Dublin (initials are JB) had a 00 silver one that he imported himself, I was very tempted to buy it but really want a CW one at the time. AFAICR his was a totally standard car and would have been a fairly high grade at auction. God only knows where it is now.0 -
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Nice silver Rx! Even has the Honda Access dealer option "cornering lights". :eek:
They alone would be worth a few quid to our American petrolheads who go stone mad for the JDM stuff. In that pic above the "Personal Box" ashtray replacement(basically the ashtray with a red cloth interior and a sticker on the outside) goes for 4-500 dollars. I've seen the parking pole kit go for 800. :eek: Note how they list the parcel tray as an option. That and the near useless standard security of Japanese 90's cars says much about the Japanese car crime rate, or lack of it.
Great to see it's still on the road even with the insurance/shure t'is an oul car nonsense in the mainstream Irish driving psyche of late. Outside Ireland where it seems there are three or four left, I know of one silver in Malta of all places, one in New Zealand, one brought into the US(dubiously and it got "customised"; K swap, bodykit etc), a couple in the UK. I'd say original JDM yellow ones would be around those kinda numbers.
I'd reckon outside of Japan Ireland has some of the rarest JDM cars of that era, or at least had. Guys in the UK are hanging onto them too and they have the advantage of a multi billion quid "classic" car market and the mindset that supports that. Values of such cars are still daftly low here though. IF you have the money and storage IMHO it's time to buy good examples of those 90's JDM iron.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Available only in Japan from early 99 onwards* to 2000(with a tiny number sold in 2001).
Basically a 98 Spec** no option deletes, so ABS/Aircon/clock/airbags etc as standard. Rear glass tinted, six speaker stereo, "sports" metal pedals, slightly different tint to the faux carbon fibre interior bits, retractable mirrors and keyless entry.
Mechanically they were the same, though the half shafts were more balanced(some have suggested different cam profiles, but they're the same stock number as 98spec). They also came with individual serial numbers on the plaque inside, the only JDM ones to have that. Because of all the extras they're the heaviest of all the Integra Type R's. IIRC 30 odd kilos compared to the option delete stripped down racing snake version.
*My 98spec was built in December 98 and Honda and the Japanese registry's records actually have it down as an Rx. In yellow no less. And it's neither.
*the 98 Spec was a fairly extensive change mechanically from the first JDM only 96, though many think the 96 the "purest". 1998 brought improved damper/spring rates, bigger brakes(from the NSX), 5 stud wheels 16', better exhaust and changes in the ECU. The 98 Spec is basically what was exported to the rest of the world including Ireland only with the earlier four separate round headlights front, which Honda reckoned would sell better in non Japanese markets. US market models are the cheapest spec, no Recaro seats, lower compression, 15' wheels from the Civic Type R. Europe got 15's too, that looked like the JDM 16's. Probably because of more rough roads outside of Japan.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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That's the one that was originally white and the owner stripped it down and repainted it.
Lovely and involved job on the respray, but it will impact the value down the line. The whale penis filter(makes noise and little else) and the third party exhaust manifold are easy to return to standard(if he kept the parts), but changing the original colour is considered a major no no in the classic world. If it was a 96 or 98 I'd be meh, but one of the last 20 ever made? Standard is everything*
To be fair he's a young lad and the young care sod all for posterity(thank Christ), it's his car, he did a bloody good job of it, it is a lovely example and fair fecks to him, but this old lad here is a bit cringe at the change.
*exceptions would be things like one that was completely Mugen or Spoon aftermarket in period stuff. That would get a premium for some.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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