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Munster vs Scarlets, Sat 24th March 5:30pm, Sky Sports

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    #92
    budhabob
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    Good man wootton, good try. Pass looked a little forward though was it?


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    #93
    Jack Kanoff
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    Disallow that your you cnut


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    #94
    Quint2010
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Please no..


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    #95
    budhabob
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    Good try.


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    #96
    razorblunt
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    I hate when players call for reviews like Varndell pretending it was a knock on. He knew it was clearly a try and grounded.


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    #97
    vienne86
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    Thank f*** he's awarded the try. Great stuff by the forwards.


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    #98
    mangobob
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    No less than Munster deserve.


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    #99
    Quint2010
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    Copeland has had a huge match


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    #100
    vienne86
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    No BP for Scarlets. :D


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    #101
    Jack Kanoff
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    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Copeland has had a huge match

    He did...he's actually been massive all season


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    #102
    PetKing
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    The offiating tonight was an absolute disgrace. That said, I'm not a referee so I'm sure it was all fine so carry on. Stunned to get that win, better econd half.


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    #103
    prawnsambo
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    For everyone frothing, you really shouldn't be listening to commentators on the laws iof the game. Double movement is actually a rugby league offence, the actual offence in rugby union is 'not releasing'. You are entitled to reach out and place the ball, but pushing it along the ground is actually a deliberate knock-on.
    15.5 The tackled Player
    (c) A tackled player may release the ball by putting it on the ground in any direction, provided this is done immediately.
    Sanction: Penalty kick

    (d) A tackled player may release the ball by pushing it along the ground in any direction except forward, provided this is done immediately.
    Sanction: Penalty kick

    A commando crawl, even a truncated one is not allowed.


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    #104
    BBDBB
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    For everyone frothing, you really shouldn't be listening to commentators on the laws iof the game. Double movement is actually a rugby league offence, the actual offence in rugby union is 'not releasing'. You are entitled to reach out and place the ball, but pushing it along the ground is actually a knock-on.



    A commando crawl, even a truncated one is not allowed.

    I thought his arm movement immediately after the tackle was an over arm motion precisely to avoid rolling it along the ground


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    #105
    [Deleted User]
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    Don't forget
    22.4(e)

    If a player is tackled near to the opponents’ goal line so that this player can immediately reach out and ground the ball on or over the goal line, a try is scored.

    Players are generally allowed to get away with one additional body movement after forward momentum has stopped but that is unequivocally against the rules.
    The player in this case (who was it?) had stopped his forward momentum and then used his body to move forward a second time while reaching out.

    The try absolutely should have been given, but it is also absolutely technically not a try.


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    #106
    prawnsambo
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Don't forget


    Players are allowed to get away with one additional body movement after forward momentum has stopped but that is unequivcally against the rules.

    The try absolutely should have been given, but it is also absolutely technically not a try.
    No they are not. They can only reach out, they can't move their body. You actually quoted it.


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    #107
    Jack Kanoff
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    For everyone frothing, you really shouldn't be listening to commentators on the laws iof the game. Double movement is actually a rugby league offence, the actual offence in rugby union is 'not releasing'. You are entitled to reach out and place the ball, but pushing it along the ground is actually a deliberate knock-on.

    I'm sure I speak for every Munster fan here when I say . stop talking shïte

    A commando crawl, even a truncated one is not allowed.

    m sure I speak for every Munster fan here when I say . stop talking shïte


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    #108
    prawnsambo
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    BBDBB wrote: »
    I thought his arm movement immediately after the tackle was an over arm motion precisely to avoid rolling it along the ground
    If he hadn't moved the rest of his body, it would have been fine.

    And I'm listening to Ieuan Evans on about it again. Who I called out earlier in the match for another clanger.


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    #109
    Clegg
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    To throw the cat amongst the pigeons Munsters final try probably shouldn't have been allowed. The passer started in a stationary position so the ball never could've went backward before going forward


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    #110
    [Deleted User]
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    No they are not. They can only reach out, they can't move their body. You actually quoted it.

    Perhaps you should read my post before replying.


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    #111
    DDC1990
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    prawnsambo wrote:
    For everyone frothing, you really shouldn't be listening to commentators on the laws iof the game. Double movement is actually a rugby league offence, the actual offence in rugby union is 'not releasing'. You are entitled to reach out and place the ball, but pushing it along the ground is actually a deliberate knock-on.


    And the rule you have quoted has absolutely nothing to do with what happened. He placed the ball immediately on/beyond the try line.

    He didn't roll the ball whatsoever.


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    #112
    BBDBB
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    If that’s the law and that’s the interpretation of the law then fair enough

    However, we all know that any similar action hasn’t been interpreted that way before (in my memory) and I’d place serious money that it won’t be again

    It was a poor decision, sadly not the only one tonight


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    #113
    eigrod
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    BBDBB wrote: »
    I thought his arm movement immediately after the tackle was an over arm motion precisely to avoid rolling it along the ground

    It was. The poster you quoted mustn’t have seen it if he’s talking about pushing it along the ground.


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    #114
    Elvisjuice
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    as i said planks will be on saying ref is right


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    #115
    Jack Kanoff
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    Clegg wrote: »
    To throw the cat amongst the pigeons Munsters final try probably shouldn't have been allowed. The passer started in a stationary position so the ball never could've went backward before going forward

    Incorrect...as usual?


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    #116
    thomond2006
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    I didn't see the game but that is a fantastic result.


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    #117
    BBDBB
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    Clegg wrote: »
    To throw the cat amongst the pigeons Munsters final try probably shouldn't have been allowed. The passer started in a stationary position so the ball never could've went backward before going forward


    BURN THE HERETIC

    ;-)


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    #118
    prawnsambo
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Perhaps you should read my post before replying.
    I read it. And it's wrong. You said 'body movement' while quoting the law which says "reach out".

    You are tackled. You must release the ball when tackled, but can place it. At the try line, you can place if over the line. What's so hard to understand?


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    #119
    Jack Kanoff
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I didn't see the game but that is a fantastic result.

    "Quotes"
    ;););)


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    #120
    Jack Kanoff
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    I read it. And it's wrong. You said 'body movement' while quoting the law which says "reach out".

    You are tackled. You must release the ball when tackled, but can place it. At the try line, you can place if over the line. What's so hard to understand?

    Well.. you're wrong.. what is so hard to understand?.


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    #121
    prawnsambo
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    Jack Kanoff wrote: »
    Well.. you're wrong.. what is so hard to understand?.
    When you actually quote the law and apply it, I'll be all ears. But one-liners are about as useful as tits on a bull.

    Not that I'd expect anything else tbh.


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