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Shoddiest DIY job
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20-03-2018 11:55am#1Back in the day I was in a house and found this yoke (attached) being used to give someone a few extra sockets in their room. I hope noone ever had the misfortune of unplugging the "wrong" end first
Still have the thing in my archives somewhere. What is the shoddiest you have seen?4
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suicide_circus wrote: »It's next to impossible to get any tradesmen for any small to medium jobs these days. Im gonna end up doing jobs with the laptop beside me watching instructional videos on YouTube
That is actually a very valid point. "Handymen" don't really seem to be a thing anymore
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That is actually a very valid point. "Handymen" don't really seem to be a thing anymore
Lots of them advertising in our area, signs in local shops, Facebook groups littered with them...
Though, to be fair, there's lots of jobs they're probably not allowed to do anymore from a legal perspective. Particularly anything electrical.0 -
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That is actually a very valid point. "Handymen" don't really seem to be a thing anymore
It is still a thing. You can even get insurance to become one. Everyone needs insurance now. Where would we be if you didn't spend a few weeks every year working to keep some nothing-doers and Facebook lookers-at in a glass office building in Dublin in their jobs.
I would be tempted myself but I wonder is it worth the trouble as the pay is fairly shocking and you have the usual hassle with people not paying, people thinking you charge too much and trying to blame you for other problems that cropped up around the time you did your job for them.0 -
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Ubbquittious wrote: »Back in the day I was in a house and found this yoke (attached) being used to give someone a few extra sockets in their room. I hope noone ever had the misfortune of unplugging the "wrong" end first
Still have the thing in my archives somewhere. What is the shoddiest you have seen?
In the electrician industry, I believe a 2 plugged flex like that is known as a Widowmaker for obvious reasons.0 -
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Ubbquittious wrote: »Back in the day I was in a house and found this yoke (attached) being used to give someone a few extra sockets in their room. I hope noone ever had the misfortune of unplugging the "wrong" end first
Still have the thing in my archives somewhere. What is the shoddiest you have seen?
I don't get it. How does that cable get you extra sockets?0 -
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corner of hells wrote: »Be brave , start with the most difficult , like moving the gas boiler followed by moving the fuse board
At the same time and don’t bother with silly things like shutting of the mains 0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »Time and patience are major factors alright. Personally I wouldn't do tiling myself unless I was properly broke but really didn't like the current tiles. :pac:
Looking around it seems mates rates are the way to go. Good enough job at a half or third of the price for a lot of things.
Gas I won't touch and electricity in a rented place is none of my business. :P
Tiling isnt really that hard. If you start in a straight line then its just a matter of keeping each tile level and in line with the tiles beside it.
Its a bit of a pain when you need to cut around pipes etc but it can be done.
I tiled my bathroom and kitchen last year as my first every tiling jobs and to be honest its easy enough.
Broken Arrows Tiling Tips:
:D:D
1. Dont use quick set adhesive unless you really have to, it just dries too quickly. You can only mix a small amount at a time and it becomes unusable after around 1 hour. The normal stuff stays workable for 4+ hours. The professionals use the quickset because they are quick at their job. Us novices take too long.
2. Remove everything you can from the walls to avoid having to cut around too many objects.
3. Try and choose a medium size tile. Small tiles are tedious and hard to keep level with each other. Very large tiles are hard to put up because they are heavy and you need to support them a lot. I used a 50cm x 25cm tile for the bathroom which were good enough to work with. Maybe a little too big but it was ok.
4. Dont tile on top of paint! You are just sticking your tiles to a layer of paint then and they will come off very very easily. I made this mistake in the kitchen for the first few tiles that i had layed the day before. They literlly just fell off the wall and took the layer of paint with them. Heavily score the surface of the wall before tiling and clean the wall to remove the dust from scoring.
5. Carefully consider the width between the tiles and the spacers you use. I used a 4mm spacers and i think this was too much. You might not think 4mm is too much but it actually looks big when you fill with grouting. It also takes a lot of grouting to fill in a 4mm gap everywhere.
6. WASH YOUR TOOLS a couple of times throughout the day and when you finish. Leaving hard adhesive on your tools is a nightmare to remove.
7. Try and estimate where your tiles will end and how much of a tile you will have for the last piece. I didnt do this and ended up having to cut a 1.5cm strip of tile for the edge along the ceiling. It doesnt look great. If i was doing it again i would have started at the bottom with a 1/2 tile so that when i finished at the ceiling i could have used large cut of tile instead of just a 1.5cm strip.0 -
Yeah I'm just incredibly lazy. :P Was talking with a mate about this recently and I just find stuff like that really horrible to do. If I had a mate to work with I'd give it a blast myself. In the folks' house we had cousins do it, both did it for under 100 a day and did a pretty much perfect job. That included removing the shower and re-fitting and stuff.BrokenArrows wrote: »Tiling isnt really that hard. If you start in a straight line then its just a matter of keeping each tile level and in line with the tiles beside it.
Its a bit of a pain when you need to cut around pipes etc but it can be done.
I tiled my bathroom and kitchen last year as my first every tiling jobs and to be honest its easy enough.
Broken Arrows Tiling Tips::D:D
1. Dont use quick set adhesive unless you really have to, it just dries too quickly. You can only mix a small amount at a time and it becomes unusable after around 1 hour. The normal stuff stays workable for 4+ hours. The professionals use the quickset because they are quick at their job. Us novices take too long.
2. Remove everything you can from the walls to avoid having to cut around too many objects.
3. Try and choose a medium size tile. Small tiles are tedious and hard to keep level with each other. Very large tiles are hard to put up because they are heavy and you need to support them a lot. I used a 50cm x 25cm tile for the bathroom which were good enough to work with. Maybe a little too big but it was ok.
4. Dont tile on top of paint! You are just sticking your tiles to a layer of paint then and they will come off very very easily. I made this mistake in the kitchen for the first few tiles that i had layed the day before. They literlly just fell off the wall and took the layer of paint with them. Heavily score the surface of the wall before tiling and clean the wall to remove the dust from scoring.
5. Carefully consider the width between the tiles and the spacers you use. I used a 4mm spacers and i think this was too much. You might not think 4mm is too much but it actually looks big when you fill with grouting. It also takes a lot of grouting to fill in a 4mm gap everywhere.
6. WASH YOUR TOOLS a couple of times throughout the day and when you finish. Leaving hard adhesive on your tools is a nightmare to remove.
7. Try and estimate where you tiles will end and how much of a tile you will have for the last piece. I didnt do this and ended up having to cut a 1.5cm strip of tile for the edge along the ceiling. It doesnt look great. If i was doing it again i would have started at the bottom with a 1/2 tile so that when i finished at the ceiling i could have used large cut of tile instead of just a 1.5cm strip.0 -
some good advice thereBrokenArrows wrote: »Tiling isnt really that hard. If you start in a straight line then its just a matter of keeping each tile level and in line with the tiles beside it.
Its a bit of a pain when you need to cut around pipes etc but it can be done.
I tiled my bathroom and kitchen last year as my first every tiling jobs and to be honest its easy enough.
Broken Arrows Tiling Tips::D:D
1. Dont use quick set adhesive unless you really have to, it just dries too quickly. You can only mix a small amount at a time and it becomes unusable after around 1 hour. The normal stuff stays workable for 4+ hours. The professionals use the quickset because they are quick at their job. Us novices take too long.
2. Remove everything you can from the walls to avoid having to cut around too many objects.
3. Try and choose a medium size tile. Small tiles are tedious and hard to keep level with each other. Very large tiles are hard to put up because they are heavy and you need to support them a lot. I used a 50cm x 25cm tile for the bathroom which were good enough to work with. Maybe a little too big but it was ok.
4. Dont tile on top of paint! You are just sticking your tiles to a layer of paint then and they will come off very very easily. I made this mistake in the kitchen for the first few tiles that i had layed the day before. They literlly just fell off the wall and took the layer of paint with them. Heavily score the surface of the wall before tiling and clean the wall to remove the dust from scoring.
5. Carefully consider the width between the tiles and the spacers you use. I used a 4mm spacers and i think this was too much. You might not think 4mm is too much but it actually looks big when you fill with grouting. It also takes a lot of grouting to fill in a 4mm gap everywhere.
6. WASH YOUR TOOLS a couple of times throughout the day and when you finish. Leaving hard adhesive on your tools is a nightmare to remove.
7. Try and estimate where you tiles will end and how much of a tile you will have for the last piece. I didnt do this and ended up having to cut a 1.5cm strip of tile for the edge along the ceiling. It doesnt look great. If i was doing it again i would have started at the bottom with a 1/2 tile so that when i finished at the ceiling i could have used large cut of tile instead of just a 1.5cm strip.
i did a small tiling course a few years ago. the instructer used to say . never lay your first tile before you know where the last one will end0 -
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