Wild Wild Country (Netflix)

gmisk

I can't see a thread on this doc.
Is anyone else watching this?
I am on episode 3..astonishing stuff....just getting more and more crazy!

Wild Wild Country is a Netflix documentary series based on a controversial Indian guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Osho)

Tigerbaby

yes

watched first 3 today also.

I thought the Scientologists were tricky, but these people !

Beggars belief

anewme

Dont want to post too much in case people havent finished it yet.

The middle episodes 3 and 4 were really excellent and although the last two could have been condensed into one, they were still good!

The characters were all amazing and if you didnt know any better you would not beleive this was factual.]

I did not end up @ the conclusion that Sheela was the ultimate baddie by the way.

fin12

I felt sorry for the locals when they took over the cafe. That must have been horrible, it’s was probably a place where they socialized and probably made a lot of the locals isolated from each other.

anewme

Bhagwans face when and why he decided to start talking again was priceless!

Mam of 4

anewme wrote: »

Dont want to post too much in case people havent finished it yet.

The middle episodes 3 and 4 were really excellent and although the last two could have been condensed into one, they were still good!

The characters were all amazing and if you didnt know any better you would not beleive this was factual.]

I did not end up @ the conclusion that Sheela was the ultimate baddie by the way.

I agree with you about Sheela . Yes she done some atrocious things , but were they off her own bat or coming from Oshu ? At their nightly talks ?

The poor locals ,.and the homeless people . Brought in , and then drugged also ?!

Absolutely crazy stuff , some times fact really is stranger than fiction !

anewme

Mam of 4 wrote: »

I agree with you about Sheela . Yes she done some atrocious things , but were they off her own bat or coming from Oshu ? At omit.btheir nightly talks ?

The poor locals ,.and the homeless people . Brought in , and then drugged also ?!

Absolutely crazy stuff , some times fact really is stranger than fiction !

The homeless people incident made me laugh, not at them being used as voters and drugged (terrible) but at the whole idea of someone actually thinking this was a good idea and deciding to do it.

And then not seeing in advance they were going to act up,

And then them just being delivered back out.

I found Bhagwan comical.

How could anyone follow him?

He made stuff up as he went along whatever suited him.

Harambe

Just watched three episodes straight of this. Still trying to wrap my head around it. Crazy stuff!

Mam of 4

anewme wrote: »

The homeless people incident made me laugh, not at them being used as voters and drugged (terrible) but at the whole idea of someone actually thinking this was a good idea and deciding to do it.

And then not seeing in advance they were going to act up,

And then them just being delivered back out.

I found Bhagwan comical.

How could anyone follow him?

He made stuff up as he went along whatever suited him.

How on earth were they falling for him ?
With his scraggly beard and greasy hair , he reminded me of Osama Bin Laden if I'm honest !

His followers were like Lemmings , if he had said to jump off a cliff , they would have .

His Lawyer was creepy I thought , never dis swayed in his belief in him , madness .

johnpatrick81

Mam of 4 wrote: »

His Lawyer was creepy I thought , never dis swayed in his belief in him , madness .

It never says what the lawyer, and 2 of the other former cult members are at currently. I got the impression they are still part of its seemingly ongoing profitable existence.

Hence why they are still “drinking the kool aid”.

The whole thing was about money. Even Sheela was a blooming business/marketing expert.

At least the nutty Aussie wan seemed to come to her senses, admittedly a tad late after 2 failed murder attempts, a jail sentence and almost missing her son’s final days

Agent Coulson

I love that these places seem to start with the greatest intentions for those that join and then go completely bonkers.

anewme

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I love that these places seem to start with the greatest intentions for those that join and then go completely bonkers.

I reckon that was a complete scam from the get go though.

The eejits were lining up to wave at bagwan in his rolls Royce, and them working 12hours a day.

I’m into jewellery and noticed sheela had some snazzy pieces,

Bhagwan and his million dollar Rolex...in the 8O,s,.lthe lawyer crying at Bagwan such a beautiful man having to answer police questions. Bag wan smiling away with the same grimace in his face.

Bagwan was the most obviously materialistic spiritual person I’ve ever seen. Bowing snd scraping before flying away on his Lear jet with the loot.

Complete chancer and a sleazy greaseball.

Just How good was this!

fin12

anewme wrote: »

I reckon that was a scam from the get go though.

The eejits were lining up to wave at bagwan in his rolls Royce, and them working 12hours a day.

I’m into jewellery and noticed sheela had some snazsy pieces,

Bhagwan and his million dollar Rolex...in the 8O,s,

Bagwan was the most obviously materialistic spiritual person I’ve ever seen.

Complete chancer and a sleazy greaseball.

I’m only on the third episode, but how many wives did he end up having?

anewme

fin12 wrote: »

I’m only on the third episode, but how many wives did he end up having?

I’m thinking of something funny that happened, but as you are not there yet, I won’t ruin it.

Bagwan was very choosy about who he sleeps with so he was!

fin12

anewme wrote: »

I’m thinking of something funny that happened, but as you are not there yet, I won’t ruin it.

Bagwan was very choosy about who he sleeps with so he was!

Did Bagwan and Shella have a relationship,? so far it hasn’t mentioned anything.

anewme

fin12 wrote: »

Did Bagwan and Shella have a relationship,? so far it hasn’t mentioned anything.

All will be revealed!

Bagwan will have his say!

Going to have to watch that episode again.

Mam of 4

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

It never says what the lawyer, and 2 of the other former cult members are at currently. I got the impression they are still part of its seemingly ongoing profitable existence.

Hence why they are still “drinking the kool aid”.

The whole thing was about money. Even Sheela was a blooming business/marketing expert.

At least the nutty Aussie wan seemed to come to her senses, admittedly a tad late after 2 failed murder attempts, a jail sentence and almost missing her son’s final days

Was the lawyer married to the other bobbed hair,grey,woman ? Maybe I picked that up wrong .
Ha , at least the Aussie woman eventually copped on , but the way she sat there and spoke so calmly about trying to kill people and thought it was ok , is scary tbh .

How on earth did people not realise they were the money makers for power crazy leaders with the private jets , it's beyond me .

fin12

anewme wrote: »

All will be revealed!

Bagwan will have his say!

Going to have to watch that episode again.

I want to know now , haha.......

gmisk

anewme wrote: »

All will be revealed!

Bagwan will have his say!

Going to have to watch that episode again.

In episode 5 when Shella goes on the run he speaks a lot including to say they never had a physical relationship

fin12

anewme wrote: »

All will be revealed!

Bagwan will have his say!

Going to have to watch that episode again.

Haha I know what you mean now, that was very funny.

Ewan Hoosarmi

No doubt it was all a scam, what with 17(?) Rolls Royces, private jets and obvious big spending going on. But, I wonder what would have happened if the locals had just left them to it. The cult only went off the rails when the locals tried to shut them down. All the locals had to do was take their money where they could. It was a goldmine on their doorstep, but they got hung up on the free sex thing and did some high horse climbing instead.

Every time I saw Bagwan, and the little smile on his face, I had to admire him. Living the life of luxury at the expense of the loyal, idiot followers. I would have been grinning ear to ear.

gmisk

Ewan Hoosarmi wrote: »

No doubt it was all a scam, what with 17(?) Rolls Royces, private jets and obvious big spending going on. But, I wonder what would have happened if the locals had just left them to it. The cult only went off the rails when the locals tried to shut them down. All the locals had to do was take their money where they could. It was a goldmine on their doorstep, but they got hung up on the free sex thing and did some high horse climbing instead.

Every time I saw Bagwan, and the little smile on his face, I had to admire him. Living the life of luxury at the expense of the loyal, idiot followers. I would have been grinning ear to ear.

I think they would have gone off the rails anyway - look at all the trouble they had left behind in India...that seemed to be main reason they upped sticks to Oregon.
Besides I wouldnt want to be forced out of a place I lived via intimidation either.

Ewan Hoosarmi

gmisk wrote: »

I think they would have gone off the rails anyway - look at all the trouble they had left behind in India...that seemed to be main reason they upped sticks to Oregon.
Besides I wouldnt want to be forced out of a place I lived via intimidation either.

Yeah, probably. It wasn't the most stable arrangement. (understatement alert)

gmisk

Ewan Hoosarmi wrote: »

Yeah, probably. It wasn't the most stable arrangement. (understatement alert)

I was gonna say!

Poisoning people and planning on eliminating anyopposition

...then again Russia...lol

johnpatrick81

Any sympathy I had for the cult was firmly eroded by the time I'd finished the story. The leaders' sole aim was to generate money. Whatever reasons the locals had to hate them from the get go were validated with what followed. I for sure wouldn't want my old quiet retirement village threatened (and eventually swallowed hole) by some megalomaniac freaks.

fin12

Ewan Hoosarmi wrote: »

No doubt it was all a scam, what with 17(?) Rolls Royces, private jets and obvious big spending going on. But, I wonder what would have happened if the locals had just left them to it. The cult only went off the rails when the locals tried to shut them down. All the locals had to do was take their money where they could. It was a goldmine on their doorstep, but they got hung up on the free sex thing and did some high horse climbing instead.

Every time I saw Bagwan, and the little smile on his face, I had to admire him. Living the life of luxury at the expense of the loyal, idiot followers. I would have been grinning ear to ear.

I didn’t see it like that at all, I don’t think the locals would have interfered if they stayed in their own city but they starting taking over Antelope and other cities, the rachneehees ( wrong spelling I know) had no intention of integrating with the locals, they wanted to take over hence all the buildings being bought.

anewme

Ewan Hoosarmi wrote: »

Every time I saw Bagwan, and the little smile on his face, I had to admire him. Living the life of luxury at the expense of the loyal, idiot followers. I would have been grinning ear to ear.

I was actually falling around laughing at Bhagwan, he was brilliant - he was so transparent that it was unbelieveable that they could not see through him. He was no more spiritual than the man in the moon and was the most materialistic person ever. he was smiling away to himself at them all fawning over him.

He made stuff up at the drop of a hat, talking, not talking, talking in riddles and the big raging head on him when he decided again to speak was priceless. His eyes were huge in his head with rage and he got a few digs in. I was laughing out loud at this bit.

fin12

anewme wrote: »

I was actually falling around laughing at Bhagwan, he was brilliant - he was so transparent that it was unbelieveable that they could not see through him. He was no more spiritual than the man in the moon and was the most materialistic person ever. he was smiling away to himself at them all fawning over him.

He made stuff up at the drop of a hat, talking, not talking, talking in riddles and the big raging head on him when he decided again to speak was priceless. His eyes were huge in his head with rage and he got a few digs in. I was laughing out loud at this bit.

do you remember when he was shown the tv of Sheela talking about him and he was like She’s Drugged, she’s on hard drugs, it was so funny, he looked to me like he was off his face on drugs as well

johnpatrick81

fin12 wrote: »

do you remember when he was shown the tv of Sheela talking about him and he was like She’s Drugged, she’s on hard drugs, it was so funny, he looked to me like he was off his face on drugs as well

there was that clip they showed when they were talking about the doc and celebs getting him hooked on laughing gas, and he giggled like a little girl! What a man!

anewme

Ah stop folks.......

Bhagwan suddenly found his voice when Sheela shafted him and he was very vicious for one so spiritual. The head on him (blaming someone else being on drugs! It was at that time that HE brought the Feds in by invite and that was the beginning of the end. He made so many accusations that they had the ideal opportunity to go in! the funniest for me was him saying- I never made love to her - I would never make love to a Secretary!!!! And then he appoints yer wan from Hollywood as the next Secretary and he's back smiling and joining his hands again.

Was also in knots at
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hagwan legging it with the loot and then being captured. then he said, he wanted to go back. then you just see him, smiling away with his joined hands pose, as he jets off away with the loot having caused complete mayhem.

johnpatrick81

and the absolute

ghoul of a lawyer sobbing that poor obi wan kenobi wasn't flown back by private jet. I was delighted they gave him a whistle stop tour of all US jails. Did ya see he brought his "throne" on the bloody plane!! Ah lads.

anewme

for someone so educated and sharp with certain things, he was thick as 2 short planks. Such a complete tool!

These characters were simply brilliant.

Bhagwan was an absolute legend though, everytime I saw his fixed smile and joined hands, I was laughing my head off at the brazen cheek of him and him getting away with it. And laughing at the fools with no common sense.

Even his name? Just how many names had Bhagwan?

robwen

Crikey he was only

58 when he died

What was the deal with

Bhagwan wanting his doctor to kill him? (revealed when Sheela bugged his room)

Totally binged on this today...I agreed with Sheela myself at the end

God it was fascinating. I couldn’t fathom the vastness of the commune in Oregon... like an airport, shopping centre etc!

I actually was gobsmacked during all of episode 3 and 4!!

Mam of 4

Chase Stocky Temper wrote: »

Totally binged on this today...I agreed with Sheela myself at the end

God it was fascinating. I couldn’t fathom the vastness of the commune in Oregon... like an airport, shopping centre etc!

I actually was gobsmacked during all of episode 3 and 4!!

You couldn't make it up , it was so unreal the facilities they had there !

Mam of 4

Mam of 4 wrote: »

You couldn't make it up , it was so unreal the facilities they had there !

Wasn’t it!! God it was mad!

anewme

Mam of 4 wrote: »

You couldn't make it up , it was so unreal the facilities they had there !

Sheela on the phone barking orders at one stage and the beauticians doing her nails and pampering her and fussing round her like a celebrity

They loved their luxuries.

Mam of 4

anewme wrote: »

Sheela on the phone barking orders at one stage and the beauticians doing her nails and pampering her and fussing round her like a celebrity

They loved their luxuries.

Illusions (Delusions!) Of Grandeur

The fact that so many people fell for their BS is what gets me . Then again , most cults/sects are the same , bringing in money in droves, for the benefit of the one's in Power . Bat-sh!t crazy if you ask me .

anewme

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Illusions (Delusions!) Of Grandeur

The fact that so many people fell for their BS is what gets me . Then again , most cults/sects are the same , bringing in money in droves, for the benefit of the one's in Power . Bat-sh!t crazy if you ask me .

I think they were sharp as tacks!

Pitched to a perfect audience.

Middle class and upper class people bored to tears with their suburban lifestyles and thinking there has to be more to life than this with plenty of cash to boot were a perfect target.

The homeless people were actually more streetwise and saw it as a crock of ****e, hence were given dodgy beer to keep them agreeable.

Mam of 4

anewme wrote: »

I think they were sharp as tacks!

Pitched to a perfect audience.

Middle class and upper class people bored to tears with their suburban lifestyles and thinking there has to be more to life than this with plenty of cash to boot were a perfect target.

The homeless people were actually more streetwise and saw it as a crock of ****e, hence were given dodgy beer to keep them agreeable.

Oh I agree that they were very clever and knew exactly what they were doing , having so many communes around the World , nothing stupid about that !

I meant crazy in how people fall for this time and time again , that's all .

anewme

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Oh I agree that they were very clever and knew exactly what they were doing , having so many communes around the World , nothing stupid about that !

I meant crazy in how people fall for this time and time again , that's all .

Yep you’d have to wonder about the cop on.

I was laughing at how they swallowed it all. The Hollywood set were one element.

then Yer man crying as Bagwan flew off into the sunset....

Just priceless.

Mam of 4

anewme wrote: »

I was laughing at how they swallowed it all. The Hollywood set were one element.

then Yer man crying as Bagwan flew off into the sunset....

Just priceless.

Ha true !!

He flew off and they were left to return to...what exactly ?
The disintegration of all that they knew and had lived for years .

More money than common sense most of them :pac:

anewme

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Ha true !!

He flew off and they were left to return to...what exactly ?
The disintegration of all that they knew and had lived for years .

More money than common sense most of them :pac:

someone said said solicitor guy is still involved in the new set up. Not sure how true.

It’s still turning over a few quid.

There’s still a lot of eejits out there.

That in itself is just Scary!!!

Ewan Hoosarmi

At the end of it, I was looking around our garden to see how many rich idiots devoted followers I could fit in tents. Daddy needs a new Rolls Royce.:D

SeaFields

Watching this too. Just finished episode 3. Absolutely bonkers stuff. Half the time is say I'm watching it with my mouth open in disbelief. Those group "therapy" segments are comical. They really are a strange bunch of people the yanks.

fatknacker

That Bowerman Nike guy has his swooshes on his shirt to resemble an *ahem* old Hindi symbol (swastika).

Malayalam

Great docu series. They had fantastic amounts of footage to work with and did a good job. I have known about Osho for a long time, first met his sannyasins in India in the late 80s, they were vague, gullible, hedonistic, ego serving new age loons, even the nice ones, so I felt no attraction. Osho himself though was no goon, he was very well read and he did have something. By the end though he was addled on drugs and had extreme anxiety disorder, or perhaps ME, so I heard. Sheelas militaristic devotion was weird, a right tough chaw. I noticed neither her nor Osho blinked on camera, some say that is a sign of sociopath. Anyway worth a watch for sure. By the way the Rajneesh movement is still huge, still ashrams, communes, encounter groups, etc.

patmac

The look! My brother is a born again Christmas and they all have that look. Feckin loons, some fine birds though. He was only 58 when he died he looked 108,must have been the Valium and the Nitros oxide he took everyday.

WhatsGoingOn2

Where did they get all the money from?

fatknacker

From their followers and investments. Also merchandise. Who'd not love an Osho mug!

Asus X540L

Does this get better?

Watched episode 1 thought it was boring.