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Getting loads of interviews but not a peep back.

  • 07-03-2018 3:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    So I'm on the job hunt about 3 months now, I haven't got loads of work experience behind me but it's varied enough that it's leaves my options pretty open. I was actually pleasantly shocked at how many interviews I'm getting it's nearing around 1 a week sometimes 2.

    So it seems like I'm a model employee until I actually do the interview and I don't seem to be getting any word back.

    I'm healthily self-critical so I do a self evaluation after every interview and pick a few things I should try improve for the next one. But the lack of responses after meeting people, compared to the response I get via email is quite daunting and for that reason I'm trying to think of what's different in person than over the email.

    Appearance wise I'd say I look pretty professional, I normally wear a smart jacket and shirt (with or without a tie depending on what I can see about the company online) and slacks, all washed and ironed that day. Hygiene wise, I always shower that day, wear deodorant, brush my teeth and even bring mouthwash the odd time and swish some 15 mins beforehand.

    I do suffer from the usual interview nerves so I consciously adjust my body language to appear more confident and make good but not intrusive eye contact. I can stumble over my words but not every sentence, I feel like I articulate what I want to say well.

    So I'm just wondering does anyone have any advice on factors I should consider or insights on why I'm not getting the call backs after a good record of getting interviews ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    Oh actually one factor I forgot to add and it's probably important, I did suddenly leave my job in January with no prospects so that doesn't look great, but to be honest I change my reason for leaving depending on the job I'm applying for, I usually have a well prepared reason so that aspect doesn't seem to gather too much attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    How long were you in that job for?

    Getting back to someone over a bad interview runs the risk of a lawsuit if you say the wrong thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    the_syco wrote: »
    How long were you in that job for?

    Getting back to someone over a bad interview runs the risk of a lawsuit if you say the wrong thing.

    I was in the job for just over a year. Yeah true I can see why businesses would be reluctant to deal with unsuccessful candidates any longer than they need to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭correction


    I'm no expert and can't at all tell without meeting you in person but is it possible, based on your post, that maybe you're trying too hard to be the perfect interviewee and not displaying your natural personality? I know when I did my first few interviews out of school it was like that for me before my Mam told me to relax and go in as me and not who I think they're looking for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Fozzydog3 wrote:
    Oh actually one factor I forgot to add and it's probably important, I did suddenly leave my job in January with no prospects so that doesn't look great, but to be honest I change my reason for leaving depending on the job I'm applying for, I usually have a well prepared reason so that aspect doesn't seem to gather too much attention.


    It shouldn't matter. I did the same with no issues. As I work in IT where charging jobs is routine, I've come to the conclusion that it takes a minimum of three months to get a new job.

    If you are going via recruiters then pester them to get feedback. In a lot of job openings, employers may not want to give any feedback or make a decision to rule out people for weeks until they get a sense for the quality of applicants.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    correction wrote: »
    I'm no expert and can't at all tell without meeting you in person but is it possible, based on your post, that maybe you're trying too hard to be the perfect interviewee and not displaying your natural personality? I know when I did my first few interviews out of school it was like that for me before my Mam told me to relax and go in as me and not who I think they're looking for.

    That's a fair point I'll ease up a tad and hopefully appear more natural.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭badboyblast


    You should always wear a suit, first impressions are great , always follow up on the interview with an e mail to say thanks and give them a few points on how you would be suitable for the job , what line of work are you in ? What are your qualifications?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    You should always wear a suit, first impressions are great , always follow up on the interview with an e mail to say thanks and give them a few points on how you would be suitable for the job , what line of work are you in ? What are your qualifications?

    I feel like I'd be over dressed in a full suit for most of the places I'm applying for (that's also based on peer's experience). Following up is something I've recently started to implement so thanks for the good advice. I'm applying for tourism and entry level admin jobs. And my qualifications are limited to a PLC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    Have you tried going through a recruitment agency? They’ll usually do prep interviews with you and give you tips on mistakes you might be making that you’re not aware of. They’ll usually get you feedback as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    Have you tried going through a recruitment agency? They’ll usually do prep interviews with you and give you tips on mistakes you might be making that you’re not aware of. They’ll usually get you feedback as well


    Last time I went with one of those, this one drags me all the way into town for her to say that I seem too "relaxed" for that position, I asked her if she'd like to expand on that and she goes "I dunno you have a relaxed demeanor about you" but what do you know she had a job for me to actually work with them, so I fill out an application form and she told me to wait for her boss, well they left me in there on my own for 20 minutes until I just walked out.

    I may have to go to one though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭AlphabetCards


    Just stood up and walked? Did you give them a farewell or anything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    I suffer from a similar problem OP and for me personally it's just down to a lack of preparation. I have 5 years experience so I know what I'm doing, but I had a mare in my last interview and walked myself into a few competency based errors around dealing with troublesome cases/colleagues.

    I didn't put the effort in simple as that. When you're in the moment you think if you continue waffling then you've done a good interview. It's only after the fact you realise you fcuked up. Nothing to do with how you're dressed (as long as you look professional).

    Next time just really do your homework. Learn about the company and get someone to help prepare for basic questions around problem solving, competency, teamwork and conflict resolution. Act like you want the job by showing interest and ask questions and trust me when I say nerves are understandable, but it's important that you don't let your nerve be misinterpreted as either a) disinterest in being there and b) not knowing what you're talking about. Prep will help calm you on both scores.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    If you turned up for a meeting with a recruiter without a suit, I can see why they might say you seem too relaxed. I wouldn’t dream of going to meet a recruiter or employer without a suit. I believe you should always wear a suit to an interview. It may not be the issue you’re not getting interviews but certainly won’t do you any harm.

    You mention that you’re looking for 3 months and doing nearly 1 interview a week. That’s quite a lot of interviews. You’re interview skills should be well honed at this stage. It might be worth making an appointment with an interview coach so maybe you’re not interviewing as well you think.

    On a positive note your CV is obviously very strong, indicated by the number of interviews. I presume these interviews are with employers directly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Usually you'll be given a chance to ask some questions of your own. Always do this, and one of the questions should be 'It was great meeting you, and thank you for this opportunity. Can I ask what the next steps are in your process and when perhaps I'll hear some feeback'?

    Then, maybe a day later or two, send them an email. It'll keep your name in their minds, and their inbox.

    Dear whoever
    Thank you for the interview opportunity on the 15th and it was great to meet Joe and Ann. I would love the opportunity to work for ACME and support their Ads team. Can I ask what the next steps are in the process and when perhaps I'll hear some feeback'
    Kind regards
    Jim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,723 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Are you supplying references with your cv ??

    Is it possible that the employer which you “left suddenly” is making this clear when contacted and so making you appear unreliable??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭tringle


    I've worked in tourism/ hospitality. If you don't turn up in a suit and tie I wouldn't give you a job.
    Construction maybe....but anything in a customer service role a suit and tie is needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭tringle


    tringle wrote: »
    I've worked in tourism/ hospitality. If you don't turn up in a suit and tie I wouldn't give you a job.
    Construction maybe....but anything in a customer service role a suit and tie is needed.

    Replying to my own post, a simple rule is what do they wear in that job...and bring it up a notch. They need to see what you would look like in the " uniform" and will you suit their image.
    For females, if that job has a skirt as a uniform then you need to wear a skirt, if they normally have tied up hair then you need to do that. For men a suit...simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Diziet


    If you are getting interviews then your CV gets through, but you need to work on the interview part. Employers are looking for a fit, if they don't see it, then you don't get through.

    I recommend you get this book, read it through and prepare very thoroughly. I have recommended it to loads of people, and every single one got a job offer. No association, of course.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Answers-Tough-Interview-Questions/dp/0749481420/ref=dp_ob_title_bk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Since this is annoying you now, I'd recommend an interview / career coach.
    It may be a bit of money, but they could spot something that the interviewers have picked up on that you are unaware of.

    I knew someone who was highly qualified, great experience and kept getting rejected at interviews.
    They went to an interview coach, and within the first few minutes told her she stares very intensely without blinking!
    This totally put her off and said it may come across as too intense and odd.
    She worked on changing it and got the next interview!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,723 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    You should always wear a suit, first impressions are great , always follow up on the interview with an e mail to say thanks and give them a few points on how you would be suitable for the job , what line of work are you in ? What are your qualifications?

    The “always wear a suit” mantra is old hat.

    When I see someone turn up in a suit when it’s inappropriate I immediately think they’re overcompensating for lack of confidence or ability. I’ve had interviewees so uncomfortable in a suit that I told them to take off the jacket and tie if they were more comfortable as it was unnecessary, they were literally cooking themselves in the damn thing.

    Yes there are certain instances where a suit is applicable for an interview but OP isn’t in tuat realm.

    I’m thinking either op is getting a bad reference or the interview skills aren’t up to scratch.

    Again, no offence intended but perhaps the CV is better than the candidate, it’s a common thing, you read a cv and see a perfect candidate, but what sits down across the desk is a doppelger at best.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Do interview training...simple as...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    You should always wear a suit, first impressions are great , always follow up on the interview with an e mail to say thanks and give them a few points on how you would be suitable for the job , what line of work are you in ? What are your qualifications?

    I agree with the suit, but not sure about the follow up email, I think all the formalities should be done at the interview and at the end for all the thanks etc.

    Sending them an email after to me seems a bit too much like sucking up, everyone has their interview time - use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    OSI wrote: »
    Haven't worn a suit to an interview since I was 18.

    The bit that sticks out to me is:



    Obviously we don't know you OP, but that sets off alarm bells for me as to your attitude towards interviews.

    I agree, that's a really bad attitude to have. What was the issue having to wait for the boss for 20 minutes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    I'll just reply to everyone on this post:


    1. For the recruiter I was wearing a suit and tie, I just really didn't like the recruiters attitude from the get go but that was about 2 years ago so ancient history in my eyes.

    2. After reading your comments I think I'll err on the side of caution and wear a tie from now on (dress for the role you want to be in and all that).

    3. As for referees I've only provided them the twice I've been asked so I don't think that's the issue but I may check into that.

    4. I've started sending follow up emails, I do feel a bit bad especially if theyve to interview a lot of people but if it gets me that step ahead.

    So thanks for the feedback lads and ladies, I've got 3 interviews this week (2 are second round interviews), I'll report back how I get on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Personally I think follow up letters are a waste of your time. I also think they mess with your head. Job applications and interviews are fire and forget. If you get the job they'll contact you. You need to focus 100% on the next interview.

    If you want feedback on your overview technique go do some interview training with a professional company. They video you and analyse it with you as you improve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Assassin saphir


    As someone who recruits I would suggest not to send the follow up email unless it is a very niche position. It can come across as pushy and would put me off in most cases. I've had candidates call me after interviews asking how they got on and if they got the position even if I gave them a date that they would be contacted by. It sometimes can be a red flag as to the type of person you really are.
    One last thing is let your personality shine through. I see loads of wooden candidates who think an interview has to be formal and often put on this persona . I like to see what type of person you are, what your interests and hobbies are. This often tell a recruiter more about a candidate than their cv ever can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    No reply or feedback is just practical for the recruiter, and it's become the norm. Follow up contact from the applicant suggests they struggle to deal with that kind of pragmatism. In my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Volthar


    Hey. If you have exp. working with Amadeus or any other GDS (native mode) Convergys in Santry are hiring for corporate travel roles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    Volthar wrote: »
    Hey. If you have exp. working with Amadeus or any other GDS (native mode) Convergys in Santry are hiring for corporate travel roles.

    Perfect I'll send them on my CV thanks for that.

    If they do an employee referral bonus I can stick your name or email address down if you want ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Volthar


    Fozzydog3 wrote: »
    Perfect I'll send them on my CV thanks for that.

    If they do an employee referral bonus I can stick your name or email address down if you want ?

    Good luck with your application.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Volthar


    Fozzydog3 wrote: »
    Volthar wrote: »
    Hey. If you have exp. working with Amadeus or any other GDS (native mode) Convergys in Santry are hiring for corporate travel roles.

    Perfect I'll send them on my CV thanks for that.

    If they do an employee referral bonus I can stick your name or email address down if you want ?
    Any luck with your application?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    I'm looking to change jobs myself OP and it's happened to me. I've had two interviews over the past few months from which I've failed to get any feedback. Both companies were Irish. The respective roles had three and four interview rounds, so I was in touch with both organisations for well over a month. Not sure how a simple, courteous email to an interviewee who has attended that number of interview rounds could become an issue. I turned down two roles (different organisations) in the same time frame. Both organisations seemed to think I was duty bound to partake in a conference call to explain my decision to them. On refusing to partake in the call, a manager from one of the organisations took it upon himself to try and contact me via his home landline late one evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    Well I got two job offers this week ! And waiting back from another place that seems promising.

    Berserker: I know how annoying that feels especially if you put everything into your cover letter, but best of luck ! If potential employers are calling you off their home phone you must be doing something right (but it does sound strange).

    Volthair i didnt apply for that if Im honest, it sounded too similiar to my previous role (turning down job openings the boom is back baby.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Volthar


    Glad you finally are getting job offers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Just want to add an extra query to this thread. One of the organisations I interviewed with came back to me with positive feedback last Tuesday morning and they asked me to provide them with the details of my references. They did not and have not offered me the role. I sent them over the details of my references and alerted my referees. They did not acknowledge receipt of the referees and they have not contacted any of the references as of c.o.b. today. Just wondering what people make of this? Given that they have asked for references, I would expect to hear back from them, even if the role has passed me by. If not how best should I proceed with this. I don't want to leave my referees hanging and risk damaging the good relationships that I have with them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 southernsmile


    It sounds like you are doing just about everything right which I know has to be frustrating when you do not get the job.  Do you practice answering common job interview questions (example: "Why should we hire you?" or "What is your greatest strength?")?  If you do not, it might be a good idea to research and formulate answers to these questions.  However, make sure they do not sound to rehearsed.  You want it to sound as natural as possible.  It is normal to get nervous but you can counter this by smiling and maybe even throwing in a joke about the dive you took to get to the interview, getting off on the wrong floor of the elevator, or something to lighten the mood.  The interviewers might be picking up on the fact that you are nervous but if you throw in some humor, it will help them as well as you relax.  Lastly, practice your interviews with a friend and get honest feedback from them on how you did.  This will probably help the most because you can learn what is working and what is not.


  • Site Banned Posts: 20 Muff Richardson II


    always follow up on the interview with an e mail to say thanks and give them a few points on how you would be suitable for the job ,

    possibly the worst piece of advice I've ever heard for job application/interview techniques. Underhanded brown nosing one upmanship, exactly what nobody wants to work with. Instant disqualification no matter how well the interview went.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    possibly the worst piece of advice I've ever heard for job application/interview techniques. Underhanded brown nosing one upmanship, exactly what nobody wants to work with. Instant disqualification no matter how well the interview went.

    I done this for the role I'm currently in, I guess interviewing is like dating there's not many steadfast rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    possibly the worst piece of advice I've ever heard for job application/interview techniques. Underhanded brown nosing one upmanship, exactly what nobody wants to work with. Instant disqualification no matter how well the interview went.

    Depends on the nature of the organisation. American firms love that kind of thing.


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