15k relatively quick/fun car

Mickiemcfist · 05-03-2018 9:19pm #1

Hi all,

I've got about 15k to spend on a car to keep for about a year, I only drive on weekends so fuel economy isn't an issue, tax would ideally be sub 1k but not a deal-breaker. I'm looking for a 4 door, reliable, ideally petrol, fast & comfortable car which will be easy enough to trade in in 12 months. What would you get? I'm stumped.

I just happened to drive an f10 520d sport (manual) recently, loved everything but the engine, my god it was just asthmatic. Hoping for 200bhp+

Very vague I know, but any suggestions greatly appreciated!

bazz26 · 05-03-2018 9:27pm

Why would you spend 15k on a car you only plan to keep for a year?

Mickiemcfist · 05-03-2018 9:31pm

bazz26 wrote: »

Why would you spend 15k on a car you only plan to keep for a year?

That's the limit of what I can spend?

bazz26 · 05-03-2018 9:35pm

My point is that spending that much means you have more to lose over 12 months in depreciation than say spending half that figure. Plenty of Mk5 Golf GTis for sale for around 6/7k.

Heres Johnny · 05-03-2018 9:36pm

It's hardly asthmatic now to be honest. If you want more power then get a 530

Mickiemcfist · 05-03-2018 9:41pm

bazz26 wrote: »

My point is that spending that much means you have more to lose over 12 months in depreciation than say spending half that figure. Plenty of Mk5 Golf GTis for sale for around 6/7k.

Oh right sorry yea, I've had a mk5 GTi & loved it but was just hoping for a big saloon next. Personal preference really. I go through phases of wanting a nice car then saying feck this & buying a bangernomic for a year then buying a nice one again. The longest I've kept any car was 2 years which was the GTi, but typically change annually. Currently driving an E46 325ci sport I picked up for 800 quid 8 months ago, great car but just looking for something a bit newer & bigger this time & hoping to get an M car after that.

Mickiemcfist · 05-03-2018 9:43pm

Heres Johnny wrote: »

It's hardly asthmatic now to be honest. If you want more power then get a 530

I've read it could actually be the manual/520 combo that made it feel that way, 530s are hard to find with that budget & not intergalactic mileage. Cheers though

bazz26 · 05-03-2018 10:03pm

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Oh right sorry yea, I've had a mk5 GTi & loved it but was just hoping for a big saloon next. Personal preference really. I go through phases of wanting a nice car then saying feck this & buying a bangernomic for a year then buying a nice one again. The longest I've kept any car was 2 years which was the GTi, but typically change annually. Currently driving an E46 325ci sport I picked up for 800 quid 8 months ago, great car but just looking for something a bit newer & bigger this time & hoping to get an M car after that.

I hear what your saying but big petrol and saloons suffer huge depreciation so it's very unlikely that you not lose a good bit of what you paid on it in 12 months time. Most will probably command 1k+ motor tax also.

A 2008 Lexus GS450H for example would have blistering straight line speed, cost 1200 to tax but would not be known to be fun, could also be hard to shift in 12 months time too.

Mickiemcfist · 05-03-2018 10:10pm

bazz26 wrote: »

I hear what your saying but big petrol and saloons suffer huge depreciation so it's very unlikely that you not lose a good bit of what you paid on it in 12 months time. Most will probably command 1k+ motor tax also.

A 2008 Lexus GS450H for example would have blistering straight line speed, cost 1200 to tax but would not be known to be fun, could also be hard to shift in 12 months time too.

Yea true. Also true that a GS is not fun. May just try hold out for a f10 530d as they're pretty easy to move on & would have a good bit of power so cover most bases. not fun per se, but nice to drive. Presumably, I've only driven the E60 530.

I was hoping there was an obvious car I hadn't thought of!

Glen_Quagmire · 05-03-2018 10:21pm

What about an Octavia VRS?

Mickiemcfist · 05-03-2018 10:49pm

Glen_Quagmire wrote: »

What about an Octavia VRS?

Cheers, had considered it but it's the same as the GTi so was hoping for something a bit bigger.

Gorgeousgeorge · 05-03-2018 11:23pm

Id be buying a 1jz chaser or rb25 laurel. Absolute wagon. 4 door. Wont drop in price. As quick as you would want. Tax is in your area.

Mickiemcfist · 05-03-2018 11:44pm

Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »

Id be buying a 1jz chaser or rb25 laurel. Absolute wagon. 4 door. Wont drop in price. As quick as you would want. Tax is in your area.

Cheers, yea on paper they're pretty much exactly what I want. But I'm just not really into the modified/jap look, plus would probably be a pain trading one in.

Foxhole Norman · 05-03-2018 11:51pm

€15k should get you a decent E39 M5. 4 Door, 6 Speed Manual, 400hp 5.0 V8, what's not to like

Not only that but they're appreciating mad the last year, a worthwhile investment as you're not likely to lose much if you go to sell in a year.

Mickiemcfist · 06-03-2018 12:04am

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

€15k should get you a decent E39 M5. 4 Door, 6 Speed Manual, 400hp 5.0 V8, what's not to like Not only that but they're appreciating mad the last year, a worthwhile investment as you're not likely to lose much if you go to sell in a year.

If I could find one for that I'd go for it, can't see any though, even in the UK. Think they've already gone out of reach!

Foxhole Norman · 06-03-2018 12:16am

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

If I could find one for that I'd go for it, can't see any though, even in the UK. Think they've already gone out of reach!

That's the current issue with them, you can buy cheaper ones in the UK but have about 10k lined up for them!

Sexual Chocolate · 06-03-2018 1:13am

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Cheers, yea on paper they're pretty much exactly what I want. But I'm just not really into the modified/jap look, plus would probably be a pain trading one in.

Would you consider buying in the UK ?

Accord euro r ? Some of them aren't too far off looking like ordinary Accords if you avoid white.

Mk4 Mondeo 2.0 ecoboost or a 2.5t 5 cylinder ? The 2.5 can be easily tuned to over 260 bhp. Some of the Titanium models look really well.

Or a Mazda 6 mps ?

All of these could definitely be got while leaving a good bit of change in your pocket. Only thing is that they won't be the easiest to sell on.

chicorytip · 08-03-2018 12:30pm

Mickiemcfist wrote:

I've got about 15k to spend on a car to keep for about a year, I only drive on weekends so fuel economy isn't an issue, tax would ideally be sub 1k but not a deal-breaker. I'm looking for a 4 door, reliable, ideally petrol, fast & comfortable car which will be easy enough to trade in in 12 months. What would you get? I'm stumped.

Mickiemcfist wrote:

Hi all,

Mickiemcfist wrote:

I just happened to drive an f10 520d sport (manual) recently, loved everything but the engine, my god it was just asthmatic. Hoping for 200bhp+

Mickiemcfist wrote:

Very vague I know, but any suggestions greatly appreciated!

Nissan Juke 1.2 petrol 2015-.

bazz26 · 08-03-2018 1:24pm

chicorytip wrote: »

Nissan Juke 1.2 petrol 2015-.

MetzgerMeister · 08-03-2018 2:34pm

I know you said 5 door but this SEAT Ibiza Cupra might be of interest to you:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2016-seat-ibiza-cupra-1-8-tsi-192bhp-warranty/17804549

Trojan · 08-03-2018 3:27pm

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

€15k should get you a decent E39 M5. 4 Door, 6 Speed Manual, 400hp 5.0 V8, what's not to like Not only that but they're appreciating mad the last year, a worthwhile investment as you're not likely to lose much if you go to sell in a year.

+1

And if you wanted something a bit more modern than the E39, you could get a 500bhp E60 M5 for around €15k too.

08-03-2018 3:31pm

Trojan wrote: »

+1

And if you wanted something a bit more modern than the E39, you could get a 500bhp E60 M5 for around €15k too.

arent't they known for being a money pit?

Trojan · 08-03-2018 3:33pm

glasso wrote: »

arent't they known for being a money pit?

Absolutely. But I think that's probably not really an issue for the OP here, based on his posts.

Mickiemcfist · 08-03-2018 3:35pm

Trojan wrote: »

+1

And if you wanted something a bit more modern than the E39, you could get a 500bhp E60 M5 for around €15k too.

I can't see any e39s or e60s for sub 15k, certainly with the E60 I'd also need a 15k "just in case" fund!

passatman86 · 08-03-2018 3:36pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008honda-civic-fd2-type-r/18139983

Trojan · 08-03-2018 3:41pm

There's several on PistonHead site for around that money. But yeah if €15k is a hard limit then E39 all the way. Arguably a better drive too, but I haven't driven an M5 version of either of them so just going on what I've heard from others.

MetzgerMeister · 08-03-2018 3:41pm

passatman86 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008honda-civic-fd2-type-r/18139983

That should be on the dreamers thread, it's WAY overpriced considering it's a 10 year old Jap import and will cost considerable money to insure.

Heres Johnny · 08-03-2018 3:54pm

Love the way a thread looking for a relatively quick and fun car on a modest budget threw up e39 and e60 m5 as suggestions.
Gotta love the motor forum......but go for it OP I'd love to see a few more m5 knocking around.

Some day I'll own one!

selectamatic · 08-03-2018 4:00pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

That should be on the dreamers thread, it's WAY overpriced considering it's a 10 year old Jap import and will cost considerable money to insure.

Na that's kinda the money they make. The year and the fact it's an import are irrelevant ditto insurance costs.

To a Honda man the often touted last true type R is very high on their wishlist.

I wouldn't pay it but plenty do and will continue to do so.

MetzgerMeister · 08-03-2018 4:01pm

selectamatic wrote: »

Na that's kinda the money they make. The year and the fact it's an import are irrelevant ditto insurance costs.

To a Honda man the often touted last true type R is very high on their wishlist.

I wouldn't pay it but plenty do and will continue to do so.

Point taken! I'm not a HondaHead at all. Love my Bimmers but if anything Jap, I'd be a MazdaMan

Mickiemcfist · 08-03-2018 5:40pm

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Love the way a thread looking for a relatively quick and fun car on a modest budget threw up e39 and e60 m5 as suggestions.
Gotta love the motor forum......but go for it OP I'd love to see a few more m5 knocking around.

Some day I'll own one!

Yea to be honest I'm hoping to get the E39 M5 in 2019 or so, I just don't want to get the cheapest high mileage one now, as it'll kill me to keep on the road & I'll end up hating it.

08-03-2018 6:34pm

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Yea to be honest I'm hoping to get the E39 M5 in 2019 or so, I just don't want to get the cheapest high mileage one now, as it'll kill me to keep on the road & I'll end up hating it.

the price of the e39 m5 is going up.

a half decent one is 15 to 20 grand sterling at the moment in the UK

California Dreamer · 08-03-2018 6:37pm

Something to keep for a year. Its fun and fast!!

AND its €3000

http://www.unbeatablebmws.ie/vehicles/bmw/325/dublin/1868453

Mickiemcfist · 08-03-2018 7:00pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

Something to keep for a year. Its fun and fast!!

AND its €3000

http://www.unbeatablebmws.ie/vehicles/bmw/325/dublin/1868453

Thanks, I currently have a manual 325, an auto SE would be less fun!

08-03-2018 7:29pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-3-2-8-v6-turbo-x-4wd/18016506

Saab v6 turbo x.

there's a leftfield one for you

or bring one in from the uk for a lot cheaper

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/saab/9-3/saab-9-3-2-8-aero/8399931

edit. actually the one in the uk is not a turbo x, just normal aero. same 2.8 v6 though. the turbo x is more collectible. few more on autotrader uk.

Mickiemcfist · 08-03-2018 7:38pm

glasso wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-3-2-8-v6-turbo-x-4wd/18016506

Saab v6 turbo x.

there's a leftfield one for you

or bring one in from the uk for a lot cheaper

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/saab/9-3/saab-9-3-2-8-aero/8399931

That is cool! Interesting!

08-03-2018 7:47pm

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

That is cool! Interesting!

very rare car. pretty cool imo too. have never been in one.

JohnBoy26 · 08-03-2018 8:37pm

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Would you consider buying in the UK ?

Accord euro r ? Some of them aren't too far off looking like ordinary Accords if you avoid white.

Mk4 Mondeo 2.0 ecoboost or a 2.5t 5 cylinder ? The 2.5 can be easily tuned to over 260 bhp. Some of the Titanium models look really well.

Or a Mazda 6 mps ?

All of these could definitely be got while leaving a good bit of change in your pocket. Only thing is that they won't be the easiest to sell on.

Rust buckets.

um7y1h83ge06nx · 08-03-2018 8:46pm

Holden HSV? Little above budget but might be more on Dondeal.

https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Holden/HSV-Very-Rare---Holden-Commodore-Sv6-VE-Series-II/2311522147484577418

Just seen that the tax is comical though.

Audi RS6? 450bhp in a 4.2 V8 twin turbo quattro package

https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Audi/RS6-QUATTRO-4.2-V8-TWIN-TURBO-450BHP...ORIGINAL-IRISH-CAR-WITH-A-FULL-SERVICE-HISTORY.../8823025597264579407

MetzgerMeister · 09-03-2018 10:16am

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Rust buckets.

How so?

The one I owned is still going strong and is now owned by a user on here.

Idbatterim · 09-03-2018 10:23am

If you want an m car, why don’t you buy an m car. Or wait till you have the money? Buying something now for e15 k that will be worth 10k next year, makes no sense!

Unless it is like an e46 m3 or e39 m5, that will probably at least hold their value, if not appreciate

JohnBoy26 · 09-03-2018 11:18am

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

How so?

The one I owned is still going strong and is now owned by a user on here.

The 6 are well known to be very susceptible to rust underneath, and not just light rust, heavy nasty rust. It's been a problem with mazda for years, not just the 6. They are shockingly bad.

Arches and sills rust too on them. Whatever metal they are made from seems to be very poor quality.

I think finding a rust free example in the uk will be very difficult and even in this country where you still see lots of rust on the underside of mazdas.

NoBread · 09-03-2018 11:45am

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Thanks, I currently have a manual 325, an auto SE would be less fun!

To be fair though, an F10 is going to be a LOT less fun. The E46 is a very good car, the 6 cylinders are fun. You're not going to better it by restricting yourself to 4 doors and 15k. You'll get different alright, but almost everything bar a hot hatch will be less fun or a money pit.

LG1234 · 13-03-2018 11:51pm

Surprised nobody suggested a a 335i or 335d

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-335i-auto-sat-nav-heated-seats-new-turbos/17569981

Or a mk6 GTI

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mk6-golf-gti-tsi-210-bhp/18191529

Glen_Quagmire · 14-03-2018 8:07am

LG1234 wrote:

Surprised nobody suggested a a 335i or 335d

LG1234 wrote:

Or a mk6 GTI

The OP is looking for a 4 door saloon

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JohnBoy26 · 14-03-2018 9:05am

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They all rust the same. They are built in the same factory and use the same bodyshell made with the same steel.

aaakev · 14-03-2018 9:12am

Nice, big, sturdy, powerful, saloon. Should be bought for not much over a third of your budget and more fun than a bmw!

Only thing is its jap which you said you werent after... few automatics up too if you wanted to go that way. Bang for your buckthese are hard to beat

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-legacy-2-0gt-b4-280bhp-4wd/16784333

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Cee-Jay-Cee · 14-03-2018 9:18am

aaakev wrote: »

Nice, big, sturdy, powerful, saloon. Should be bought for not much over a third of your budget and more fun than a bmw!

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-legacy-2-0gt-b4-280bhp-4wd/16784333

I was going to suggest the Legacy B4/GT also as there are quite a few really nice examples for sale at the moment. They're a fantastic car and the 280hp boxer engine is so sweet.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-legacy-b4-gt-spec-b/17897716

This would be my pick:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-legacy-2-0gt-b4-280bhp-4wd/16784333

15k relatively quick/fun car

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