The beginning of the end ofTelevision license

Riva10

Just maybe it will happen here. The end of subsidised Donnybrook. :eek:

Swiss vote on public TV fees watched elsewhere in Europe

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on that.

silverharp

I wonder when they came up with the tv licence did they envisage that the fee would be used to make tv shows about old biddies dancing

Permabear

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dxhound2005

The Swiss (men) voted only a few years ago to let the Swiss women have the vote. They are a funny lot.

kneemos

Without a license fee we end up TV3. Not saying RTE is great,but it's considerably better than its Irish rivals,though I never watch any of them.

There's also a proven theory that having a national broadcaster raises the level of national debate.

Idbatterim

It should absolutely be abolished. Sink or swim. Rte knows that hand that feeds them. Appalling at holding our failed local and national government to account. Let them live on advertising and sponsorship or creating good programming! Outrageous pay, pensions etc.

the dark phantom

I dont know what a tracker mortgage tv license is.

dxhound2005

the dark phantom wrote: »

I dont know what a tracker mortgage tv license is.

This will enlighten you.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055794011

satguy

RTE should just be, one 24 hour News Channel. Like BBC News 24.
Plus One Radio Station.

Licence Fee = €3 per month if working, Option for stopped with tax from weekly wage, or pay at PO
And .. €2 per month if on SW (not DIS or OAP) .. and stopped at 50c per week from SW payments.

Even if no TV is present.

All jobs in RTE must advertised in news papers and on TV after the main evening news, and not just given to sons and daughters of RTE employees.

donegaLroad

I know a man in the Gaeltacht who wrote to RTE complaining that their program schedule is almost entirely in English, and as an Irish speaker, he felt that this was not satisfactory and that he shouldn't have to pay for a licence. He got a letter back from RTE to say that he was exempt.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

kneemos wrote: »

Without a license fee we end up TV3. Not saying RTE is great,but it's considerably better than its Irish rivals,though I never watch any of them.

There's also a proven theory that having a national broadcaster raises the level of national debate.

You should really get a skybox. Or something a least capable of picking up the British channels.

kneemos

satguy wrote: »

RTE should just be, one 24 hour News Channel. Like BBC News 24.
Plus One Radio Station.

Licence Fee = €3 per month if working, Option for stopped with tax from weekly wage, or pay at PO
And .. €2 per month if on SW (not DIS or OAP) .. and stopped at 50c per week from SW payments.

Even if no TV is present.

All jobs in RTE must advertised in news papers and on TV after the main evening news, and not just given to sons and daughters of RTE employees.

The nepotism should have been the subject of a public inquiry years ago.
I guess any given Government wants to keep them sweet.
o.

dxhound2005

kneemos wrote: »

The nepotism should have been the subject of a public inquiry years ago.
I guess any given Government wants to keep them sweet.
o.

If they wanted to keep them sweet they would have given them an increase in the licence fee long ago. It has remained the same price for ten years now.

darlett

kneemos wrote: »

The nepotism should have been the subject of a public inquiry years ago.
I guess any given Government wants to keep them sweet.
o.

It's rare that Government (and politicians in general) have any moral authority with regards to ye old nepotism.

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ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

donegaLroad wrote: »

I know a man in the Gaeltacht who wrote to RTE complaining that their program schedule is almost entirely in English, and as an Irish speaker, he felt that this was not satisfactory and that he shouldn't have to pay for a licence. He got a letter back from RTE to say that he was exempt.

That story doesn't hold water at all. Was he entitled to a free licence by age? The licence applies regardless of what channels you watch and funds TG4 as well.

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Ralf and Florian

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvF4Oqxp9OM

Barry Badrinath

How am I going to watch Fair City if you bastards dont pay the licence fee?

You better pay fcukers!

Stephen15

donegaLroad wrote: »

I know a man in the Gaeltacht who wrote to RTE complaining that their program schedule is almost entirely in English, and as an Irish speaker, he felt that this was not satisfactory and that he shouldn't have to pay for a licence. He got a letter back from RTE to say that he was exempt.

TG4 is RTE more or less and paid for by our tv licence.

Varik

Mr.S wrote: »

If we get away with the TV License fee, would the public not just pay via general taxation anyway?

Or just not pay any public monies at all and let them sink or swim.

Arthur Daley

Marian Finucane and Joe Duffy might have to work something approaching a 35 hour week, for a salary higher than the Taoiseach, or most likely they will enjoy a long overdue retirement.

Fanny Wank

donegaLroad wrote: »

I know a man in the Gaeltacht who wrote to RTE complaining that their program schedule is almost entirely in English, and as an Irish speaker, he felt that this was not satisfactory and that he shouldn't have to pay for a licence. He got a letter back from RTE to say that he was exempt.

Filed away under "things that never happened"

Baron Kurtz

kneemos wrote: »

Without a license fee we end up TV3. Not saying RTE is great,but it's considerably better than its Irish rivals,though I never watch any of them.

There's also a proven theory that having a national broadcaster raises the level of national debate.

We don't. There's IPTV. With a reliable BB connection over 5mb you can watch what you want. The outlay will be a tenner a month to refine exactly what you want depending on provider.

Riva10

silverharp wrote: »

I wonder when they came up with the tv licence did they envisage that the fee would be used to make tv shows about old biddies dancing

Or a fat pension for Uncle Gaybo and his Moth. :pac:

jca

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That was quick.

TheQuietFella

kneemos wrote: »

Without a license fee we end up TV3. Not saying RTE is great,but it's considerably better than its Irish rivals,though I never watch any of them.

There's also a proven theory that having a national broadcaster raises the level of national debate.

TV3 is an extension of English TV channels! It's as bad as any of them!

TV broadcasters are just another device to dumb down an entire generation of

people and to fill them with party propaganda, the correct way to think or vote!

TV licence fee should be abolished, it's an outdated method of fund-raising in the modern world where entertainment media can be obtained from many sources from around the globe.
It should just be an element of general taxation, as such it would be far more efficient in its collection as the current system is expensive to manage and has a high rate of evasion that is very expensive to police.

Discodog

If RTE is as good as people say it is then make it a subscription service. Pay for what you watch not for what you don't.

Varik

Deleted User wrote: »

TV licence fee should be abolished, it's an outdated method of fund-raising in the modern world where entertainment media can be obtained from many sources from around the globe.
It should just be an element of general taxation, as such it would be far more efficient in its collection as the current system is expensive to manage and has a high rate of evasion that is very expensive to police.

Just like RTE in general then.

Why should any public money be used to prop them up.

Discodog wrote: »

If RTE is as good as people say it is then make it a subscription service. Pay for what you watch not for what you don't.

It'd be costly in implement that, you'd need compatible set top boxes for over the air or people would need decent internet. Would also be rather sad for RTE when they realised people aren't even bothered to pirate their stuff.

Fully ad funded is far better.

Varik

Varik wrote: »

Just like RTE in general then.

Why should any public money be used to prop them up.



It'd be costly in implement that, you'd need compatible set top boxes for over the air or people would need decent internet. Would also be rather sad for RTE when they realised people aren't even bothered to pirate their stuff.

Fully ad funded is far better.

Who would be the first to complain when there is no "Irish content" on the television?
Those that didn't want to fund a national broadcaster???

OneEightSeven

If Irish people think they're being fleeced by paying a TV license, the Swiss have to pay €439

I'm surprised Vizio aren't selling their tunerless TV in Europe, they'd make a bomb if they marketed them as being exempt from TV licenses.

Discodog

OneEightSeven wrote: »

If Irish people think they're being fleeced by paying a TV license, the Swiss have to pay €439

I'm surprised Vizio aren't selling their tunerless TV in Europe, they'd make a bomb if they marketed them as being exempt from TV licenses.

They aren't because you will still need a sky box or a cable box. The only way to avoid the license legally is a large monitor linked to a computer.

OneEightSeven

OneEightSeven wrote: »

If Irish people think they're being fleeced by paying a TV license, the Swiss have to pay €439

I'm surprised Vizio aren't selling their tunerless TV in Europe, they'd make a bomb if they marketed them as being exempt from TV licenses.

Interesting looking at that link as it states that a significant number of countries have abolished it in recent years.

So there is definitely a trend in it being abolished.

blue note

I've two things to say on the tv licence

1. I'm in favour of it, but they need to review how they spend it. Is there really any need for rte to buy in movies and foreign t.v. shows? We can get them easily elsewhere. If they're making a profit from them fair enough, but if it's costing rte (and therefore me) money to show tv shows that i can get on BBC/ tv3 / wherever they should cut them. What I am interested in is news and current affairs programs and sports. And some irish made tv shows (first dates, winning streak, love hate, damo and ivor, whatever). But them having the licence to guarantee they canndo this is a good thing for me.

2. They need to review how it's collected. I hear they inspect a ridiculous number of homes each week (several thousand. All I can think is what's the cost of that and how effective is it? It should really be done through page.

Mrs OBumble

kneemos wrote: »

Without a license fee we end up TV3. Not saying RTE is great,but it's considerably better than its Irish rivals,though I never watch any of them.

There's also a proven theory that having a national broadcaster raises the level of national debate.

New Zealand incorporated the Tv license into general taxation roughtly 25 years ago. Their TV1 and TV2 were still going last time I looked.

Atlantic Dawn

The current RTE should resemble the BBC, they should not be allowed have adverts and on top of that sponsorship of pretty much every single live radio and tv show to cater for massively overpaid staff contractors.

Discodog

There is this wrong belief that only state funded television offers good journalism & original content. Both ITV & Channel 4 produce quality documentations, news & drama. Channel 4 especially have a reputation for stirring the pot where the BBC fear to go.

Commercial doesn't equal bad quality.

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Arthur Daley

Some of my annoyance with RTE is actually just a relection of the society we live in. I couldn't avoid an ad for 'stetsons and stilletos' during the snow. It sent a chill through me. It was a firm reminder why I must live within Dublin's boundaries.

Their 'dancing with the stars' thrash is another example. But tv3 have all this crap and more and itv has long since gone to the dogs. They will claim it is what the public want.

Cee-Jay-Cee

donegaLroad wrote: »

I know a man in the Gaeltacht who wrote to RTE complaining that their program schedule is almost entirely in English, and as an Irish speaker, he felt that this was not satisfactory and that he shouldn't have to pay for a licence. He got a letter back from RTE to say that he was exempt.

Rubbish. RTE do not collect the fee nor do they have the power to exempt anyone from paying. RTE we’re treating him with the same ignorance he showed them, the fee is collected by An Post and the government determine the fee amount so writing to RTE to complain about having to pay the licence fee is like complaining to your local hospital about the cost of health insurance being charged by VHI.

satguy

RTE listings for Sunday 4th March

09:05 (Repeat) Casualty
10:10 (Repeat) Keeping Up Appearances
10:40 Today Show Bites
11:10 Mass Service
12:00 The Week in Politics
13:00 RTÉ News: One O'Clock
13:10 (Repeat) Ear to the Ground
13:40 (Repeat) Winning Streak
14:40 (Repeat) Home of the Year
15:10 (Repeat) Senior Moments

The Repeats just keep coming .. SEE

Do really think we should be paying for this Rubbish.

Riva10

Riva10 wrote: »

Just maybe it will happen here. The end of subsidised Donnybrook. :eek:

Swiss vote on public TV fees watched elsewhere in Europe

Your mistaking us for a progressive democracy ran by reasonable people and not some Gestapo like nanny state ran by shysters and connivers. Too many fat pigs with their noses in the trough have alot to lose by something like this going to referendum.

donegaLroad

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Rubbish. RTE do not collect the fee nor do they have the power to exempt anyone from paying. RTE we’re treating him with the same ignorance he showed them, the fee is collected by An Post and the government determine the fee amount so writing to RTE to complain about having to pay the licence fee is like complaining to your local hospital about the cost of health insurance being charged by VHI.

I will see if I can get a copy of the letter. If I do, I will post it here.

Markgc

I was wondering about rights; right to a roof over one's head or right to have a home.
If it was a right, wouldn't the mandatory t.v. license payment for every household impinge upon that right?
Although the right to adequate housing is about the right to live somewhere in security, peace and dignity. Unlike in some other European countries, there is currently no right to housing in Ireland’s Constitution or in law.

Lord Glentoran

God knows RTÉ can be a right pain in the arse but its absence would be filled by TV3. No thanks.

Just as well I can get Freesat.

Chrongen

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Can you justify a license fee?

Break it down in a cogent and logical argument rather than the usual "Sure if we all didn't pay, Da counthry would be even more ruined dan it is"

Lord Glentoran

Lord Glentoran wrote: »

God knows RTÉ can be a right pain in the arse but its absence would be filled by TV3. No thanks.

Just as well I can get Freesat.

No way on earth should the culture of jobs for life continue at that channel. It should be privatised. If there was a march on Dail Eireann to privatise this channel and take the burden off the taxpayer i would attend. I dont care what they show as long as it doesnt cost the taxpayer. The late late show for one example is a disgrace. As for the political debates that are meant to be 'regulated', we've all seen them for what they are this week with Claire Byrne. Miriam is also a shambles

dublinman1990

RTÉ is not even covered by a process of a referendum under the constitution to maintain or get rid of it's public service broadcasting status.

All it could need is a vote from TDs & Senators to get rid of RTÉ or maintain it with strict conditions to reform it's remit & funding.

RTÉ could be proposed to be only funded by the TV Licence or from the proposed broadcasting charge being paid to Revenue Commissioners.

TG4's remit could be reformed like Channel 4 in the UK to be maintained only with ringfenced ad revenue to run it's programmes in Irish.

The BAI Sound & Vision fund would be required to give 10% funding of programmes to all broadcasters here including TV3 & Eir Sport.

Chrongen

Can anyone justify why people ought to pay money to receive broadcasts?

And if you are adamant in your demands then can you explain why.