Snowmagedagain

Colser

Fann Linn wrote: »

Not in our place. Only those who booked A/L prior to the red warning will have the leave taken from them.

I booked a/l for Thursday for an event that was cancelled anyway due to the weather,work was closed on the day and they are paying for it,is it fair to take the a/l from you when work was closed anyway?

erica74

Fann Linn wrote: »

Not in our place. Only those who booked A/L prior to the red warning will have the leave taken from them.

Same here, anyone who was on AL on Thursday or Friday are losing those days.

weldoninhio

Conspectus wrote: »

Probably at home staying out of trouble. In fairness would you go out and tackle them without a large mob behind you.

But if the scum are a tiny minority it should follow that the decent people have a vast majority I.e a much larger mob.

dan1895

Colser wrote: »

I booked a/l for Thursday for an event that was cancelled anyway due to the weather,work was closed on the day and they are paying for it,is it fair to take the a/l from you when work was closed anyway?

Yes. You booked the time off, you got the time off. What happened to others is irrelevant.
I'd pissed off with the timing of it happened to myself though.

erica74

Ajsoprano wrote: »

We are getting paid boss asked for 6 hours overtime over next two weeks to cover it. We agreed. Everyone happy all round.

See, that's a very reasonable approach by your employer. They get something back while also giving the employees something and everyone is happy.

I think this discussion is good, maybe an employer will read the approach Ajsoprano's employer took and go that way.

RiseToMe

I'm an employer, the weather was flagged well in advance so we worked on the basis that the laboratory was likely to be closed from Wednesday to Friday. We were indeed closed, so everybody was off, with full pay and no effect on annual leave. Bar one staff member who had Friday as an annual leave day and he will get that added back to his leave, as that's only fair.

koumi

Patty O Furniture wrote: »

Did ya win enough for a snowplough?

got enough to pay off a few bills, which due to not being able to lodge money over the last week incurred unpaid fees I got a text from BOI on Friday stating they would refund anyone who incurred fees due to unpaid direct debits or standing orders but as of today BOI owes me 26 euro so it was handy win really.

I never thought I'd say it but I'm actually biscuited out today.

Steve F

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Keelin Shanley.

Has she not got a funny mouth though?

Cantona's Collars

RiseToMe wrote: »

I'm an employer, the weather was flagged well in advance so we worked on the basis that the laboratory was likely to be closed from Wednesday to Friday. We were indeed closed, so everybody was off, with full pay and no effect on annual leave. Bar one staff member who had Friday as an annual leave day and he will get that added back to his leave, as that's only fair.

If I could thank this twice,I would. Fair play.

iamwhoiam

weldoninhio wrote: »

But if the scum are a tiny minority it should follow that the decent people have a vast majority I.e a much larger mob.

Well lets think about this .The vast majority are made up of families with kids, senior citizens , young women , young men and some elderly and some disabled .So a feral mob is out looting and you expect the vast majority to all rise up together in unison to tackle them ? This is a huge sprawling area and so very unlikely that all could see what was going on . Think rationally about your own area and how it would work .Does one man rise up and rally everyone shouting and calling to join him in his " majority mob " Or is it a call to arms via text or whatsapp ? Its is not a little village where everyone would see and be aware it a large estate with many houses .I laugh when I read this lofty notion that somehow the "majority " should somehow stop this feral gang .? Do you think they were all standing somewhere ready to bear arms at a bugle call .Some were minding kids or in the shower or cooking dinner or watching TV , much like the rest of the country at the time . How on earth were they suddenly to form " a majority mob " out of the blue on a Friday evening .They are just ordinary people like you and I .

Snickers Man

_Dara_ wrote: »

But one thing I took from working there is that many people hate Tesco. I mean, really hate it. And will often treat the staff quite shabbily and with barely-concealed contempt because of that. Fun times!

Well as originally stated, I draw a firm distinction between distaste for an organisation and discourtesy to the people on the shop floor. They don't make the policy; they just have to endure its effects.

Good manners cost nothing.

pilly

Just from the employers side of things, we have decided to pay our employees even though the place was open on Thursday and capable of opening Friday so I put through 40 hours for everyone and I have lads coming in asking for their overtime for the hours they worked extra Mon-Wed.

It makes you wonder at the greed of some and would discourage me from paying it in the future.

Hector Savage

Whats left lads ?
Just a load of oul slushy brown ****e ?

gozunda

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Got a message at 10.30 am on Thursday morning that my workplace was closed,got a circular yesterday saying that we would be paid for the 2 days. Grand or so you might think,but no....we have to work in the time or forfeit the payment for the 2 days.
They say that ibec are telling them they aren't obliged to pay us but reading 2 employment law experts take on it,we are to be paid as our work closed and everyone was available for work on Thursday morning.

That's typical IBEC talk imo. They do more harm to employer - employee relations than a ton of fresh sprayed slurry. If you are in a union or know someone who is - go get some independent advice. Best of luck

_Dara_

Snickers Man wrote: »

Well as originally stated, I draw a firm distinction between distaste for an organisation and discourtesy to the people on the shop floor. They don't make the policy; they just have to endure its effects.

Good manners cost nothing.

The mad thing is that many of people who'd be bitching about Tesco (there would seriously be people loudly complaining about them in the queue) would be holding car keys. I'd be thinking to myself "Why don't they go elsewhere then? We're in Dublin where there's plenty of choice!"

Cantona's Collars

gozunda wrote: »

That's typical IBEC talk imo. They do more harm to employer - employee relations than a ton of fresh sprayed slurry. If you are in a union or know someone who is - go get some independent advice. Best of luck

"However, where an employer makes the decision to close its premises as a consequence of severe adverse weather, employees should not be penalised for their non-attendance at the workplace and should be paid regardless of their absence. Any non-payment in such circumstances could give rise to a claim for breach of contract or unlawful deduction of wages – not to mention employee disgruntlement and possible industrial relations issues."

https://www.algoodbody.com/insights-publications/taming-the-beast-from-the-east-what-irish-employers-need-to-know

muppetshow1451

They are probably laughing there arse of in Norway,Canada and Russia at the moment.

_Dara_

muppetshow1451 wrote: »

They are probably laughing there arse of in Norway,Canada and Russia at the moment.

What an original point. How did you come up with that?

muppetshow1451

_Dara_ wrote: »

What an original point. How did you come up with that?

Maybe because i am still laughing,did i hit your irish pride.
Yawn

erica74

muppetshow1451 wrote: »

They are probably laughing there arse of in Norway,Canada and Russia at the moment.

I'd say they are probably just living their lives and don't really care about our weather, the same way we don't really care about their weather.

_Dara_

muppetshow1451 wrote: »

Maybe because i am still laughing,did i hit your irish pride.
Yawn

I’m pretty proud of how we dealt with it. I would expect that countries who have guaranteed long subzero winters every year would deal with it much better. It would be strange if they didn’t. Don’t you understand the differing climates? Ireland’s is temperate and strongly influenced by the jet stream. What happened was rare.

Oh and Ireland had NO fatalities due to this cold spell. Meanwhile supposedly better-equipped countries such as Poland had quite a few. That’s nothing to be proud of. So laugh it up!

andekwarhola

weldoninhio wrote: »

But if the scum are a tiny minority it should follow that the decent people have a vast majority I.e a much larger mob.

Behold the badass by proxy.

bucketybuck

_Dara_ wrote: »

Oh and Ireland had NO fatalities due to this cold spell.

I don't think that is correct.

Didn't some poor care worker freeze to death trying to get somewhere, and wasn't there a case of ambulances unable to reach some poor man who then died. That's off the top of my head, but I'm sure there were some deaths in which the weather was a significant factor.

ChikiChiki

muppetshow1451 wrote: »

They are probably laughing there arse of in Norway,Canada and Russia at the moment.

Lol what an absolutely useless post. What I found interesting during the snow that quite a few posters seemed to be in daily contact with their mates in Canada, Poland and Russia having a good chuckle.

We have a very stable temperate climate

_Dara_

bucketybuck wrote: »

I don't think that is correct.

Didn't some poor care worker freeze to death trying to get somewhere, and wasn't there a case of ambulances unable to reach some poor man who then died. That's off the top of my head, but I'm sure there were some deaths in which the weather was a significant factor.

I didn’t see any reports of those.

iamwhoiam

_Dara_ wrote: »

I didn’t see any reports of those.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/storm-emma/everyone-helped-that-brings-me-some-comfort-widow-of-grandfather-who-died-while-walking-in-the-snow-36675319.html

It is not entirely certain of the man would have survived his cardiac arrest even if they had reached him

iamwhoiam

muppetshow1451 wrote: »

They are probably laughing there arse of in Norway,Canada and Russia at the moment.

Well oddly enough I was chatting to someone in Canada who was amazed that we actually coped quite well with a weather event that we are not used to .

_Dara_

iamwhoiam wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/storm-emma/everyone-helped-that-brings-me-some-comfort-widow-of-grandfather-who-died-while-walking-in-the-snow-36675319.html

It is not entirely certain of the man would have survived his cardiac arrest even if they had reached him

That’s kinda tenuous so.

Macy0161

I'd also say we seemed to cope better than the UK. We have/ had people cut off in their homes not stranded on motorways for hours and hours.

For the majority, things are also getting back to normal very rapidly - hence a lot of ignorant/ selfish stuff on the likes of Facebook giving out about footpaths and car parks not being cleared, when councils are still clearing drifts to get to households.

DEFTLEFTHAND

erica74 wrote: »

I'd say they are probably just living their lives and don't really care about our weather, the same way we don't really care about their weather.

My Dad was in Sweden in the 70s and the first people he met did't even know what Ireland was, just gave him a blank stare.:D

When he showed them it on his diary map, they said, oh England.