Saturday 17/2

longshotvalue

Haydock 3:15

Silsol really strikes me as being underestimated here tomorrow. He goes in the ground is certain to stay and is on a very good mark comparative to his hurdles mark. He was a good 5th in the Welsh National carrying more weight and got caught wide before the straight which cost him ground. I think Blacklion will struggle to give him over a stone. 12/1 is great value, as to me he looks a 6/1 shot

2 Points win 12/1 365/lads 11/1 generally

Lloyderz

Lucky 15

Ms Parfois 7/4
Coney Island 3/1
Presenting Percy 13/8
Blaklion 5/2

Really like Ms Parfois. Absolute tank of a mare, and her jumping is superb over a fence. Getting 7 pounds from Black Corton too.

jimjamcos

Think the Waiting Patiently/Presenting Percy double is rock solid myself.

Absolutely love Top Notch as a jumper but just think Waiting Patiently has more of a change of gear than him, stays just as well and, importantly, will have race setup for him by TN. Coney Island is respected but don't think he has the speed needed here. Stayed on against a horse who went too hard lto.

Presenting Percy should have too much turn of foot for Our Duke and Valseur Lido too.

BumperD

Gold Present looks just that tomorrow 7/2 in places 9/4 most

Edit. In line with forum charter I should provide rational. Horse it beat last time out is a serious animal frodon contesting grade 1 later today mark protected with grand national in mind, opposition is weak tomorrow with a clear round he destroys this field imo my biggest bet of year.

Mr321

A Toi Phil 5s my only bet

Peintre Celebre

Have Blaklion at 150s for the gc so hope he hacks up today. A win today would put him near top rated for it and they're debating whether to send him or not. Backed first Experience in the opener at Ling back to a mile he's v well handicapped

posturingpat

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Have Blaklion at 150s for the gc so hope he hacks up today. A win today would put him near top rated for it and they're debating whether to send him or not. Backed first Experience in the opener at Ling back to a mile he's v well handicapped

Amazingly if he did hack up today he'd almost certainly be the highest rated horse in the Gold cup field which is mental when you think he got beat in a grade 3(I think) chase on his first run this season and will have only had 2 handicap wins since albeit of high marks.

RivetingRoger

Cue Card anyone?.................anyone??!!

Peintre Celebre

posturingpat wrote: »

Amazingly if he did hack up today he'd almost certainly be the highest rated horse in the Gold cup field which is mental when you think he got beat in a grade 3(I think) chase on his first run this season and will have only had 2 handicap wins since albeit of high marks.

Peculiar alright but would go with a good outside chance. Others dropping like flies and he's an RSA winner and looked a non stayer in the national. Would be shorter than Definightly Red anyway who is about 20 to back on bf

longshotvalue

Ascot 3:00
Solstice Star is a horse I've been expecting to return to form at some stage. I think this race and ground will suit him and although there are a few unexposed ones here in think he is a big price at 28/1. He will be carrying a very light weight with the 7lbs claimer on and that should make him hard to kick out of the places.
1 Point EW 28/1 paddy/betfair/vc

Peintre Celebre

Anyone think Identity Thief worth a few quid today?

posturingpat

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Anyone think Identity Thief worth a few quid today?

Id give him next to no chance. Just think he's totally gone off the boil and could be finished. I'll not be having a get though so good luck.

posturingpat

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Cue Card anyone?.................anyone??!!

If ever there was a race to not bet on this is it. Sit back and savour it. If hes involved near the end I'll cheer him on for sure.

longshotvalue

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Anyone think Identity Thief worth a few quid today?

Just thinking about it to be honest. Probably going for it.

mountai

Byrnes to bash the Bookies in Bumper again?? . No reason not to take a chance , wont be anything like the odds of last time .

longshotvalue

Gowran 3:10

Although this looks a good race, I'm finding it hard to fancy anything. Identity Thief ran well for a lot of the Irish Champion Hurdle and got tired after a long break. I wonder will he consent to put in all in here. The couple of falls he took chasing seem to have affected him but I'm pretty sure he will come back to life at some stage and this might be the perfect opportunity. He seems more of an 8/1 shot that 12's

2 Points win 12/1 Generally

longshotvalue

At the risk of being given out to for not backing this Ch'tibello seems more of a 4/6 shot and 6/4.

Peintre Celebre

aidankkk wrote: »

Just thinking about it to be honest. Probably going for it.

Ya when you see lagostovegas 6/4 surely he's worth a chance at his price. Still quite lighty raced

posturingpat

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Ya when you see lagostovegas 6/4 surely he's worth a chance at his price. Still quite lighty raced

I can't get my head around that 1. I'd have her twice the price of Mick Jazz rather than half his price.
Conditions not ideal for Mick Jazz at first glance, small enough field and bad ground but there should be plenty of pace, identity thief,forge meadow and Abbyssial all possible front runners and even the French horse Arcenfete won from the front over there so I can see Mick getting a good enough pace to drop in and aim at.
I told myself yesterday I couldn't be backing him(thinking he'd be evens or a bit bigger) with Cheltenham so near but I see Black type have him 11/4 which is a bizarrely big price and I'm going to open an account with them to avail of it.

posturingpat

Mick jazz just been taken out as I've gone onto their website.

Mall Dini NR now

longshotvalue

posturingpat wrote: »

Mick jazz just been taken out as I've gone onto their website.

Feck the 10/1 still about identity thief now looks exceptional . I'm not entity sure what beats him .

I may have an actual bet on that ..!!

sdoc13

aidankkk wrote:

Feck the 10/1 still about identity thief now looks exceptional . I'm not entity sure what beats him .

aidankkk wrote:

I may have an actual bet on that ..!!

11s with spoils

death1234567

BumperD wrote: »

Gold Present looks just that tomorrow 7/2 in places 9/4 most

Edit. In line with forum charter I should provide rational. Horse it beat last time out is a serious animal frodon contesting grade 1 later today mark protected with grand national in mind, opposition is weak tomorrow with a clear round he destroys this field imo my biggest bet of year.

Non runner.

longshotvalue

Gowran 3:10
With Mick Jazz gone, I think the 8/1 about Identity Thief is one of the best of the year so far. So well be going in again for another 2 pt bet. I just can’t see Forge Meadow having any chance. The w/o fav bet here at 3/1 is as nice a saver as you could see and looks odd-on to me


2 pts win 8/1 generally
2 pts 3/1 w/o fav 365/sky/fred/tote


The 3/1 w/o FAV for Identity Thief in the 3:10 Gorwan. Looks the best 3/1 shot i have seen in a long time.

handsfree2

jimjamcos wrote: »

Think the Waiting Patiently/Presenting Percy double is rock solid myself.

Absolutely love Top Notch as a jumper but just think Waiting Patiently has more of a change of gear than him, stays just as well and, importantly, will have race setup for him by TN. Coney Island is respected but don't think he has the speed needed here. Stayed on against a horse who went too hard lto.

Presenting Percy should have too much turn of foot for Our Duke and Valseur Lido too.

Your probably right that is between TN and WP. I think I'll have a small speculative bet on speredek. His performance last time out was decent ( although hard to fully gauge) but he's been running well all year, so he's worth a small punt.

Didactic Ninja

I've gone with Frodon.
He is like an alt crypto coin. Started at the bottom and the sky is the limit. I think he has another big one in him.
Cant leave him unbacked at 17's

Sao his half brother runs in last at Wincanton and is odds on fav

Gavin "shels"

Had an interest Trixie on

Presenting Percy
Up For Review
Ms Parfois

longshotvalue

I went for

Our Duke/Ch'tbello/Waiting/Ident in a couple of trebles etc.

BumperD

death1234567 wrote: »

Non runner.

Damn it!

Earendil

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Have Blaklion at 150s for the gc so hope he hacks up today. A win today would put him near top rated for it and they're debating whether to send him or not. Backed first Experience in the opener at Ling back to a mile he's v well handicapped

Geeeedyup there PC.

Chesty08

Coney Island 3/1 .... I’ll have that.

Slattsy

Taking a chance here on Valseur Lido. I dont think this lad stays 3 miles at all, so he could have too much toe for these stayers at the head of the market.

death1234567

Black Corton fairly hacked up there. Easy as you like.

BumperD

Yeah I was wondering what race but its RSA bound.....serious chance you'd have to think

hawaii501

Black Corton won that very easy. Just turned the screw 2 out and left them for dead.

Slattsy

BC beat tree's there lads, steady on.

BumperD

Hopefully Percy wins this one to keep the RSA on track

BumperD

Slattsy wrote: »

BC beat tree's there lads, steady on.

Fair point.

Didactic Ninja

ahhh percy **** offf

death1234567

Good duel between Our Duke and PP.

BumperD

It was. Good experience for PP against Grade 1 horses. Was hoping he'd win but happy enough.

Slattsy

PP backers should be happy enough with that run. Hard enough race all the same..

BumperD

I've rose tinted glasses with pp but they only got going two out so wasnt a hard race for 2.5. Puts him spot on imo. Our Duke backers would be happy too for GC

NaiveMelodies

Our Duke absolutely hammered 4 or 5 out? Won't get away with one of them mistakes in the Gold Cup. 3 runs this season, one with a number of errors, another with a standout error and today. 8/1 is no price at all.
Percy jumped very well, but given Dukes mistake it's a slight negative on his RSA case for me. Couldn't have him at the prices pre race, definitely can't have him now.

NaiveMelodies

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Have Blaklion at 150s for the gc so hope he hacks up today. A win today would put him near top rated for it and they're debating whether to send him or not. Backed first Experience in the opener at Ling back to a mile he's v well handicapped

Lovely shout

Didactic Ninja

dieg man last. jesusssss

STB.

Be interesting to see how far Identity Thief has fallen in ratings......

BumperD

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Have Blaklion at 150s for the gc so hope he hacks up today. A win today would put him near top rated for it and they're debating whether to send him or not. Backed first Experience in the opener at Ling back to a mile he's v well handicapped

Fancied him after rsa couple seasons back but the wheels came off last season. Great price if he turns up pc

BorneTobyWilde

Mysteree in 3.15 for me

EW
Shot
Stays all day .

Didactic Ninja

ahhhhhh identity thief. killing me here