The Walking Dead | Season 8 | Episode 9 | Honor [AMC] [SPOILERS]

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The Walking Dead - Season 8

Episode 9 - "Honor"

Airdate - February 25th on AMC at 9/8c | February 26th on FOX UK at 9PM

Rick faces new difficulties after a battle. Meanwhile, the fight continues in other communities as core members face hard decisions.

* This is an extended 82 minute episode, including commercials.

Promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riMH8kPMoVM

Promo 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj-ad3raMbs

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7

Season 8a recap;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g28j9XQqIEE

w/s/p/c/

I expect Carl's demise to be spread out over a few episodes?

davo2001

w/s/p/c/ wrote: »

I expect Carl's demise to be spread out over a few episodes seasons?

Fixed that for you, just because of the rate this show is going :rolleyes:

DoozerT6

Is it that time again already?

Keplar240B

9

Epicness* awaits


*Epicness is when you're watching something epic, and suddenly your body starts tingingling

frash

Keplar240B wrote: »

Epicness* awaits


*Epicness is when you're watching something epic, and suddenly your body starts tingingling

I must have seen a different version of the last season than you did

Blazer

urggghhh

looking at the flashforwards which have a whole Lost vibe it seems Eugene survives...ffs

Do yourselves a favour and just skip all the crap with Karl

quite possibly a contender for the worst episode yet.

Wibbs

Blazer wrote: »

quite possibly a contender for the worst episode yet.

Bejeebus that sets a low bar. :eek:

Liamalone

Fell asleep

siblers

I had never missed an episode of The Walking Dead up until I missed episode 6 of season 8 and I ended missing the next two. I just couldn't bring myself to catch up with the 3 episodes I missed . Some part of me was hoping it would get its act together and I was planning on jumping back into episode 9 but it seems that it's worse the show is after getting and don't see myself watching it anymore unless some kind of miracle happens with the writing and directing. A pity really how the show has become such a mess

raspberrypi67

Have to agree,

They should have just finished up the whole thing last season, getting fed up too with the ****e the characters come out with and the repitition in trying to kill that stupid C*** Negan. I'm actually beginning to change sides in favor of Negan...and hope he slaughters the whole sorry crew...lol, now that would be a great ending..lol

siblers wrote: »

I had never missed an episode of The Walking Dead up until I missed episode 6 of season 8 and I ended missing the next two. I just couldn't bring myself to catch up with the 3 episodes I missed . Some part of me was hoping it would get its act together and I was planning on jumping back into episode 9 but it seems that it's worse the show is after getting and don't see myself watching it anymore, unless some kind of miracle happens with the writing and directing. A pity really how the show has become such a mess

thegreengoblin

Blazer wrote: »

urggghhh

looking at the flashforwards which have a whole Lost vibe it seems Eugene survives...ffs

Do yourselves a favour and just skip all the crap with Karl

quite possibly a contender for the worst episode yet.

Ah jeez, did you watch last season at all? I know the show has gone to **** but this was by no means in that kind of category.

All things considered, it was a decent episode which benefited hugely from not having dozens of characters scattered throughout every scene. It was focused and more tightly written than most episodes.

I thought Carl's send-off would be a lot more syrupy, filled with lots of flashbacks and all about him but it was fine. I wouldn't say Chandler Riggs knocked it out of the park but Carl was more likeable in this than any previous episode I can recall.

The gunshot scene with Rick and Michonne waiting outside the house was done very well.

Daryl gave him a very Daryl farewell and Tara stood around looking utterly confused so no change there.

The Morgan tormented psycho killer stuff is very stale by now but at least they had a separate strand going alongside the Carl stuff. Of course, this being the Walking Dead certain things make you want to scream and

the kid coming from nowhere to kill the jowl-faced Saviour was absurd. I know it was dark but come on, it's not a cartoon!

The flash forwards have to stop though. They can be effective now and then but it seems like we get them in every episode. Were all of those scenes meant to be Carl's vision or are they meant to be how it all pans out? If it's the latter then I'm sure many folk will be very pissed off at seeing

Negan as part of Alexandria's future

I thought the episode ended very abruptly...was

Rick sitting injured in front of the tree

the last scene?

Anyway, taking into account the huge dip in quality over the last couple of seasons, Carl was a major character who deserved a fitting farewell and he got one.

Brego888

2

Turned off after 15 minutes. I'm officially out. The fact it's been drawn out for so long combined with fact I don't care what happens to any of the characters has made it a torture to watch. I'm done.

pjohnson

The "flashforwards" are just Carl's hopes/dreams

Jimmy Bottlehead

7

I have to say, I enjoyed that episode more than any since the opener to season 7.

Overall, I thought Carl's death was handled beautifully. It caught the mood very nicely, and was a fitting end. His character did my head in a lot during his run, but Chandler Riggs did a great job; it was also slightly strange really seeing him as a young man for the first time, with the visible stubble. Rick and to a slightly lesser degree Michonne were both on point. I felt the episode went back to the well a little too often and bringing him to the church at the end seemed pointless, but that gunshot scene was lovely.

The Morgan bit was a little bit of a retread, and the payoff with the kid was stereotypical rolly eyes Walking Dead, but the lead up all the way there was pretty fun.

As said, the fact that there were only two parallel threads and fewer characters helped the episode immensely. It felt much tighter and focused than any episode in a long time.

Seeing as Gimple has gotten promoted from being the show runner, I am hoping that this episode is the first sign of better things to come. Hopefully I won't regret my optimism next week

biggebruv

3

I found it unintentionally funny when carl silenced himself it was almost like something from rick and Morty or family guy


Anyways ****e episode overall could have been just 40mins Long it was terribly edited as well to much jumping forward and backwards it killed any feelings built up for Carl’s death.

D3V!L

2

I'll echo what was already said. Worst episode ever !!

This is actually at the end of the hill at this stage.

brianregan09

There was way worse episodes than this

manster

Much tighter and better directed than the drivel served up at the start of the season. A major character dies and they cover it less than 2 episodes. Flash forwards aside, I really enjoyed it.

pjohnson

brianregan09 wrote: »

There was way worse episodes than this

Still has probably been deleted from 99% of peoples minds.

Agent Coulson

1

I gave it a 2 out of 10 as I know there will be a worse episode before the season ends.


Why do I do it to myself.

LionelNashe

2

A while back I was rooting for Negan over Rick & the gang, due to their inability to just point a gun at him and pull the trigger. At this stage I'd be happy with the walkers killing everybody. The moralising, the forgiveness, the schmaltz, is making me ill.

sonofenoch

Didn't watch....is Negan still wearing that bloody jacket and his skinny jeans

phobia2011

Was it all a dream? Was Rick dreaming?

Pete Moss

sonofenoch wrote:

Didn't watch....is Negan still wearing that bloody jacket and his skinny jeans

No, he's wearing a plaid shirt and has taken up gardening from what we saw.

Blazer

Pete Moss wrote: »

No, he's wearing a plaid shirt and has taken up gardening from what we saw.

Sure we all know the flashforwarss are bull**** and probably Carl’s.
No way is Rick going to let Neegan live. No way is anyone going to let Neegan live really.

mzungu

Episode did not need the longer running time as there was lots of pointless fluff in there. All in all it was not the worst episode of the series, but it wasn't really all that good either.

LionelNashe

2

Blazer wrote: »

Sure we all know the flashforwarss are bull**** and probably Carl’s.
No way is Rick going to let Neegan live. No way is anyone going to let Neegan live really.

I was pissed off enough to see Eugene in the flash-forward; that last scene just took the biscuit.

Wolverine359

Blazer wrote: »

No way is Rick going to let Neegan live. No way is anyone going to let Neegan live really.

Hmm, well if

the show ends up following his storyline from the comics...

TheBeach

phobia2011 wrote:

Was it all a dream? Was Rick dreaming?

I thought it was all a dream too when Rick woke under the tree?

StringerBell

Had a couple of good moments for sure,but a pretty boring episode overall.

The Coral stuff was probably the main culprit of the boredom, Lenny James is the man though.

stronglikebull

2

I'm just waiting for Bobby Ewing to wake up now. That close up of Rick's face with the teary eyes needs to go away now. So bloody annoying. And Carl, thankfully we won't have to listen to any more preachy speeches from him. Judith had the right idea, cry and leave. This was such a long and drawn out pile of crap. Not as long as Glenn's many death scenes, but still drawn out.

This show is pants. Smelly, old hobo pants.


Also, Morgan is a psycho killer again, yeah!

Scraggs

A noble death for Carl. A nice reminder that walkers can be a threat (when it suits the story.)

One question I have is why does Rick have pink eye?

Jimmy Bottlehead

7

The results so far in the poll are insane. I think it says more about how inconsistent the show has been to date than it does about this particular episode.

Living Off The Splash

4

It's all over the place. In one episode they have the upper hand and in the next they are hiding underground. This could go on forever.

Also if this is a Bobby Ewing moment then it is really sinking to a new low. The son was a crap actor anyway...

WinnyThePoo

It was spelled out pretty clearly that the dream sequences where carls. He tells us.

NUTZZ

7

https://twitter.com/RickAndThangs/status/967966689374625792

alchemist33

4

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

It was spelled out pretty clearly that the dream sequences where carls. He tells us.

I think most of them, the ones with the fuzzy camerawork, are Carl's idealised dream of the future where all the killing stops.

But the one with Rick by a tree with the red eyes are shot differently and look like a real flash forward.

Shane St.

Jesus he got a nice bit done in that montage after the bit. Efficient little fecker is Karl. Show is a mess now but that was a decent episode

Lone Stone

Havent watched any of this season, i never liked that chandler Riggs guy always found most of his acting to be a train wreck all i ever see is him standing in the back of that truck half heart-idly calling for negan when i think about him.

Terrible decision for the story overall tho killing his character off. I would have preferred him being replaced as a jump forward would have been a good way to replace him with a better actor. But yerp il probably catch up when the new show runner takes over next seasons will be good for the show to finally be rid of gimple.

duffman13

2

Carol and Morgan being SEAL team 6 was ridiculous. At the start of the episode there was around 30 people in the compound. Do they not look at some of the actions scenes and think, Jesus this looks terrible.

I'll give it till the end of the season but only cause I'm an absolute sucker

rodneyTrotter.

4

Thought it dragged on a lot to be honest , a bit like the series at this stage .
To think back of the first couple of seasons and the way you couldn’t wait to see it.

I’m not enjoying this season really . I hope it ends with a bang and they call it a day . Meegan Is gas but at this rate they will have Conor Mcgregor as the next villain !

bear1

Felt like I was watching paint dry.
The ending... right.
Blood all over Ricks hands and that coloured glass hanging next to him matched the church I think.
58mins I'll never get back.

Yakult

I think the way Riggs died really reflected on how the show itself is dying, long and slow.

Like, what is the outcome of all of this? When they inevitably kill Neegan off, will some other bad man come and replace him? I feel like we have lived this story line before... Truly boring stuff.

They need to start some actual development, because I feel like its just going around and around, going nowhere in my life time it would seem!

If I were these boys, I'd be planning one or two more seasons to close the show, make it interesting and some how, some how... end on a high.

Hande hoche!

6

Decent if a bit glacial in its pace. Hopeful for the rest of the season.

Yakult wrote: »

If I were these boys, I'd be planning one or two more seasons to close the show, make it interesting and some how, some how... end on a high.

Yeah wrap it up after ten seasons. They still would have their spin off show.

DoozerT6

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Decent if a bit glacial in its pace. Hopeful for the rest of the season.




Yeah wrap it up after ten seasons. They still would have their spin off show.

I'd say wrap it up after this season - there's still half of S8 to go. (Disclaimer, I know that's not gonna happen, but this is just my take on it). As many, many people have stated, the show can only go for so long with it's current format (apocalypse happens, people struggle to survive, form groups, meet the baddie, fight the baddie, defeat the baddie, meet/fight/defeat another baddie, and another, and so on etc etc) before it just gets too repetitive. If I was running the show, I would wrap up the whole Negan thing before the end of this season, and by the last episode or two I would be showing that 'stuff and thangs' are happening outside of their tight little world (remember the helicopter a couple of episodes back???) and that society and government are starting to reform in a limited fashion. The last half of the last episode could be Rick and co discovering that the world is starting to reclaim itself from the walkers and that there is hope after all. Cue a final scene of an incredulous but hopeful looking Rick surveying the scene they have discovered - a cordoned-off government-run area in Washington (near Alexandria) with officials, electricity, a functioning society. Other survivors being trained to contribute to this new society, perhaps army training taking place. Official communications established with other survivors nationwide. Talks of limited industry and manufacturing starting up soon, getting electricity back to certain areas, large sections of walker-free land cordoned off for farming. That sort of thing.

I've loved this show, but it needs to evolve. It probably needed it LAST season tbh. Don't let it turn into something that people wish would just die already. It's certainly heading that way.

I wish Gimple/Kang could read this

Subacio

2

First time I felt like fast forwarding through an episode. And the standard of grave digging exhibited by Rick and Michonne was brutal.

Sleepy

They just missed the greatest opportunity to turn the show around: Carl should have survived the bite through a natural immunity. That would have given the rest of the group hope again, an opportunity to find/develop a cure and a path to finishing out the series. But no, instead they killed off one of the few remaining original characters that had a story to tell (that of growing up amidst the zombie apocalypse).

Was anyone else screaming at Morgan to just start pulling the damn trigger when he was lining up the saviours in his sights? Moronic behaviour and his character has long since past the point of not making any sense or being in any way believable.

I honestly don't know what it is that makes me keep watching this show. The first season was *SO* good and they've reduced it to this drivel.

stronglikebull

2

Sleepy wrote: »

Was anyone else screaming at Morgan to just start pulling the damn trigger when he was lining up the saviours in his sights? Moronic behaviour and his character has long since past the point of not making any sense or being in any way believable.

Yep. Why would they give a sniper rifle to a man who no longer wants to kill anyone? What moron made that decision?

bear1

Wait till he ball's up FTWD