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Knackery charges

  • 31-01-2018 1:43pm
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    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Our local knackery has upped the price this year, calf was €15, now €25 for the first calf and €20 for a second calf. I'm not sure yet what older animals are, but I think cows are still the same price as last year. Has anyone else round the country got prices? I'm in N. Tipp.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Our local knackery has upped the price this year, calf was €15, now €25 for the first calf and €20 for a second calf. I'm not sure yet what older animals are, but I think cows are still the same price as last year. Has anyone else round the country got prices? I'm in N. Tipp.

    30 euro for a calf in S.Kerry. No discount for subsequent calves. That's collected from the yard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,219 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    €25 for a calf collected. Doesnt charge extra if there's more than one. €55 for a cow over 4 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    whelan2 wrote: »
    €25 for a calf collected. Doesnt charge extra if there's more than one. €55 for a cow over 4 years.

    200 for a cow in North West Galway and mayo.
    Maloney and Matthews. Could do with some competition. 30 for a sheep.
    Not the most diplomatic either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭annubis


    kay 9 wrote: »
    200 for a cow in North West Galway and mayo.
    Maloney and Matthews. Could do with some competition. 30 for a sheep.
    Not the most diplomatic either
    200 for a cow.. jebus christ
    i got charged 68 i think for one there in the autumn and i thought it was robbery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    annubis wrote: »
    200 for a cow.. jebus christ
    i got charged 68 i think for one there in the autumn and i thought it was robbery

    Was 180 last year. 200 this I've been told. Luckily didn't have for a couple of years


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,219 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I fill out the paperwork while he loads the animal/s saves him time. Think it's €100 if under 4years old


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    kay 9 wrote: »
    200 for a cow in North West Galway and mayo.
    Maloney and Matthews. Could do with some competition. 30 for a sheep.
    Not the most diplomatic either
    kay 9 wrote: »
    Was 180 last year. 200 this I've been told. Luckily didn't have for a couple of years
    I'd say that's for a cow under 4 years as there is still a subsidy to collect older cows for BSE testing. Something similar here for a young cow but an older cow was under 100 euro the last time I sent one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭alps


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Our local knackery has upped the price this year, calf was €15, now €25 for the first calf and €20 for a second calf. I'm not sure yet what older animals are, but I think cows are still the same price as last year. Has anyone else round the country got prices? I'm in N. Tipp.

    Ffs....im back in bad mood again, just after calming down slightly after the ICBF 300% increase.....

    Did Old Moore predict the end of the world or something...

    There is no stop to this abuse....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    25 for a calf 100 for cow under four years and 50 over four years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    I'm in mid Tipp and would use a couple of place to get off casualties.in December I lost 2 in calf heifers within 24 hrs.rang the crowd I normally ring and it was €120.paid by card over phone.on the 2nd one rang the suit vale crowd.€ 80.i won't be as quick to ring the roscrea ones again in a hurry


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    kay 9 wrote: »
    200 for a cow in North West Galway and mayo.
    Maloney and Matthews. Could do with some competition. 30 for a sheep.
    Not the most diplomatic either

    We get maloney but would you ever try greenes from ballinasloe. Would often see them about in headford and tuam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    We get maloney but would you ever try greenes from ballinasloe. Would often see them about in headford and tuam

    It'll be greene the next time.
    Might be nicer to deal with as well.
    Why is there such a variation in prices?
    Is there no superior or watchdog over them?
    We're getting screwed up this way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭anthony500_1


    It seems like once your west of the Shannon it's a case of not enough competition so they have the "let's get rich quick" attuide fleece everyone for everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    alps wrote: »
    Ffs....im back in bad mood again, just after calming down slightly after the ICBF 300% increase.....

    Did Old Moore predict the end of the world or something...

    There is no stop to this abuse....

    Best not look into the insurance rip off thread so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    kay 9 wrote: »
    It'll be greene the next time.
    Might be nicer to deal with as well.
    Why is there such a variation in prices?
    Is there no superior or watchdog over them?
    We're getting screwed up this way.
    I was talking to the driver of our knackery lorry at the ploughing last year and he said there isn't much demand to drive those lorries and most new guys stay about 6 months and move onto better jobs. OHs aren't much in favour of the job, he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,334 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I was talking to the driver of our knackery lorry at the ploughing last year and he said there isn't much demand to drive those lorries and most new guys stay about 6 months and move onto better jobs. OHs aren't much in favour of the job, he said.

    The economy is going to affect us big time from now on,everyone's getting wage hikes, good employees are hard got and bad ones aren't worth having. There's good money available now, even lorry drivers now think bad of having to get down to unload a delivery of oil, meal, etc, all want to just sit up and drive. A girl who really just wanted to work on a dairy farm told me she couldn't stay at it at the money and went to work in ''Agriculture as opposed to Farming '' to quote herself, All this will be increasing our costs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    wrangler wrote: »
    The economy is going to affect us big time from now on,everyone's getting wage hikes, good employees are hard got and bad ones aren't worth having. There's good money available now, even lorry drivers now think bad of having to get down to unload a delivery of oil, meal, etc, all want to just sit up and drive. A girl who really just wanted to work on a dairy farm told me she couldn't stay at it at the money and went to work in ''Agriculture as opposed to Farming '' to quote herself, All this will be increasing our costs.
    Despite all the talk from Europe and our own politicians, there has been nothing done to rebalance the levels of revenue given to primary producers.

    It takes more than a press release to do that but every 6 months, both will come out with a new desire to redress the balance. And then sit on their hands until it's time to issue a press release again.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Altreab


    We get maloney but would you ever try greenes from ballinasloe. Would often see them about in headford and tuam

    Greens are charging 150 for cows over 4 years and around 120 for younger/donkies/horses in west Galway AKA Connemara at the moment :eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    Altreab wrote: »
    Greens are charging 150 for cows over 4 years and around 120 for younger/donkies/horses in west Galway AKA Connemara at the moment :eek::eek::eek:

    Still extortionate but cheaper than maloney


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Rang Barretts this evening to collect a cow over 4 years old that I had put down with a broken leg. €50 and collected this evening


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,334 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Rang Barretts this evening to collect a cow over 4 years old that I had put down with a broken leg. €50 and collected this evening

    Are you near the border, Rendering is a lot cheaper in the north


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Odelay


    What do they do with them? Never thought of asking and fortunately never had them around too often.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    wrangler wrote: »
    Are you near the border, Rendering is a lot cheaper in the north
    No, North Kerry. Barretts are taking a good bit of business from Wards around here due to being cheaper, a lot cheaper.

    The down side is the animal may be in the yard a bit longer maybe a day or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    Odelay wrote: »
    What do they do with them? Never thought of asking and fortunately never had them around too often.

    Shredder or grinder and composted I suppose.
    They shred sheep and pigs anyway. Cattle too probably


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,334 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    kay 9 wrote: »
    Shredder or grinder and composted I suppose.
    They shred sheep and pigs anyway. Cattle too probably

    They'd surely have to cook/process them some way, you'd smell them in hell otherwise


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Rang Barretts this evening to collect a cow over 4 years old that I had put down with a broken leg. €50 and collected this evening

    Did you do it yourself? Bordbia inspector tells me we have to get the knackery to do it now, then he went on to say unless it's a saturday or sunday, we're still allowed to do it those days, FFS it's getting ridiculous at this stage.

    Looks like the further west we go the higher the price, I think we'll all have to get the phone number off whelan.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Did you do it yourself? Bordbia inspector tells me we have to get the knackery to do it now, then he went on to say unless it's a saturday or sunday, we're still allowed to do it those days, FFS it's getting ridiculous at this stage.

    Looks like the further west we go the higher the price, I think we'll all have to get the phone number off whelan.

    I'd be more concerned if they said you have to get the vet to do it. That'd be 2 bills and it'll be the next thing they dream up. I didn't think the knackery charged extra for the bullet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    They don't charge extra, here anyway. Would get the vet here if on a weekend or if knackary can't come


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Did you do it yourself? Bordbia inspector tells me we have to get the knackery to do it now, then he went on to say unless it's a saturday or sunday, we're still allowed to do it those days, FFS it's getting ridiculous at this stage.

    Looks like the further west we go the higher the price, I think we'll all have to get the phone number off whelan.
    No, I got the vet to do it. I had one or two more things to look at with him so got him to do it once he confirmed the leg was broken:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    It's not just west of the Shannon te gouging happens, 50 quid for a ewe and they'll take their sweet time coming.

    No charge for putting anythin down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Just regarding the vet euthanasing an animal when the carcass is collected by the knackery make sure they are informed that it was done using drugs as some carcasses are used for dogmeat and the drugs present can have consequences further down the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭newholland mad


    Just delivered a dead ewe and a big sign up that the charge is gone from 30 to 40 from 1st Feb. Worst part is i spent the last 10 days struggling to keep her alive and she died on Saturday anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Steviesol


    Sorry, but what services does a knackery provide for that cost ?

    *cityboy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    Just regarding the vet euthanasing an animal when the carcass is collected by the knackery make sure they are informed that it was done using drugs as some carcasses are used for dogmeat and the drugs present can have consequences further down the line.

    didnt think that was allowed anymore, surely a lot of casualty animals have received some form of medicine before passing, id say 95% of what leaves her has been treated prior to leaving, we have never informed knackery of medicines use as all animals are to be sent for incineration complements of larry goodman and co


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Basically they just collect dead animals from farms. They process them for pet food, and sell the skins. If you've ever heard of meat and bonemeal fertiliser this is where it comes from too.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    didnt think that was allowed anymore, surely a lot of casualty animals have received some form of medicine before passing, id say 95% of what leaves her has been treated prior to leaving, we have never informed knackery of medicines use as all animals are to be sent for incineration complements of larry goodman and co

    I thought the lorry here has category whatever not for animal consumption on the side. Altho vet did say to make sure that I told them the vet had put her down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,334 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Mooooo wrote: »
    I thought the lorry here has category whatever not for animal consumption on the side. Altho vet did say to make sure that I told them the vet had put her down

    Some vets use a strong dose of anaesthetic when putting them down and apparently, there's enough residue to kill the dogs if they're going to a hunt.
    Antibiotics etc doesn't seem to be as big a problem.
    Dead animals are still used for dog food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Just delivered a dead ewe and a big sign up that the charge is gone from 30 to 40 from 1st Feb. Worst part is i spent the last 10 days struggling to keep her alive and she died on Saturday anyway

    You should have brought her Wed and had 2 pints and a packet of peanuts coming home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    wrangler wrote: »
    Some vets use a strong dose of anaesthetic when putting them down and apparently, there's enough residue to kill the dogs if they're going to a hunt.
    Antibiotics etc doesn't seem to be as big a problem.
    Dead animals are still used for dog food

    Ah yeah, vet says different cows could react differently 're dosage for anaesthetic so they'd understandably give the higher dose for that job. Vasectomised two bulls here one day. First one done fine, sec9nd one lay down due to the anaesthetic effect. Same weight same dose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    got a text from our local (and only) wexford based knackery.

    first calf ( under 3 months) €50 each additional calf on collection €25.

    now i don't like them hanging around and will always ring as soon as there is an animal to be collected.
    i said it to them and and was told to hang on for a few and ring then, they didn't mind how long they were there.

    annoyed to say the least


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Vet won't be happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    dar31 wrote: »
    got a text from our local (and only) wexford based knackery.

    first calf ( under 3 months) €50 each additional calf on collection €25.

    now i don't like them hanging around and will always ring as soon as there is an animal to be collected.
    i said it to them and and was told to hang on for a few and ring then, they didn't mind how long they were there.

    annoyed to say the least

    Larry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    ganmo wrote: »
    Larry?

    Yep, nearly fell over when he handed me a 50e bill last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭longgonesilver


    Is it possible to deliver?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Just delivered a dead ewe and a big sign up that the charge is gone from 30 to 40 from 1st Feb. Worst part is i spent the last 10 days struggling to keep her alive and she died on Saturday anyway
    Where is that ?
    Our local knackery is supposedly now charging 40 euro per ewe delivered.That will surely encourage everyone to bring all their dead sheep there.Although in fairness was there first week of January with dead ewe(day after filling out census so said better start off good anyways!!) and brought a dying 2017 lamb that was failing for a month or two.Charged 40 all in.Thats delivered.Ewe probably 90 kgs,lamb barely 20kgs.
    He told me he doesn't want sheep at all and prefers cattle/cows to be as light and thin as possible otherwise the disposal cost can nearly outweigh the charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Yep, nearly fell over when he handed me a 50e last week.

    Cow over 4 years is 50


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,219 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Cow over 4 years is 50
    Was 65 euro here last week to get a 8 year old cow shot- broken front leg- and a calf collected


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Where is that ?
    Our local knackery is supposedly now charging 40 euro per ewe delivered.That will surely encourage everyone to bring all their dead sheep there.Although in fairness was there first week of January with dead ewe(day after filling out census so said better start off good anyways!!) and brought a dying 2017 lamb that was failing for a month or two.Charged 40 all in.Thats delivered.Ewe probably 90 kgs,lamb barely 20kgs.
    He told me he doesn't want sheep at all and prefers cattle/cows to be as light and thin as possible otherwise the disposal cost can nearly outweigh the charge.
    Check out the price of a pm in your DVO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    ganmo wrote: »
    Check out the price of a pm in your DVO
    Done that a couple of times but (a) its a bit away and time can be an issue when busy.Knackery is only 4 or miles from here (b)they are busy enough so prefer to have them looking at genuine cases rather than using them for a cheaper disposal method.

    On a related note what percentage of dead sheep ever see the knackery ? Would imagine its less than 5% as anyone I know only bring maybe one or two a year to keep from getting inspection/letter.Who would bring a dead lamb?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Done that a couple of times but (a) its a bit away and time can be an issue when busy.Knackery is only 4 or miles from here (b)they are busy enough so prefer to have them looking at genuine cases rather than using them for a cheaper disposal method.

    On a related note what percentage of dead sheep ever see the knackery ? Would imagine its less than 5% as anyone I know only bring maybe one or two a year to keep from getting inspection/letter.Who would bring a dead lamb?

    If he was here for a ewe id throw up a few lambs but otherwise its not woeth calling him for lambs


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