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Bus Eireann - seriously poor

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    #362
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    pwurple wrote: »
    The problem is, the routes are designed around breaks. Not around where the customers need to go.

    I have hired plenty of private bus drivers in my working life, and am well aware of the working directives and tachographs. Private drivers invariably take their breaks either in a cafe, hotel or public spot on the route, or on the bus itself. They do not turn the bus around, dump the passengers on the road, to go take a tea break.

    It is unions writing the routes instead of business need.


    if the bus is being turned half way and the passengers put off then that is likely a control issue or the driver is almost about to go over his hours.
    it certainly won't be for tea breaks.
    it is most certainly not the unions writing anything, especially routes. that is not in their remit and it is day to day running which they cannot interfere with any more then insuring rostering doesn't cause drivers to go over their legal driving hours.
    the service issues are down to management, they manage the company, it's on them to insure everything is working. the NTA is the same.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #363
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,668 ✭✭✭corks finest


    blindsider wrote: »
    I'm glad that you seem happy with a bus service that is unreliable, infrequent and poorly run. Try any other second city in Europe to see what I mean....in fact try *any* city in Europe.

    You can make all the excuses you like- the bus service in Cork is shockingly poor and we deserve better!

    Having lived /worked all-over Europe + other parts , management and unions have messed up the service in Cork,no other city I've been to has these constant/ decades old problems,glad I no longer have to depend on this service


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    #364
    timmyjimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭timmyjimmy


    end of the road wrote: »
    if the bus is being turned half way and the passengers put off then that is likely a control issue or the driver is almost about to go over his hours.
    it certainly won't be for tea breaks.
    it is most certainly not the unions writing anything, especially routes. that is not in their remit and it is day to day running which they cannot interfere with any more then insuring rostering doesn't cause drivers to go over their legal driving hours.
    the service issues are down to management, they manage the company, it's on them to insure everything is working. the NTA is the same.

    BS. I was on a bus that was turned around and we were all told to get off. I asked the bus driver what's going on and he said he needs to for his tea break. I then asked what are we supposed to do now to which he replied "not my problem". I filed a complaint but as per usual it was ignored.


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    #365
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    timmyjimmy wrote: »
    BS. I was on a bus that was turned around and we were all told to get off. I asked the bus driver what's going on and he said he needs to for his tea break. I then asked what are we supposed to do now to which he replied "not my problem". I filed a complaint but as per usual it was ignored.


    if he was turning the bus to take a "tea break" as you claim, then that is a management issue and for them to deal with as they would be within their rights as it's not a required break.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #366
    kub
    Registered Users Posts: 6,538 ✭✭✭kub


    timmyjimmy wrote: »
    BS. I was on a bus that was turned around and we were all told to get off. I asked the bus driver what's going on and he said he needs to for his tea break. I then asked what are we supposed to do now to which he replied "not my problem". I filed a complaint but as per usual it was ignored.

    I have to wonder what would become of a driver in a private company if he had done that.

    It must be great to be a member of a dinosaur union.


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    #367
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    kub wrote: »
    I have to wonder what would become of a driver in a private company if he had done that.

    It must be great to be a member of a dinosaur union.

    They wouldn’t be sacked anyway


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    #368
    timmyjimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭timmyjimmy


    end of the road wrote: »
    if he was turning the bus to take a "tea break" as you claim, then that is a management issue and for them to deal with as they would be within their rights as it's not a required break.

    Why would I lie, he said he was going for his tea break. I filed a complaint but management said they'd look into it (didn't seem to care). It's the cushiest bus driving job in the country if you can get away with that sh!te.


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    #369
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    kub wrote: »
    I have to wonder what would become of a driver in a private company if he had done that.

    the same thing as would happen him or her in the rest of bus eireann or any other company, they would be disciplined. all be it how much would depend on the company.
    kub wrote: »
    It must be great to be a member of a dinosaur union.

    there is no such thing as a dinosaur union.
    unions exist across both the public and private sector, and they cannot protect staff from being disciplined.
    all they can do is insure that the procedure is followed correctly.
    timmyjimmy wrote: »
    Why would I lie, he said he was going for his tea break. I filed a complaint but management said they'd look into it (didn't seem to care). It's the cushiest bus driving job in the country if you can get away with that sh!te.

    i never said you lied, but given i wasn't there and given i'm not going to know what was in the driver's head then i am hardly going to be able to say anything more then "if it happened" because i can't verify your story.
    there is no such thing as a cushy bus driving job.
    i certainly wouldn't do it no matter the money anyway.
    it's not standard to the best of my knowledge for a transport company to give specific information as to any specific action taken against a specific member of staff, which is probably fair enough.
    the most they give out is generally basic statements such as, we will look into it, or, action has been taken, or, the staff member involved has been spoken to.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #370
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    There honestly has to be something else going on.... Well I do hope so as a driver in db we wouldn't have a hope of getting away with anything like this.

    Yes sometimes drivers put their passengers onto another bus but this is agreed with control and it is usually to get the other bus back on time and on the odd occasion to not have 2 running the last bit of the route and let one get back a little quicker.

    I honestly couldn't just dump people like that... Never have and never would.


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    #371
    Chuck Noland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Chuck Noland


    Ffs there was drivers bringing empty bus’s to fountanstown Christmas morning to go swimming

    They aren’t worried about managment


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    #372
    hans aus dtschl
    Registered Users Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    pwurple wrote: »
    Can you link it, because all I have seen is a schematic. A coloured line drawing with no roads marked. No printable map of routes exists that I have know of.

    https://www.buseireann.ie/pdf/1460983446-Cork_City_Centre_Map_A3-21.pdf


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    #373
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Forever useless.

    giphy.gif


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    #374
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,185 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    This is the current one on the Transport for Ireland site (NTA).

    bus map Cork

    The TFI app has route maps. A very good app also is Moovit. It has full maps of all bus routes and is linked into RTPI. Highly recommended.

    Android Moovit app


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    #375
    Dbu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Dbu


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cork-bus-driver-arrested-on-suspicion-of-drink-driving-973197.html

    Holy cow.


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    #376
    SkySter
    Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭SkySter


    Dbu wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cork-bus-driver-arrested-on-suspicion-of-drink-driving-973197.html

    Holy cow.

    Article doesn't say public or private. Although the "generic photo of a bus driver" has a guy wearing a bus eireann logo.


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    #377
    kub
    Registered Users Posts: 6,538 ✭✭✭kub


    SkySter wrote: »
    Article doesn't say public or private. Although the "generic photo of a bus driver" has a guy wearing a bus eireann logo.


    Hopefully this clears it up :


    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Latest-Bus-Eireann-apologise-after-driver-arrest-on-suspicion-of-drink-driving-8652074f-9c1f-4f6b-b7f2-c39188726902-ds


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    #378
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,668 ✭✭✭corks finest


    kub wrote: »
    Hopefully this clears it up :


    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Latest-Bus-Eireann-apologise-after-driver-arrest-on-suspicion-of-drink-driving-8652074f-9c1f-4f6b-b7f2-c39188726902-ds

    220


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    #379
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Ah sure, that would be the alcohol from the night before - you know the kind that doesn't count, according to many!


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    #380
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,070 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Dbu wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cork-bus-driver-arrested-on-suspicion-of-drink-driving-973197.html

    Holy cow.

    Not at all surprised by that.

    Been on a bus where we nearly crashed as Driver was on his phone, or a driver that was too busy drinking his coffee that he could go no more then 20kph(at 6.45am)

    Not mention no show bus on a Sunday evening waiting around 2hours and then getting a lecture from driver for each passenger getting in about how ****ing great he is and the service they provide.

    Or time bus breaks down and driver just does not care, no refund no advice, the no shows and the manners of some drivers is hard to believe.

    Thanks be to **** I only had deal with them for about 8 to 10 weeks cause I can’t honestly think of a service that comes close to how poor these guys are.

    Biggest shower of clowns ever

    They make the customer care of the Mobile companies in this country look efficient.


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    #381
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    I assume the solution to drink driving bus drivers is another bus lane? That appears to be the only solution ever put forward to improving the service in Cork.


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    #382
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,668 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Ref 220 bus wtf is going on ? 3 times today and tonight 3,yes three 220 buses in Carrigaline at the same time? Think it's a safety issue? Thought at first there was a broken down bus etc but no.


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