Oculus Go

mrcheez

Well might as well create the first megathread on the new forum.

Who's going to get an Oculus Go? What are your thoughts on it?

I personally will be getting one partly because I think it's going to open the floodgates to mass adoption of VR and I'd be interested in developing some apps for it, and also because I'd like to have a "cheaper" VR peripheral that I don't mind letting others use (ain't letting anyone touch my Rift buddy!)

I'll post up here when I get one later in the year. :pac:

kerplun k

mrcheez wrote: »

Well might as well create the first megathread on the new forum.

Who's going to get an Oculus Go? What are your thoughts on it?

I personally will be getting one partly because I think it's going to open the floodgates to mass adoption of VR and I'd be interested in developing some apps for it, and also because I'd like to have a "cheaper" VR peripheral that I don't mind letting others use (ain't letting anyone touch my Rift buddy!)

I'll post up here when I get one later in the year. :pac:

What’s the difference between Oculus Go and Samsung VR?

mrcheez

kerplun k wrote: »

What’s the difference between Oculus Go and Samsung VR?

Samsung VR as in the Gear VR?

Requires you use a specific phone model and the Go will have higher spec lenses (better than the Rift's apparently).
No risk of phone battery dying etc.

Plus it will be circa 200-300 euro for an all in one standalone VR solution.

Will be popular with the nsfw set too I imagine

lmimmfn

No interest in Go, not yet anyway if I flew regularly I'd be on it is a shot but as it stands I'm more interested in wireless Vive or Rift at not TPLink cost or limitations.

kerplun k

mrcheez wrote: »

Samsung VR as in the Gear VR?

Requires you use a specific phone model and the Go will have higher spec lenses (better than the Rift's apparently).
No risk of phone battery dying etc.

Plus it will be circa 200-300 euro for an all in one standalone VR solution.

Will be popular with the nsfw set too I imagine

Apologies, yep I meant GearVR. I tried GearVR about a year ago and it’s not a good representation of VR.

I only have PSVR atm, I’d like to see how Go compares to this. If Go could bring a similar standard of VR as the PSVR, it would be very tempting. The portability would be great, but the big advantage here would be the use of the Oculus Touch controller. But if it’s just another watered down VR headset, Akin to GearVR, I’d stay well away.

The big weakness with PSVR for me is the pesky move controllers.

Dyr

Is there a roadmap for the Rifts development in the future?

It seems like facebook don't really know what to do with Oculus

mrcheez

Bambi wrote: »

Is there a roadmap for the Rifts development in the future?

It seems like facebook don't really know what to do with Oculus

Probably will eventually be replaced by Santa Cruz

Note facebook have 400 new job openings specifically for VR

https://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-hiring-spree-suggests-facebook-is-accelerating-vr-ar-plans/

Great sign of things to come

pcuser

My 1st VR use was on a Oculus DK1 in trinity college. I was amazed by the possibility's for the future. A few yrs later I got the GearVr and I must admit I really enjoyed it. Just before Xmas i picked up the Rift and have being blown away by the difference.

Chances are I will also pick up the Oculus Go at some stage. It might be handy for travelling on planes, trains etc.

Calibos

Bambi wrote: »

Is there a roadmap for the Rifts development in the future?

It seems like facebook don't really know what to do with Oculus

It seems like HTC don't really know what to do with Vive

https://www.vive.com/cn/product/vive-focus-en/

Companies can have products in different market segments you know!

Facebook money had very little effect on the specs of CV1 as the design was pretty much set in stone before they bought Oculus. Their money would have had more of an effect on the choice of materials and fit and finish of the CV1 and more hires to iterate the Rifts software and SDK and Store front end and back end etc. May have had more of an effect on Touch in that Oculus didn't have to rush a controller out like HTC and could afford to get it much more right without feeling pressure to launch with an unfinished controller to compete with HTC.

Its Gen 2 and beyond where Facebooks financial clout really comes into play with all their expert hires for Oculus Research etc

Dyr

Calibos wrote: »

It seems like HTC don't really know what to do with Vive

https://www.vive.com/cn/product/vive-focus-en/

Companies can have products in different market segments you know!

Facebook money had very little effect on the specs of CV1 as the design was pretty much set in stone before they bought Oculus. Their money would have had more of an effect on the choice of materials and fit and finish of the CV1 and more hires to iterate the Rifts software and SDK and Store front end and back end etc. May have had more of an effect on Touch in that Oculus didn't have to rush a controller out like HTC and could afford to get it much more right without feeling pressure to launch with an unfinished controller to compete with HTC.

Its Gen 2 and beyond where Facebooks financial clout really comes into play with all their expert hires for Oculus Research etc

Calm down, calm down. Just pointing out that Facebook don't seem to really know what to do with oculus, long term. Although that said, since they undercut the Vive on price they've increased their market share a lot.

pcuser

Bambi wrote: »

Although that said, since they undercut the Vive on price they've increased their market share a lot.

I managed to get it for $349 in the US at Black Friday Bargain

Calibos

Bambi wrote: »

Calm down, calm down. Just pointing out that Facebook don't seem to really know what to do with oculus, long term. Although that said, since they undercut the Vive on price they've increased their market share a lot.

???

They know exactly what they are doing with Oculus longterm? The end goal is combo VR/AR in the sunglasses formfactor owned by a billion people in about 10 years. Facebooks end goal is certainly more on the AR side of things and smartphone level ubiquity but luckily for us early adopters and VR focussed peeps, the path to AR/VR sunglasses technologically and literally runs through VR and PCVR and ConsoleVR mainstream adoption where the technologies needed for the endgame device is perfected and then miniturised in stages till we achieve the sunglasses form factor.

BTW, stop saying things like "Calm Down, Calm Down." Every time I make a counter argument to one of your posts does not mean my intention is to restart an old Rift-v-Vive debate. This isnt the first time you've reacted to a counter argument of mine this way, granted its a long time since we interacted previously. Dont worry, I know you are not having a go, I know you are not an anti oculus fanboy, so no need to tell me to calm down. i was simply making a counter argument to your point that you dont think Facebook know what to do with Oculus.

mrcheez

Calibos wrote: »

my intention is to restart an old Rift-v-Vive debate

Hey if we're gonna start one of those create a new thread for it as we've got the forum now :pac:

Throw in the PSVR / Microsoft's AR stuff / PiMax and GearVR too

Calibos

mrcheez wrote: »

Hey if we're gonna start one of those create a new thread for it as we've got the forum now :pac:

Throw in the PSVR / Microsoft's AR stuff / PiMax and GearVR too

Don't **** stir Mr Dairy Product! no selective quoting please.

I over-reacted to some Rift v Vive teasing by the lads many moons ago and our VR Bro Bambi has never let me live it down;) Upon reflection and re-reading last year I realised our boards Vive VR Bro's were teasing/slagging but I'd been so used to some real vitriol from certain quarters on reddit that I misinterpreted and over-reacted to the lads teasing here on boards.

mrcheez

Calibos wrote: »

Don't **** stir Mr Dairy Product!

Haven't you heard of "cheezing"??? Nothing dairy about it mate!



Now where's that blasted cat...

mrcheez

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/oculus-go-standalone-vr-headset-will-not-short-apps-launch-3386508

Packaging is done... can only be a month away from launch?

skankles

Will Go support games like Arizona Sunshine?

mrcheez

skankles wrote: »

Will Go support games like Arizona Sunshine?

No it would be closer to on-rails GearVR games like Drop Dead (which I have on Rift as well and is actually really good).

It's VR-lite and more for "experiences" than the full-on headsets.

It has 3 degrees of freedom (detects when you look left/right, up and down), but not when you are crouching down like the Rift/Vive which have 6 degrees of freedom.

I'd say it would support things like Google Earth VR, which is great to have, and would be a fantastic way to relax or take up meditation. Good for cinema simulation too.

mrcheez

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/03/oculus-go-world-premiere-acceptable-compromises-amazing-quality-for-199/


Yum yum

Dr Bob

mrcheez wrote: »

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/03/oculus-go-world-premiere-acceptable-compromises-amazing-quality-for-199/


Yum yum

Hopefully that Europe gets something close to that $199 pricetag

mrcheez

Well $199 is excluding US taxes, so it'll prob be €199 here incl VAT

Conba

I'm in two minds about Go just as I was about Google Cardboard 2 years ago. On the one hand it makes 'VR' more accessible but on the other hand it's not true VR (thus the quotes).

Regardless of resolution, frame rate, FOV, etc, you can never feel truly immersed in a 3DoF headset. Don't get me wrong - I really enjoy my GearVR for light-weight experiences. But regardless of how still you might think you're sitting when rotating your head (3DoF) the fact is you're always moving slightly through the other 3 axes so it'll never be a really comfortable experience, and the illusion of immersion will always be somewhat broken.

mrcheez

It's VR-lite admittedly, but great for portability and viewing movies etc.

Would never be a replacement for the full VR obviously but a great way to get newcomers involved which can only be a good thing for VR.

I have a few app ideas in my head already to develop when I get mine.

Doge

Nice preview from the guys at Tested here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOeP9LTX3Ls

Calibos

Will wait for user reviews but definitely thinking of picking one of these up for VR Cinema usage where the 3DOF tracking will suffice. Ive used my Rift in Bed for this purpose but its a literal 'stretch' and a PITA. The higher res panels combined with the RGB Stripe pixel arrangement combined with the Gen 2 Hybrid lenses compared to Rift should mean Movies look even better on GO than on Rift.

mrcheez

Calibos wrote: »

Ive used my Rift in Bed for this purpose

Go will be easier to clean with baby wipes

Calibos

mrcheez wrote: »

Go will be easier to clean with baby wipes

Oculus learned their lesson with the Black Cloth covered Rift. Thats why they went for a much lighter shade for the GO

mrcheez

Released today. Oculus reddit is going mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQcR1q35vMc

Doge

€219 for the 32GB version and €269 for the 64GB. Not too shabby!

Will be interesting to see how it sells.

Doge

Something disappointing that seems to be a bit overlooked is the battery life. 2.5 hours of video playback or 2 hours of gaming.
That's simply not enough for a long haul flight. Think I'll wait til version 2.0.

mrcheez

Doge wrote: »

Something disappointing that seems to be a bit overlooked is the battery life. 2.5 hours of video playback or 2 hours of gaming.
That's simply not enough for a long haul flight. Think I'll wait til version 2.0.

Aye, but I guess you could bring along a battery power pack.

I'll be getting one anyway as a *cough* company expense.

Skerries

but is this any better than a Samsung Gear if you have the S8/S9?

mrcheez

Skerries wrote: »

but is this any better than a Samsung Gear if you have the S8/S9?

yup, better visuals and more power as no overheating issues

ShooterSF

Got mine today. Only got a quick drop into netflix but even that has me super excited and is part of the reason along with big screen vr why I wanted one! Gonna mod it with a little anker lipstick battery on top to get me through the days when I want a matinee too

mrcheez

ShooterSF wrote: »

Got mine today. Only got a quick drop into netflix but even that has me super excited and is part of the reason along with big screen vr why I wanted one! Gonna mod it with a little anker lipstick battery on top to get me through the days when I want a matinee too

Let us know how the pr0n works out too

ShooterSF

mrcheez wrote: »

Let us know how the pr0n works out too

You know I almost went to bed without a look. Should have enough battery life left at 4% :pac:

mrcheez

ShooterSF wrote: »

You know I almost went to bed without a look. Should have enough battery life left at 4% :pac:

Ya 4% should cover you for the requisite 5-10 mins

ShooterSF

Ok all I'm going to say about that is it is less gimmicky than it has any right to be :pac:

The only other VR headset I have tried are the cheap mobile housing ones but I really am enjoying the Go, getting hard (note to self: bad word choice considering previous topic) to justify trying it in this weather though, it is portable but I don't want to explain how I got that particular tan line in work tonight!! I just wish it had made a bigger splash with non tech types in Ireland as I have no one to watch movies with or play bad chess with in my social circle... Even trying to explain what is to friends on facebook shows how niche vr still is.

mrcheez

ShooterSF wrote: »

Ok all I'm going to say about that is it is less gimmicky than it has any right to be :pac:

The only other VR headset I have tried are the cheap mobile housing ones but I really am enjoying the Go, getting hard (note to self: bad word choice considering previous topic) to justify trying it in this weather though, it is portable but I don't want to explain how I got that particular tan line in work tonight!! I just wish it had made a bigger splash with non tech types in Ireland as I have no one to watch movies with or play bad chess with in my social circle... Even trying to explain what is to friends on facebook shows how niche vr still is.

I'll probably bring mine into work when I get it (next month) as lots of people in here are interested in trying.

Will end up nice and grubby after it I imagine, but hey if it gets more people into VR it's worth investing in a box-full of glasses cleaner wipes :eek:

Atomic Pineapple

It seems fairly limited to me, outside of watching stuff as if it was on a big screen (which isn't in HD I guess?) and playing some games, what does it do to entice non tech heads to vr?

ShooterSF

Atomic Pineapple wrote: »

It seems fairly limited to me, outside of watching stuff as if it was on a big screen (which isn't in HD I guess?) and playing some games what does it do to entice non tech heads to vr?

Hard to know when you are someone who loves tech I've only had it two days but it's mostly about as they call it "experiences". This thing does horror really well. Never had a movie or game make me feel so scared as some of the VR stuff. Watching 3D movies on a big screen wouldn't be possible for me otherwise either. And the screen is pretty good imo but I'm not someone who has probably watched high fidelity tv on an expensive LCD/LED so what do I know? My non-techy side wants more Catan or similar style boardgaming with friends. That is where I see potential for the machine. The hangouts playing a boardgame or wathcing a show or listening to an album and chatting with a friend you can't physically meet with up at the time. Basically allowing me to hangout with friends from around the world in a way skype or voice chat during an intensive gaming session doesn't offer. What do you think would bring non-tech types to it or do you see anything?

Atomic Pineapple

Yeh, see I've been through the experiences phase before with Google Cardboard, Samsung Gear VR, the Go looks likes it's just an updated way of going through more experiences. I'm wondering at what point VR offers something substantial that will bring in the masses. Honestly, I'm not sure what that is, possibly some social type interactive sphere that becomes a widely accepted norm. I guess we'll see, I think it's here to stay this time and only a matter of time before the hardware reaches a point where the potential can be unlocked.

horgan_p

Giving serious thought to pulling the trigger on this.
I think I'll mostly use it for viewing media (netflix etc.), and the experiences - rollercoaster and so on.
Will the "big games", specifically ST:TNG be ported to this or is it like trying to run Crysis 2 on a 386 ?
I dont want to buy something thats not going to be developer supported.

ShooterSF

horgan_p wrote: »

Giving serious thought to pulling the trigger on this.
I think I'll mostly use it for viewing media (netflix etc.), and the experiences - rollercoaster and so on.
Will the "big games", specifically ST:TNG be ported to this or is it like trying to run Crysis 2 on a 386 ?
I dont want to buy something thats not going to be developer supported.

Can't say much about the big games. It is still running a mobile chipset so I'm guessing graphics as well as refitting for 3DOF might be issues. I've found the media side very enjoyable, especially having access to my plex server through the headset. That and the experiences as someone new to VR has been worth admission to me.

On another topic I'm still amazed how immersive VR can be. I am playing around with the Face Your Fears app and have a terrible fear of heights. I can't last 30 seconds in the Killer View episode because my phobia kicks in full blast even though I know I'm standing on the ground.

mrcheez

ShooterSF wrote: »

Can't say much about the big games. It is still running a mobile chipset so I'm guessing graphics as well as refitting for 3DOF might be issues. I've found the media side very enjoyable, especially having access to my plex server through the headset. That and the experiences as someone new to VR has been worth admission to me.

On another topic I'm still amazed how immersive VR can be. I am playing around with the Face Your Fears app and have a terrible fear of heights. I can't last 30 seconds in the Killer View episode because my phobia kicks in full blast even though I know I'm standing on the ground.

You should try Ultrawings on Go... might actually help cure you!

Atomic Pineapple

ShooterSF wrote: »

On another topic I'm still amazed how immersive VR can be. I am playing around with the Face Your Fears app and have a terrible fear of heights. I can't last 30 seconds in the Killer View episode because my phobia kicks in full blast even though I know I'm standing on the ground.

There's a bit in SuperHot you might not like then if you ever get the chance to play it

ShooterSF

mrcheez wrote: »

You should try Ultrawings on Go... might actually help cure you!

I'm weirdly ok with flying and whether it's that or the cartoony graphics I'm good. At least on the first few missions. My stomach though...

Atomic Pineapple wrote: »

There's a bit in SuperHot you might not like then if you ever get the chance to play it

I only ever played it on the laptop but yeah I can see that being a problem.

I actually sideloaded the GearVR apps BeFearless for fear of heights which I plan to try out and see if they help through exposure. Probably a better option than the ending I suspect FaceYourFears has based on the other episodes :pac:

Grayson

I'm thinking of grabbing one of these as an intro to VR. If I like it I might pick up the santa cruz next year or the rumored microsoft one in a year or two.

The best price I can see online is from the oculus store. There doesn't even appear to be anywhere in Dublin selling them at the moment. Anyone have any recommendations?

megaten

Grayson wrote: »

I'm thinking of grabbing one of these as an intro to VR. If I like it I might pick up the santa cruz next year or the rumored microsoft one in a year or two.

The best price I can see online is from the oculus store. There doesn't even appear to be anywhere in Dublin selling them at the moment. Anyone have any recommendations?

https://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-go-hit-uk-european-retailers-month-pre-orders-now-available/
Online sites seem to be giving a date for the 27th for retail but I've no idea how accurate that is.
Never tried VR before and I'm interested intros for Netflix but it'd be nice if there was in in store demo somewhere.

NickTellis

The Oculus Go is due for release tomorrow (26th) in the UK and is available to preorder from all (UK) branches of Amazon, Argos and Curry's. Does anyone know if this also applies to Ireland as I can't find ANY info from any of these websites on whether they'll have them in stock tomorrow?

Grayson

I haven't seen any info. I ordered online from Oculus. However they couldn't seem to understand my address. It's a work address and I use it for loads of stuff. Took two days to sort it out and I still haven't gotton a tracking number. If it's in stores this week I'd recommend grabbing yours there.