JP McManus Pro-Am

Mantis Toboggan

Just home long day, course is amazing surely best parkland in the country. Probably the closest I'll get to Augusta. Followed Tiger and Rory who both got huge support. Free ice-cream was a nice touch. Car park was right beside the 12th hole, no delays. Only downside really was queuing 45 minutes for a hotdog. Not going to bother with it tomorrow, had enough with the Irish open and today.

Motivator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119289797#Comment_119289797

What is there to talk about? He’s playing with 3 people who’ve never worked a day in their lives, sponging off their old lad is not much of a conversation starter with Woods.

The amateur side of this turned me off it completely. I see enough of Bill Murray at the A T&T every year. Fair play to JP and anyone that put money towards this, fantastic cause.

mcburns07

Just back from it. First time at a golf tournament. Had visited Adare before but the course is just incredible no matter how many times you've seen it.

Huge crowd but plenty of opportunities to get close up views of the best golfers in the world if you planned ahead a few holes.

Extremely well organised event, only downside was the insane queues for food, note to self to bring food next time!

Gave my tickets to a few friends for tomorrow but wouldn't have minded making the trip up from Cork again!

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119289880#Comment_119289880

Diabolically slow.

3 hours for 10 holes , over 5 and a half for 18.

Course is immaculately kept, with no rough and fairways around 100 yards wide.

Not the best of viewing courses.

Parked in the village and walked in the side entrance to the course, very handy , saved 30 euro on parking.

Anyone could have walked onto the course today , nobody was checking caps.

Nice to see the pros up close but the pace of play is chronically slow and coupled with the fact each pro is with 3 amateurs means if you are following a group you see very little pro shots.

Alot of ignorant muppets on tee boxes holding phones up in the air too.

PARlance

Surprised Rahm's comments didn't get picked up a bit more. He was extremely impressed with the crowd, place etc but said the course would need to be de-Americanised for the Ryder Cup.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119291200#Comment_119291200

Followed Rahn today for a good few holes, was probably the best group to watch, Brian Evans was burning it up.

Yeah its far too open a course for a European Ryder Cup venue, the fairways are miles wide and there is no rough at all.

The rough there is better than fairways in some courses.

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119291215#Comment_119291215

I'd imagine they will toughen it up. Wide open fairways would play into the Yanks hand

Car99

I like a bit of rough when ryder cup is in town.

thewobbler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119291055#Comment_119291055

Never in all my life will i understand why , when an event is being broadcast by professionals, someone would want to visit the ground and watch the event through a shaky cam instead of their own eyes.

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119291200#Comment_119291200

DP World Tour had all of Rory's shots on YT and this was my immediate thoughts, have to squeeze in those fairways and grow up the rough for sure, green complexes are already there. The Yanks that played here yesterday and today should not recognise the course in 2027.

Last thing we want on a home venue is a US course which this clearly is.

Sounds like all had a great day apart from the food, my phone was hopping with pics, enjoy the last day!

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119291215#Comment_119291215

Rough definitely better than our fairways and the fairways much better than our greens!

Pdoghue

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119289117#Comment_119289117

Looking at the Smurfits making a dogs dinner of the first hole and being interviewed later reminded me of Succession. Sharon could be Shiv, the younger lad Romain, and the older lad Conor.

benny79

Is there any highlights been shown on telly? was home late last night so didnt get to check.

slave1

No LIV comments please, post them on the LIV thread, LIV posts deleted

MisterAnarchy

Never in all my life will i understand why , when an event is being broadcast by professionals, someone would want to visit the ground and watch the event through a shaky cam instead of their own eyes.

Its infuriating.

You get a good position on the tee box and at the last minute some ape sticks up the phone and blocks the view.

BrianD3

If they could somehow dispense with the am part or at least have a different set of amateurs it would be better. A charity event jammed with Smurfits, Desmonds, Magniers, McManuses plus Denis O'Brien, Charlie McCreevy etc. doesn't sit well with me.

Best thing (apart from the obvious i.e. Tiger) about it is Di Dougherty's arse in her tight jeans.

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292030#Comment_119292030

YouTube had every shot from Rory's round posted yesterday evening, he shaved the hole with a lot of putts

Mantis Toboggan

The Limerick hurlers were well looked after anyway, walking around with Tiger and Rory!

magic_murph

probably bad form to being up the LIV drama at a charity event. Just focus on the golf and raising money.

I know some players did talk about it - Harrington, McDowell etc a

kirk.

There's something a little off about the whole event

They're all flying in on their private jets destroying the ozone layer .And jaysus like just give the money to charity if you want to support them.

Other than that I've no issue with it as a spectacle albeit a ropey enough one with all the celebs in it

callaway92

Lads be careful with the comments about the rich people - I got completely scalded for it yesterday on here! It’s for charity didn’t you know!

Johnny_Fontane

Would much prefer JP to use his considerable clout to back the Irish Open (like rory did previously) rather than this personal vanity project of his.

Not a popular opinion, I've no doubt that it does great things for local charities but exhibition golf does nothing for me or for the game in Ireland.

kirk.

None of these celebs are here to mingle with the public

Most of them barely tolerate it .Pathetic really expecting some entertainment value from celebs and pros mingling on a golf course

Pussyhands

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292321#Comment_119292321

I just can't make sense of it, how all of the top golfers are there. None of them care that much about charity. And if they did, they could make as much if not more for charity through their own initiatives.

It just can't be what it appears to be, it's too good to be true...

GandhiwasfromBallyfermot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119291889#Comment_119291889

Please tell me there is a video of this. I would pay to see the Smurfits duff and shank it around playing with Tiger.

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292460#Comment_119292460

Was on TV!

The Big Easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292339#Comment_119292339

And I had a post deleted, make sure to doff your cap to elite as you go around 😉

PokeHerKing

You'd want to be naive bordering on dumb to not see it as a quid pro quo.

No appearance fee allows JP to promote the full charity side of the event. The players get to have a billionaire business mogul owe them a favour. Everyone wins.

I could care less really, I just wish the Irish Open could have tapped into a similar field.

Motivator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292423#Comment_119292423

If the whatever it is, 50?, professionals playing is hazard a guess and say 40 of them are involved with charities or foundations so you’d be wrong there. To be fair they give plenty of money to charitable causes, especially the US based players, whether they want to or not. I believe there could be tax breaks for charitable foundations/trusts etc. for the mega wealthy which is what these guys are.

The smurfit clan absolutely do my head in. Someone mentioned Succession earlier and that’s exactly what they’re like. Leeching off their old fella. Sharon Smurfit never worked a day in her life and if you look at her Twitter you’d swear she was an ambassador to Ireland. People telling her how great she is and how lucky she is to be playing with Tiger. Lucky indeed because she wouldn’t be in this position if she had to do it off her own back.

slave1

Would be interesting to see the eventual money "raised", did I not hear €50m from the last one. We're not talking small bucks here and it all stays in this country so let them hack up a course I'll never get to play and have a jolly so future health needs are looked after...

Pussyhands

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292652#Comment_119292652

That's just for the image though. Their improved image gets them more sponsors etc. Corporate Social Responsibility it's called in the business world, it's marketing.

I think if someone arranged a charity pro am like this they wouldn't be as keen to all play at it.

It just seems too good to be true that it's all out of the goodness of their hearts that all the top golfers are there.

Hooked

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292710#Comment_119292710

"It just seems too good to be true that it's all out of the goodness of their hearts that all the top golfers are there."

It ain't... It's all over the news today (thanks in part to Pat Perez' plastic influencer wife) that the WAGS are given a 10,000 euro gift card to shop in the Manor or Adare Village AND she had pics of he Breitling? watch ('one hell of a welcome gift'). Plus being fed and watered at the Manor... Money follows money!

Shur, look at Bill Murray being flown to Dublin for Limerick VS Galway... and he wearing a RARE Limerick jersey WITH the Adare Manor logo on the front! These celebs and golfers just love being pampered by a billionaire! Everybody wins.

And I ain't bitter FYI - I'm a Limerick man - and I love what JP does for the county!

Man Vs ManUre

Is Greg from Love Island playing??

Mantis Toboggan

What happened Schauffele?

Denny61

Jp is a fantastic human being..his wealth supposed to be 2.3 billion .the man could easily hide himself and his money in Barbados and live life away from the maddening world. But no he is sharing his wealth .creating employment. Putting feel good factor in to people's lives ..can each county have one please..and forget about a government. Jst disband it

BrianD3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292789#Comment_119292789

10k vouchers and Breitling watches are small change for a WAG of a top pro golfer. And in any case, these women will do what they are told - no way would any of these pros be playing in this event so the wife could go on a shopping spree and be pampered. There has to be much more to their attendance than that.

kirk.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292887#Comment_119292887

https://youtu.be/iYcBT7Edt4E?t=3184

Maybe

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119292947#Comment_119292947

Maybe not Barbados but I'm sure he's happy enough with Switzerland!

Break80

Jeez the begrudgery on here is mad stuff.

I presume the only free golf is for the pros, someone had to stump up the 150k to have a team in the pro am irrespective if it's daddy's money or company money it's still going to charities.

Let's look at it for what it is, a chance to have a good day, get close to your idols in a relaxed fun environment.

I know there will be benefits for the pros and JP down the road but we will never be in a position to raise that kind of cash so fair dues to all involved.

It's the way things work when you move in these circles I would guess.

PARlance

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119293057#Comment_119293057

Begrudgery probably putting it very lightly. Lies and hate a bit more apt, crazy stuff.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

what beach was shown there on the TV coverage? it looked like lahinch, no?

Xander10

Has anyone bothered watching it today?

After the first couple of hours yesterday I pretty much tuned out since. Novelty worn off.

Ps I do appreciate that being there following the top pros would be a different story.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119291228#Comment_119291228

Its going to need a bit of work to get it ready for the Ryder Cup.

Rough will need to be seriously grown.

Its going to need alot of grandstands as its a not a good viewing course.

Alot of the greens are raised plateus so its hard to see the hole and putts.

Traffic was very light again this morning, parked in the village and walked onto the course through the pedestrian entrance in the village, which is very quaint.

Came away around 3 , my legs are like stumps from all the walking ,9 hours on feet yesterday, 4.5 today.

ElisaAtWar

Why no Darren Clarke?

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119294534#Comment_119294534

You should have hopped a ride in Tiger's buggy😀

Re the course, I think them changes will be made to the set up. Money won't be an issue.

mcburns07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119294534#Comment_119294534

Really difficult to view anything alright unless you're right behind the barrier and in an elevated position. Is there any other major events planned for the course between now and 27?

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119294727#Comment_119294727

Funny you say that, I came across a deserted buggy yesterday afternoon and was half tempted to hop in and drive off, should have brought the high vis jacket.

Degag

Any idea who is caddying for Tiger?

ElisaAtWar

Harrington is playing really decent going into the Open. Might be worth a bet

Degag

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119295000#Comment_119295000

Also, any idea where everyone is staying? Only 104 rooms in the resort by all accounts.