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Clipex Fence

  • 25-01-2018 4:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭


    All, looking to fence around the house and garden, in sheep country and i'm not really a fan of post and rail, so was wondering what people think of the clipex fence system, was going to use sheep wire with two strands of plain wire on top??
    I have about 200mtr or so to do and about 6 corner posts and a gate?

    what would you recommend?

    thanks in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭adam14


    jmrc wrote: »
    All, looking to fence around the house and garden, in sheep country and i'm not really a fan of post and rail, so was wondering what people think of the clipex fence system, was going to use sheep wire with two strands of plain wire on top??
    I have about 200mtr or so to do and about 6 corner posts and a gate?

    what would you recommend?


    thanks in advance

    I have clipex here and highly recommend it. Job for life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    There's a thread in the Sheep forum on this as well, but it's deals mainly with the sheep clipex fencing.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=102387963


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Seen at tullamorr show and very impressed. Will be using here for the next bit of fencing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    jmrc wrote: »
    All, looking to fence around the house and garden, in sheep country and i'm not really a fan of post and rail, so was wondering what people think of the clipex fence system, was going to use sheep wire with two strands of plain wire on top??
    I have about 200mtr or so to do and about 6 corner posts and a gate?

    what would you recommend?

    thanks in advance

    Personally I don't like the look of it.
    Very harsh/industrial looking, so I wouldn't like it around house/garden.

    No doubt it is a solid and permanent fence - but the galvinized steel doesn't blend in well with the landscape
    ....but maybe you could paint it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭adam14


    Neddyusa wrote: »
    Personally I don't like the look of it.
    Very harsh/industrial looking, so I wouldn't like it around house/garden.

    No doubt it is a solid and permanent fence - but the galvinized steel doesn't blend in well with the landscape
    ....but maybe you could paint it!!

    You can't see it unless very close up. It blends in quite well as you don't see the posts. Posts are very narrow and far from industrial looking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭jmrc


    Thanks all. think i'll go with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    How much are the posts in comparison to timber? What's the story with strainers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Another option my brother put around his house is the Gallagher eco post. 4 Strand of Electric wire threaded through. Looks well and does not create much of a visual barrier but is effective.

    To install we did concrete them in... used Quick setting actually.

    Only down side to them is they dont like a curve and will bend with a tensioned wire.

    https://www.gallagher.eu/en_nl/electric-fencing/posts/eco-post-1-50m-pack-of-4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    C0N0R wrote: »
    How much are the posts in comparison to timber? What's the story with strainers?

    I can't remember prices l was quoted off hand, but l do remember thinking they were much of a muchness to timber post prices. They are the way to go. They do have strainers and struts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭susign


    The'yre around same price as good creosote steaks but its a personal choice as to which is best. I prefer the clipex, they give a 30 yr guarantee but im not wishing my life away to see if they last that or longer.

    I've bought hundreds of them over the past year and buying more this week. So easy put them up and transport, can buy 200 clipex on 1 pallet and no need to buy a tractor driven post driver.

    I find that making a small pilot hole with a crowbar before driving them with the hand pounder helps keep them streight and looking better. Get the proper clipex pounder or protective sleeve from your supplier (if driving with a sledge). Otherwise you'll damage the post and top strand of wire wont clip in

    I put concrete around ordinary steel tube for the end posts and on turns to make sure the wire stays standing for decades. Clipex end-posts are nice and galvanised but outside my budget as i have the whole farm that needs new fencing. If only doing a small job you would be best use the standard clipex end posts as it avoids need to weld support struts and painting them.

    Good luck with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭gooner99


    Hi.

    OP did you go the clippex route?

    Does anyone have any pictures of their finished clippex fencing project?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭foxirl


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Hi.

    OP did you go the clippex route?

    Does anyone have any pictures of their finished clippex fencing project?

    One I put up last September.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭gooner99


    foxirl wrote: »
    One I put up last September.

    Cheers. Not sure if you meant to add a picture.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Used it on a site that was beside land we bought lately.used concrete posts for the ends but clipex on the run as the ground was light and would have meant breaking holes for concrete posts wth a breaker.real fast to put up and doing its job so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    How did u drive them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭foxirl


    foxirl wrote: »
    One I put up last September.
    Sorry, pic didn't upload.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Muckit wrote: »
    How did u drive them?
    Hand post driver ,small bit damage to the top


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Looks like a fine job, Fox, how many meter intervals do you drive the posts ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭foxirl


    Looks like a fine job, Fox, how many meter intervals do you drive the posts ?
    Think it was about 4.5m. Drove a bigger post every 5th or 6th post. The lighter posts were driven using the drive sleeve. Basically a cylinder pipe with a cap on it. Very easy to drive but works up a sweat. The bigger posts "beefy posts" were driven with a sledge but had a cap on the post so didn't damage them. Still need to add a row of barbed wire on top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭jmrc


    looks good. still havent fenced mine yet....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Aravo


    Are many using the clipex fencing. If I'm tams approved for sheep fencing timber posts can I change to clipex. Also can you use clipex on gentle bends or is it best to use the clipex on straight runs only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭Box09


    You can go with whichever product you like for fencing. However the clipex will cost more than the max grant rate. I have it on straight runs only and it is fantastic. I would imagine small bends would work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Aravo wrote: »
    Are many using the clipex fencing. If I'm tams approved for sheep fencing timber posts can I change to clipex. Also can you use clipex on gentle bends or is it best to use the clipex on straight runs only.

    A lad said that its the same price as normal stakes at the start but that when its put up they charge vat etc which makes it dear. Think he had people putting it up for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    A lad said that its the same price as normal stakes at the start but that when its put up they charge vat etc which makes it dear. Think he had people putting it up for him

    I'm pretty sure you can claim the vat back on fencing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Aravo


    Bullocks wrote:
    I'm pretty sure you can claim the vat back on fencing.


    Yes you can.

    Would the clipex be ok for both good and softish ground or should it be for good ground only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Bullocks wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure you can claim the vat back on fencing.

    He thought he was getting vat back on the 5000 he paid whereas the 5000 was +vat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    He thought he was getting vat back on the 5000 he paid whereas the 5000 was +vat

    I would always ask is it plus VAT or inclusive especially on a big amount of money like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Aravo


    Bullocks wrote:
    I would always ask is it plus VAT or inclusive especially on a big amount of money like that


    Yes you have to ask. I know a lad who got timber quotes for a large new house of 2 local hardware stores. One was written and the other matched verbally. So both were roughly the same price so he went with the verbal one and the other store had supplied a lot up to that date so it was spreading the love or so he thought. All was ok until the invoice arrived. It was the quote plus VAT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭gooner99


    Anyone go with clipex around their house yet.?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 paddy 83


    I never post reviews but i have made an exception for this company. I'll start off with why you should absolutely not use this product and move on to my own experience. The first major problem is the clip that takes the insulator has China written all over it. When you drive the post with the post driver Clipex provides you it will bend the clip to where you cannot then insert the insulator. It has a shabby piece of metal on a tiny little spring (useless). I only drove 20 or so in my field and to my horror the next morning the field was lit up like a christmas tree. The sunshine reflects off the galvanise and this doesn't go away. A year on there still shining in the field totally unnatural and blinding. Thank god I didn’t drive the 300 of them I’d have to get sunglasses for my cows. This must also be due to the cheap galvanizing when produced in China. In the field where I drove these posts it's not level. So if you could imagine when I strained the wire from the starting post the clipex posts driven in a dip will eventually come straight up as it has not enough substance to grab. The only thing going for these posts is their fast to drive. If your stupid enough like me and need a big quantaty of fencing posts just order one. From a first glance you’ll throw it in the bin.
    My Story
    I ordered 300 of these posts and insulators from Clipex Ireland. They arrived in a timely fashion and this was the first and only thing constructive I can say for Clipex. I was in a hurry trying to prepare a field as cattle needed moving so I went straight to work. The very first post I drove it bent the clip at the top which rendered the post useless as now it could not take the plastic insulator. Thinking it was an unlucky first I drove the next and the same result. I rang the company and the lady said she would send the owner of the company to the farm to inspect. I had to drive 20 odd more posts to get the field wired up but had to put the insulators in the second insert middle ways down the post as every post I drove the top bent. Three days later the owner from Co Clare landed at my property.
    This is when things went downhill fast My god I’ll never forget him. The first thing you must experience is his appalling language on top of a very low IQ. After a few F this and F thats he then produced a petrol impact driver and started banging these posts into the garden of my house. One after another bending the top of each post as he went. Seven posts later he finally turned off the post driver gave a few more F this’s and just left. As it turned out all the products in their warehouse were like this and it was going to take months to have the product redesigned and shipped to ireland. I needed posts in a hurry. I saw these as seconds and offered to take another batch and no need for a refund. I figured I might be able to bend back the clip after driving and maybe able to then install the insulator. This is when I was told to get Fu@#ed by the owner over the phone. I told the lady in reception to have a currier come around and pick up their posts and demanded a full refund. A few days later while working in the farm shed I heard all this banging. To my horror the owner and another man were loading up my posts. I was parked at the back of the farm and he was under the impression nobody was at home. I watched from my kitchen window as the two loaded their trailer as fast as they could. I rang the guards and luckily they just showed up as they were driving out the gate. They put back the posts a left. Due to coronavirus the guards were too busy to do a proper investigation and described it as a civil matter. To make a long story short after many months of emails from different departments in Europe I had to negotiate with the owner from Australia. This guy though the head man in Ireland was ledgent and defended him and his product. I finally got my money back twenty days short of a year. I couldn't post this till I was reimbursed and delighted to do so today. Hopefully I can prevent others enduring the same nightmare I had. Stay away from this product and stay away from this company.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    So you werent happy with the posts but you wanted to take more for free.its 5 years since i used them and still happy with them.hilly place with dips and hills but no post moved and no problem driving them.just my experience


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 paddy 83


    My dear man the only thing free in life is the air we breathe. I payed full price for second’s posts. To me they were worth less than half price for all the above reasons. If you offered me this product at half price today I’d say no. So what was I getting for free?? The owner is also a fencing contractor and he told me he was going to use this rubbish on some other poor suckers farm claiming he had a knack for driving them without bending the top. God forbid you have to move a fence in the future only then would you realize the lack of quality in this Chinese crap. I’m assuming your working for them as they too used the free terminology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I found them great and easy to use. You are not meant to drive them with the pipe they supply, it's a protective sleeve to use with a normal post driver. I'd no issue with damaging top clips but could see how you would if driving them with their sleeve.

    I'd have no issue recommending them to anyone, their straining post don't budge and there is no need for a tractor post driver, you'd put up a lot of fence in a day by yourself with this system and can fit a lot of posts in the back of a jeep or transport box. But I guess each to their own.

    But they are a bit shiny...... I like shiny though :D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    paddy 83 wrote: »
    My dear man the only thing free in life is the air we breathe. I payed full price for second’s posts. To me they were worth less than half price for all the above reasons. If you offered me this product at half price today I’d say no. So what was I getting for free?? The owner is also a fencing contractor and he told me he was going to use this rubbish on some other poor suckers farm claiming he had a knack for driving them without bending the top. God forbid you have to move a fence in the future only then would you realize the lack of quality in this Chinese crap. I’m assuming your working for them as they too used the free terminology.

    "I saw these as seconds and offered to take another batch instead of a refund".anyway i ll stop now because some how i think id be wasting my time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 paddy 83


    “Ill like shiny things”
    That’s like someone a simpleton would say. You must be working for them 😂

    Anyway I’ll just reiterate from my main post. If your thinking of buying these posts just buy one first. Before you drive in into the ground to see the top bend ask yourself would you like this to replace your traditional posts on your farm? Ask yourself do you like the galvanized bar with the little Chinese spring and if your answer is yes then go for it. In the great works of Greg Judy “stay away from metal posts. Best thing to earth a fence”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭emaherx


    paddy 83 wrote: »
    “Ill like shiny things”
    That’s like someone a simpleton would say. You must be working for them 😂

    Anyway I’ll just reiterate from my main post. If your thinking of buying these posts just buy one first. Before you drive in into the ground to see the top bend ask yourself would you like this to replace your traditional posts on your farm? Ask yourself do you like the galvanized bar with the little Chinese spring and if your answer is yes then go for it. In the great works of Greg Judy “stay away from metal posts. Best thing to earth a fence”

    Wow third post and you have resorted to name calling. Good luck, I think everyone gets you don't like Clipex especially since you opened an account on boards.ie especially to voice that. But not everyone who disagrees with you is either a simpleton or working for the company you hate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    I forgot to post on Farm Sayings

    "A bad workman always blames his tools"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,717 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I forgot to post on Farm Sayings

    "A bad workman always blames his tools"

    Am ass is an ass, big ears or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    I've driven more than 200 of these in the last 5 years, I bent 1 of the clips I think, find them brilliant for single strand electric fence, so quick to install and good as new 5 years on..granted they are a bit shiny but I'd rather that that be starting into replacing timber 1s now.. The original version didn't have the Chinese clip you talk about and about 10 insulators went missing, we put it down to cattle scratching because the shock wasn't great in the fence..

    The only weakness I might see in them is straining wire around turns in fields, but I think they have a stronger stake for that and also a strainer system which I believe is good but haven't used yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭Westernrock


    He’d bend a crowbar in a bog....
    I have 340 of them down for sheep wire with a strand of electric on top of them with the insulators. Would happily recommend them, easy to drive quick to attach the wire, the insulators can take a small bit of force to put in but I actually liked that because they are tight on the post then. I drove some of mine with a manual post driver over the drive sleeve no bother, but then I got lazy and drove some of them with the loader with the drive sleeve on them and in the end I didn’t even use the drive sleeve unless I had to tap them in rather than just push them down. Didn’t bend any clips or posts, out of the 340 posts I had to move maybe half a dozen to avoid stones as there is only about a foot of soil before hitting gravel here but that was as much bother as I had!

    And I have no association with the company or the product before you get ideas!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Put down 50 of clipex sheep posts earlier in the year. Happy enough with them. Only issue is when I hit stones the clipex post goes abit crocked and I'd to take out and drive again a few inches away. Dont know how they'll be longterm, but I cannt see nothing that would prevent them lasting the claimed 30yrs. Tempted to try the hexagon timber stakes in comparison as they might look nicer on the eye. But either way, the object is to have something that will last and doesnt need to be redone every few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    I’d imagine the contractors would prefer wooden posts in case they would end up going through a machine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭einn32


    In Australia they use 'star pickets' mostly when fencing. They look similar to these clipex but are black in colour. They are everywhere so they must be good! We used to drive them with a pneumatic post driver. They fence was strained off decent timber posts set in concrete.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭thetiredfarmer


    emaherx wrote: »
    I found them great and easy to use. You are not meant to drive them with the pipe they supply, it's a protective sleeve to use with a normal post driver. I'd no issue with damaging top clips but could see how you would if driving them with their sleeve.

    I'd have no issue recommending them to anyone, their straining post don't budge and there is no need for a tractor post driver, you'd put up a lot of fence in a day by yourself with this system and can fit a lot of posts in the back of a jeep or transport box. But I guess each to their own.

    But they are a bit shiny...... I like shiny though :D

    I got my first batch of clipex today. Looking forward to the "shiny things":)
    Did you put up any of the "Beefy Posts" for straining the wire ?
    how did you drive them ? Is there a sleeve for driving them too?
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I see there is an eco 2 clip post ,the standard 2 clip post and also a beefy post .The eco post comes cheaper bur would it be suitable for a permanent fence with standard posts also every second one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭richie123


    The standard of galvaniseing these days especially on lighter steel is extremely poor these clipex posts will come no where near 30 years.i think it's a poor quality fence that won't stand the test of time.
    If an animal puts it's head up against the base of a clipex post it'll bend.
    A decent Scandinavian cresoted stake drove properly with a proper postdriver will go nowhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I got my first batch of clipex today. Looking forward to the "shiny things":)
    Did you put up any of the "Beefy Posts" for straining the wire ?
    how did you drive them ? Is there a sleeve for driving them too?
    Thanks.

    This is one of my Beefy posts with straining kit, it hasn't budged since I put it up 18 months ago.

    46857372705_fac62786e0_c.jpgIMG_20190504_165702 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr
    cute geoge wrote: »
    I see there is an eco 2 clip post ,the standard 2 clip post and also a beefy post .The eco post comes cheaper bur would it be suitable for a permanent fence with standard posts also every second one

    I'd say it depends on how straight your fence is, in a straight fence the strainers take most of the pressure the posts in between just keep the wire up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    richie123 wrote: »
    The standard of galvaniseing these days especially on lighter steel is extremely poor these clipex posts will come no where near 30 years.i think it's a poor quality fence that won't stand the test of time.
    If an animal puts it's head up against the base of a clipex post it'll bend.
    A decent Scandinavian cresoted stake drove properly with a proper postdriver will go nowhere.

    Only time will tell. I'm a sheep man, so none of my animals will bend any clipex posts here. Any recommendations to where youd source Scandinavian posts around munster ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭hopeso


    Only time will tell. I'm a sheep man, so none of my animals will bend any clipex posts here. Any recommendations to where youd source Scandinavian posts around munster ?

    http://www.mcnamarafencing.ie/agri-animal/mcnamara-duraposts/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭susign


    emaherx wrote: »
    Wow third post and you have resorted to name calling. Good luck, I think everyone gets you don't like Clipex especially since you opened an account on boards.ie especially to voice that. But not everyone who disagrees with you is either a simpleton or working for the company you hate.

    Exactly my thoughts


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