Unwanted callers

DJ98

What do people make of people calling to there yard selling items for the farm ie gates etc have had a few recently and they can be very persuasive or have a lack of understanding for the word no, insisting on buying what they are selling, just wondering how do others deal with these type of salesmen?

endacl

Step 1: 'No'.
Step 2: Ignore.
Step 3: Repeat step 2.

DJ98

endacl wrote: »

Step 1: 'No'.
Step 2: Ignore.
Step 3: Repeat step 2.

I usually follow the above steps but they don't always seem to understand

SEPT 23 1989

Mod snip...... Illegal stuff is illegal, even insinuating the use of illegal stuff is contrary to our charter. Let's keep this discussion on track as it's an easy subject to get bogged down in. Thanks. GC

ganmo

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

SNIP

Never take out a snip until you are going to use it...not threaten to use it

Op a closed gate is a huge deterrent some of those lads are shocking lazy

DJ98

ganmo wrote: »

Never take out a snip until you are going to use it...not threaten to use it

Op a closed gate is a huge deterrent some of those lads are shocking lazy

You would not want to be taking out a SNIP, sounds very extreme and only opening a whole other can of worms

Mooooo

A cranky demeaner works a lot of the time, just say no and walk away, I used to get away with saying the boss isn't here but not so much anymore.

flossy1

A good big dog.

patsy_mccabe

Try and sell them something like an old shovel. Confuse the he'll outta them.......

Noveight

A neighbour (bachelor farmer, mid 70's) had a man in a Hiace call three times offering to tar his front yard. On the third visit he told him to wait a minute as he had a pan on the range, returned back out with the shotgun broken in the crook of his arm. Didn't raise it or even mention it, just held it and let it be seen.

That put a finish to the visits.

PeterCasey

Its gone to the stage where you need your gate going into your closed and have a dog they don't like getting out when they shouldn't . You just don't entertain these lads once they get you talking they have you.

Snowfire

first things do is pull out my phone and take a pic of the van, reg , driver. I don’t even do it discreetly anymore. Then “NO NO NO, not interested “

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

You lads have legal firearms something us city dwellers lack to deal with that problem

Because nobody in Dublin has a legally held firearm :rolleyes:

It's about the dumbest piece of advice one could possibly give.

ganmo

Roberto Skinny Prizefighter wrote: »

Because nobody in Dublin has a legally held firearm :rolleyes:

It's about the dumbest piece of advice one could possibly give.

There's a pretty flashy gun shop in tallaght of all places

foxy farmer

Anyone have to deal with the frozen food salesmen?Had a few of them around here. All oddballs. I had to threaten one clown with the guards after he spent over 2 hrs sitting in the yard, left and returned at 9.00 that night.

blue5000

Mod note Folks I know this is a sensitive and emotive subject in rural Ireland, but try keep it civil, thanks.

What works for me is a sign saying video security camera in operation, a dog, keep the road gate closed.

1874

foxy farmer wrote: »

Anyone have to deal with the frozen food salesmen?Had a few of them around here. All oddballs. I had to threaten one clown with the guards after he spent over 2 hrs sitting in the yard, left and returned at 9.00 that night.

Someone parked up in your yard for 2hours, how come you ddnt move him on immediately and why and for what reason did he return?
Id be taking pictures and telling them to move on, a refusal is then trespassing surely.

foxy farmer

1874 wrote: »

Someone parked up in your yard for 2hours, how come you ddnt move him on immediately and why and for what reason did he return?
Id be taking pictures and telling them to move on, a refusal is then trespassing surely.

Just to annoy the bo11ox. Was watching him the whole time. He had become a nuisance, calling every 2 months.

jimini0

We have text alert in our area. So when they call just take out my phone and pretend to read the text alert in front of him. " klo red transit van acting suspiciously in the ****** area. Contact ******* garda station". They don't normally wait after that

whelan2

foxy farmer wrote: »

Just to annoy the bo11ox. Was watching him the whole time. He had become a nuisance, calling every 2 months.

Was it Heav€&(y foods. Oh had to run them from here. I am lucky enough in that if they dont know me they ask for the bossman and I just say he's not here. Otherwise I just say no and walk into the house. Slam door.

visatorro

181 registered van selling lights here the other day. Must be plenty buying off them.

foxy farmer

visatorro wrote: »

181 registered van selling lights here the other day. Must be plenty buying off them.

Was in a neighbours yard just before Christmas when a 171 transit called. Apparently he had
"Fine big bright LED lights for the yard sir"
Luckily there already were fine big lights at every corner and over every door. No sale there so had to go on his merry way.

DJ98

foxy farmer wrote: »

Was in a neighbours yard just before Christmas when a 171 transit called. Apparently he had
"Fine big bright LED lights for the yard sir"
Luckily there already were fine big lights at every corner and over every door. No sale there so had to go on his merry way.

Had them too but was told "these lights are better and sure if the boss was around he might want a few!" No thanks I'm grand, "These are great lights sir and not too expensive, great security around the place" he said!

Kevhog1988

a lot of robberys around us at home lately.  We have a text alert scheme etc at the moment that i must get put onto.  dont have many traveling salesmen calling to us thank god.

Doctors room ghost

Ye are too soft on them lads.you want to stop them the second they open their mouth and run them off up the road.dont in any way entertain their talk.they prey on the elderly and people who are afraid to say no.if the stuff they are selling isn’t stolen it’s China’s cheapest sh1te and you will never get a bargain from these salesmen as they call themselves.
Shut them down the second they start talking and be as thick and ignorant with them as possible.and don’t answer any questions either.when they get a firm no they usually follow up with a “is the boss around the farm back the road sir.in no uncertain terms rev up and fcuk off with them.
If ever anyone approaches you selling their sh1te and you didn’t approach them with the intention of buying anything it’s a scam and a load of sh1te.

patsy_mccabe

Had a guy stop here yesterday in a van. Funny but the minute I spotted him, I knew he was genuine. A farmer down from Galway looking for a local business that fixes electric fencers. Ended up talking about the shortage of silage and the bad weather.
He was looking for someone for directions so very thankful to get them and I was glad to help him. We're very near the road so if I had all the security in place etc, I would never had met him. Sad that we are becoming a society like that.

cuculainn

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Had a guy stop here yesterday in a van. Funny but the minute I spotted him, I knew he was genuine. A farmer down from Galway looking for a local business that fixes electric fencers. Ended up talking about the shortage of silage and the bad weather.
He was looking for someone for directions so very thankful to get them and I was glad to help him. We're very near the road so if I had all the security in place etc, I would never had met him. Sad that we are becoming a society like that.

dont want to derail the thread, but would you be able to PM where the guy who fixes electric fences is!

thanks

P.S. i actually find the guys selling the frozen food are harder to get rid of than the crew selling gates/tools etc

Czhornet

Neighbour of mine had a call one day from an undesirable van sales man selling all sorts of sh1te and if he didn't have it he could get for him, anyway when he was talking to the neighbour, the neighbour said he never once looked at him when he was talking to him, but looking all around to see what was in the place and what the neighbour had that was visible in the yard.
Eventually he shook him off after saying 20 times that he didn't want anything and the "salesman" said what about the lad next door (me)?
The neighbour said i was a retired detective (i am not any of this) and would love for him to call as he (me) does DIY and wants tools! The white van man took off out the gate and never came back!!!

Buford T. Justice XIX

cuculainn wrote: »

dont want to derail the thread, but would you be able to PM where the guy who fixes electric fences is!

thanks

P.S. i actually find the guys selling the frozen food are harder to get rid of than the crew selling gates/tools etc

Stradbally farm services in Laois fix fencers. I have one with them atm.

http://stradballyfarmservices.com/

foxy farmer

I met a lad not too far from me in local filling station a few yrs back. Said he called a few days earlier but I was out. If it was the pope that called I wouldn't have got a bigger shock.
I came home and spent that evening and the next day engineering a platform in the shed to carry the diesel tank. Tank was outside and locked but wasn't going to take the chance.
Guaranteed to be raided. The visit to my yard was a reconnaissance mission. A few of his family were caught red handed pumping green diesel in a yard around 2am in a yard one night.

Donegalforever

DJ98 wrote: »

What do people make of people calling to there yard selling items for the farm ie gates etc have had a few recently and they can be very persuasive or have a lack of understanding for the word no, insisting on buying what they are selling, just wondering how do others deal with these type of salesmen?

Are you by chance referring to "members of the travelling community" ?

I have had visits from them in the past and they definitely don't know what the word No means.

Ard_MC

3 dogs here.. only 1 you need to watch but they dont know that!

Cattlepen

Ard_MC wrote: »

3 dogs here.. only 1 you need to watch but they dont know that!

Watch they don’t rob your “dags”

John_Rambo

flossy1 wrote: »

A good big dog.

We took two large, aggresive American Bulldogs (google them) on to our own land (youth/community sports club land in Dublin's inner city) to try and convince unwelcome visitors to move along. The dogs were straining at the leads, growling, frothing and barking.

Visitor: "will that dag bite?"

Me: "yes, they're aggressive and trained to protect their owners and land"

Visitor: "Are those dags nasty?"

Me: "yep, they're vicious and strong, they'll overpower you"

Visitor: "I'll give you ninty pound for the two of them"

I swear the dogs stopped barking and looked at each other.

PeterCasey

Back in the eighties Grand dad gran rang Dad to say people called to the house they went to one of the out houses they opened the door two allsations came out they scrambled to get to the van getting away didn't one of the dogs bite the valve they kept going we meet them on the road you could see the sparks coming off the rim they were petrified when they were stopped .

_Brian

These callers are scared of CCTV and being recorded. Some signs up are a good deterrent.

Mf310

visatorro wrote:

181 registered van selling lights here the other day. Must be plenty buying off them.

Had a lad in 181 landcruiser trying to sell lights here last tuesday i tried to ignore him but he pulled up and was beeping horn . 2 floodlights for 200€ i said no then he dropped to 2 for 100 very persuasive wasnt taking no for an answer was saying the size of the place here and i wouldnt give a lad a bit of business and then he took out his wad of notes and cheques from other lads ... was talking to another farmer then yesterday 30 mile away and he had the same man last week .. covering serious ground

demanufactured

Mf310 wrote: »

Had a lad in 181 landcruiser trying to sell lights here last tuesday i tried to ignore him but he pulled up and was beeping horn . 2 floodlights for 200€ i said no then he dropped to 2 for 100 very persuasive wasnt taking no for an answer was saying the size of the place here and i wouldnt give a lad a bit of business and then he took out his wad of notes and cheques from other lads ... was talking to another farmer then yesterday 30 mile away and he had the same man last week .. covering serious ground

Cancer to society.

freshpopcorn

Hi, I never really post in the forum but I saw the thread don't know if it's relevant. It's a story that was in my local newspaper last week.
An older man was home alone and a man dressed in pointed dress shoes knocked at the door and said I'm very sorry I ran over you cat and the man said sorry but both my cats are sitting by the fire. The man then went on to try and sell stuff to the elderly man.
It's just one of these ruses that would really get you away from the door and ye might let people know about. It could be very easy to fall for.

When ever these men call to us there always in very shiny brown/black shoes!

cycle4fun

I feel sorry for older vulnerable farmers. I had a lad in a van who called to the farmyard trying to sell me a fireplace once, I did not need one but he was a bit aggressive and I was glad to see the end of him. Must have been robbed out of someone else's house and he wanted to offload it quickly.

demanufactured

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Hi, I never really post in the forum but I saw the thread don't know if it's relevant. It's a story that was in my local newspaper last week.
An older man was home alone and a man dressed in pointed dress shoes knocked at the door and said I'm very sorry I ran over you cat and the man said sorry but both my cats are sitting by the fire. The man then went on to try and sell stuff to the elderly man.
It's just one of these ruses that would really get you away from the door and ye might let people know about. It could be very easy to fall for.

When ever these men call to us there always in very shiny brown/black shoes!

And I assume you run them off straight away.?

demanufactured

cycle4fun wrote: »

I feel sorry for older vulnerable farmers. I had a lad in a van who called to the farmyard trying to sell me a fireplace once, I did not need one but he was a bit aggressive and I was glad to see the end of him. Must have been robbed out of someone else's house and he wanted to offload it quickly.

He wouldn't have gotten far... He'd be ran.

freshpopcorn

demanufactured wrote: »

And I assume you run them off straight away.?

Yes, my mother would have always being the same. Years ago my father used entertain them a little but he doesn't even do it now.

whisky_galore

Anything these guys sell you can get better quality, possibly cheaper AND a receipt if things go wrong in a bricks and mortar shop or online.

There's no good reason to entertain lads selling stuff door to door in this day and age. It's not the 1950's ffs.

Figerty

whisky_galore wrote: »

Anything these guys sell you can get better quality, possibly cheaper AND a receipt if things go wrong in a bricks and mortar shop or online.

There's no good reason to entertain lads selling stuff door to door in this day and age. It's not the 1950's ffs.

Had a guy call selling 'top quailty gates' lately, The didn't look bad at all. I told him I buy them from the local supplier, get receipts for the farm accounts..

His answer,, 'Oh so you only buy legit.(imate)'

I said yea. He left.

farawaygrass

Mf310 wrote: »

Had a lad in 181 landcruiser trying to sell lights here last tuesday i tried to ignore him but he pulled up and was beeping horn . 2 floodlights for 200€ i said no then he dropped to 2 for 100 very persuasive wasnt taking no for an answer was saying the size of the place here and i wouldnt give a lad a bit of business and then he took out his wad of notes and cheques from other lads ... was talking to another farmer then yesterday 30 mile away and he had the same man last week .. covering serious ground

He was in Galway too. Paints sheds too

emaherx

Ard_MC wrote: »

3 dogs here.. only 1 you need to watch but they dont know that!

Last time we were robbed, the dog was found dead that morning before we even realized anything was missing. Wouldn't mind but she was locked up in her run and didn't have access to the yard.( But she was fond of barking at anything that moved)

Willfarman

I'd take out my snip and snip the snip! No I wouldn't. A trick I've learned is to pull on their superstitious nature. The have an awful fear of intellectually challenged. So I turn one foot sideways limp over to drivers window while drooling! Bless myself look to the sky and ask the occupants do they hear de crows.. shooting the ffers night and day and they torments me with their screaming..

Well truthfully I only did it once and I signed a little cross on the wing mirror too. They left rapidly!

Doctors room ghost

Had a lad here last year selling pots and pans out of the boot of a brand new golf.white socks pointy black shoes and the rosary beads on the rear view mirror.thank god says I I’m pure sick of cooking my dinner in a hole in the ground using water and hot stones from an open fire.
I told him I wasn’t buying anything and I hadn’t time for his sh1te.que the questions and answers session.is there anyone living next door up the road?just keep answering dont know to everything and they soon give up the chase.
Vultures picking at the belly of normal decent society they are.

Dakota Dan

foxy farmer wrote: »

Anyone have to deal with the frozen food salesmen?Had a few of them around here. All oddballs. I had to threaten one clown with the guards after he spent over 2 hrs sitting in the yard, left and returned at 9.00 that night.

Did you purchase off him once? That usually makes them come back. I had a man here selling fish a farmer no less and had the misfortune of buying off him once, he had me timed coming home after collecting the children from school and was very slow to take no for an answer.

Dakota Dan

Noveight wrote: »

A neighbour (bachelor farmer, mid 70's) had a man in a Hiace call three times offering to tar his front yard. On the third visit he told him to wait a minute as he had a pan on the range, returned back out with the shotgun broken in the crook of his arm. Didn't raise it or even mention it, just held it and let it be seen.

That put a finish to the visits.

He was lucky as there is usually a few in the van, a man around here produced the shotgun one time and they took it off him and gave him a clatter across the head with it.