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Jordan Peterson interview on C4
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mcmoustache wrote: »I don't have much of an issue with Mr Peterson. He's just a guy who makes his money giving talks to a certain demographic. Like that Sarkesian one, he speaks a certain kind of pseudo intellectualism that appeals to his audience but isn't convincing to the more well rounded.
My biggest problem with him is that when I watch a video of his on youtube, my suggestions turn into this weird concoction of alt-right talking heads and conspiracy theories involving Jews. I'm guessing that google's algorithm has found a large overlap between people who watch his videos and people who watch those stupid conspiracy theory videos.
I got bored of him, generally, but I watched a couple of interviews of him recently and enjoyed them. The clip on his beef eating was taken from a bigger interview with Helen Lewis. It is a good interview, very combative out of the traps. I think he expresses himself very well - not pseudo-intellectually at all. She comes across as a practised mouth piece for ideology, though she maintains good composure throughout and lands an occasional blow, for which she can take credit.
The issue about people who are conspiracy or alt right types being involved somehow with him (which is untrue, in my opinion) does not so much speak about Peterson, I think, but rather about the paucity of compelling philosophers/thinkers who are prepared to go against the grain of the present post-modern social conditioning which we are experiencing. He is a voice representing an approach where there are as yet few authentic voices, that is all - that is why he ''attracts'' some certain types. There are plenty of other types who do not fall into such a category who are interested in what he has to say. The 4 chan reddit pepe alt-right types are a tiny, tiny demographic - yet are used persistently as a trope to shut down debate.
Anyways the video is here (I hope)
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I got bored of him, generally, but I watched a couple of interviews of him recently and enjoyed them. The clip on his beef eating was taken from a bigger interview with Helen Lewis. It is a good interview, very combative out of the traps. I think he expresses himself very well - not pseudo-intellectually at all. She comes across as a practised mouth piece for ideology, though she maintains good composure throughout and lands an occasional blow, for which she can take credit.
The issue about people who are conspiracy or alt right types being involved somehow with him (which is untrue, in my opinion) does not so much speak about Peterson, I think, but rather about the paucity of compelling philosophers/thinkers who are prepared to go against the grain of the present post-modern social conditioning which we are experiencing. He is a voice representing an approach where there are as yet few authentic voices, that is all - that is why he ''attracts'' some certain types. There are plenty of other types who do not fall into such a category who are interested in what he has to say. The 4 chan reddit pepe alt-right types are a tiny, tiny demographic - yet are used persistently as a trope to shut down debate.
Anyways the video is here (I hope)
I quite enjoyed that interview. I still don't agree with Peterson's world view, but he was quite collected and stuck to the point for the most part. He continually interrupted the questions though, which I found tiresome.
There were a few times his preconceptions of the interviewer got in the way and he interrupted to start answering before the question was really asked. I enjoyed that the interviewer challenged him on it and he backed down a bit.
His reputation of the "white nationalists" were good to hear. But they do like him, from what I can see. So I'm not sure the value of denying that.
I'd love to sit down and chat to him. As I've said before, I don't like his ideas but he seems like a nice man who means no one any harm.
I'd like to ask about his obsession with hierarchy and why he thinks it's fundamentally a good thing once it doesn't become tyrannical. I'd also seriously question his idea that we live in a hierarchy of competence. It's my opinion that if hierarchy needs to exist it should be ordered by competence and co-operation, but it isn't currently ordered that way. Social mobility statistics tell us that.they/them/theirs
And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek
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I got bored of him, generally, but I watched a couple of interviews of him recently and enjoyed them. The clip on his beef eating was taken from a bigger interview with Helen Lewis. It is a good interview, very combative out of the traps. I think he expresses himself very well - not pseudo-intellectually at all. She comes across as a practised mouth piece for ideology, though she maintains good composure throughout and lands an occasional blow, for which she can take credit.
The issue about people who are conspiracy or alt right types being involved somehow with him (which is untrue, in my opinion) does not so much speak about Peterson, I think, but rather about the paucity of compelling philosophers/thinkers who are prepared to go against the grain of the present post-modern social conditioning which we are experiencing. He is a voice representing an approach where there are as yet few authentic voices, that is all - that is why he ''attracts'' some certain types. There are plenty of other types who do not fall into such a category who are interested in what he has to say. The 4 chan reddit pepe alt-right types are a tiny, tiny demographic - yet are used persistently as a trope to shut down debate.
Anyways the video is here (I hope)
I would also say that the interviewer doesn't come across as a mouthpiece for an ideology at all. She bucks that trend on transgender issues for a start. She comes across as quite reasonable.they/them/theirs
And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek
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I got bored of him, generally, but I watched a couple of interviews of him recently and enjoyed them. The clip on his beef eating was taken from a bigger interview with Helen Lewis. It is a good interview, very combative out of the traps. I think he expresses himself very well - not pseudo-intellectually at all. She comes across as a practised mouth piece for ideology, though she maintains good composure throughout and lands an occasional blow, for which she can take credit.
The issue about people who are conspiracy or alt right types being involved somehow with him (which is untrue, in my opinion) does not so much speak about Peterson, I think, but rather about the paucity of compelling philosophers/thinkers who are prepared to go against the grain of the present post-modern social conditioning which we are experiencing. He is a voice representing an approach where there are as yet few authentic voices, that is all - that is why he ''attracts'' some certain types. There are plenty of other types who do not fall into such a category who are interested in what he has to say. The 4 chan reddit pepe alt-right types are a tiny, tiny demographic - yet are used persistently as a trope to shut down debate.
Anyways the video is here (I hope)
Pleasure to watch, I wouldn't really agree with him as far as the environment is concerned and overpopulation denial - but he just nails it with the whole gender gap myth and 3rd wave feminism.0 -
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:D:D 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZYQpge1W5s
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