181. Sales breakdown

GusGus

Usually someone will post the gist 7/14/21 days of sales by make and model . Have I missed this ? Anyone got them ?

Lantus

On Simi website it says 1st of Feb for the first month if 2018 data.

colm_mcm

Usually there are 7 day/ 14 day figures distributed within the trade.

Lantus

I drive 100km every day on a major road and I've seen 3 since Jan 🀔

WhatsGoingOn2

Lantus wrote: »

On Simi website it says 1st of Feb for the first month if 2018 data.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/new-car-sales-start-the-year-steady-with-1-7-increase-1.3351799?mode=amp

aaakev

Up to the 18th Jan there was 22,555 new car registrations. This is a drop of 1.6% on 2017.

Used car imports are at 5,347. Up 25.69%

New LCV registrations are at 3,700. Up 8.35%

Used LCV imports are 823. Up 22.29%


Lots of people importing the last few months. I look at these figures all the time for work and the 2nd half of last year imports were ahead of new registrations.

I registered a couple late yesterday, dublin regs were just shy of 10,000 so id say they will pass it this weekend.

If you want any make and model ill pull them up

aaakev

Screenshot of the breakdon by make

Ewan Hoosarmi

aaakev wrote: »

Screenshot of the breakdon by make

9 Teslas... wow.

vandriver

Citroen has almost disappeared off the sales figures as a mass market manufacturer.

aaakev

Ewan Hoosarmi wrote: »

9 Teslas... wow.

No Bik for company car drivers, company directors will be seriously looking at them. I know 1 who has one ordered and another who is considering one when his car is up for change later this year

colm_mcm

vandriver wrote: »

Citroen has almost disappeared off the sales figures as a mass market manufacturer.

When the top 3 manufacturers take 35% of the market then you’ll have that. Also Citroen’s lineup is very weak nowadays. Would someone buy a C4 over a Golf, C3 over a Fiesta etc. I’d reckon most of their sales are MPVs (and vans, which don’t show on this)

aaakev

colm_mcm wrote: »

When the top 3 manufacturers take 35% of the market then you’ll have that. Also Citroen’s lineup is very weak nowadays. Would someone buy a C4 over a Golf, C3 over a Fiesta etc. I’d reckon most of their sales are MPVs (and vans, which don’t show on this)

They have done more vans than cars, iv attached the lcv stats

Heres Johnny

Is that lower than normal for Volkswagen?
BMW 3rd out of the 3 expensive Germans and a long way behind Mercedes. Need that new 3 series out soon I'd say it will be a cracker if based on the 5.

colm_mcm

What’s interesting is the Toyota LCV sales. Have you a breakdown of those? I’d imagine a good few are Proace (rebadged citroen/Peugeot) vans, but a load of them are Land Cruiser crewcabs.

aaakev

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Is that lower than normal for Volkswagen?
BMW 3rd out of the 3 expensive Germans and a long way behind Mercedes. Need that new 3 series out soon I'd say it will be a cracker if based on the 5.

A few years ago it was mercedes who were third out of the 3. I would have thought the likes of the CLA was bringing them up because of the lower entry price but the E class is miles out in front with nearly half of mercedes numbers so far!

aaakev

colm_mcm wrote: »

What’s interesting is the Toyota LCV sales. Have you a breakdown of those? I’d imagine a good few are Proace (rebadged citroen/Peugeot) vans, but a load of them are Land Cruiser crewcabs.

Yeah mostly landcruiser, 39 proace

ongarite

Peugeot sales way up this year based on sales of the 3008 and 5008 I reckon.

aaakev

There's the top 100 by make and model

colm_mcm

Any Mitsubishi Lancers sold?

aaakev

colm_mcm wrote: »

Any Mitsubishi Lancers sold?

Only 10!

Big Nasty

If somebody told you 10 / 15 years back that Hyundai would be one of the top selling brands in the country you would have laughed at them.

Lleyn elec

I wonder what is the reason for the fall off in sales of Volkswagen Golfs?

Atlantic Dawn

Interesting to see the E Class out in front of the premium cars.

colm_mcm

Lleyn elec wrote: »

I wonder what is the reason for the fall off in sales of Volkswagen Golfs?

Factory orders vs cars waiting in stock to be sold.

Toyotafanboi

Nissan doing buy one get one free seems to have given them a lift?

thierry14

VW struggling

Good to see

colm_mcm

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Nissan doing buy one get one free seems to have given them a lift?

And scrappage.

aaakev

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Interesting to see the E Class out in front of the premium cars.

That new E class is tasty, its converted a few S class drivers

colm_mcm

thierry14 wrote: »

VW struggling

Good to see

Add Skoda, SEAT and Audi to that though

bs2014

Mercedes going very strung. Big change for Opel. Getting decimated in 12th position.

Why is the new grandland stilll not at opel dealers....the adds have been on for months.

New insignia....I'm baffled how little traction it has taken. Literally the insignia performed better in its run out years than the new one....I know this segment is shrinking but it's a popular car I expected to give opel a lift

thierry14

colm_mcm wrote: »

Add Skoda, SEAT and Audi to that though

Group sales change everything alright

Renault, Mitsubishi, Dacia, Nissan and so on are probably number 1

Skoda will overtake VW at this rate, interesting

lawred2

I bet Peugeot's growth is on the back of 3008 and 5008 sales.


e: I see by the makes and model I was largely correct

thierry14

aaakev wrote: »

No Bik for company car drivers, company directors will be seriously looking at them. I know 1 who has one ordered and another who is considering one when his car is up for change later this year

I'd say they will they will be top 10 here in a few years

Very strong brand awareness now

thierry14

bs2014 wrote: »

New insignia....I'm baffled how little traction it has taken. Literally the insignia performed better in its run out years than the new one....I know this segment is shrinking but it's a popular car I expected to give opel a lift

Its got a dark cloud over it for reliability and resale value ( early years and UK imports)

Everyone I know who has/had one wouldnt buy another

Toyota/Skoda are the kings in that repesect

aaakev

thierry14 wrote: »

I'd say they will they will be top 10 here in a few years

Very strong brand awareness now

Id say you could be right. I was in Amsterdam in November and they were everywhere in the form of taxis!

colm_mcm

bs2014 wrote: »

New insignia....I'm baffled how little traction it has taken. Literally the insignia performed better in its run out years than the new one....I know this segment is shrinking but it's a popular car I expected to give opel a lift

The Mondeo is being given away though, if budget doesn’t stretch to Passat/Superb or then Mondeo is the one to get.

Here are 2016/7 figures. The Passat dominates that sector (add estate figures to saloon)


That sector is dying either way, people are buying crossovers instead, so if they’re gonna buy a saloon, it’ll be from the big players.
Toyota won’t be replacing the Avensis.

road_high

bs2014 wrote: »

Mercedes going very strung. Big change for Opel. Getting decimated in 12th position.

Why is the new grandland stilll not at opel dealers....the adds have been on for months.

New insignia....I'm baffled how little traction it has taken. Literally the insignia performed better in its run out years than the new one....I know this segment is shrinking but it's a popular car I expected to give opel a lift

All the negativity and uncertainty over GM selling them to PSA is I think hitting sales. This is with a new Insignia, fresh Astra and a few new crossover SUVs. Buyers hate uncertainty as hit can hit residuals and warranty concerns.

aaakev

Opel are now looking for a good few new dealers across the country so they are planning a big push

road_high

vandriver wrote: »

Citroen has almost disappeared off the sales figures as a mass market manufacturer.

Their range has very little to appeal to Irish buyers. The new C3 is supposed to be a good car but very hard get people out of their Polos, Fiestas or Yaris in that class.
The C4 is hopeless as it's so bland and unappealing. The C1 is a tiny seller as are all city cars.
You see a few Picassos about and the odd C4 Cactus. Again no SUV presence like their big brother Peugeot.

road_high

aaakev wrote: »

Opel are now looking for a good few new dealers across the country so they are planning a big push

I thought Opel had a fairly comprehensive dealer network? Most counties I can think of have at least one dealer.

aaakev

road_high wrote: »

aaakev wrote: »

Opel are now looking for a good few new dealers across the country so they are planning a big push

I thought Opel had a fairly comprehensive dealer network? Most counties I can think of have at least one dealer.

I would have thought so too bit they are looking for more nonetheless

Edit. 33 according to their website

road_high

aaakev wrote: »

I would have thought so too bit they are looking for more nonetheless

Edit. 33 according to their website

I think myself it's not so much the dealer numbers that's the problem, it's been the cars themselves- their once good name that they destroyed and lack of competitive popular models.
Didn't the Corsa come out new circa 2006? Despite some clever face-lifting it is the same model. Buyers aren't stupid and this is reflected in the sales figures. That used be a very popular model here, regular top ten.

colm_mcm

Their bizzare advertising can’t be helping.

road_high

colm_mcm wrote: »

Their bizzare advertising can’t be helping.

Apart from that awful attempt to copy VW with the German quality lie, not sure what they are doing now?

aaakev

I agree, i havent seen anything in the opel line up for years that id look at twice. There was a time everyone in the country had a corsa for their first car!

road_high

lawred2 wrote: »

I bet Peugeot's growth is on the back of 3008 and 5008 sales.


e: I see by the makes and model I was largely correct

Those models are spot on for where the market is. Very stylish looking and competitive crossovers, not surprised they have started well. Peugeot is one make that has come back with gusto and into the top 10.

blingrhino

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Interesting to see the E Class out in front of the premium cars.

i just bought a new one on tueday- so far so good but a big change from a Golf R !

road_high

Why are Rneualt taking a hit this Jan? Are they running less offers or something? Down nearly 1/3.
Kadjar, Captur and Megane all still fresh.

AMKC

Lleyn elec wrote: »

I wonder what is the reason for the fall off in sales of Volkswagen Golfs?

The fact that it is ten plus years old and boring maybe.

bs2014 wrote: »

Mercedes going very strung. Big change for Opel. Getting decimated in 12th position.

Why is the new grandland stilll not at opel dealers....the adds have been on for months.

New insignia....I'm baffled how little traction it has taken. Literally the insignia performed better in its run out years than the new one....I know this segment is shrinking but it's a popular car I expected to give opel a lift

I did see a Grandland at my local dealer but there was no brochures and it was outside not in the showroom.
That same dealer do still had an old Insignia in the showroom and no new ones anywhere or brochures for them either.

thierry14 wrote: »

Group sales change everything alright

Renault, Mitsubishi, Dacia, Nissan and so on are probably number 1

Skoda will overtake VW at this rate, interesting

Now that I would love to see. VW have been trying to stop them being as successful as they were by restricting there designs a bit and making them more bland.

thierry14 wrote: »

Its got a dark cloud over it for reliability and resale value ( early years and UK imports)

Everyone I know who has/had one wouldnt buy another

Toyota/Skoda are the kings in that repesect

I think that is terrible as the new car is a whole new car. Totally different to the old one.

road_high wrote: »

Their range has very little to appeal to Irish buyers. The new C3 is supposed to be a good car but very hard get people out of their Polos, Fiestas, Clios or Yaris in that class.
The C4 is hopeless as it's so bland and unappealing. The C1 is a tiny seller as are all city cars.
You see a few Picassos about and the odd C4 Cactus. Again no SUV presence like their big brother Peugeot.

Fixed your post for you.

The new C3 is supposed to be a good car but very hard get people out of their Polos, Fiestas, Clios or Yaris in that class.
The 208 is a very popular small car too.

road_high wrote: »

I think myself it's not so much the dealer numbers that's the problem, it's been the cars themselves- their once good name that they destroyed and lack of competitive popular models.
Didn't the Corsa come out new circa 2006? Despite some clever face-lifting it is the same model. Buyers aren't stupid and this is reflected in the sales figures. That used be a very popular model here, regular top ten.

You can say the same for the VW golf it has been around since 2008 but yet people keep buying it even do it is about as exciting as bread.

colm_mcm

The Mk7 Golf is out since 2013 and is a completely different platform to the Mk6 (which was heavily based on the mk5) It was class leading when it was launched, and is still the car to beat in that sector, they’ve updated engines and facelifted it in the meantime. It has the widest range of engines and trim levels in that class, so you can have anything from a 1.0 base model to a Golf R. All engines in the range are turbocharged, and once you get up to Highline level, there’s no creditable competition for it.

bazz26

colm_mcm wrote: »

When the top 3 manufacturers take 35% of the market then you’ll have that. Also Citroen’s lineup is very weak nowadays. Would someone buy a C4 over a Golf, C3 over a Fiesta etc. I’d reckon most of their sales are MPVs (and vans, which don’t show on this)

The C4 was discontinued by Citroen at the end of last year. The facelifted Cactus takes over from it.