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Boy / irish name

  • 19-01-2018 7:19pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys.. long story short... i would like to get some ideas into my head...we are expecting second boy....anytime now... he is due tomorrow...


    Our first is named Liam....


    I really like Somhairlidh which is Samuel in irish...as wife wanna Samuel....but my younger brother is Samuel...it simply cant be..

    My other choices would be Noah....Kierran or Killian.... or...

    But i am sure more tips (genuine) would bring more ideas....

    I would really welcome some irish nice name for a strong wee boy....

    Second do you guys know any Somhairlidh in real life? I have never met one.... living here almost 15y.


    Thank you

    Ed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Bikerguy wrote: »
    Hi guys.. long story short... i would like to get some ideas into my head...we are expecting second boy....anytime now... he is due tomorrow...


    Our first is named Liam....


    I really like Somhairlidh which is Samuel in irish...as wife wanna Samuel....but my younger brother is Samuel...it simply cant be..

    My other choices would be Noah....Kierran or Killian.... or...

    But i am sure more tips (genuine) would bring more ideas....

    I would really welcome some irish nice name for a strong wee boy....

    Second do you guys know any Somhairlidh in real life? I have never met one.... living here almost 15y.


    Thank you

    Ed

    If you want a truly Irish name there is no K in the Irish language . So it would be Cillian or Ciarán . Noah is a biblical name and not an Irish name as such

    What about Cian . Fionn . Oisín . Oran . Dara .


    On the Irish Central Statisics site online you can enter any name and any year and see how many baby were given that name that year
    I personally have never come across a Somhairlidh

    Ps I just checked and the name you are thinking of is Somhairle


    SOMHAIRLE. SOMHAIRLE, genitive — id. (the same), Sorley, (Samuel, Charles); Norse — Sumerlide, summer-sailor; a name of Norse origin; specially common among the MacDonnells, by whom it was anglicised Sorley; now disguised as Samuel and Charles. Latin — Somerledus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭Loveinapril


    I have never actually even seen that name. How are you pronouncing it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Tenigate


    Somhairlidh is a horrible name and the spelling is ridiculous. I've never heard of it either. I'd recommend Sam.

    Kieran or Killian .. the irish spellings are Ciarán and Cillian. They're ok. Cillian is quite popular.

    Noah is a nice name but it's Old Testament and not an Irish name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,449 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Bikerguy wrote: »
    Second do you guys know any Somhairlidh in real life? I have never met one.... living here almost 15y.


    It's not a name that rolls easily off the tongue! :D


    However, an Irish name with an 'S' I think worthy of consideration might be 'Seoirse' if you wanted to go that way:


    Meaning & History

    Irish form of GEORGE.

    GEORGE   m   English, Romanian
    From the Greek name Γεωργιος (Georgios) which was derived from the Greek word γεωργος (georgos) meaning "farmer, earthworker", itself derived from the elements γη (ge) "earth" and εργον (ergon) "work". Saint George was a 3rd-century Roman soldier from Palestine who was martyred during the persecutions of emperor Diocletian. Later legends describe his defeat of a dragon, with which he was often depicted in medieval art.

    Initially Saint George was primarily revered by Eastern Christians, but returning crusaders brought stories of him to Western Europe and he became the patron of England, Portugal, Catalonia and Aragon. The name was rarely used in England until the German-born George I came to the British throne in the 18th century. Five subsequent British kings have borne the name.

    Other famous bearers include two kings of Greece, the composer George Frideric Handel (1685-1759), the first president of the United States, George Washington (1732-1797), and the Pacific explorer George Vancouver (1757-1798). This was also the pen name of authors George Eliot (1819-1880) and George Orwell (1903-1950), real names Mary Anne Evans and Eric Arthur Blair respectively.



    Source: Behind the name - Seoirse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Lockedout2


    Somhairlidh would be so unfair, he will spend the rest of his life spelling and pronouncing it to everyone.

    It’s bad enough being called Kieran when your name is Ciarán!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Lockedout2 wrote: »
    Somhairlidh would be so unfair, he will spend the rest of his life spelling and pronouncing it to everyone.

    It’s bad enough being called Kieran when your name is Ciarán!

    I agree.
    Think a 4yr old trying to learn to spell that..think that on top of a CV when an employer is scratching his head on how to pronounce that when he phones him for an interview..and worse when someone sees that on paper it could be either gender.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭catrionanic


    We struggled to find an Irish boy’s name and we also chose Liam! My husband is welsh and he wanted something that would be easy to spell and pronounced in the uk.

    On that basis, others we considered were Lorcan, Conor, Lochlann, Ronan, Rory, Conall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I don't see why ye can't have Samuel either.
    It could become a family name and his uncle would be chuffed with the nod.
    Sam is a very popular baby boy's name now.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Jane1012


    What about Senan, Oisin or Fionn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Felim/Feidhlim/Phelim


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bikerguy


    I don't see why ye can't have Samuel either.
    It could become a family name and his uncle would be chuffed with the nod.
    Sam is a very popular baby boy's name now.

    Its just my younger brother....its doesnt fit
    ..

    Thanks all the imput.... Wife came up with Sean. Its still not decided....

    I have never expected so much nice people and nice tips....

    And yes...
    Somhairlidh would be unfair....i never though of that the other way...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bikerguy


    Felim/Feidhlim/Phelim

    Never met anybody with such a name...going to google them up... meaning..

    Met plenty of Dermots...Darraghs....etc

    One name always make.me laugh...and its Seamus - as there was an advert on donedeal....a guy called Seamus selling cars..and on all his adds it was... call Seamus for more info.... its in my head since then..as it was so funny...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bikerguy


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    If you want a truly Irish name there is no K in the Irish language . So it would be Cillian or Ciarán . Noah is a biblical name and not an Irish name as such

    What about Cian . Fionn . Oisín . Oran . Dara .


    On the Irish Central Statisics site online you can enter any name and any year and see how many baby were given that name that year
    I personally have never come across a Somhairlidh

    Ps I just checked and the name you are thinking of is Somhairle


    SOMHAIRLE. SOMHAIRLE, genitive — id. (the same), Sorley, (Samuel, Charles); Norse — Sumerlide, summer-sailor; a name of Norse origin; specially common among the MacDonnells, by whom it was anglicised Sorley; now disguised as Samuel and Charles. Latin — Somerledus.


    Oran...Cian... going to look them up...

    Edit: after checking up...Cian is defo something i have overlooked but it sounds great...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Lustrum


    If you're set on an Irish name, it's worth getting a second hand copy of this

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Irish-Names-Donncha-OCorrain/dp/0946640661

    Has everything from "normal" names such as Liam and Sean, to not so normal such as Maolseachlann and Cú Mhara (means hound of the sea, an epic name!).

    You'll also get the history of all the names from it which is quite interesting in it's own right


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭HONKEY TONK


    Eoin. Ryan. Ciaran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭tedpan


    Donal?

    Donnacha?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭tedpan


    Padraig?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Steviesol


    Oisin , Fiachra , Darrach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bikerguy


    Will update you once he is with us...due today...but you never know...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    Bets of luck to your wife and self as your baby's birthday arrives.
    I have always had a bit of a grá for the name Malachi.
    Naoise too.
    Conall is nice.
    Fintan, Oisín and Iarla are other ones I like.
    It depends a bit on if you have met people you like/dislike with the names though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Bikerguy wrote: »
    Will update you once he is with us...due today...but you never know...

    Best wishes and I hope all goes well for you all .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Dj Stiggie


    Malayalam wrote: »
    Bets of luck to your wife and self as your baby's birthday arrives.
    I have always had a bit of a grá for the name Malachi.
    Naoise too.
    Conall is nice.
    Fintan, Oisín and Iarla are other ones I like.
    It depends a bit on if you have met people you like/dislike with the names though.

    Don't name your child Naoise. They might leave Ireland someday and be in a whole world of pain. I used to work for a guy named Naoise, and we're still good mates. People always came in asking for 'Noisey' or 'No-way-say', or they'd walk up to the first girl they saw and ask if they were Naoise. I had someone contact him for a reference recently and she thought I'd made the name up!


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,914 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I hope you're not still here in 2 weeks!!

    Yeah, having a good strong name is nice. But do bear in mind the person (not baby) who will have to use it, write it, spell it for the rest of their lives.

    I like Darragh/Dara (Darrach, is pronounced Darragh just with awkward spelling!) Conor, Eoin, Liam, Conn, Shay (as short for Seamus), Mícheál.

    You can think of all the names you like, but when you see him something will sit right on him and that will be it.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭julyjane


    Bikerguy wrote: »

    One name always make.me laugh...and its Seamus - as there was an advert on donedeal....a guy called Seamus selling cars..and on all his adds it was... call Seamus for more info.... its in my head since then..as it was so funny...

    I have cousins in England, a big family and one son was given a token Irish name. A sibling of his joked to me "it's a good thing they didn't call him Séamus because that's what he always does"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 magvadesign


    Best to stick with a name that is easy to pronounce. How about:
    Cian, Ruairi, Eamonn, Tadhg, Cillian, Ros, Iain, Ryan, Aron, Daithi, Cormac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bikerguy


    So far on my list Cian...Ciarran, cillian and Sean....

    Hint: i can only present my list to her majesty and we move from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Bikerguy wrote: »
    So far on my list Cian...Ciarran, cillian and Sean....

    Hint: i can only present my list to her majesty and we move from there.

    Lovely names ! Just a little advice though its Ciarán with one r in the middle , it will
    look odd with two r


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭amor3


    I have a Ciarán, Liam and a Cillian.. have 1 girl, not an Irish name regrettably.. and 1 on the way so on the look out myself..

    Some good suggestions already so far OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,649 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    Bikerguy wrote: »
    So far on my list Cian...Ciarran, cillian and Sean....

    Hint: i can only present my list to her majesty and we move from there.

    And remember the fadas too please, otherwise you've got a very different pronounciation.

    Ciarán, Seán, Dónal...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    My husband is welsh and he wanted something that would be easy to spell and pronounced in the uk.

    On that basis, others we considered were Lorcan, Conor, Lochlann, Ronan, Rory, Conall.

    We've got the same condition on names - they need to be easy to pronounce in the UK as we currently live in London and don't see ourselves back in Ireland any time soon. We have a Conor already but picking a second boys name is a nightmare. Due in 3 weeks and we have nothing set...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭georgina toadbum


    I still want to know how you pronounce Somhairlidh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭TheBlock


    Aidan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,236 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    We've got the same condition on names - they need to be easy to pronounce in the UK as we currently live in London and don't see ourselves back in Ireland any time soon. We have a Conor already but picking a second boys name is a nightmare. Due in 3 weeks and we have nothing set...

    Lorcan?
    I still want to know how you pronounce Somhairlidh

    So-orla/So-orlih, I'd guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I still want to know how you pronounce Somhairlidh

    The name is Somhairle . Sew er le


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    As someone with a very Irish name I don't get all the people saying it's a bad thing. I've got fadas and everything and went to college in the states and have traveled all around the world with little issue. It's always been a positive point of conversation rather then a hindrance. Brother and several cousins also have super Irish names and most are living outside of Ireland, again with little issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    As someone with a very Irish name I don't get all the people saying it's a bad thing. I've got fadas and everything and went to college in the states and have traveled all around the world with little issue. It's always been a positive point of conversation rather then a hindrance. Brother and several cousins also have super Irish names and most are living outside of Ireland, again with little issue.



    I lived in Germany and my name has fadas and multiple vowels ! I found no problem at all with them saying my name . But I was always sure to say it first before they saw the spelling! Once others see the spelling it throws them completely off !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I still want to know how you pronounce Somhairlidh

    All I can think of is samurai sword!
    Sorry OP.

    To thine own self be true



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Eoin. Ryan. Ciaran.
    No y in the Irish language.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bikerguy


    Boy still not with us...taking his time... did i mentioned that we..or better said..she has the name....so its going to be Sean

    Btw i will still call him Sam-her-lee...at least to piss her of a bit... just a for a while...as basically i had no chance to decide....i submited some names and all was refused....xixi


    Anyway...once its healthy boy it will be a win win....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Bikerguy wrote: »
    Boy still not with us...taking his time... did i mentioned that we..or better said..she has the name....so its going to be Sean

    Btw i will still call him Sam-her-lee...at least to piss her of a bit... just a for a while...as basically i had no chance to decide....i submited some names and all was refused....xixi


    Anyway...once its healthy boy it will be a win win....

    Don't put your eggs in one basket.
    Scans have been wrong..
    You might get a Shauna ;)

    To thine own self be true



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bikerguy


    Don't put your eggs in one basket.
    Scans have been wrong..
    You might get a Shauna ;)

    Well well.... i am from 3 brothers... my brothers has only sons.... it would be like winning lottery here....but its a boy...thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Free-2-Flow


    What about Brody?
    That's we named our son but it's more Celtic than Irish, Most likely Scottish/Irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭ambasite


    Oisin or Tadgh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭17togo


    Don't give up yet. We called our little lunatic Seadna (shay-na). There's a fada over the e but boards doesn't recognise it! It's an old Irish name, not very well known. Translated into English it would be Sidney! There's an old story written printed back in 1904 about a cobbler, and his name is Seadna. It's available to read online, something for you to do while waiting for him to make an appearance!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    I love the name Cillian but my son is called Caolán


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,903 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    As someone with a very Irish name I don't get all the people saying it's a bad thing. I've got fadas and everything and went to college in the states and have traveled all around the world with little issue. It's always been a positive point of conversation rather then a hindrance. Brother and several cousins also have super Irish names and most are living outside of Ireland, again with little issue.
    The Eastern Europeans living here don’t seem to have an issue with their name. We live in a multi cultural society. I really don’t get people who have issues with Irish names

    In saying that we called one of ours Ava, we tried to go with the Irish version but they all seem to be made up versions.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,236 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Have heard a few boys lately called Culainn, think it’s lovely (not sure of spelling).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    pc7 wrote: »
    Have heard a few boys lately called Culainn, think it’s lovely (not sure of spelling).

    Culann


    Culann. In the Ulster Cycle of Irish mythology, Culann was a smith whose house was protected by a ferocious watchdog. ... For this he was renamed Cú Chulainn – "Culann's hound".


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,236 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Yeah knew it was from the story, very nice name if I were to have another I’d love it but that won’t be happening!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Rían - (little King) don't forget the Fada as it has a different meaning.


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