Is it worth putting 1500 into an 11 year old car?

sellasheep

All the injectors on my 2007 Mondeo need replacing at the cost of 1500. There is 250000 on the clock. I dread that everything else will begin to go once it starts. The car is only worth 1100. I was thinking of just getting rid?

Harry Palmr

Do you like the car and is it reliable day to day? Do you have a budget for a replacement? Do you know of anything else that needs attention in the short to medium term like brakes, water pump/belt etc?

Elemonator

There's a rule against putting more money into a car than its worth when it comes to repairs.

George Dalton

What I always tell people in these situations is that the most important factor is how much you are willing to spend on a replacement car.

So if you are willing to spend a decent amount of money and get into a much newer car then that is probably the way to go.

But if you are planning on selling the Mondeo and buying another cheap car as a replacement then you run a very big risk of buying someone else's problems so if that is the case then you are probably better off just fixing your own car.

Toyotafanboi

If you have no budget for replacement it's probably a viable option to repair. You'd only buy another scrapper with €1500.

Wabbit Ears

Once a repair is gonna cost more than the car is worth its scrap.

You would be better off buying a lower milage, newer car for 1400 plus a hundred quid to have a mechanic give it a once over before you buy it if your really stuck for cash and cant buy a better car.

delboythedub

Firm in Galway reconditions them , you could try Google them

Could you spent 1100 on getting another Mondeo to use for parts?

JimmyMcGill

Elemonator wrote: »

There's a rule against putting more money into a car than its worth when it comes to repairs.

All depends on what Ops finances are as regards changing it. If he puts 1500 into an new car that goes wrong then he'd be better off putting it into his Mondeo imo. He won't find that out until it's too late unfortunately.
I've done it myself, bought as opposed to fix an old Car, only to be burned with the new one. A rover 213, the bitch. :-)

What sort of money have you spent on it through the years? Have you looked after it well? Up to date service? Replaced parts when necessary? etc etc

If you have, then you know your car very well and if you like your car, and if you feel 1500 euro spent will give you another few years, then fine- do it.

However, at some point over the coming 2 years, you'll probably have to bite the bullet and dip into the car market for a replacement. If now is a good a time as any for you, then might be an idea to start trading in or selling.

Mooooo

BIL old focus went, bought a another 12 year old one for 900 i think and kept the old one for parts, that did him for about 18 months, nct issue would cost more than car to repair so he found an 05 vectra with a year test for about 900 as well i think. Still going 6 months later anyway. If you can afford a much newer one work away but if you are going only replacing it with a similar vintage may be worth fixing as the one you buy could go the same route

Akrasia

Better the devil you know. Mondeos are capable of putting up serious miles if looked after, or you could buy a lemon with 150k fewer miles on it

pearcider

Unless you've recently done something major to it like the clutch or the t belt, get rid. At 15 years old, most insurance companies will apply a significant loading on the car. You can get a decent replacement car for 1500 you just need to keep the eye out. The good ones go within the day.

martyc5674

What engine is it?.. you’d get 4 injectors from a second hand engine for about 200€. Especially if it’s the 1.8tdci. There’s an abundance of them on the scrap heap after wet belt failure.

sellasheep

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Do you like the car and is it reliable day to day? Do you have a budget for a replacement? Do you know of anything else that needs attention in the short to medium term like brakes, water pump/belt etc?

I love it and it's very reliable. It has tax until May and an NYC until October. New tyres, battery, recent service. I know the car very well. The starter had to be reconditioned and sometimes when I turn the key nothing happens but when I go to start it again it starts but only starts from cold despite me heating it. All I have is 6k

sellasheep

martyc5674 wrote: »

What engine is it?.. you’d get 4 injectors from a second hand engine for about 200€. Especially if it’s the 1.8tdci. There’s an abundance of them on the scrap heap after wet belt failure.

It's 1.8 TDCI, sure I've already brought the new injectors but they haven't been fitted yet and even if I got them from a breakers those injectors would likely need replacing anyway.

George Dalton

Wabbit Ears wrote: »

You would be better off buying a lower milage, newer car for 1400 plus a hundred quid to have a mechanic give it a once over before you buy it if your really stuck for cash and cant buy a better car.

That is exactly the opposite of what you should do.

Toyotafanboi

sellasheep wrote: »

I love it and it's very reliable. It has tax until May and an NYC until October. New tyres, battery, recent service. I know the car very well. The starter had to be reconditioned and sometimes when I turn the key nothing happens but when I go to start it again it starts but only starts from cold despite me heating it. All I have is 6k

Sounds like a good case for fixing the car to me. It's the cheapest and least risky option.

martyc5674

sellasheep wrote: »

It's 1.8 TDCI, sure I've already brought the new injectors but they haven't been fitted yet and even if I got them from a breakers those injectors would likely need replacing anyway.

If you’ve then bought stick them in sure!!
I was only giving a cheaper option... personally I wouldn’t have bought them new but since you have you may aswell use them.
Very easy job on that engine... v accessible.
Marty.

corcaigh1

sellasheep wrote: »

All the injectors on my 2007 Mondeo need replacing at the cost of 1500. There is 250000 on the clock. I dread that everything else will begin to go once it starts. The car is only worth 1100. I was thinking of just getting rid?

€1500!! Jesus!

sellasheep wrote: »

It's 1.8 TDCI, sure I've already brought the new injectors but they haven't been fitted yet and even if I got them from a breakers those injectors would likely need replacing anyway.

How much were the injectors alone and could you not have replaced only the bad ones, is there much labour involved?

Idbatterim

sellasheep wrote: »

It's 1.8 TDCI, sure I've already brought the new injectors but they haven't been fitted yet and even if I got them from a breakers those injectors would likely need replacing anyway.

how much were the injectors? the fact it has a few months tax and nct, Id probably repair, shop around for quotes to replace the injectors if you cant do it yourself...

sellasheep

Idbatterim wrote: »

how much were the injectors? the fact it has a few months tax and nct, Id probably repair, shop around for quotes to replace the injectors if you cant do it yourself...

€190 each

sellasheep

corcaigh1 wrote: »

€1500!! Jesus!



How much were the injectors alone and could you not have replaced only the bad ones, is there much labour involved?

No because the others will go eventually and I want them all firing evenly together

corcaigh1

sellasheep wrote: »

No because the others will go eventually and I want them all firing evenly together

True. So its gonna cost over 600 to fit them or around 12 + hours labour?? surely there is no chance it will take that long to fit the injectors?

sellasheep

corcaigh1 wrote: »

True. So its gonna cost over 600 to fit them or around 12 + hours labour?? surely there is no chance it will take that long to fit the injectors?

The mechanic estimated 1 day anyway. Labour will be 500.

commited

Sounds like you need a new mechanic, not a new car! I've done a fair few injectors and with the right kit, you should be looking at about 4 hours labour at worst if they're all stuck. If they aren't too stuck, less than 2 hours. If you're able to return the injectors, you can buy them refurbished for €120 each on ebay.

corcaigh1

sellasheep wrote: »

The mechanic estimated 1 day anyway. Labour will be 500.

Seems really expensive...

George Dalton

They are very easy to replace. 1-2 hours for the set depending on how smoothly the job goes.

sellasheep

commited wrote: »

Sounds like you need a new mechanic, not a new car! I've done a fair few injectors and with the right kit, you should be looking at about 4 hours labour at worst if they're all stuck. If they aren't too stuck, less than 2 hours. If you're able to return the injectors, you can buy them refurbished for €120 each on ebay.

As I said, refurbished injectors are not suitable for that engine.

Doltanian

With 250,000 on the clock there is a host of other parts nearing the end of their life, scrap and buy something else.

road_high

Echo others here, shop around a bit more to see can you save something on the repairs bill. That should sway things.

bear1

Don't the injectors need to be coded too?

sellasheep

bear1 wrote: »

Don't the injectors need to be coded too?

They do

bear1

sellasheep wrote: »

They do

Where are you based?

sellasheep

bear1 wrote: »

Where are you based?

Co Laois. The job isn't done yet.

sellasheep

sellasheep wrote: »

Co Laois. The job isn't done yet.

Could ya sell a few sheep?:p

*obvious question to ask*

Tuco88

250km? Or miles. The last 1.8 we had did 320,000 miles, it was the body that gave up.

sellasheep

Tuco88 wrote: »

250km? Or miles. The last 1.8 we had did 320,000 miles, it was the body that gave up.

250000 km which is 156000 miles. What 1.8 was it?

sellasheep

sellasheep wrote: »

250000 km which is 156000 miles. What 1.8 was it?

Just get the injectors done and drive it on. The car will do twice that mileage and more if you look after it the way you have to this point.

corglass

bear1 wrote: »

Don't the injectors need to be coded too?

Coding is optional. Car will run fine without coding..

The coding just fine tunes the injection timing in accordance with test results from the specific Injector at time of manufacture. The effect of coding is minimal at best as any large variance in the injector at time of manufacture would not pass quality control. Save your money.

Mintoe

sellasheep wrote: »

All the injectors on my 2007 Mondeo need replacing at the cost of 1500. There is 250000 on the clock. I dread that everything else will begin to go once it starts. The car is only worth 1100. I was thinking of just getting rid?

Delphi injectors on 07 mondeo which can be easily reconditioned for much cheaper than buying new ones.... excel diesel repairs ltd in dublin ask for ray.... he’s been a diesel specialist for over 30 years

bear1

Maybe I've read it wrong but you already bought the new injectors right?
If yes then you may as well repair it just I would choose another mechanic.

sellasheep

bear1 wrote: »

Maybe I've read it wrong but you already bought the new injectors right?
If yes then you may as well repair it just I would choose another mechanic.

I purchased them and they're ready to go. I'm just going to repair it.

George Dalton

Mintoe wrote: »

Delphi injectors on 07 mondeo which can be easily reconditioned for much cheaper than buying new ones.... excel diesel repairs ltd in dublin ask for ray.... he’s been a diesel specialist for over 30 years

The OP’s car is a newer 07-> shape Mondeo 1.8TDCI which uses Siemens injectors.

The old shape -> 07 Mondeo uses Delphi.

650Ginge

sellasheep wrote: »

All the injectors on my 2007 Mondeo need replacing at the cost of 1500. There is 250000 on the clock. I dread that everything else will begin to go once it starts. The car is only worth 1100. I was thinking of just getting rid?

It has got really nothing to do with the cost of repairing it is versus the current value.

It is the cost of repair versus the cost of buying another car to replace it. If you need 4 injectors, on a 2007 mondeo it is worth absolutely nothing other than scrap. But if you put the 1500 into it then you got a car that works for 1500. If you buy a replacement car at 1500, well it is unlikely to be in tiptop condition is it. So what would you spend on a replacement, 7000, 8000, going to be a lot more than 1500 anyway.

Maggie Marie

George Dalton wrote: »

They are very easy to replace. 1-2 hours for the set depending on how smoothly the job goes.

Op give the job to this lad.

Maggie Marie

Maggie Marie wrote: »

Op give the job to this lad.

George Dalton is a gent, not a lad.

sellasheep

JayZeus wrote: »

George Dalton is a gent, not a lad.

Bit late now as the job has been done. Pity I didn't know George was a mechanic until now.

sellasheep

sellasheep wrote: »

Bit late now as the job has been done. Pity I didn't know George was a mechanic until now.

His location is 'daltons.ie', he knew the difference between siemens and delphi injectors per mondeo model year, he could tell you it's a 1-2 hour job allowing for every injector to be stuck etc etc etc.

He's even local to you, just out the Abbeyleix road from Portlaoise.

You can lead a horse to water, as they say.

sellasheep

JayZeus wrote: »

His location is 'daltons.ie', he knew the difference between siemens and delphi injectors per mondeo model year, he could tell you it's a 1-2 hour job allowing for every injector to be stuck etc etc etc.

He's even local to you, just out the Abbeyleix road from Portlaoise.

You can lead a horse to water, as they say.

George is a very decent man. He gave me the best advice and was ever so helpful. However I was unaware that he was based near me and didn't even spot his location so no need to belittle me for that.

Anyway, I got the car back just now. Total job cost €974! Which included a return line for 70. The mechanic was fantastic and very thorough and gave me a very fair price in the end.

corcaigh1

sellasheep wrote: »

George is a very decent man. He gave me the best advice and was ever so helpful. However I was unaware that he was based near me and didn't even spot his location so no need to belittle me for that.

Anyway, I got the car back just now. Total job cost €974! Which included a return line for 70. The mechanic was fantastic and very thorough and gave me a very fair price in the end.

144 for labour, very good price. Happy days!