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makeorbrake wrote: »

People want to avail of a more cost effective service. There's nothing wrong with that.

i never said there was.
however, the more cost effective service should be that of it's own merrit, which uber isn't unfortunately.
it also had to be pointed out for clarity that the black cabs cannot decide their own fares, they are regulated by transport for london, so are essentially not allowed to compete.

makeorbrake wrote: »

Exaggerate? That's the posters experience. Others here have given their feedback that quality of service tends to be better via a ride sharing service.

yes, exaggerate. his claim was.

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28-07-2019, 19:48
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I've spent a lot of time in California and the traffic is nuts, all the way from San Francisco to LA (the worst on the planet) to San Diego.
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I've spent a lot of time in California and the traffic is nuts, all the way from San Francisco to LA (the worst on the planet) to San Diego.
It's almost as if car-dominated transport planning doesn't really work.
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It's almost as if car-dominated transport planning doesn't really work.
I won't disagree. The major motor companies (eg GM) bought up a lot of the public transport and scrapped it. All well documented. And here we are.
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https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/...ar-952724.html

Maybe now's the time for Uber-style ridesharing. Those who prefer professional driver can pay more for the expertise the rest of us can pay less for an amateur. :-)
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Here we go.... Again

I had a post typed up and deleted it. I just can't be arsed this time around.

If you want to know why Uber are not in widespread use, read the thread, it's all there. The first few pages should do as every argument is repeated ad nauseum
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Here we go.... Again

I had a post typed up and deleted it. I just can't be arsed this time around.

If you want to know why Uber are not in widespread use, read the thread, it's all there. The first few pages should do as every argument is repeated ad nauseum
Thanks bud. Yeah, read the thread convinced Uber-style ridesharing should be allowed particularly after the fare increase coming.
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Uber and Lyft are the ‘biggest contributors’ to San Francisco’s traffic congestion, study says

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/8/18...increase-study

the headline is a little misleading - it seems that uber and lyft are responsible for most of the *increase* in traffic, rather than responsible for most traffic.
Can't say I am surprised - I was in Chicago last May and at most times the vast majority of the traffic was made up of Uber drivers, I kid you not.

You could clearly see the sticker/identifier on the windshield...heck, some drivers there have an RGB led-lit version of it you could probably see from the rings of Saturn Big Grin

The service is insanely popular in parts of the US, I've seen few actual taxis there as opposed to NYC that's swarming with the yellow cabs; Talking to a couple of Uber drivers (when in Chicago...you know), they were saying they get loads of jobs at peak times, one of them even said there were "regulars" using the service daily to commute to and from work.

In Indianapolis, one driver said he'd get people to O'Hare airport, 200+ miles away, a few times a month...
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Uber reportedly tells its staff not to disclose potential crimes
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According to The Washington Post, a number of Uber's Special Investigations employees have come forward to reveal that they are forbidden from contacting the police or advising victims to pursue legal advice following an instance of assault.
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Here in London we use Uber regularly. It’s a great service, and cheaper than the extortionate black cab. The service is better, as Uber drivers tend not to moan and complain about everything like taxi drivers do. Not having to deal with the price or cash is also a big plus, and any issues with the trip Uber will usually refund you partially or in full.
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Here in London we use Uber regularly. It’s a great service, and cheaper than the extortionate black cab.
the extortionate due to tfl black cab.
the black cab has it's fares regulated.
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The service is better, as Uber drivers tend not to moan and complain about everything like taxi drivers do.

now, given the poster isn't going to be able to show that taxi drivers as a whole tend to moan as claimed, then the poster's statement is an over exaggeration.

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end of the road wrote: »

now, given the poster isn't going to be able to show that taxi drivers as a whole tend to moan as claimed, then the poster's statement is an over exaggeration.

If we're being pedantic, is your objection exaggeration or over exaggeration?

On the black cab fare being set stiffing competition, I agree it's a stupid rule. Regulations often destroy industry as they can't adapt unless the government enforce a monopoly to the detriment of consumers. Ireland has done that.

makeorbrake

end of the road wrote: »

i never said there was.
however, the more cost effective service should be that of it's own merrit, which uber isn't unfortunately.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that. Consumers obviously see merit in it as they use it in droves where it's available.

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i never said there was.
yes, exaggerate. his claim was.

now, given the poster isn't going to be able to show that taxi drivers as a whole tend to moan as claimed, then the poster's statement is an over exaggeration.

It's incorrect to suggest that his experience has been 'exaggerated' if that's his experience. It's also the view of some others here who have had the same experience and provided similar feedback.

Spook_ie

Z z z z z Uber again Z z z z z

makeorbrake

Spook_ie wrote: »

Z z z z z Uber again Z z z z z

Insightful. You have an issue with the discussion of 'uber' on a thread titled 'uber'. :rolleyes:

Spook_ie

makeorbrake wrote: »

Insightful. You have an issue with the discussion of 'uber' on a thread titled 'uber'. :rolleyes:

Z z z z makeorbrake again Z z z z

makeorbrake

Spook_ie wrote: »

Z z z z makeorbrake again Z z z z

Classy

LuckyLloyd

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/2/19/21330906/uber-uk-supreme-court-employee-rights

U.K. Supreme Court rules that Uber drivers are, indeed, workers, confirming the decision made by three lower courts. The unanimous decision means that drivers are entitled to a minimum wage, paid holiday, and other legal protections. Judge George Leggatt said Uber drivers working time isn’t limited to time spent driving passengers, but also “includes any period when a driver is logged into the app and ready and willing to accept trips.”

Should have a knock on impact to the likes of Deliveroo, etc.

podgeandrodge

When trying to book an Uber for a scheduled time (and I've tried a few times over next couple of days to see), I only get an option for "Schedule Black" cab - is there a reason ordinary Uber cabs don't appear? I'm just doing standard dublin afternoon pick up type requests?

podgeandrodge

podgeandrodge wrote: »

When trying to book an Uber for a scheduled time (and I've tried a few times over next couple of days to see), I only get an option for "Schedule Black" cab - is there a reason ordinary Uber cabs don't appear? I'm just doing standard dublin afternoon pick up type requests?

Apart from what you saw, Uber doesn't operate here

podgeandrodge

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Apart from what you saw, Uber doesn't operate here

If I pick "now" you get an option of a regular cab or a "black" cab service.

LuckyLloyd

podgeandrodge wrote: »

If I pick "now" you get an option of a regular cab or a "black" cab service.

The differentiation is around the quality and spec of the car. So you can choose a nicer taxi, should you prefer. But it's a regulated taxi either way.

podgeandrodge

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The differentiation is around the quality and spec of the car. So you can choose a nicer taxi, should you prefer. But it's a regulated taxi either way.

Yes, I know, I was asking why I wasn't offered the standard cab when scheduling an UBER. edit, sorry, scheduling a taxi through the UBER app (some people got confused...)

I don't know what DaCor meant by "apart from what you saw, UBER doesn't operate here" - they use regular taxis all the time.

Anyway, in the end, I didn't schedule, just booked a live booking when I needed it, and the regular taxi option appeared.

So perhaps they don't allow scheduling except for the 'black cab' option.

podgeandrodge

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Yes, I know, I was asking why I wasn't offered the standard cab when scheduling an UBER.

I don't know what DaCor meant by "apart from what you saw, UBER doesn't operate here" - they use regular taxis all the time.

Anyway, in the end, I didn't schedule, just booked a live booking when I needed it, and the regular taxi option appeared.

So perhaps they don't allow scheduling except for the 'black cab' option.

UBER don’t operate in Ireland. They have nothing to do with black cabs.

podgeandrodge

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UBER don’t operate in Ireland. They have nothing to do with black cabs.

Sorry, I had assumed that people would know what I meant when I referred to them "operating in Ireland" in the sense that they use the services of regular cabs, and premium "black" cabs (rather than private cars).

They do operate in Ireland, in the sense that they engage with registered taxis and take payment on the UBER app etc. I presume you meant they don't offer the private car service here.

I shouldn't have referred to them as "uber cabs" as that obviously confused a couple of people, though I thought that they would understand "schedule black", vs. normal cabs.

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podgeandrodge wrote: »

Sorry, I had assumed that people would know what I meant when I referred to them "operating in Ireland" in the sense that they use the services of regular cabs, and premium "black" cabs (rather than private cars).

They do operate in Ireland, in the sense that they engage with registered taxis and take payment on the UBER app etc. I presume you meant they don't offer the private car service here.

I shouldn't have referred to them as "uber cabs" as that obviously confused a couple of people, though I thought that they would understand "schedule black", vs. normal cabs.

I mean, UBER do not operate in Ireland.

ah the joys of trying to talk to someone about Uber

podgeandrodge

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UBER don’t operate in Ireland. They have nothing to do with black cabs.

Deleted User wrote: »

I mean, UBER do not operate in Ireland.

Yep, heard you the first time, thanks. It would be great if you could elaborate as to what you mean by operate? I've already said that I know (and knew) that they aren't allowed operate in Ireland using private cars. But they do operate in Ireland in my view - given that they have contractual relationships with taxis and take payment, and offer bookings through the app.

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ah the joys of trying to talk to someone about Uber

Not sure what you mean, if I was paranoid I would nearly take that as some form of sarcasm. But why would I get that in a forum where most of us try to help each other

corkonion

Uber DO operate in Ireland using licenced taxis and chauffeurs, in the UK they use licenced private hire cars (known here as Hackneys). They do not use unlicensed drivers or cars in the UK contrary to popular opinion they do not use regular people in their family car, though it may appear that way as licenced private hire do not have roof signs or signage, they do use regular part time people in their own cars in places like Australia and the USA.

L1011

There's some terminology confusion here from "Uber Black" to "black cabs" I think. Totally different things.

Uber Black vehicles here are either registered taxis or registered limos, above a specific standard.

A Black Cab is a UK registered taxi; which Uber in the UK doesn't often used - they use hackneys, something we still have but are extremely rare.

podgeandrodge

L1011 wrote: »

There's some terminology confusion here from "Uber Black" to "black cabs" I think. Totally different things.

Uber Black vehicles here are either registered taxis or registered limos, above a specific standard.

A Black Cab is a UK registered taxi; which Uber in the UK doesn't often used - they use hackneys, something we still have but are extremely rare.

I don't think so to be honest.

I think some people are being deliberately pedantic, when my post would have been quite clear to most people, bar people trying to be smartass by trying to link with UK black cabs and pedantically trying to insist that Uber doesn't operate here, which it does, albeit in a different way through arrangements with licenced taxis.

Anyway, I'll leave karma to them.

GT89

Thing is taxis in Ireland are of a far lower standard than the UK especially London. Drivers in Ireland don't have to anywhere near as rigorous a test as the knowledge. In Ireland I have that the standard of driving and directions from some taxi drivers is poor especially late at night.

Also the standard of vehicles in the UK is much higher all taxis there are wheelchair accessible at least in London but not the case here. I think personally it should be mandatory for all taxi drivers to buy a wheelchair accessible vehicle when they go to change vehicle. Minimum age for a taxi in Ireland is 10 years old so if it was made mandatory for all new taxis to be wheelchair accessible we would have a 100% wheelchair accessible taxi fleet within 10 years.

GT89

GT89 wrote: »

Thing is taxis in Ireland are of a far lower standard than the UK especially London. Drivers in Ireland don't have to anywhere near as rigorous a test as the knowledge. In Ireland I have that the standard of driving and directions from some taxi drivers is poor especially late at night.

Also the standard of vehicles in the UK is much higher all taxis there are wheelchair accessible at least in London but not the case here. I think personally it should be mandatory for all taxi drivers to buy a wheelchair accessible vehicle when they go to change vehicle. Minimum age for a taxi in Ireland is 10 years old so if it was made mandatory for all new taxis to be wheelchair accessible we would have a 100% wheelchair accessible taxi fleet within 10 years.

what does any of that have to do with the topic at hand?

LuckyLloyd

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Yes, I know, I was asking why I wasn't offered the standard cab when scheduling an UBER. edit, sorry, scheduling a taxi through the UBER app (some people got confused...)

I don't know what DaCor meant by "apart from what you saw, UBER doesn't operate here" - they use regular taxis all the time.

Anyway, in the end, I didn't schedule, just booked a live booking when I needed it, and the regular taxi option appeared.

So perhaps they don't allow scheduling except for the 'black cab' option.

Apologies - I didn't fully understand your original question.

What you're asking is a good question - it would seem to me that scheduling taxis should be possible. I don't really know why they only allow "premium" options for scheduling tbh.

Spook_ie

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Apologies - I didn't fully understand your original question.

What you're asking is a good question - it would seem to me that scheduling taxis should be possible. I don't really know why they only allow "premium" options for scheduling tbh.

In all likelihood, (until recently ) many "normal taxi services" such as pre bookings have been hard to cater for (many drivers feeling it's not worth or safe working until CoVid 5 ends )

Given that Uber have a minority of taxis signed up to it ( majority seem to be with Free Now) , it's plausible that they just didn't have the cars to cover requests

grahamdunne32

nice

AndrewJRenko

Mr.S wrote: »

Of course they operate in Ireland? Registered EU HQ is in Limerick and the Irish business is run out of Dublin.

Uber isn't just Uber X.

To be clearer, the standard Uber business model of people using their own cars to give lifts and charge people doesn't work here in Ireland. No-one can charge people for lifts unless they are a PSV driver in a PSV vehicle.

BobBobBobBob

Yesterday I shared a uber from Camden to Luton Airport with an American couple. I paid for the uber and one their mobile numbers after we got out of the car. They didn't have mobile internet and we very late fot the flight to Rome.

Is there a way to split the bill after the journey?

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Summer2020

Has uber arrived in Ireland ? A friend swears they got an Uber in Dundalk, Co Louth today

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121780892#Comment_121780892

They operate by using fully licenced taxis, not by using any oul vehicle/driver as they do in other countries.